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On November 05 2016 08:53 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:51 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2016 08:49 Penev wrote:
football
it's neeb and football
ffs EU master race understands both, NA plebians get confused by the word football. They seem to associate it with a sport based around touching the ball with their hands and arms. I like both tho
that is possible
I like rugby more tho (than am fb), much more dynamic
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On November 05 2016 08:53 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:52 Little-Chimp wrote:On November 05 2016 08:48 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:46 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:42 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:41 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:40 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:35 Ej_ wrote:On November 05 2016 08:34 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:33 Ej_ wrote:
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don't mistake corelation for causation So what would you say is causing all of this, if SC2 really is the best it's ever been? the game's viewership has been steadily declining since the release, Overwatch was the nail to the coffin of the game in Korea, matchfixing scandal last year didn't really help That still doesn't explain why ladder is deader than ever and that the community is extremely upset with how Blizzard has handled the game How is the ladder dead? Do you even play the game yourself or do you just complain?  http://www.rankedftw.com/stats/population/1v1/#v=2&r=-2&sx=a&sy=gAnd I would play the game if Blizzard acutally made it rewarding to play. As of now I don't feel any satisfaction playing SC2, only frustration. So 75 thousand people actively playing 1v1 means SC is dead? Not dead, just not the best it's ever been. Compared to other games it's pretty dead though. Imagine thinking the garbage that was WOL ZvP (corrupters and remaxes to kill collosus balls into super OP infestor builds) and HOTS ZvP (7 hour swarm host games) were better than the current ZvP meta. WOL ZvT was probably better than the current one but man did HOTS ever blow. LOTV kills HOTS. HotS PvZ wasn't bad once swarmhosts weren't a thing anymore
it was just as bad when Protoss could take 6:30 3rd and make stalkers on every map they didn't have to double guess themselves for proxy hatcheries
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On November 05 2016 08:53 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:53 Life4ever wrote:On November 05 2016 08:52 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 05 2016 08:52 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2016 08:51 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 05 2016 08:49 Life4ever wrote:
Foreigners have taken 0 maps of koreans at blizzcon thus far.
Will probably stay so unless Dark chokes against Elazer and drops a map.
Exciting tournament :D So Solar lost 0 maps ? Blizzcon, not the Global Finals. It's the same thing... No It is http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_WCS_Global_Playoffs_and_Finals
Why are you picking a dumb semantic argument with someone who believes that a single bo5 is a meaningful sample size and is probably Charoisaur?
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United States97276 Posts
On November 05 2016 08:54 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:53 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2016 08:51 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2016 08:49 Penev wrote:
football
it's neeb and football
ffs EU master race understands both, NA plebians get confused by the word football. They seem to associate it with a sport based around touching the ball with their hands and arms. I like both tho Eagle visa revoked
only MLS and Swansea though. and of course Arsenal the most American club
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On November 05 2016 08:54 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:53 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2016 08:51 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2016 08:49 Penev wrote:
football
it's neeb and football
ffs EU master race understands both, NA plebians get confused by the word football. They seem to associate it with a sport based around touching the ball with their hands and arms. I like both tho Eagle visa revoked
They're gonna build a wall around his house and Shellshock's gonna pay for it.
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On November 05 2016 08:54 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:53 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 05 2016 08:53 Life4ever wrote:On November 05 2016 08:52 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 05 2016 08:52 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2016 08:51 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 05 2016 08:49 Life4ever wrote:
Foreigners have taken 0 maps of koreans at blizzcon thus far.
Will probably stay so unless Dark chokes against Elazer and drops a map.
Exciting tournament :D So Solar lost 0 maps ? Blizzcon, not the Global Finals. It's the same thing... No It is http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_WCS_Global_Playoffs_and_Finals I mean if you're technically referring to the Blizzcon venue then it's different cause the other games weren't played at Blizzcon
Everyone knows games lost outside of the Blizzcon stage are not real games
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On November 05 2016 08:55 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:54 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2016 08:53 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 05 2016 08:53 Life4ever wrote:On November 05 2016 08:52 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 05 2016 08:52 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2016 08:51 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 05 2016 08:49 Life4ever wrote:
Foreigners have taken 0 maps of koreans at blizzcon thus far.
