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On October 29 2016 01:41 ionONE wrote:
Why didn't they straight up told "hey the korean scene has huge problems and thats also a reason why the gap is closing" ... really wish we had a Thooorin guy on the desk.
I'm personally glad for the lack of Thorin.
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On October 29 2016 01:41 ionONE wrote:
Why didn't they straight up told "hey the korean scene has huge problems and thats also a reason why the gap is closing" ... really wish we had a Thooorin guy on the desk.
If I had to guess, because that'd be pretty negative and kill the mood.
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On October 29 2016 01:41 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 01:38 Poopi wrote:On October 29 2016 01:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I think the confidence that the best foreign players have now is also a big part of them beating koreans more often. How many times in WoL and HotS have we seen potential upsets get thrown because players went 'full foreigner' as they got nervous when ahead in a game vs a good korean player.
Stephano was so good because he didn't give a fuck about his opponent I still think that foreign players will have a very hard time against korean terrans, and that if the game were to be well designed, they would stand no chance ever. But yeah nowadays with the sponsors dropping and stuff koreans are at an all time low so it's almost easy to beat them, especially in matchups such as PvP. This further enhances the point that WoL beginning was the most competitive Korean era. Kespa era wasn't as tough. koreans kept training together while they were steadily declining and the infrastructures disappearing, so they ended up all getting worse except for some lone wolves like ByuN and the most gifted like Dark. Same thing happened in chess honestly when soviet chess collapsed. Who would have thought that chess would nowadays be dominated by a norwegian, a french, an italian and an american ?
It's not like they had a choice this year when it came to training together. And it's not like the Koreigners did any better.
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United States97276 Posts
we need 2gd at the desk to make it awkward
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On October 29 2016 01:42 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 01:41 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 01:38 Poopi wrote:On October 29 2016 01:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I think the confidence that the best foreign players have now is also a big part of them beating koreans more often. How many times in WoL and HotS have we seen potential upsets get thrown because players went 'full foreigner' as they got nervous when ahead in a game vs a good korean player.
Stephano was so good because he didn't give a fuck about his opponent I still think that foreign players will have a very hard time against korean terrans, and that if the game were to be well designed, they would stand no chance ever. But yeah nowadays with the sponsors dropping and stuff koreans are at an all time low so it's almost easy to beat them, especially in matchups such as PvP. This further enhances the point that WoL beginning was the most competitive Korean era. Kespa era wasn't as tough. koreans kept training together while they were steadily declining and the infrastructures disappearing, so they ended up all getting worse except for some lone wolves like ByuN and the most gifted like Dark. Same thing happened in chess honestly when soviet chess collapsed. Who would have thought that chess would nowadays be dominated by a norwegian, a french, an italian and an american ? Isn't chess dominated by bots?
 true but competitive chess is still played and russian players just don't dominate like they used to. Yeah there is Karjakin, but his run to the championship finals was quite strange and I don't think he'll do too well vs Carlsen.
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On October 29 2016 01:40 ArtyK wrote:Oh so jjr is kinda like hider? Got it...
They're pretty different. Hider is mostly just salty, and whines a lot about balance, David Kim, WCS, David Kim, casters, David Kim etc. Whereas JJR is mostly positive in a weird i-know-better kinda way.
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On October 29 2016 01:42 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 01:41 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 01:38 Poopi wrote:On October 29 2016 01:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I think the confidence that the best foreign players have now is also a big part of them beating koreans more often. How many times in WoL and HotS have we seen potential upsets get thrown because players went 'full foreigner' as they got nervous when ahead in a game vs a good korean player.
Stephano was so good because he didn't give a fuck about his opponent I still think that foreign players will have a very hard time against korean terrans, and that if the game were to be well designed, they would stand no chance ever. But yeah nowadays with the sponsors dropping and stuff koreans are at an all time low so it's almost easy to beat them, especially in matchups such as PvP. This further enhances the point that WoL beginning was the most competitive Korean era. Kespa era wasn't as tough. koreans kept training together while they were steadily declining and the infrastructures disappearing, so they ended up all getting worse except for some lone wolves like ByuN and the most gifted like Dark. Same thing happened in chess honestly when soviet chess collapsed. Who would have thought that chess would nowadays be dominated by a norwegian, a french, an italian and an american ? Isn't chess dominated by bots?
everything is dominated by bots
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On October 29 2016 01:43 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 01:41 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 01:38 Poopi wrote:On October 29 2016 01:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I think the confidence that the best foreign players have now is also a big part of them beating koreans more often. How many times in WoL and HotS have we seen potential upsets get thrown because players went 'full foreigner' as they got nervous when ahead in a game vs a good korean player.
