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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 15 2016 07:12 GMT
#301
I see that Terrans are still huge cry babies... Guess that isn't changing anytime soon. Was a good zvt and Dark outplayed Byun in that last game.
When I think of something else, something will go here
rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
December 15 2016 07:13 GMT
#302
On December 15 2016 16:02 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 15:52 rednusa wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:37 Kaizor wrote:

It was a great series and then burrowed fungals just spoilt it.

same with reapers at blizzcon..


ByuN with reapers ruined Blizzcon (and presumably every other time he used that build in 2016), you mean?

just the finals. I think we got robbed of some great macro games because of the reaper builds.


I agree. The finals were a tad anti-climatic. I think ByuN quickly realised Dark was not good at dealing with his reaper openings and just decided to go straight for the kill. I don't blame him though and I was happy that he won Blizzcon.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15979 Posts
December 15 2016 07:22 GMT
#303
On December 15 2016 16:12 blade55555 wrote:
I see that Terrans are still huge cry babies... Guess that isn't changing anytime soon. Was a good zvt and Dark outplayed Byun in that last game.

It's not about balance, I just think burrow-fungal is a dumb mechanics (for reasons already explained)

Zergs are just as big crybabies as terrans seeing all the complaints about reapers after the blizzcon finals.
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ignussssssssss
Profile Joined October 2016
7 Posts
December 15 2016 07:29 GMT
#304
On December 15 2016 16:22 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 16:12 blade55555 wrote:
I see that Terrans are still huge cry babies... Guess that isn't changing anytime soon. Was a good zvt and Dark outplayed Byun in that last game.

It's not about balance, I just think burrow-fungal is a dumb mechanics (for reasons already explained)

Zergs are just as big crybabies as terrans seeing all the complaints about reapers after the blizzcon finals.


Well I think Burrowfestor is terrible design... just like Widow Mine.. Oracle... Ravagers... etc.

Why would you want a super strong invisible caster who can stun lot of supply if you don't scan have a Raven ?

And do that in 1 Second? If game needs something is to be slowed down...
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 15 2016 08:20 GMT
#305
VOD?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12901 Posts
December 15 2016 08:56 GMT
#306
On December 15 2016 16:12 blade55555 wrote:
I see that Terrans are still huge cry babies... Guess that isn't changing anytime soon. Was a good zvt and Dark outplayed Byun in that last game.

Well the matchup still seems broken (Nerchio beat ByuN and destroyed uThermal, MarineLord only beat 3-2 a random French zerg, ByuN can't beat Dark anymore, etc) why wouldn't they cry?
Easy to say people are crybabies when your race is in a good spot for forever long.
WriterMaru
jimjimmie
Profile Joined December 2016
13 Posts
December 15 2016 09:07 GMT
#307
i'm gonna make some raven!->huge zerglings and roaches
i'm gomma make some medevac!->burrowed fungal
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 15 2016 09:10 GMT
#308
On December 15 2016 17:20 opisska wrote:
VOD?


https://www.twitch.tv/esl_sc2/v/107508320
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 15 2016 09:12 GMT
#309
On December 15 2016 18:10 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 17:20 opisska wrote:
VOD?


https://www.twitch.tv/esl_sc2/v/107508320


thx. woke up and the whole thing was already over
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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mCon.Hephaistas
Profile Joined May 2014
Netherlands891 Posts
December 15 2016 09:46 GMT
#310
On December 15 2016 17:56 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 16:12 blade55555 wrote:
I see that Terrans are still huge cry babies... Guess that isn't changing anytime soon. Was a good zvt and Dark outplayed Byun in that last game.

Well the matchup still seems broken (Nerchio beat ByuN and destroyed uThermal, MarineLord only beat 3-2 a random French zerg, ByuN can't beat Dark anymore, etc) why wouldn't they cry?
Easy to say people are crybabies when your race is in a good spot for forever long.


Hahahaha Terrans just feel entitled to win every game.

