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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
November 04 2016 23:58 GMT
#3421
On November 05 2016 08:57 GumBa wrote:
Apollo just smirked when incontrol was talking about how hard the korean scene was.

Maybe he has the mind of a 12 year old.

"Hue. Huehue. He said 'hard'."
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Life4ever
Profile Joined November 2016
33 Posts
November 04 2016 23:58 GMT
#3422
On November 05 2016 08:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 08:53 FFW_Rude wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:53 Life4ever wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:52 FFW_Rude wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:52 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:51 FFW_Rude wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:49 Life4ever wrote:
Foreigners have taken 0 maps of koreans at blizzcon thus far.
Will probably stay so unless Dark chokes against Elazer and drops a map.
Exciting tournament :D


So Solar lost 0 maps ?

Blizzcon, not the Global Finals.


It's the same thing...

No


It is
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_WCS_Global_Playoffs_and_Finals


Why are you picking a dumb semantic argument with someone who believes that a single bo5 is a meaningful sample size and is probably Charoisaur?

Well, not more foreigners made it so far so they couldn't play more bo5s.
And what is chariosaur?
Life is the GOAT, all other opinions are irrelevant.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 04 2016 23:58 GMT
#3423
multiplayer panel is just going through the existing balance map changes right now. nothing too exciting.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
November 04 2016 23:58 GMT
#3424
On November 05 2016 08:58 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 08:56 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:55 Olli wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:54 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:53 Olli wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:52 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:48 Solar424 wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:46 True_Spike wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:42 Solar424 wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:41 True_Spike wrote:
[quote]

How is the ladder dead? Do you even play the game yourself or do you just complain?

http://www.rankedftw.com/stats/population/1v1/#v=2&r=-2&sx=a&sy=g
And I would play the game if Blizzard acutally made it rewarding to play. As of now I don't feel any satisfaction playing SC2, only frustration.


So 75 thousand people actively playing 1v1 means SC is dead?

Not dead, just not the best it's ever been. Compared to other games it's pretty dead though.


Imagine thinking the garbage that was WOL ZvP (corrupters and remaxes to kill collosus balls into super OP infestor builds) and HOTS ZvP (7 hour swarm host games) were better than the current ZvP meta.

WOL ZvT was probably better than the current one but man did HOTS ever blow. LOTV kills HOTS.


HotS PvZ wasn't bad once swarmhosts weren't a thing anymore

it was just as bad when Protoss could take 6:30 3rd and make stalkers on every map they didn't have to double guess themselves for proxy hatcheries


Yeah you probably didn't play the game right then

+2 blink was a garbage meta though.


Disagree, it was much better than right now.

It was terrible to watch.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 04 2016 23:58 GMT
#3425
On November 05 2016 08:58 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 08:57 GumBa wrote:
Apollo just smirked when incontrol was talking about how hard the korean scene was.

Maybe he has the mind of a 12 year old.

"Hue. Huehue. He said 'hard'."

If that 12 year old is in the hitler youth yeah.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12874 Posts
November 04 2016 23:58 GMT
#3426
On November 05 2016 08:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 08:53 FFW_Rude wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:53 Life4ever wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:52 FFW_Rude wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:52 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:51 FFW_Rude wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:49 Life4ever wrote:
Foreigners have taken 0 maps of koreans at blizzcon thus far.
Will probably stay so unless Dark chokes against Elazer and drops a map.
Exciting tournament :D


So Solar lost 0 maps ?

Blizzcon, not the Global Finals.


It's the same thing...

No


It is
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_WCS_Global_Playoffs_and_Finals


Why are you picking a dumb semantic argument with someone who believes that a single bo5 is a meaningful sample size and is probably Charoisaur?

Am I the only one there that only has 1 account? :D
WriterMaru
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 23:59:41
November 04 2016 23:58 GMT
#3427
On November 05 2016 08:57 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 08:56 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:56 Life4ever wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:54 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:53 Olli wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:52 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:48 Solar424 wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:46 True_Spike wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:42 Solar424 wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:41 True_Spike wrote:
[quote]

How is the ladder dead? Do you even play the game yourself or do you just complain?

http://www.rankedftw.com/stats/population/1v1/#v=2&r=-2&sx=a&sy=g
And I would play the game if Blizzard acutally made it rewarding to play. As of now I don't feel any satisfaction playing SC2, only frustration.


So 75 thousand people actively playing 1v1 means SC is dead?

Not dead, just not the best it's ever been. Compared to other games it's pretty dead though.


Imagine thinking the garbage that was WOL ZvP (corrupters and remaxes to kill collosus balls into super OP infestor builds) and HOTS ZvP (7 hour swarm host games) were better than the current ZvP meta.

WOL ZvT was probably better than the current one but man did HOTS ever blow. LOTV kills HOTS.