Will probably stay so unless Dark chokes against Elazer and drops a map.
Exciting tournament :D So Solar lost 0 maps ? Blizzcon, not the Global Finals. It's the same thing... No It is http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_WCS_Global_Playoffs_and_Finals I mean if you're technically referring to the Blizzcon venue then it's different cause the other games weren't played at Blizzcon Everyone knows games lost outside of the Blizzcon stage are not real games
exactly. They are just social constructs
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France12912 Posts
On November 05 2016 08:48 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:46 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:42 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:41 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:40 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:35 Ej_ wrote:On November 05 2016 08:34 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:33 Ej_ wrote:On November 05 2016 08:33 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:31 Ej_ wrote:
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it's all a conspiracy, it's impossible that your opinion isn't the universal truth!
Blizzcon LR threads make me lose faith in the future of this planet Is it really a coincidence that viewership is at an all-time low, the community has never been more toxic about balance and design, and that sponsors are leaving the scene in droves? Does this sound like the best SC2 has ever been? don't mistake corelation for causation So what would you say is causing all of this, if SC2 really is the best it's ever been? the game's viewership has been steadily declining since the release, Overwatch was the nail to the coffin of the game in Korea, matchfixing scandal last year didn't really help That still doesn't explain why ladder is deader than ever and that the community is extremely upset with how Blizzard has handled the game How is the ladder dead? Do you even play the game yourself or do you just complain? http://www.rankedftw.com/stats/population/1v1/#v=2&r=-2&sx=a&sy=gAnd I would play the game if Blizzard acutally made it rewarding to play. As of now I don't feel any satisfaction playing SC2, only frustration. So 75 thousand people actively playing 1v1 means SC is dead? Not dead, just not the best it's ever been. Compared to other games it's pretty dead though.
That's not how ladder works tho.
LoL has far more active players but I always have to wait 10-15 fucking minutes before entering a ladder match (in game I mean, not the fucking long as well lobby which can be terminated if someone decides to leave -;-). Whereas on sc2 I get a match in a minute maximum... So I'm having a far better ladder experience on sc2 than LoL. (ofc LoL is a team game, but OW is as well but the waiting time is far less, of course it's because you don't have to wait for specific roles in OW... but guess what? as a player I don't give a crap about the reasons it takes so long to find a match in LoL, it doesn't excuse the fact that it makes for a kinda shit ladder experience)
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Austria24422 Posts
On November 05 2016 08:54 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:53 Olli wrote:On November 05 2016 08:52 Little-Chimp wrote:On November 05 2016 08:48 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:46 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:42 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:41 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:40 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:35 Ej_ wrote:On November 05 2016 08:34 Solar424 wrote:
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So what would you say is causing all of this, if SC2 really is the best it's ever been? the game's viewership has been steadily declining since the release, Overwatch was the nail to the coffin of the game in Korea, matchfixing scandal last year didn't really help That still doesn't explain why ladder is deader than ever and that the community is extremely upset with how Blizzard has handled the game How is the ladder dead? Do you even play the game yourself or do you just complain? http://www.rankedftw.com/stats/population/1v1/#v=2&r=-2&sx=a&sy=gAnd I would play the game if Blizzard acutally made it rewarding to play. As of now I don't feel any satisfaction playing SC2, only frustration. So 75 thousand people actively playing 1v1 means SC is dead? Not dead, just not the best it's ever been. Compared to other games it's pretty dead though. Imagine thinking the garbage that was WOL ZvP (corrupters and remaxes to kill collosus balls into super OP infestor builds) and HOTS ZvP (7 hour swarm host games) were better than the current ZvP meta. WOL ZvT was probably better than the current one but man did HOTS ever blow. LOTV kills HOTS. HotS PvZ wasn't bad once swarmhosts weren't a thing anymore it was just as bad when Protoss could take 6:30 3rd and make stalkers on every map they didn't have to double guess themselves for proxy hatcheries
Yeah you probably didn't play the game right then
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On November 05 2016 08:54 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:54 GumBa wrote:On November 05 2016 08:53 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2016 08:51 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2016 08:49 Penev wrote:
football
it's neeb and football
ffs EU master race understands both, NA plebians get confused by the word football. They seem to associate it with a sport based around touching the ball with their hands and arms. I like both tho Eagle visa revoked only MLS and Swansea though. and of course Arsenal the most American club
Dont muricans hate losers? So why would arsenal be murican?