Stephano was so good because he didn't give a fuck about his opponent I still think that foreign players will have a very hard time against korean terrans, and that if the game were to be well designed, they would stand no chance ever. But yeah nowadays with the sponsors dropping and stuff koreans are at an all time low so it's almost easy to beat them, especially in matchups such as PvP. This further enhances the point that WoL beginning was the most competitive Korean era. Kespa era wasn't as tough. koreans kept training together while they were steadily declining and the infrastructures disappearing, so they ended up all getting worse except for some lone wolves like ByuN and the most gifted like Dark. Same thing happened in chess honestly when soviet chess collapsed. Who would have thought that chess would nowadays be dominated by a norwegian, a french, an italian and an american ? It's not like they had a choice this year when it came to training together. And it's not like the Koreigners did any better.
not saying they had a choice. But there are a lot of reasons why the skill gap is now really narrow.
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On October 29 2016 01:42 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 01:41 ionONE wrote:
Why didn't they straight up told "hey the korean scene has huge problems and thats also a reason why the gap is closing" ... really wish we had a Thooorin guy on the desk. gotta be positive at blizzcon
Are they really saying things such as gap closing? Damn thankfully I'm not watching that, so cringe :x.
Hopefully TY and ByuN will show us that the gap won't ever close as long as such players still have interest in the game, just meta/balance variance allowing inferior players to look remotely competent.
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On October 29 2016 01:44 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 01:42 Poopi wrote:On October 29 2016 01:41 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 01:38 Poopi wrote:On October 29 2016 01:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I think the confidence that the best foreign players have now is also a big part of them beating koreans more often. How many times in WoL and HotS have we seen potential upsets get thrown because players went 'full foreigner' as they got nervous when ahead in a game vs a good korean player.
Stephano was so good because he didn't give a fuck about his opponent I still think that foreign players will have a very hard time against korean terrans, and that if the game were to be well designed, they would stand no chance ever. But yeah nowadays with the sponsors dropping and stuff koreans are at an all time low so it's almost easy to beat them, especially in matchups such as PvP. This further enhances the point that WoL beginning was the most competitive Korean era. Kespa era wasn't as tough. koreans kept training together while they were steadily declining and the infrastructures disappearing, so they ended up all getting worse except for some lone wolves like ByuN and the most gifted like Dark. Same thing happened in chess honestly when soviet chess collapsed. Who would have thought that chess would nowadays be dominated by a norwegian, a french, an italian and an american ? Isn't chess dominated by bots? everything is dominated by bots
I can't wait until prostitution is being dominated by bots... Bladerunner gave me some fucked up imagination...
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On October 29 2016 01:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 01:40 ArtyK wrote:Oh so jjr is kinda like hider? Got it... They're pretty different. Hider is mostly just salty, and whines a lot about balance, David Kim, WCS, David Kim, casters, David Kim etc. Whereas JJR is mostly positive in a weird i-know-better way?
oh so JJR sounds like me :D
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ok ByuN show us that you're well prepared and ready to dominate this Blizzcon.
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On October 29 2016 01:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 01:40 ArtyK wrote:Oh so jjr is kinda like hider? Got it... They're pretty different. Hider is mostly just salty, and whines a lot about balance, David Kim, WCS, David Kim, casters, David Kim etc. Whereas JJR is mostly positive in a weird i-know-better kinda way.
Very good desrciption of JJR lol.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
ByuN 
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'They had all the coaches and players like Maru in the booth and I just sat there drinking water alone'
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On October 29 2016 01:47 ArtyK wrote:
So hyped for ByuN!
I think everyone is
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On October 29 2016 01:46 GumBa wrote:
Shut the fuck up apollo
lol what did he say? wasn't paying attention
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EPT
