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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
January 16 2018 12:31 GMT
#141
Iirc protoss will be nerfed soon so TvP should be fine.
Still funny to see DnS beat KR terrans tho
WriterMaru
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
January 16 2018 13:01 GMT
#142
On January 16 2018 21:28 DieuCure wrote:
Ok can be hard to conceive but KR = South Korean.



why make that distiction?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
January 16 2018 13:34 GMT
#143
Lol.
1 Terran
2 Zergs
5 Protoss
Blizzard please patch your game before GSL group F.
adMachine
Profile Joined February 2013
Australia54 Posts
January 16 2018 14:03 GMT
#144
And the maru forfeit didnt help :-(
Life is a weight, so lift it.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
January 16 2018 15:59 GMT
#145
On January 16 2018 23:03 adMachine wrote:
And the maru forfeit didnt help :-(

Playing terran just makes you sick atm /s
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
January 16 2018 16:02 GMT
#146
On January 16 2018 23:03 adMachine wrote:
And the maru forfeit didnt help :-(

Him being sick made him lose to TIME (!) in bo5 so it's probably better we didn't see him play Creator in this state.
Hopefully in the bracket stage we see more diversity !
WriterMaru
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
January 16 2018 16:03 GMT
#147
On January 16 2018 20:46 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2018 20:39 Argonauta wrote:
I tihnk with 4.0 Terran lategame is better than zergs...


Sure, one of the best foreigners losing a late game against a retired player = late game is better for terrans.

Are top foreigners supposed to be better than retired koreans?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-16 16:38:37
January 16 2018 16:16 GMT
#148
The seeding for this qualifier just actually made no sense. People with 0 Korean WCS points in 2017 getting higher seeds than people who played in 2 GSLs

I mean it's one thing to give an advantage to the players who were at Blizzcon, but some of the stuff is just beyond completely arbitrary.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
January 16 2018 16:16 GMT
#149
On January 17 2018 01:03 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2018 20:46 DieuCure wrote:
On January 16 2018 20:39 Argonauta wrote:
I tihnk with 4.0 Terran lategame is better than zergs...


Sure, one of the best foreigners losing a late game against a retired player = late game is better for terrans.

Are top foreigners supposed to be better than retired koreans?

It depends on the players but can Leenock be considered retired since he even played (and qualify iirc) in important qualifiers such as GSL?
He probably practiced as much as Special so it doesn't say much about TvZ.
WriterMaru
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-16 17:47:23
January 16 2018 17:34 GMT
#150
On January 16 2018 20:39 Argonauta wrote:
I tihnk with 4.0 Terran lategame is better than zergs...

That would be an interesting change considering Terran hasn't been favoured in the late game against Zerg since Mvp got ghosts nerfed. Not convinced it's true though--ghosts are scary but Zerg still has tools. Snute vs ByuN at OSC was an instructive game with regards to lategame ZvT with Snute suiciding a number of expensive armies and going down tens of thousands in resources lost yet still eventually breaking ByuN with Zerg's remax capabilities.

On January 16 2018 22:34 ByuuN wrote:
Lol.
1 Terran
2 Zergs
5 Protoss
Blizzard please patch your game before GSL group F.

I'm glad to see you valiantly cherry-picking data especially when 2 zergs and a terran got out of qualifier 1 (I'm not saying the game is balanced, it isn't, but why do terran whiners like you have to cry imbalance at every occasion? It's not like 3x bo5 PvTs are statistically indicative of anything at all balance-wise, but you're acting like these numbers were written in blood by David Kim Himself.)
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
January 16 2018 17:41 GMT
#151
On January 17 2018 02:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2018 20:39 Argonauta wrote:
I tihnk with 4.0 Terran lategame is better than zergs...

That would be an interesting change considering Terran hasn't been favoured in the late game against Zerg since Mvp got ghosts nerfed. Not convinced it's true though--ghosts are scary but Zerg still has tools. Snute vs ByuN at OSC was an instructive game with regards to lategame ZvT with Snute suiciding a number of expensive armies and going down tens of thousands in resources lost yet still eventually breaking ByuN with Zerg's remax capabilities.

I think in late HotS terran had a slight advantage in lategame too
Also 4.0 doesn't change anything about lategame, does it? The only tvz change is the hydra upgrade nerf.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 16 2018 17:51 GMT
#152
On January 17 2018 02:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2018 02:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 16 2018 20:39 Argonauta wrote:
I tihnk with 4.0 Terran lategame is better than zergs...

That would be an interesting change considering Terran hasn't been favoured in the late game against Zerg since Mvp got ghosts nerfed. Not convinced it's true though--ghosts are scary but Zerg still has tools. Snute vs ByuN at OSC was an instructive game with regards to lategame ZvT with Snute suiciding a number of expensive armies and going down tens of thousands in resources lost yet still eventually breaking ByuN with Zerg's remax capabilities.

I think in late HotS terran had a slight advantage in lategame too
Also 4.0 doesn't change anything about lategame, does it? The only tvz change is the hydra upgrade nerf.

For all of 4.0? The big lategame changes are the raven and infestor changes, though I don't see how that would advantage terran.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
January 17 2018 22:20 GMT
#153
Are they going to cast the kor qual tomorrow?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
January 17 2018 22:34 GMT
#154
On January 18 2018 07:20 Argonauta wrote:
Are they going to cast the kor qual tomorrow?


They are indeed. ToD is casting but I'm not sure who with.
Zephyp
Profile Joined April 2013
238 Posts
January 18 2018 07:06 GMT
#155
Cool. Starts 10:00 CET according to the wiki.
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
January 18 2018 09:08 GMT
#156
So, which protoss will qualify today?
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-18 09:56:06
January 18 2018 09:55 GMT
#157
6 protoss in RO8... It`s like blink era again.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
January 18 2018 10:02 GMT
#158
On January 18 2018 18:55 ByuuN wrote:
6 protoss in RO8... It`s like blink era again.

Indeed, if it was a ro8 to see who got 4th and 5th, as three non-Protoss have already qualified.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
January 18 2018 10:04 GMT
#159
Kaelaris? It's been a while since I heard from him last
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
January 18 2018 10:08 GMT
#160
On January 18 2018 19:04 Heartland wrote:
Kaelaris? It's been a while since I heard from him last


He's been around for IEM stuff every now and then, but yeah, he doesn't cast too much SC2 anymore. He was always one of my favourite casters along with Apollo.
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