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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-29 19:48:04
October 29 2016 19:47 GMT
#1081
So you asked me if Hearthstone games are short enough to warrant BO7 group stages. Their schedule says their 3rd series should be about to finish now. But they're just now going into the last game of their 2nd series.

Yeah I think 7 might have been too much.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
October 29 2016 19:48 GMT
#1082
On October 30 2016 04:46 Ej_ wrote:
Wht does anyone care about anything Thorin says in 2016?

Why does anyone care about anything Thorin says?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17931 Posts
October 29 2016 19:48 GMT
#1083
On October 30 2016 04:44 ionONE wrote:
Musicus maybe try sim racing

i know a guy with a $2500 set up in his basement.
its very cool.
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Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
October 29 2016 19:48 GMT
#1084
On October 30 2016 04:43 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:40 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
To make up for that series let's all sit and laugh at how dumb this comparison is from thorin



Not sure about the comparison since I don't know anything about guitars but the skill level in sc2 definitely isn't as high as it was a couple years ago.


Aaaaaaand you just took that right out of your ass.


The korean scene this year is much less competitive and cut throat than it was a couple years ago which I think has caused the overall skill level to be lower than it used to be.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
October 29 2016 19:49 GMT
#1085
On October 30 2016 04:44 ionONE wrote:
Musicus maybe try sim racing


haha, not sure, but I would actually watch if it was on right now
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 29 2016 19:49 GMT
#1086
On October 30 2016 04:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
To make up for that series let's all sit and laugh at how dumb this comparison is from thorin

https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/792446232631320581

I feel like he is only talking about mechanics?

No


I actually think that strengthens my suspicion
Aka having a better understanding of the game, builds, etc isn't included in his definition of "skill"

But saying pure mechanics = skill is kind of dumb. Knowing how to use that skill is in itself a skill

Yeah i agree with you, just how i interpreted these tweets
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
October 29 2016 19:49 GMT
#1087
On October 30 2016 04:47 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:45 Elentos wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:42 Corwinus wrote:

I would want to call this high praise but I struggle to think of really good Korean Protoss players who aren't in this tournament.

Stork?

Isn't he like part time Olimoleague caster? Not even a real progamer.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-29 19:51:51
October 29 2016 19:50 GMT
#1088
On October 30 2016 04:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
To make up for that series let's all sit and laugh at how dumb this comparison is from thorin

https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/792446232631320581

I feel like he is only talking about mechanics?

No

https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/792446739944964096

I actually think that strengthens my suspicion
Aka having a better understanding of the game, builds, etc isn't included in his definition of "skill"


Yes Pele was definitely a better player than Messi.

Also these guys would win every table tennis world cup today. The chinese would stand no chance.



Srs though, what the f... is that technique. :O
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
October 29 2016 19:51 GMT
#1089
I don't suppose anyone actually calculated out the length of that final match?
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 29 2016 19:52 GMT
#1090
I really hope elazer trainer to be the next pope before this ... that was really underwhelming: came home, watched two terribly failed allins. I think he just conceded before the games even started... c'mon TY isn't such unbeatable god that reading TL would make you think. Really sad from that. I wouldn't blame elazer for losing, but he should have at least give it a proper try.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
October 29 2016 19:52 GMT
#1091
the skill in these games has gone up. back in the day progamers were barely able to control armies with ghosts and vikings and or collosi and ghost. now the games are faster, more expansions, more units to control and more spells. there is no doubt in my mind this game is harder to play than hots and wol and the skill as gone up to adjust to it
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
October 29 2016 19:54 GMT
#1092
On October 30 2016 04:50 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
To make up for that series let's all sit and laugh at how dumb this comparison is from thorin

https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/792446232631320581

I feel like he is only talking about mechanics?

No

https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/792446739944964096

I actually think that strengthens my suspicion
Aka having a better understanding of the game, builds, etc isn't included in his definition of "skill"


Yes Pele was definitely a better player than Messi.

Also these guys would win every table tennis world cup today. The chinese would stand no chance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3okRVEEx3yc

Srs though, what the f... is that technique. :O

I like his tactical 3 sizes too long pants
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
October 29 2016 19:54 GMT
#1093
On October 30 2016 04:52 Wrathsc2 wrote:
the skill in these games has gone up. back in the day progamers were barely able to control armies with ghosts and vikings and or collosi and ghost. now the games are faster, more expansions, more units to control and more spells. there is no doubt in my mind this game is harder to play than hots and wol and the skill as gone up to adjust to it


People just say what they want to believe is true. The statement is completely without merit.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-29 19:57:25
October 29 2016 19:55 GMT
#1094
On October 30 2016 04:50 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 04:42 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 30 2016 04:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
To make up for that series let's all sit and laugh at how dumb this comparison is from thorin

https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/792446232631320581

I feel like he is only talking about mechanics?

No

https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/792446739944964096

I actually think that strengthens my suspicion
Aka having a better understanding of the game, builds, etc isn't included in his definition of "skill"


Yes Pele was definitely a better player than Messi.

Also these guys would win every table tennis world cup today. The chinese would stand no chance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3okRVEEx3yc

Srs though, what the f... is that technique. :O


It is funny that you call out stuff and do bad analogies yourself. When a scene becomes more competitive because more money, etc is involved then players become better as a result. Better coachig, etc.
Now try to take that and use it with (korean) starcraft.

Also i am just saying how i interprete his tweets and it makes some sense. Even though i think that decision making, etc is a skill as well obviously, but that doesn't seem to be included in his version of "skill"
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-29 19:56:10
October 29 2016 19:55 GMT
#1095
On October 30 2016 04:51 Rehio wrote:
I don't suppose anyone actually calculated out the length of that final match?

8 minutes 22 seconds total game time.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-29 20:02:44
October 29 2016 20:01 GMT
#1096
It is funny that you call out stuff and do bad analogies yourself. When a scene becomes more competitive because more money, etc is involved then players become better as a result. Better coachig, etc.
Now try to take that and use it with (korean) starcraft.


Yes when people practice more they become better. But the claim is not just that the improvement has slowed down. The claim is that the players have become worse.

So how do the same players become worse. Explain that to me. All I heard was "guitars" and "koreans aren't dominating anymore".
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 29 2016 20:01 GMT
#1097
Some OW showmatches (basically) with 50k viewers while sc2 gets like what? 30k?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 29 2016 20:03 GMT
#1098
On October 30 2016 05:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Some OW showmatches (basically) with 50k viewers while sc2 gets like what? 30k?

OW is newer, on at a slightly better time for NA and has about 200 times the playerbase it doesn't surprise me that much.
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
October 29 2016 20:03 GMT
#1099
On October 30 2016 05:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Some OW showmatches (basically) with 50k viewers while sc2 gets like what? 30k?


20 Million sold copies, playable on consoles... 50k viewers is pretty low for what I expect for OW. But on the other hand, like heroes or Hearthstone, might be fun to play (not for me) but hard to enjoy as an esport.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-29 20:04:19
October 29 2016 20:03 GMT
#1100
On October 30 2016 05:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Some OW showmatches (basically) with 50k viewers while sc2 gets like what? 30k?

It's 5 months old.

It could have 150k viewers or 5k next year. We just don't know yet. All we know is it's popular in Korea and Blizzard is pumping money into it like they used to for sc2.
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