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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
October 27 2017 22:02 GMT
#1581
On October 28 2017 07:01 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:58 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:44 Solar424 wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:37 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:31 Zaros wrote:
Instant balance whine and complaints about sc2 after the most awesome game and people wonder why professionals don't visit TL anymore

Why should we force positivity about a game which was (in the opinion of a lot of us) just awful?


Cause you're a fansite.

TL isn't a fansite, it's a discussion forum. If you want people talking about how awesome SC2 is and how it's never been better go to r/Starcraft.


Could someone else direct me to a good starcraft fansite then

I dunno maybe you can try creating one

What would he call it?

Nebuchadliquid.

Or maybe Teamnebuchad?

Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12177 Posts
October 27 2017 22:02 GMT
#1582
On October 28 2017 07:00 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:58 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:44 Solar424 wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:37 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:31 Zaros wrote:
Instant balance whine and complaints about sc2 after the most awesome game and people wonder why professionals don't visit TL anymore

Why should we force positivity about a game which was (in the opinion of a lot of us) just awful?


Cause you're a fansite.

TL isn't a fansite, it's a discussion forum. If you want people talking about how awesome SC2 is and how it's never been better go to r/Starcraft.


Could someone else direct me to a good starcraft fansite then

I dunno maybe you can try creating one


That would suck. I wouldn't make a good admin.
No will to live, no wish to die
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-27 22:03:38
October 27 2017 22:02 GMT
#1583
On October 28 2017 07:02 Hider wrote:
Give all races strong ground to air. It's just a ton more interesting to watch ground units fight air units than air units vs air units.

This is the cause for all of the boring eras in this game, cancer sky mech, gglord infestor, and etc.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 27 2017 22:02 GMT
#1584
On October 28 2017 07:02 Hider wrote:
Give all races strong ground to air. It's just a ton more interesting to watch ground units fight air units than air units vs air units.


Agreed. I keep hoping Blizzard will do this someday.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28478 Posts
October 27 2017 22:02 GMT
#1585
On October 28 2017 07:01 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:58 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:44 Solar424 wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:37 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:31 Zaros wrote:
Instant balance whine and complaints about sc2 after the most awesome game and people wonder why professionals don't visit TL anymore

Why should we force positivity about a game which was (in the opinion of a lot of us) just awful?


Cause you're a fansite.

TL isn't a fansite, it's a discussion forum. If you want people talking about how awesome SC2 is and how it's never been better go to r/Starcraft.


Could someone else direct me to a good starcraft fansite then

I dunno maybe you can try creating one

What would he call it?

dedgaemcentral
I Protoss winner, could it be?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 27 2017 22:03 GMT
#1586
Honestly I think Stats can a-move and win at this point, he is just that far ahead.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
October 27 2017 22:03 GMT
#1587
On October 28 2017 06:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:57 DBooN wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:56 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:54 Penev wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:53 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:52 Penev wrote:
Here is an attempt for a productive discussion: How to prevent this PvZ patience fest from happening?

With balance or with gameplay?

let's try balance

Give toss a viable ground answer to brood lords and nerf the shit out of air?

Yeah, Brood Lords were the problem all along.


How do you nerf BLs without breaking TvZ or making chargelot/archon/HT unbeatable?

Buff Zerg ground
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9384 Posts
October 27 2017 22:03 GMT
#1588
Showtime said on stream that the new stalker is much worse against Blords because they shoot slower which is bad for shift-clicking broods.


They should increase its damage against air units by like +4 or something like that.

Hydras could also receive something like 7 range against air units to make it easier to snipe tier 3 shit.
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
October 27 2017 22:03 GMT
#1589
I don't understand why snute isn't already dead, Stats is probably too cautious because it's the loser bracket.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 27 2017 22:03 GMT
#1590
On October 28 2017 07:01 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:58 Musicus wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:57 Penev wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:56 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:54 Penev wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:53 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:52 Penev wrote:
Here is an attempt for a productive discussion: How to prevent this PvZ patience fest from happening?

With balance or with gameplay?

let's try balance

Give toss a viable ground answer to brood lords and nerf the shit out of air?

yes

Well in the next patch Stalkers will be better vs broodlords, revelation will be worse which nerfs toss air play somewhat and infestors counter mass carriers.