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On November 05 2016 08:55 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:54 Ej_ wrote:On November 05 2016 08:53 Olli wrote:On November 05 2016 08:52 Little-Chimp wrote:On November 05 2016 08:48 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:46 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:42 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:41 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:40 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:35 Ej_ wrote:
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the game's viewership has been steadily declining since the release, Overwatch was the nail to the coffin of the game in Korea, matchfixing scandal last year didn't really help That still doesn't explain why ladder is deader than ever and that the community is extremely upset with how Blizzard has handled the game How is the ladder dead? Do you even play the game yourself or do you just complain? http://www.rankedftw.com/stats/population/1v1/#v=2&r=-2&sx=a&sy=gAnd I would play the game if Blizzard acutally made it rewarding to play. As of now I don't feel any satisfaction playing SC2, only frustration. So 75 thousand people actively playing 1v1 means SC is dead? Not dead, just not the best it's ever been. Compared to other games it's pretty dead though. Imagine thinking the garbage that was WOL ZvP (corrupters and remaxes to kill collosus balls into super OP infestor builds) and HOTS ZvP (7 hour swarm host games) were better than the current ZvP meta. WOL ZvT was probably better than the current one but man did HOTS ever blow. LOTV kills HOTS. HotS PvZ wasn't bad once swarmhosts weren't a thing anymore it was just as bad when Protoss could take 6:30 3rd and make stalkers on every map they didn't have to double guess themselves for proxy hatcheries Yeah you probably didn't play the game right then
+2 blink was a garbage meta though.
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On November 05 2016 08:55 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:54 Ej_ wrote:On November 05 2016 08:53 Olli wrote:On November 05 2016 08:52 Little-Chimp wrote:On November 05 2016 08:48 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:46 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:42 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:41 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:40 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:35 Ej_ wrote:
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the game's viewership has been steadily declining since the release, Overwatch was the nail to the coffin of the game in Korea, matchfixing scandal last year didn't really help That still doesn't explain why ladder is deader than ever and that the community is extremely upset with how Blizzard has handled the game How is the ladder dead? Do you even play the game yourself or do you just complain? http://www.rankedftw.com/stats/population/1v1/#v=2&r=-2&sx=a&sy=gAnd I would play the game if Blizzard acutally made it rewarding to play. As of now I don't feel any satisfaction playing SC2, only frustration. So 75 thousand people actively playing 1v1 means SC is dead? Not dead, just not the best it's ever been. Compared to other games it's pretty dead though. Imagine thinking the garbage that was WOL ZvP (corrupters and remaxes to kill collosus balls into super OP infestor builds) and HOTS ZvP (7 hour swarm host games) were better than the current ZvP meta. WOL ZvT was probably better than the current one but man did HOTS ever blow. LOTV kills HOTS. HotS PvZ wasn't bad once swarmhosts weren't a thing anymore it was just as bad when Protoss could take 6:30 3rd and make stalkers on every map they didn't have to double guess themselves for proxy hatcheries Yeah you probably didn't play the game right then
oh i did, i did roach allins on 40 drones and hoped for the best
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On November 05 2016 08:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:53 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 05 2016 08:53 Life4ever wrote:On November 05 2016 08:52 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 05 2016 08:52 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2016 08:51 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 05 2016 08:49 Life4ever wrote:
Foreigners have taken 0 maps of koreans at blizzcon thus far.
Will probably stay so unless Dark chokes against Elazer and drops a map.
