Okay,I just watched the first two to three minutes of gsl season 2 maru vs sOO as a reference. Dude LOOK at how sOO handles this. He makes his third before there are four to five reapers out. So there is no chance for it to be dps down by 7-8 reapers. Much quicker than the other zergs I see. Then he makes like 14-20 lings , and keeps them IN THE MINERAL LINE, he doesn't suicide them into the reapers over and over like these clueless ass zergs. Like this squad of LINGS, NEVER ATTACKS THE REAPERS, YOU DEFEND YOUR DRONE LINE...

Then as SOON as he has like 25 or so lings, he COUNTER ATTACKS ( what you guys claim you can't do, and the thing is he had NO lings to defend as he sends em across the map, the BALLS, LOL lol) and he still has enough larva to pop lings just in time to keep attacking reapers honest. More than one fuckin control group, no a moves... I gotta watch the rest.. To be continued... Ima figure this out one way or another lol...

SpaWnvERtiGO

110 Posts

July 16 2017 09:33 GMT

#203

You guys are looking for a BUILD to beat reapers, when what you need is positioning and tactics.....basically BRAINS over BRAWN...

SpaWnvERtiGO

110 Posts

July 16 2017 09:41 GMT

#204

Okay, seriously watch that Maru vs sOO, cause they echo everything I'm saying, how sOO response was TACTICAL, where as Darks was logical, like well I make these units to beat these units. That build order shit... Learn to micro zeros, lol and this is from a Zerg player here....

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SetGuitarsToKill

Canada28396 Posts

July 16 2017 09:42 GMT

#205

Stop spamming. It's against TL rules

SpaWnvERtiGO

110 Posts

July 16 2017 09:59 GMT

#206

My apologies, I wasn't trying to spam... I'm actually trying to spark a legit discussion about this, cause I feel like the community is very wrong here... You can't even USE reapers against anything but drones and lings, to nerf em, they might as well remove em...

SpaWnvERtiGO

110 Posts

July 16 2017 10:04 GMT

#207

Also, am I wrong? Legit question, I'd rather someone prove me wrong than complain I made too many posts about it...

SpaWnvERtiGO

110 Posts

July 16 2017 10:52 GMT

#208

Second game, same series. sOO massacres the first group of reapers, with the same tactics. Only lings and micro. He even saves his third vs the 7-8-9 reaper number that can actually kill a hatch.

Kept TWO control groups of lings, one at home to keep the reapers honest, another to stop reinforcements and threaten a counter attack. This has a paralysis like effect on Marus reapers, as they held position in the middle of the map at the tower, neither attacking OR defending for fear of a ling surround. The tactical interplay here, this was my favorite gsl group to watch so far this year.

I gotta finish watching...more analysis to come...

SpaWnvERtiGO

110 Posts

July 16 2017 11:01 GMT

#209

Maru takes second game, only cause sOO lost it. sOO at virtually ANY time coulda killed him with a bane ling attack. He almost won with his counter attacks, which would have worked better with a few banes I think...more Starcraft lol....

Edit; actually, sOO basically kinda threw that game... After he kills all the reapers, he niether drones OR all ins, OR techs. He just keeps making lings......

SpaWnvERtiGO

110 Posts

July 16 2017 11:30 GMT

#210

Finished game three, lol. sOO defends third hatch JUST before the 7-9 reaper count can kill it, saves his third, drones up. Proceeds to stomp Marus 7 rax reaper follow up with ...............Only lings. Positioning, micro and surrounds. Come on now,...you guys are bugging.....

Edit; I feel compelled to add, if you say it's not Byun, it's the reapers, well this was the Terran with the consensus second best micro using the reapers.

It reminds me of when the euro zeros say, eh, mech is bad. Yeah, until they face Gumiho mech, then they get crushed. Maybe it's the euro Terrans, just MAYBE...

SpaWnvERtiGO

110 Posts

July 16 2017 11:48 GMT

#211

Final thought on this...

I suggest everyone watch the Byun Losira, and Byun Armani. Then watch Maru vs sOO and compare how the zergs handle it. I think it's gonna be clear to anyone Armani and Losira were literally clueless, even about HOW many reapers it takes to kill a hatch, and how to properly surround and the tactical nuances....
I'm all ears fellas, prove me wrong please....

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The_Red_Viper

19533 Posts

July 16 2017 13:09 GMT

#212

I wasn't trying to spam but let me spam again immediately

JyB

France466 Posts

July 16 2017 13:16 GMT

#213

I love tasteless, but why does he need to predict the future every 5 minutes? Let go of the predictions.

Deleted User 261926

960 Posts

July 16 2017 13:30 GMT

#214

On July 16 2017 18:41 SpaWnvERtiGO wrote:
Okay, seriously watch that Maru vs sOO, cause they echo everything I'm saying, how sOO response was TACTICAL, where as Darks was logical, like well I make these units to beat these units. That build order shit... Learn to micro zeros, lol and this is from a Zerg player here....

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Amazing slogan spouting

pvsnp

7676 Posts

July 16 2017 17:13 GMT

#215

How hard is it to write one long post instead of ten short ones?

Has the added benefit of coalescing your point and hopefully improving its coherence.

Stream-of-consciousness posting tends to end badly.

Topin

Peru10091 Posts

July 16 2017 22:24 GMT

#216

sad for Forte, he played well vs Stats and Losira but in TvT ByuN was just better. gg Forte

neutralrobot

Australia1025 Posts

July 17 2017 00:58 GMT

#217

On July 17 2017 07:24 Topin wrote:
sad for Forte, he played well vs Stats and Losira but in TvT ByuN was just better. gg Forte

Yeah, I felt the same way by the end. Forte looked like a really solid player who belongs in Code S. Just maybe not the Ro16 yet. Would love to see him become just that tiny bit better and really shine with the best.