HotS PvZ wasn't bad once swarmhosts weren't a thing anymore

it was just as bad when Protoss could take 6:30 3rd and make stalkers on every map they didn't have to double guess themselves for proxy hatcheries

But the blink sentry vs roach hydra micro battle was amazing.
I remember PartinG doing such crazy things with his units.

MICRO BATTLE

you mean zerg watching forcefields and blink slowly kill them before hive

Pretty sure I've seen Charoisaur say the exact same thing too

Nobody gonna check if it's an alt? No? Okay.


The odds that it's Charoisaur are better than Dark's odds against Elazer.

On November 05 2016 08:58 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 08:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:53 FFW_Rude wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:53 Life4ever wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:52 FFW_Rude wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:52 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:51 FFW_Rude wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:49 Life4ever wrote:
Foreigners have taken 0 maps of koreans at blizzcon thus far.
Will probably stay so unless Dark chokes against Elazer and drops a map.
Exciting tournament :D


So Solar lost 0 maps ?

Blizzcon, not the Global Finals.


It's the same thing...

No


It is
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_WCS_Global_Playoffs_and_Finals


Why are you picking a dumb semantic argument with someone who believes that a single bo5 is a meaningful sample size and is probably Charoisaur?

Am I the only one there that only has 1 account? :D


Maybe you know how to take your bans like a man.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 04 2016 23:58 GMT
#3428
On November 05 2016 08:57 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 08:57 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:55 GumBa wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:54 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:54 GumBa wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:53 Shellshock wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:51 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:49 Penev wrote:
football

it's neeb and football

ffs

EU master race understands both, NA plebians get confused by the word football. They seem to associate it with a sport based around touching the ball with their hands and arms.

I like both tho

Eagle visa revoked

only MLS and Swansea though. and of course Arsenal the most American club

Dont muricans hate losers? So why would arsenal be murican?

the invincibles were actually shown on tv here and ManUre sucks now

What about C H E L S E A B O Y S. BIG CLUB BIG MONEY.

owned by evil Russians. Arsenal has an American majority owner. Liverpool actually very popular over here too. LEBRON LIKES THEM!
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
November 04 2016 23:58 GMT
#3429
On November 05 2016 08:58 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 08:58 Olli wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:56 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:55 Olli wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:54 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:53 Olli wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:52 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:48 Solar424 wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:46 True_Spike wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:42 Solar424 wrote:
[quote]
http://www.rankedftw.com/stats/population/1v1/#v=2&r=-2&sx=a&sy=g
And I would play the game if Blizzard acutally made it rewarding to play. As of now I don't feel any satisfaction playing SC2, only frustration.


So 75 thousand people actively playing 1v1 means SC is dead?

Not dead, just not the best it's ever been. Compared to other games it's pretty dead though.


Imagine thinking the garbage that was WOL ZvP (corrupters and remaxes to kill collosus balls into super OP infestor builds) and HOTS ZvP (7 hour swarm host games) were better than the current ZvP meta.

WOL ZvT was probably better than the current one but man did HOTS ever blow. LOTV kills HOTS.


HotS PvZ wasn't bad once swarmhosts weren't a thing anymore

it was just as bad when Protoss could take 6:30 3rd and make stalkers on every map they didn't have to double guess themselves for proxy hatcheries


Yeah you probably didn't play the game right then

+2 blink was a garbage meta though.


Disagree, it was much better than right now.

It was terrible to watch.


I disagree again. Personal preference I guess.
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ShadowReaver
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada563 Posts
November 04 2016 23:59 GMT
#3430
I don't see this being close. Stats 3-1.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 04 2016 23:59 GMT
#3431
The worst era of pvp was whenever huk was semi relevant.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 04 2016 23:59 GMT
#3432
On November 05 2016 08:58 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 08:58 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:58 Olli wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:56 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:55 Olli wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:54 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:53 Olli wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:52 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:48 Solar424 wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:46 True_Spike wrote:
[quote]

So 75 thousand people actively playing 1v1 means SC is dead?

Not dead, just not the best it's ever been. Compared to other games it's pretty dead though.


Imagine thinking the garbage that was WOL ZvP (corrupters and remaxes to kill collosus balls into super OP infestor builds) and HOTS ZvP (7 hour swarm host games) were better than the current ZvP meta.

WOL ZvT was probably better than the current one but man did HOTS ever blow. LOTV kills HOTS.


HotS PvZ wasn't bad once swarmhosts weren't a thing anymore

it was just as bad when Protoss could take 6:30 3rd and make stalkers on every map they didn't have to double guess themselves for proxy hatcheries


Yeah you probably didn't play the game right then

+2 blink was a garbage meta though.


Disagree, it was much better than right now.

It was terrible to watch.


I disagree again. Personal preference I guess.