Exciting tournament :D So Solar lost 0 maps ? Blizzcon, not the Global Finals. It's the same thing... No It is http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_WCS_Global_Playoffs_and_Finals Why are you picking a dumb semantic argument with someone who believes that a single bo5 is a meaningful sample size and is probably Charoisaur?
'cause i'm tired.
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On November 05 2016 08:54 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:53 Olli wrote:On November 05 2016 08:52 Little-Chimp wrote:On November 05 2016 08:48 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:46 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:42 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:41 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:40 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:35 Ej_ wrote:On November 05 2016 08:34 Solar424 wrote:
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So what would you say is causing all of this, if SC2 really is the best it's ever been? the game's viewership has been steadily declining since the release, Overwatch was the nail to the coffin of the game in Korea, matchfixing scandal last year didn't really help That still doesn't explain why ladder is deader than ever and that the community is extremely upset with how Blizzard has handled the game How is the ladder dead? Do you even play the game yourself or do you just complain? http://www.rankedftw.com/stats/population/1v1/#v=2&r=-2&sx=a&sy=gAnd I would play the game if Blizzard acutally made it rewarding to play. As of now I don't feel any satisfaction playing SC2, only frustration. So 75 thousand people actively playing 1v1 means SC is dead? Not dead, just not the best it's ever been. Compared to other games it's pretty dead though. Imagine thinking the garbage that was WOL ZvP (corrupters and remaxes to kill collosus balls into super OP infestor builds) and HOTS ZvP (7 hour swarm host games) were better than the current ZvP meta. WOL ZvT was probably better than the current one but man did HOTS ever blow. LOTV kills HOTS. HotS PvZ wasn't bad once swarmhosts weren't a thing anymore it was just as bad when Protoss could take 6:30 3rd and make stalkers on every map they didn't have to double guess themselves for proxy hatcheries
But the blink sentry vs roach hydra micro battle was amazing.
I remember PartinG doing such crazy things with his units.
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On November 05 2016 08:56 Life4ever wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:54 Ej_ wrote:On November 05 2016 08:53 Olli wrote:On November 05 2016 08:52 Little-Chimp wrote:On November 05 2016 08:48 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:46 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:42 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:41 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:40 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:35 Ej_ wrote:
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the game's viewership has been steadily declining since the release, Overwatch was the nail to the coffin of the game in Korea, matchfixing scandal last year didn't really help That still doesn't explain why ladder is deader than ever and that the community is extremely upset with how Blizzard has handled the game How is the ladder dead? Do you even play the game yourself or do you just complain? http://www.rankedftw.com/stats/population/1v1/#v=2&r=-2&sx=a&sy=gAnd I would play the game if Blizzard acutally made it rewarding to play. As of now I don't feel any satisfaction playing SC2, only frustration. So 75 thousand people actively playing 1v1 means SC is dead? Not dead, just not the best it's ever been. Compared to other games it's pretty dead though. Imagine thinking the garbage that was WOL ZvP (corrupters and remaxes to kill collosus balls into super OP infestor builds) and HOTS ZvP (7 hour swarm host games) were better than the current ZvP meta. WOL ZvT was probably better than the current one but man did HOTS ever blow. LOTV kills HOTS. HotS PvZ wasn't bad once swarmhosts weren't a thing anymore it was just as bad when Protoss could take 6:30 3rd and make stalkers on every map they didn't have to double guess themselves for proxy hatcheries But the blink sentry vs roach hydra micro battle was amazing. I remember PartinG doing such crazy things with his units.
MICRO BATTLE
you mean zerg watching forcefields and blink slowly kill them before hive
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United States97276 Posts
On November 05 2016 08:55 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:54 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2016 08:54 GumBa wrote:On November 05 2016 08:53 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2016 08:51 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2016 08:49 Penev wrote:
football
it's neeb and football
ffs EU master race understands both, NA plebians get confused by the word football. They seem to associate it with a sport based around touching the ball with their hands and arms. I like both tho Eagle visa revoked only MLS and Swansea though. and of course Arsenal the most American club Dont muricans hate losers? So why would arsenal be murican?
the invincibles were actually shown on tv here and ManUre sucks now
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Apollo just smirked when incontrol was talking about how hard the korean scene was.
