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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
March 17 2018 08:11 GMT
#441
On March 17 2018 17:10 Charoisaur wrote:
this game is broken.
Zerg didn't get the default win in a game that went past 20 minute.
Pls fix David Kim!

zerg default win with terran having ravens??
why even
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
March 17 2018 08:11 GMT
#442
On March 17 2018 17:11 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:08 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:08 Parrek wrote:
Regardless of balance, just like burrow fungal, and insta cast fungal, this mass raven style looks really stupid. I like the ability idea. Just nerf damage. Terran can fight late game without an insta cast 30 damage a shot bomb

no they can't


On Eastwatch you totally can. Ghosts alone dominate this map's lategame.

And Maru is being incredibly cinematic. Those battlecruisers yamatoing the hatch, and mass nukes? Just sexy.

Ghosts get denied by fungal

Fungal gets denied by EMP
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 08:13:23
March 17 2018 08:12 GMT
#443
GG
*burp*
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 17 2018 08:12 GMT
#444
On March 17 2018 17:11 theunabletable wrote:
As someone who hasn't played for a year or two and isn't aware of the meta, why are seeker missiles seemingly instant now?

Not a balance whine, but what do zergs do for AA now, with terran air seemingly stronger, and infestors and vipers weaker? I don't really understand how it works.

You try to win before there's maxed terran army with ghost and raven or you don't
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 08:13:47
March 17 2018 08:12 GMT
#445
On March 17 2018 17:11 theunabletable wrote:
As someone who hasn't played for a year or two and isn't aware of the meta, why are seeker missiles seemingly instant now?

Not a balance whine, but what do zergs do for AA now, with terran air seemingly stronger, and infestors and vipers weaker? I don't really understand how it works.

The new missiles do 30 splash damage instead of 100

And Vipers have 120-damage Parasitic Bomb now. Infested Terrans shred air but are rarely used (because of hatch time)
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 17 2018 08:13 GMT
#446
On March 17 2018 17:11 theunabletable wrote:
As someone who hasn't played for a year or two and isn't aware of the meta, why are seeker missiles seemingly instant now?

Not a balance whine, but what do zergs do for AA now, with terran air seemingly stronger, and infestors and vipers weaker? I don't really understand how it works.

You need to kill the terran before it happens, apparently.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
March 17 2018 08:13 GMT
#447
On March 17 2018 17:13 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:11 theunabletable wrote:
As someone who hasn't played for a year or two and isn't aware of the meta, why are seeker missiles seemingly instant now?

Not a balance whine, but what do zergs do for AA now, with terran air seemingly stronger, and infestors and vipers weaker? I don't really understand how it works.

You need to kill the terran before it happens, apparently.

unacceptable, it should be the other way again
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 08:14:50
March 17 2018 08:14 GMT
#448
On March 17 2018 17:11 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:08 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:08 Parrek wrote:
Regardless of balance, just like burrow fungal, and insta cast fungal, this mass raven style looks really stupid. I like the ability idea. Just nerf damage. Terran can fight late game without an insta cast 30 damage a shot bomb

no they can't


On Eastwatch you totally can. Ghosts alone dominate this map's lategame.

And Maru is being incredibly cinematic. Those battlecruisers yamatoing the hatch, and mass nukes? Just sexy.

Ghosts get denied by fungal


Ghosts have snipe and EMP.

Every single super late game TvZ on Eastwatch I've ever seen has been won by ghosts. This map's layout is just amazing for them.

On normal maps it's more nuanced ofc.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
March 17 2018 08:14 GMT
#449
Good morning
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
March 17 2018 08:14 GMT
#450
I think Serral lacked of vision, what i like to do lategame vs T is a lot of overseer and send waves of changelins, then you don't get surprised by his raven army suddendly launching a lot of missiles.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
March 17 2018 08:15 GMT
#451
Ravens are way too strong, enjoy your TvT-fests!
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 17 2018 08:15 GMT
#452
We've reached that point, boys. A caster said "don't let them get there."
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
March 17 2018 08:15 GMT
#453
On March 17 2018 17:08 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:08 Parrek wrote:
Regardless of balance, just like burrow fungal, and insta cast fungal, this mass raven style looks really stupid. I like the ability idea. Just nerf damage. Terran can fight late game without an insta cast 30 damage a shot bomb

no they can't

Thank you for the enlightening and interesting reasons. At a pro level, Terran hasn't been completely useless in late game ever. Even in the height of HotS TvP where Terrans SCV pulled and mass dropped, there were Terrans who could legitimately fight late game. That was before we got liberators that can absolutely allow Terran to fight protoss, and we got colossus nerfed hard along with all the other changes. All the biggest things that allow other races to destroy Terran in late game got nerfed in some way. Anti armor missile stopped 8 armor ultras. Burrow fungal is gone, and now slows instead of stuns which makes it much weaker. Liberator ghost can give real area control in late game, colossus storm is nerfed hard as a style, disruptors got nerfed, tempests got nerfed a long time ago, and more. Even without the armor missile, Terran are in a better spot in late game than they have ever been.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 17 2018 08:16 GMT
#454
On March 17 2018 17:15 Charoisaur wrote:
Ravens are way too strong, enjoy your TvT-fests!


We gonna clone Maru and have him fight himself?
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 08:17 GMT
#455
On March 17 2018 17:16 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:15 Charoisaur wrote:
Ravens are way too strong, enjoy your TvT-fests!


We gonna clone Maru and have him fight himself?


He'd end up in a 2-rax mirror and both copies of him would somehow lose.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
March 17 2018 08:17 GMT
#456
On March 17 2018 17:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:10 usopsama wrote:
Best game in esports history.

Your bias shtick is getting pretty old

It is objectively the best game in esports history though.
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
March 17 2018 08:17 GMT
#457
On March 17 2018 17:13 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:13 HolydaKing wrote:
On March 17 2018 17:11 theunabletable wrote:
As someone who hasn't played for a year or two and isn't aware of the meta, why are seeker missiles seemingly instant now?

Not a balance whine, but what do zergs do for AA now, with terran air seemingly stronger, and infestors and vipers weaker? I don't really understand how it works.

You need to kill the terran before it happens, apparently.

unacceptable, it should be the other way again

What comp did Zerg have after burrow fungal and 8 armor ultras were nerfed that was really that way?
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
March 17 2018 08:18 GMT
#458
On March 17 2018 17:16 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 17:15 Charoisaur wrote:
Ravens are way too strong, enjoy your TvT-fests!


We gonna clone Maru and have him fight himself?

Or maybe the terrans start using their brains and simply start playing like maru.
why even
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33506 Posts
March 17 2018 08:18 GMT
#459
so like, when there's a random crowd cheer, what game are they cheering for?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
March 17 2018 08:18 GMT
#460
we need a gif with this queen and this liberator killing each other
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