TvZ is fine now stop whining, Zerg finally got a strong midgame and can actually win without having to turtle for hive tech every game now.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 15 2016 10:33 GMT
#311
I love the smell of Terran tears in the morning.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
689 Posts
December 15 2016 11:33 GMT
#312
Thanks for the VOD link

To be honest the game seems pretty well balanced right now (at least if you read TL you can find balance whine in almost equal measure from P, T and Z ehehehe :D)
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
December 15 2016 11:49 GMT
#313
Any particularly good maps from the soO game please?
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 15 2016 13:31 GMT
#314
Wuut, are terrans with cloaked assassins that can erase one full mined out base worth of ultras in three seconds now salty that zergs can cast a spell from something invisible? That's really something ...

The games were great, Dark was clearly better in so many aspects, but no, there always will be whining when something interesting has an effect on the game. Some people would probably prefer if all races just got differently skinned marines and fought each other with pure damage, because that's the only thing that isn't imba.

"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13980 Posts
December 15 2016 13:57 GMT
#315
On December 15 2016 20:49 Edpayasugo wrote:
Any particularly good maps from the soO game please?

Newkirk (g3?) was a really good game if you enjoy positioning wars
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
December 15 2016 13:59 GMT
#316
On December 15 2016 22:31 opisska wrote:
Wuut, are terrans with cloaked assassins that can erase one full mined out base worth of ultras in three seconds now salty that zergs can cast a spell from something invisible? That's really something ...



yes but one burrowed fungal can cancel it all

thats really something...
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 15 2016 14:05 GMT
#317
On December 15 2016 22:59 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 22:31 opisska wrote:
Wuut, are terrans with cloaked assassins that can erase one full mined out base worth of ultras in three seconds now salty that zergs can cast a spell from something invisible? That's really something ...



yes but one burrowed fungal can cancel it all

thats really something...


Are you aware that those very ghosts also posses the EMP that prevents the very fungal from ever happening?

I mean, this whine that "X does Y and that is insane" is in itself insane, because there are just many things in the game that do cool things. People nowadays when faced with something new, they do not want to work out ways how to deal with them, but they just want to ask mummy Blizzard to fix it for them ...
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-15 14:15:10
December 15 2016 14:14 GMT
#318
On December 15 2016 23:05 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 22:59 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On December 15 2016 22:31 opisska wrote:
Wuut, are terrans with cloaked assassins that can erase one full mined out base worth of ultras in three seconds now salty that zergs can cast a spell from something invisible? That's really something ...



yes but one burrowed fungal can cancel it all

thats really something...


Are you aware that those very ghosts also posses the EMP that prevents the very fungal from ever happening?

I mean, this whine that "X does Y and that is insane" is in itself insane, because there are just many things in the game that do cool things. People nowadays when faced with something new, they do not want to work out ways how to deal with them, but they just want to ask mummy Blizzard to fix it for them ...

dont want to turn this thread into a battlenet balance whine fest, I just wanted to point out the other side of the medal...

your sig is pretty fucked up btw
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 15 2016 15:01 GMT
#319
Oh Byun lost, i bet he at least target fired some banelings
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15979 Posts
December 15 2016 15:12 GMT
#320
On December 15 2016 23:05 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 22:59 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On December 15 2016 22:31 opisska wrote:
Wuut, are terrans with cloaked assassins that can erase one full mined out base worth of ultras in three seconds now salty that zergs can cast a spell from something invisible? That's really something ...



yes but one burrowed fungal can cancel it all

thats really something...


Are you aware that those very ghosts also posses the EMP that prevents the very fungal from ever happening?

I mean, this whine that "X does Y and that is insane" is in itself insane, because there are just many things in the game that do cool things. People nowadays when faced with something new, they do not want to work out ways how to deal with them, but they just want to ask mummy Blizzard to fix it for them ...

I guess time will tell if infestors are a problem or not. Right now it feels like a coinflip-mechanic (does the terran scan or not?) and that's why I dislike it.
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