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On November 05 2016 08:56 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:56 Life4ever wrote:On November 05 2016 08:54 Ej_ wrote:On November 05 2016 08:53 Olli wrote:On November 05 2016 08:52 Little-Chimp wrote:On November 05 2016 08:48 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:46 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:42 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:41 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:40 Solar424 wrote:
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That still doesn't explain why ladder is deader than ever and that the community is extremely upset with how Blizzard has handled the game How is the ladder dead? Do you even play the game yourself or do you just complain? http://www.rankedftw.com/stats/population/1v1/#v=2&r=-2&sx=a&sy=gAnd I would play the game if Blizzard acutally made it rewarding to play. As of now I don't feel any satisfaction playing SC2, only frustration. So 75 thousand people actively playing 1v1 means SC is dead? Not dead, just not the best it's ever been. Compared to other games it's pretty dead though. Imagine thinking the garbage that was WOL ZvP (corrupters and remaxes to kill collosus balls into super OP infestor builds) and HOTS ZvP (7 hour swarm host games) were better than the current ZvP meta. WOL ZvT was probably better than the current one but man did HOTS ever blow. LOTV kills HOTS. HotS PvZ wasn't bad once swarmhosts weren't a thing anymore it was just as bad when Protoss could take 6:30 3rd and make stalkers on every map they didn't have to double guess themselves for proxy hatcheries But the blink sentry vs roach hydra micro battle was amazing. I remember PartinG doing such crazy things with his units. MICRO BATTLE you mean zerg watching forcefields and blink slowly kill them before hive
Pretty sure I've seen Charoisaur say the exact same thing too
Nobody gonna check if it's an alt? No? Okay.
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On November 05 2016 08:57 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:55 GumBa wrote:On November 05 2016 08:54 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2016 08:54 GumBa wrote:On November 05 2016 08:53 Shellshock wrote:On November 05 2016 08:51 Elentos wrote:On November 05 2016 08:49 Penev wrote:
football
it's neeb and football
ffs EU master race understands both, NA plebians get confused by the word football. They seem to associate it with a sport based around touching the ball with their hands and arms. I like both tho Eagle visa revoked only MLS and Swansea though. and of course Arsenal the most American club Dont muricans hate losers? So why would arsenal be murican? the invincibles were actually shown on tv here and ManUre sucks now
What about C H E L S E A B O Y S. BIG CLUB BIG MONEY.
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Austria24422 Posts
On November 05 2016 08:56 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 08:55 Olli wrote:On November 05 2016 08:54 Ej_ wrote:On November 05 2016 08:53 Olli wrote:On November 05 2016 08:52 Little-Chimp wrote:On November 05 2016 08:48 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:46 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:42 Solar424 wrote:On November 05 2016 08:41 True_Spike wrote:On November 05 2016 08:40 Solar424 wrote:
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That still doesn't explain why ladder is deader than ever and that the community is extremely upset with how Blizzard has handled the game How is the ladder dead? Do you even play the game yourself or do you just complain? http://www.rankedftw.com/stats/population/1v1/#v=2&r=-2&sx=a&sy=gAnd I would play the game if Blizzard acutally made it rewarding to play. As of now I don't feel any satisfaction playing SC2, only frustration. So 75 thousand people actively playing 1v1 means SC is dead? Not dead, just not the best it's ever been. Compared to other games it's pretty dead though. Imagine thinking the garbage that was WOL ZvP (corrupters and remaxes to kill collosus balls into super OP infestor builds) and HOTS ZvP (7 hour swarm host games) were better than the current ZvP meta. WOL ZvT was probably better than the current one but man did HOTS ever blow. LOTV kills HOTS. HotS PvZ wasn't bad once swarmhosts weren't a thing anymore it was just as bad when Protoss could take 6:30 3rd and make stalkers on every map they didn't have to double guess themselves for proxy hatcheries Yeah you probably didn't play the game right then +2 blink was a garbage meta though.
Disagree, it was much better than right now.
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