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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
October 29 2016 19:42 GMT
#1061
On October 30 2016 04:39 Hider wrote:
Also, let's take a moment to digest this Stuchio tweet that Thorin is basing his whole world view on:

Show nested quote +
I feel sorry for Snute. He beat Rain and Classic in their primes after their GSl/SSL wins and didnt get half this hype.


That result came right after he had the following results vs koreans:

0-3 loss to Innovation (completely outclassed - you can just watch the VODS).
0-2 Jaedong
0-2 Rain
1-4 Trap

YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCES!!!

Those were clearly just outliers. There was no reason to belive Snute was actually a top 5-10 player at that time.

But generally speaking, foreigners are playing much closer up against koreans today than they were 1½+ years ago.

also he got crushed 3:0 by TY right after his wins over classic and Rain.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Corwinus
Profile Joined October 2015
Croatia96 Posts
October 29 2016 19:42 GMT
#1062
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 29 2016 19:42 GMT
#1063
On October 30 2016 04:40 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:38 Musicus wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:37 Clonester wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:35 Musicus wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:34 Elentos wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:33 Musicus wrote:
I have no idea what to do now, I needed at least 2 hours more today :/.

Just watch the Hearthstone tournament, you'll fall asleep before you know it.

The Hearthstone group stage is BO7 by the way.

Oh yeah, I might actually watch since I randomly picked a player that will win me packs if he does well. I hope he is still in.


Rather watch ESL PL Finals Clown9 vs Optic then Sleepstone... You could also watch Overwatch if you want to learn about bad observing.

I don't enjoy team games. Would defintely watch some quake if that was still a thing, the lack of 1v1 games makes me sad. There is only sc2 and passionstone.


Liquid Civ 6 will save you.
You can watch Back2Warcraft, the qualifier for WCA America is running.

Watching now, thanks!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
October 29 2016 19:42 GMT
#1064
On October 30 2016 04:41 Musicus wrote:

I mean, we'd probably just have taken longer to get to the same outcome that way.

Besides, sometimes just have to listen to what your gut tells you to do.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 29 2016 19:42 GMT
#1065
On October 30 2016 04:40 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:37 Elentos wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:35 Durnuu wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:34 Elentos wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:33 Musicus wrote:
I have no idea what to do now, I needed at least 2 hours more today :/.

Just watch the Hearthstone tournament, you'll fall asleep before you know it.

The Hearthstone group stage is BO7 by the way.

Are Hearthstone games that short ? Oo

Some are short. But a lot of them take forever. Pros usually think about their play until the rope almost runs out.

You actually watch hearthstone? WHAT?

Every now and then I watch a game and afterwards I ask myself what I'm doing because that game doesn't make a lot of sense.

I simply cannot enjoy it after playing a bit of magic years ago
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
October 29 2016 19:43 GMT
#1066
On October 30 2016 04:40 Lil_nooblet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
To make up for that series let's all sit and laugh at how dumb this comparison is from thorin



Not sure about the comparison since I don't know anything about guitars but the skill level in sc2 definitely isn't as high as it was a couple years ago.


Aaaaaaand you just took that right out of your ass.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 29 2016 19:43 GMT
#1067
On October 30 2016 04:41 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/ElazerSC2/status/792451087349321728

This is why players need coaches and a support team =[
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 29 2016 19:43 GMT
#1068
On October 30 2016 04:42 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:41 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/ElazerSC2/status/792451087349321728

clearly lack of experience, it happens all the time

yep, I'm sure he will be more confident next time!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
October 29 2016 19:43 GMT
#1069
time for some civilization 6, where i do not have to face the al mighty korea
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 29 2016 19:44 GMT
#1070
On October 30 2016 04:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
To make up for that series let's all sit and laugh at how dumb this comparison is from thorin

https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/792446232631320581

I feel like he is only talking about mechanics?

