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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
October 27 2017 21:52 GMT
#1541
On October 28 2017 06:48 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:42 Zzzapper wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:31 Zaros wrote:
Instant balance whine and complaints about sc2 after the most awesome game and people wonder why professionals don't visit TL anymore

Why should we force positivity about a game which was (in the opinion of a lot of us) just awful?

There's also the option of just not posting if all you're gonna do is complain. It doesn't contribute anything other than taking away from the experience of those who actually liked the game

I think it's more useful to discuss what exactly made the game boring and how to make it more exciting.
If more people spread the word about the aspects that cause such games we could work as a community to improve the game.



Can't wait for the productive discussions that come after the negativity, I've only been there 4-5 years so it should be any minute now.

Well, most of the things in question have been discussed to death already (to much focus on air-to-air play, immobile endgame armies and mass spellcaster use) so it's mostly about spreading the word now.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
October 27 2017 21:52 GMT
#1542
Another weird build from stats, already 10 workers behind.
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
October 27 2017 21:52 GMT
#1543
On October 28 2017 06:52 Penev wrote:
Here is an attempt for a productive discussion: How to prevent this PvZ patience fest from happening?

Apparently the new balance changes have done a good job at it. I have no idea.

Honestly, PvZ endgame has always been shit. There's not been a single time where I've been excited about a PvZ endgame - not to say that good games never happened, but they've always been the exception.
Writermaru pls
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
October 27 2017 21:53 GMT
#1544
On October 28 2017 06:52 Penev wrote:
Here is an attempt for a productive discussion: How to prevent this PvZ patience fest from happening?


How about outplay your opponent
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
October 27 2017 21:53 GMT
#1545
On October 28 2017 06:48 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:46 Zzzapper wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:44 Solar424 wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:37 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:31 Zaros wrote:
Instant balance whine and complaints about sc2 after the most awesome game and people wonder why professionals don't visit TL anymore

Why should we force positivity about a game which was (in the opinion of a lot of us) just awful?


Cause you're a fansite.

TL isn't a fansite, it's a discussion forum. If you want people talking about how awesome SC2 is and how it's never been better go to r/Starcraft.

The site that basically spawned and was the center of the ded gaem meme? That's definitely a positive place

Those people all left a long time ago. The second post there is about how awesome that game was.

That's fair, I haven't gone there recently except to post my speedruns
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
October 27 2017 21:53 GMT
#1546
On October 28 2017 06:52 Penev wrote:
Here is an attempt for a productive discussion: How to prevent this PvZ patience fest from happening?

With balance or with gameplay?
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
October 27 2017 21:53 GMT
#1547
gg
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
October 27 2017 21:53 GMT
#1548
Well then
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28502 Posts
October 27 2017 21:53 GMT
#1549
On October 28 2017 06:53 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:52 Penev wrote:
Here is an attempt for a productive discussion: How to prevent this PvZ patience fest from happening?


How about outplay your opponent

hmm disappoint, I was hoping for a "don't let them get there"
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 27 2017 21:54 GMT
#1550
Earlier I asked myself if the 3 spores per base from Rogue were overkill. Well I got my answer now.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28502 Posts
October 27 2017 21:54 GMT
#1551
On October 28 2017 06:53 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:52 Penev wrote:
Here is an attempt for a productive discussion: How to prevent this PvZ patience fest from happening?

With balance or with gameplay?

let's try balance
I Protoss winner, could it be?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 27 2017 21:54 GMT
#1552
Ahhh now this is the PvZ I'm used to
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
tantalus
Profile Joined June 2012
69 Posts
October 27 2017 21:55 GMT
#1553
What wins, 10 oracles or 30 hydras? Let's find out!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 27 2017 21:56 GMT
#1554
On October 28 2017 06:54 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:53 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:52 Penev wrote:
Here is an attempt for a productive discussion: How to prevent this PvZ patience fest from happening?

With balance or with gameplay?

let's try balance


This particular game didn't look particularly imbalanced unlike most games of skytoss tbh. Rogue definitely had his chances.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 27 2017 21:56 GMT
#1555
lmao, killed the hive with oracles
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
October 27 2017 21:56 GMT
#1556
On October 28 2017 06:53 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:53 Zaros wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:52 Penev wrote:
Here is an attempt for a productive discussion: How to prevent this PvZ patience fest from happening?


How about outplay your opponent

hmm disappoint, I was hoping for a "don't let them get there"


I think its inherent in the design of Protoss, Rogue got out positioned throughout the game and as neeb said in the interview Rogue went with Broodlords which is probably the wrong composition and he had very few vipers all game. I enjoyed the game a lot and I don't see any reason to design it out of the game.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
October 27 2017 21:56 GMT
#1557
On October 28 2017 06:54 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 06:53 Morbidius wrote:
On October 28 2017 06:52 Penev wrote:
Here is an attempt for a productive discussion: How to prevent this PvZ patience fest from happening?

With balance or with gameplay?

let's try balance

Give toss a viable ground answer to brood lords and nerf the shit out of air?
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
October 27 2017 21:56 GMT
#1558
Oh no.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
October 27 2017 21:56 GMT
#1559
wow i feel bad for Snute
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 27 2017 21:57 GMT
#1560
What happened? I was in the bathroom.
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