Good starting points imo, but not yet balanced.

Showtime said on stream that the new stalker is much worse against Blords because they shoot slower which is bad for shift-clicking broods.

If that's true they should adress that imo, they are supposed to be better at sniping bigger targets.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 27 2017 22:04 GMT
#1591
Poor Snuteypie
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1796 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-27 22:04:46
October 27 2017 22:04 GMT
#1592
On October 28 2017 07:01 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:58 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:44 Solar424 wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:37 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:31 Zaros wrote:
Instant balance whine and complaints about sc2 after the most awesome game and people wonder why professionals don't visit TL anymore

Why should we force positivity about a game which was (in the opinion of a lot of us) just awful?


Cause you're a fansite.

TL isn't a fansite, it's a discussion forum. If you want people talking about how awesome SC2 is and how it's never been better go to r/Starcraft.


Could someone else direct me to a good starcraft fansite then

I dunno maybe you can try creating one

What would he call it?

Club Fluid
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
October 27 2017 22:04 GMT
#1593
On October 28 2017 07:03 Tyrhanius wrote:
I don't understand why snute isn't already dead, Stats is probably too cautious because it's the loser bracket.

Oh, he was dead, alright.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
October 27 2017 22:04 GMT
#1594
On October 28 2017 06:46 Fango wrote:
The stream lost like 9K viewers when Neeb vs rogue ended

This always happens, longer games get more views.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 27 2017 22:04 GMT
#1595
On October 28 2017 07:03 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:57 DBooN wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:56 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:54 Penev wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:53 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:52 Penev wrote:
Here is an attempt for a productive discussion: How to prevent this PvZ patience fest from happening?

With balance or with gameplay?

let's try balance

Give toss a viable ground answer to brood lords and nerf the shit out of air?

Yeah, Brood Lords were the problem all along.


How do you nerf BLs without breaking TvZ or making chargelot/archon/HT unbeatable?

Buff Zerg ground


If only Blizzard was as specific as you are.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
October 27 2017 22:05 GMT
#1596
It's just so unfortunate that he has to play Stats in the losers match
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 27 2017 22:05 GMT
#1597
I feel for Snute. He's not even underperforming he's just against Stats and TY. Hope he isn't too hurt by this result
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
October 27 2017 22:05 GMT
#1598
On October 28 2017 07:03 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:01 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:58 Musicus wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:57 Penev wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:56 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:54 Penev wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:53 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:52 Penev wrote:
Here is an attempt for a productive discussion: How to prevent this PvZ patience fest from happening?

With balance or with gameplay?

let's try balance

Give toss a viable ground answer to brood lords and nerf the shit out of air?

yes

Well in the next patch Stalkers will be better vs broodlords, revelation will be worse which nerfs toss air play somewhat and infestors counter mass carriers.

Good starting points imo, but not yet balanced.

Showtime said on stream that the new stalker is much worse against Blords because they shoot slower which is bad for shift-clicking broods.

If that's true they should adress that imo, they are supposed to be better at sniping bigger targets.


I also think it's worse against liberators once you have a bigger stalker count. Because they're a lot slower at targetting libs and then blinking out.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
October 27 2017 22:05 GMT
#1599
On October 28 2017 07:04 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 07:03 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:57 DBooN wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:56 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:54 Penev wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:53 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:52 Penev wrote:
Here is an attempt for a productive discussion: How to prevent this PvZ patience fest from happening?

With balance or with gameplay?

let's try balance

Give toss a viable ground answer to brood lords and nerf the shit out of air?

Yeah, Brood Lords were the problem all along.


How do you nerf BLs without breaking TvZ or making chargelot/archon/HT unbeatable?

Buff Zerg ground


If only Blizzard was as specific as you are.

Ultra armor +5
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
October 27 2017 22:06 GMT
#1600
On October 28 2017 07:02 Hider wrote:
Give all races strong ground to air. It's just a ton more interesting to watch ground units fight air units than air units vs air units.



This would be lovely. Stacked balls of air units is just hard to follow.
hundred thousand krouner
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