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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-15 15:25:17
December 15 2016 15:24 GMT
#321
On December 16 2016 00:12 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 23:05 opisska wrote:
On December 15 2016 22:59 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On December 15 2016 22:31 opisska wrote:
Wuut, are terrans with cloaked assassins that can erase one full mined out base worth of ultras in three seconds now salty that zergs can cast a spell from something invisible? That's really something ...



yes but one burrowed fungal can cancel it all

thats really something...


Are you aware that those very ghosts also posses the EMP that prevents the very fungal from ever happening?

I mean, this whine that "X does Y and that is insane" is in itself insane, because there are just many things in the game that do cool things. People nowadays when faced with something new, they do not want to work out ways how to deal with them, but they just want to ask mummy Blizzard to fix it for them ...

I guess time will tell if infestors are a problem or not. Right now it feels like a coinflip-mechanic (does the terran scan or not?) and that's why I dislike it.

Requiring detection isn't a coinflip...

Dark vs ByuN was a great series, hopefully INnoVation can put up an even better fight.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
ignussssssssss
Profile Joined October 2016
7 Posts
December 15 2016 15:51 GMT
#322
On December 16 2016 00:24 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2016 00:12 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 15 2016 23:05 opisska wrote:
On December 15 2016 22:59 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On December 15 2016 22:31 opisska wrote:
Wuut, are terrans with cloaked assassins that can erase one full mined out base worth of ultras in three seconds now salty that zergs can cast a spell from something invisible? That's really something ...



yes but one burrowed fungal can cancel it all

thats really something...


Are you aware that those very ghosts also posses the EMP that prevents the very fungal from ever happening?

I mean, this whine that "X does Y and that is insane" is in itself insane, because there are just many things in the game that do cool things. People nowadays when faced with something new, they do not want to work out ways how to deal with them, but they just want to ask mummy Blizzard to fix it for them ...

I guess time will tell if infestors are a problem or not. Right now it feels like a coinflip-mechanic (does the terran scan or not?) and that's why I dislike it.

Requiring detection isn't a coinflip...

Dark vs ByuN was a great series, hopefully INnoVation can put up an even better fight.


Yah it's not a coinflip but I find kinda unfair to make Terran Bio even harder than before. On Top of all Byun got to do now he have to babysit a Raven (200 gas slow unit) or his army will get REKT. Meanwhile... Z have easier having an invisible caster.... How is that fair? And I don't think mass scan is viable against Infestor... you can't scan all the map / You lose a ton of economy.
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
December 15 2016 16:15 GMT
#323
On December 15 2016 15:19 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 15:16 EatingBomber wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:08 stuchiu wrote:
The theoretical counter play is that infestors eliminate mutas (as an option) from the tech tree so you can ramp up harassment and aggression with liberators and drops.

Just curious; which Terran player did you think had the best anti-Mutalisk tactics of all time? As in, those who were best at countering large flocks (>20) of mutalisks and actually managing to completely nullify their effectiveness

Flash

For SC2 I think Taeja had a very good anti-mutalisk tactic.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-15 17:00:31
December 15 2016 16:59 GMT
#324
On December 16 2016 00:51 ignussssssssss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2016 00:24 Ansibled wrote:
On December 16 2016 00:12 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 15 2016 23:05 opisska wrote:
On December 15 2016 22:59 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On December 15 2016 22:31 opisska wrote:
Wuut, are terrans with cloaked assassins that can erase one full mined out base worth of ultras in three seconds now salty that zergs can cast a spell from something invisible? That's really something ...



yes but one burrowed fungal can cancel it all

thats really something...


Are you aware that those very ghosts also posses the EMP that prevents the very fungal from ever happening?

I mean, this whine that "X does Y and that is insane" is in itself insane, because there are just many things in the game that do cool things. People nowadays when faced with something new, they do not want to work out ways how to deal with them, but they just want to ask mummy Blizzard to fix it for them ...

I guess time will tell if infestors are a problem or not. Right now it feels like a coinflip-mechanic (does the terran scan or not?) and that's why I dislike it.

Requiring detection isn't a coinflip...

Dark vs ByuN was a great series, hopefully INnoVation can put up an even better fight.


Yah it's not a coinflip but I find kinda unfair to make Terran Bio even harder than before. On Top of all Byun got to do now he have to babysit a Raven (200 gas slow unit) or his army will get REKT. Meanwhile... Z have easier having an invisible caster.... How is that fair? And I don't think mass scan is viable against Infestor... you can't scan all the map / You lose a ton of economy.


I think they need to buff Ravens speed or make it not require a tech lab. Idk I think the reactor/tech lab requirements is what's screwing up a lot of things for T
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 15 2016 17:53 GMT
#325
dark vs byun top tier ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
689 Posts
December 15 2016 17:53 GMT
#326
Watching Dark vs ByuN, there are many situations where the infestors could have been unborrowed, and the fungals would still have hit ByuN army without problems (and they were protected by the roach/ravager army of Dark).
My life for Aiur !
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
December 15 2016 18:10 GMT
#327
Any series worth watching?
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
December 15 2016 18:27 GMT
#328
pretty much everything except Innovation vs Trust tbh.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
TheWinks
Profile Joined July 2011
United States572 Posts
December 15 2016 20:22 GMT
#329
On December 16 2016 00:24 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2016 00:12 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 15 2016 23:05 opisska wrote:
On December 15 2016 22:59 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On December 15 2016 22:31 opisska wrote:
Wuut, are terrans with cloaked assassins that can erase one full mined out base worth of ultras in three seconds now salty that zergs can cast a spell from something invisible? That's really something ...



yes but one burrowed fungal can cancel it all

thats really something...