No


I actually think that strengthens my suspicion
Aka having a better understanding of the game, builds, etc isn't included in his definition of "skill"

But saying pure mechanics = skill is kind of dumb. Knowing how to use that skill is in itself a skill
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
ionONE
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany605 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-29 19:45:29
October 29 2016 19:44 GMT
#1071
Musicus maybe try sim racing

JANGBI never forget
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
October 29 2016 19:44 GMT
#1072
On October 30 2016 04:42 Corwinus wrote:
https://twitter.com/smixity/status/792451356715986945

No way, Thorin must know better, he's so intelligent after all
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
October 29 2016 19:45 GMT
#1073
On October 30 2016 04:43 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:40 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
To make up for that series let's all sit and laugh at how dumb this comparison is from thorin

https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/792446232631320581


Not sure about the comparison since I don't know anything about guitars but the skill level in sc2 definitely isn't as high as it was a couple years ago.


Aaaaaaand you just took that right out of your ass.

I don't think you need to be a scientist to regognize that. we had like 30 retirements the last 3 years in the KR scene with almost no new blood coming in
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
October 29 2016 19:45 GMT
#1074
On October 30 2016 04:40 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:37 Elentos wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:35 Durnuu wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:34 Elentos wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:33 Musicus wrote:
I have no idea what to do now, I needed at least 2 hours more today :/.

Just watch the Hearthstone tournament, you'll fall asleep before you know it.

The Hearthstone group stage is BO7 by the way.

Are Hearthstone games that short ? Oo

Some are short. But a lot of them take forever. Pros usually think about their play until the rope almost runs out.

You actually watch hearthstone? WHAT?

Every now and then I watch a game and afterwards I ask myself what I'm doing because that game doesn't make a lot of sense.

I actually like watching personal hearthstone streams, as you can think with them about which move to make and then see if they do it different than what you would do. But I just can't really enjoy the professional scene when there's so many retarded random cards in the game that effect games in a big way. Like how can you cheer for someone getting a better minion from a 'spawn random minion' card.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 29 2016 19:45 GMT
#1075
On October 30 2016 04:43 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:41 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/ElazerSC2/status/792451087349321728

This is why players need coaches and a support team =[

Yeah, absolutely!

But now I really hope Nerchio wins the ZvZ, he is just way more experienced and confident on the big stage agains top Koreans. Something like this would never happen to him, instead he always stays calm and can even come back against players like TY.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
October 29 2016 19:45 GMT
#1076
On October 30 2016 04:42 Corwinus wrote:
https://twitter.com/smixity/status/792451356715986945

I would want to call this high praise but I struggle to think of really good Korean Protoss players who aren't in this tournament.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 29 2016 19:46 GMT
#1077
Wht does anyone care about anything Thorin says in 2016?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-29 19:47:30
October 29 2016 19:46 GMT
#1078
On October 30 2016 04:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:39 Hider wrote:
Also, let's take a moment to digest this Stuchio tweet that Thorin is basing his whole world view on:

I feel sorry for Snute. He beat Rain and Classic in their primes after their GSl/SSL wins and didnt get half this hype.


That result came right after he had the following results vs koreans:

0-3 loss to Innovation (completely outclassed - you can just watch the VODS).
0-2 Jaedong
0-2 Rain
1-4 Trap

YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCES!!!

Those were clearly just outliers. There was no reason to belive Snute was actually a top 5-10 player at that time.

But generally speaking, foreigners are playing much closer up against koreans today than they were 1½+ years ago.

also he got crushed 3:0 by TY right after his wins over classic and Rain.


Yes hence my point: Stuchio's tweet is deceiving because Snute's results back then were clearly just upsets and were never bound to be repeated on a somewhat regularly fashion.

On the other hand, if you look at most of the results (or watch the games) from 2016 when top 20 koreans have met top 10 foreigners, you will not see a significant difference in the skill level.

Koreans are still a tad ahead, but it has definitely narrowed alot.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
October 29 2016 19:47 GMT
#1079
On October 30 2016 04:45 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:42 Corwinus wrote:
https://twitter.com/smixity/status/792451356715986945

I would want to call this high praise but I struggle to think of really good Korean Protoss players who aren't in this tournament.

Stork?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
October 29 2016 19:47 GMT
#1080
adding to the discussion about viewer counts... the viewer count definitely drops when we have all the "expert talk" and the viewer count rises during games.... it has gone up and down several times now.

people are here to watch SC2 games and not here to listen to "expert talk".

what i'd prefer is the non-stop starcraft action of a 128 player MLG bracket

i hope MLG is in charge of next years SC2 competition.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
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