Your preferences are very weird
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 04 2016 23:59 GMT
#3433
On November 05 2016 08:52 Little-Chimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 08:48 Solar424 wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:46 True_Spike wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:42 Solar424 wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:41 True_Spike wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:40 Solar424 wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:35 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:34 Solar424 wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:33 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:33 Solar424 wrote:
[quote]
Is it really a coincidence that viewership is at an all-time low, the community has never been more toxic about balance and design, and that sponsors are leaving the scene in droves? Does this sound like the best SC2 has ever been?

don't mistake corelation for causation

So what would you say is causing all of this, if SC2 really is the best it's ever been?

the game's viewership has been steadily declining since the release, Overwatch was the nail to the coffin of the game in Korea, matchfixing scandal last year didn't really help

That still doesn't explain why ladder is deader than ever and that the community is extremely upset with how Blizzard has handled the game


How is the ladder dead? Do you even play the game yourself or do you just complain?

http://www.rankedftw.com/stats/population/1v1/#v=2&r=-2&sx=a&sy=g
And I would play the game if Blizzard acutally made it rewarding to play. As of now I don't feel any satisfaction playing SC2, only frustration.


So 75 thousand people actively playing 1v1 means SC is dead?

Not dead, just not the best it's ever been. Compared to other games it's pretty dead though.


Imagine thinking the garbage that was WOL ZvP (corrupters and remaxes to kill collosus balls into super OP infestor builds) and HOTS ZvP (7 hour swarm host games) were better than the current ZvP meta.

WOL ZvT was probably better than the current one but man did HOTS ever blow. LOTV kills HOTS.


I think PvP is the only MU that's better than ever in LotV.

and I still don't know what everyone's talking about by ripping on HotS ZvP. Up until the SH nerf, ZvP was probably the most diverse MU we ever had. There were so many good HotS ZvP series it's ridiculous. Zest vs soO alone was one of the best GSL finals I've ever seen.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 05 2016 00:00 GMT
#3434
will koreans go stalker disruptor against each other or just when they played neeblet?
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 05 2016 00:00 GMT
#3435
On November 05 2016 08:59 GumBa wrote:
The worst era of pvp was whenever huk was semi relevant.

nah it was 2014 because there was the most pvp then
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 05 2016 00:00 GMT
#3436
rofl, same thing when Neeb lost

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 05 2016 00:00 GMT
#3437
On November 05 2016 08:59 GumBa wrote:
The worst era of pvp was whenever huk was semi relevant.

what about when InCa vs MC was the pinnacle of the matchup?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
November 05 2016 00:00 GMT
#3438
On November 05 2016 08:58 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 08:58 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:58 Olli wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:56 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:55 Olli wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:54 Ej_ wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:53 Olli wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:52 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:48 Solar424 wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:46 True_Spike wrote:
[quote]

So 75 thousand people actively playing 1v1 means SC is dead?

Not dead, just not the best it's ever been. Compared to other games it's pretty dead though.


Imagine thinking the garbage that was WOL ZvP (corrupters and remaxes to kill collosus balls into super OP infestor builds) and HOTS ZvP (7 hour swarm host games) were better than the current ZvP meta.

WOL ZvT was probably better than the current one but man did HOTS ever blow. LOTV kills HOTS.


HotS PvZ wasn't bad once swarmhosts weren't a thing anymore

it was just as bad when Protoss could take 6:30 3rd and make stalkers on every map they didn't have to double guess themselves for proxy hatcheries


Yeah you probably didn't play the game right then

+2 blink was a garbage meta though.


Disagree, it was much better than right now.

It was terrible to watch.


I disagree again. Personal preference I guess.

It's okay a couple of times.

But not in every game from every Protoss. Also the games were very easy to see through at some point.

Also if SH didn't get nerfed at least I would never have had to watch Blaze vs Sleep.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
November 05 2016 00:00 GMT
#3439
On November 05 2016 08:58 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 08:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:53 FFW_Rude wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:53 Life4ever wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:52 FFW_Rude wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:52 Elentos wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:51 FFW_Rude wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:49 Life4ever wrote:
Foreigners have taken 0 maps of koreans at blizzcon thus far.
Will probably stay so unless Dark chokes against Elazer and drops a map.
Exciting tournament :D


So Solar lost 0 maps ?

Blizzcon, not the Global Finals.


It's the same thing...

No


It is
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_WCS_Global_Playoffs_and_Finals


Why are you picking a dumb semantic argument with someone who believes that a single bo5 is a meaningful sample size and is probably Charoisaur?

Am I the only one there that only has 1 account? :D

nice try templar
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 05 2016 00:00 GMT
#3440
On November 05 2016 09:00 Musicus wrote:
rofl, same thing when Neeb lost

https://twitter.com/FionnOnFire/status/794690049166090240

how close was USA vs SK?
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