Are you aware that those very ghosts also posses the EMP that prevents the very fungal from ever happening?

I mean, this whine that "X does Y and that is insane" is in itself insane, because there are just many things in the game that do cool things. People nowadays when faced with something new, they do not want to work out ways how to deal with them, but they just want to ask mummy Blizzard to fix it for them ...

I guess time will tell if infestors are a problem or not. Right now it feels like a coinflip-mechanic (does the terran scan or not?) and that's why I dislike it.

Requiring detection isn't a coinflip...

When the primary mode of detection is an infrequent, short timed circle, it becomes one. Are the hidden units in the circle, or in the case of at least one scan in game 5, just barely out of the radius?
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 15 2016 20:28 GMT
#330
On December 16 2016 05:22 TheWinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2016 00:24 Ansibled wrote:
On December 16 2016 00:12 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 15 2016 23:05 opisska wrote:
On December 15 2016 22:59 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On December 15 2016 22:31 opisska wrote:
Wuut, are terrans with cloaked assassins that can erase one full mined out base worth of ultras in three seconds now salty that zergs can cast a spell from something invisible? That's really something ...



yes but one burrowed fungal can cancel it all

thats really something...


Are you aware that those very ghosts also posses the EMP that prevents the very fungal from ever happening?

I mean, this whine that "X does Y and that is insane" is in itself insane, because there are just many things in the game that do cool things. People nowadays when faced with something new, they do not want to work out ways how to deal with them, but they just want to ask mummy Blizzard to fix it for them ...

I guess time will tell if infestors are a problem or not. Right now it feels like a coinflip-mechanic (does the terran scan or not?) and that's why I dislike it.

Requiring detection isn't a coinflip...

When the primary mode of detection is an infrequent, short timed circle, it becomes one. Are the hidden units in the circle, or in the case of at least one scan in game 5, just barely out of the radius?


Do you know that the "hidden" units are actually visible even when not detected?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
December 15 2016 20:32 GMT
#331
Gumiho the scan bandit is ready for this.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
December 15 2016 20:34 GMT
#332
On December 16 2016 05:32 Phredxor wrote:
Gumiho the scan bandit is ready for this.

aLive is the scan bandit, re-learn your Wolfisms plz.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
December 15 2016 20:39 GMT
#333
On December 16 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2016 05:32 Phredxor wrote:
Gumiho the scan bandit is ready for this.

aLive is the scan bandit, re-learn your Wolfisms plz.


Fuck i thought it might have been but then i decided nobody would bother to nickname him. I failed.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
December 15 2016 20:40 GMT
#334
On December 16 2016 05:39 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:
On December 16 2016 05:32 Phredxor wrote:
Gumiho the scan bandit is ready for this.

aLive is the scan bandit, re-learn your Wolfisms plz.


Fuck i thought it might have been but then i decided nobody would bother to nickname him. I failed.

Scan bandit might still be my favorite Wolfism. It's so silly and nonsensical.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
December 15 2016 20:44 GMT
#335
On December 16 2016 05:40 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2016 05:39 Phredxor wrote:
On December 16 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:
On December 16 2016 05:32 Phredxor wrote:
Gumiho the scan bandit is ready for this.

aLive is the scan bandit, re-learn your Wolfisms plz.


Fuck i thought it might have been but then i decided nobody would bother to nickname him. I failed.

Scan bandit might still be my favorite Wolfism. It's so silly and nonsensical.


Pocket Terran for lyf.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
December 15 2016 20:49 GMT
#336
Did they really jammed the entire RO16 into a single day, jammed the entire RO8 into another day, only to split the RO4 into two days? That must be a typo, right?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
December 15 2016 20:50 GMT
#337
On December 16 2016 05:49 usopsama wrote:
Did they really jammed the entire RO16 into a single day, jammed the entire RO8 into another day, only to split the RO4 into two days? That must be a typo, right?

No this is real life.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 15 2016 20:52 GMT
#338
On December 16 2016 05:50 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2016 05:49 usopsama wrote:
Did they really jammed the entire RO16 into a single day, jammed the entire RO8 into another day, only to split the RO4 into two days? That must be a typo, right?

No this is real life.


It isn't called Intel Extreme Masters for nothing
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-15 20:59:50
December 15 2016 20:59 GMT
#339
On December 16 2016 05:49 usopsama wrote:
Did they really jammed the entire RO16 into a single day, jammed the entire RO8 into another day, only to split the RO4 into two days? That must be a typo, right?

It's because the last days are shared between LoL, SC2, and Overwatch.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 15 2016 21:00 GMT
#340
smh Byun such a disappointment in this tourney
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