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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
October 28 2016 16:38 GMT
#361
very bad comparison. Give top shape Gauss or Ramanujan a year and they would still make breakthroughs.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55463 Posts
October 28 2016 16:38 GMT
#362
On October 29 2016 01:36 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 01:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I think the confidence that the best foreign players have now is also a big part of them beating koreans more often. How many times in WoL and HotS have we seen potential upsets get thrown because players went 'full foreigner' as they got nervous when ahead in a game vs a good korean player.

Stephano was so good because he didn't give a fuck about his opponent

when did Showtime beat koreans this year?

Just now didn't you see?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12762 Posts
October 28 2016 16:38 GMT
#363
On October 29 2016 01:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I think the confidence that the best foreign players have now is also a big part of them beating koreans more often. How many times in WoL and HotS have we seen potential upsets get thrown because players went 'full foreigner' as they got nervous when ahead in a game vs a good korean player.

Stephano was so good because he didn't give a fuck about his opponent

I still think that foreign players will have a very hard time against korean terrans, and that if the game were to be well designed, they would stand no chance ever.
But yeah nowadays with the sponsors dropping and stuff koreans are at an all time low so it's almost easy to beat them, especially in matchups such as PvP.

This further enhances the point that WoL beginning was the most competitive Korean era. Kespa era wasn't as tough.
WriterMaru
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
October 28 2016 16:38 GMT
#364
i would agree that players practice really effectively when case of carpal tunnel will drop
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
October 28 2016 16:38 GMT
#365
All I knwo between JJR and inControl is the last thread posted here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/515554-wcs-global-playoffs-group-a-and-b-day-1?page=108
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 28 2016 16:38 GMT
#366
On October 29 2016 01:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
quick break -.-

See you after 30 commercials.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 28 2016 16:38 GMT
#367
On October 29 2016 01:37 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 01:36 Shellshock wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:35 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Was that a shot at JJR?

JJR ?

JimmyJRaynor who Incontrol called out in the other thread


what did he say?

didn't hear today cause I can't watch with sound atm but if you're asking for the incontrol post it was
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/515554-wcs-global-playoffs-group-a-and-b-day-1?page=107#2131
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 28 2016 16:39 GMT
#368
On October 29 2016 01:37 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Yeah I don't even know what the deal between JJR and inControl, all I know is the last thread in the other thread (Day 1 of playoffs)


They had previous beef in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/515164-blizzcon-talent-line-up-announced
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 28 2016 16:39 GMT
#369
On October 29 2016 01:36 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 01:35 GumBa wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:34 Shellshock wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Atm i think korean protoss players simply aren't able to pvp tbh.
But yeah we will see.

they need to practice on EU ladder

EU ladder is the real top tier league,

Neeblet said in an interview that KR ladder wasn't much different than EU ladder and he was pretty disappointed with the lack of challenge


None of the good Koreans even used the ladder. Only Byun, Maru, and Solar
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10045 Posts
October 28 2016 16:39 GMT
#370
how many people saw that coming??? what an upset
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15883 Posts
October 28 2016 16:39 GMT
#371
On October 29 2016 01:38 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 01:36 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I think the confidence that the best foreign players have now is also a big part of them beating koreans more often. How many times in WoL and HotS have we seen potential upsets get thrown because players went 'full foreigner' as they got nervous when ahead in a game vs a good korean player.

Stephano was so good because he didn't give a fuck about his opponent

when did Showtime beat koreans this year?

Just now didn't you see?

you know what I mean
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12762 Posts
October 28 2016 16:39 GMT
#372
On October 29 2016 01:36 Sif_ wrote:
i wonder whos gonna be the MKP of protoss. The guy who takes his mouse and does a few splits in disruptor wars and blows everyones mind. Really shouldnt be that hard in 2016

Nobody is as talented as him micro wise tho.
WriterMaru
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
October 28 2016 16:40 GMT
#373
On October 29 2016 01:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 01:37 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Yeah I don't even know what the deal between JJR and inControl, all I know is the last thread in the other thread (Day 1 of playoffs)


They had previous beef in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/515164-blizzcon-talent-line-up-announced


Oh so jjr is kinda like hider? Got it...
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 28 2016 16:40 GMT
#374
On October 29 2016 01:39 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 01:36 Shellshock wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:35 GumBa wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:34 Shellshock wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Atm i think korean protoss players simply aren't able to pvp tbh.
But yeah we will see.

they need to practice on EU ladder

EU ladder is the real top tier league,

Neeblet said in an interview that KR ladder wasn't much different than EU ladder and he was pretty disappointed with the lack of challenge


None of the good Koreans even used the ladder. Only Byun, Maru, and Solar

yeah I figured. afaik it's pretty much been like that since the beginning. I mean Byun will just randomly go to rank 1 and then leave league when he's bored.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 16:42:10
October 28 2016 16:41 GMT
#375
On October 29 2016 01:38 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 01:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I think the confidence that the best foreign players have now is also a big part of them beating koreans more often. How many times in WoL and HotS have we seen potential upsets get thrown because players went 'full foreigner' as they got nervous when ahead in a game vs a good korean player.

Stephano was so good because he didn't give a fuck about his opponent

I still think that foreign players will have a very hard time against korean terrans, and that if the game were to be well designed, they would stand no chance ever.
But yeah nowadays with the sponsors dropping and stuff koreans are at an all time low so it's almost easy to beat them, especially in matchups such as PvP.

This further enhances the point that WoL beginning was the most competitive Korean era. Kespa era wasn't as tough.

koreans kept training together while they were steadily declining and the infrastructures disappearing, so they ended up all getting worse except for some lone wolves like ByuN and the most gifted like Dark.

Same thing happened in chess honestly when soviet chess collapsed. Who would have thought that chess would nowadays be dominated by a norwegian, a french, an italian and an american ?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 28 2016 16:41 GMT
#376
On October 29 2016 01:39 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 01:36 Shellshock wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:35 GumBa wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:34 Shellshock wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Atm i think korean protoss players simply aren't able to pvp tbh.
But yeah we will see.

they need to practice on EU ladder

EU ladder is the real top tier league,

Neeblet said in an interview that KR ladder wasn't much different than EU ladder and he was pretty disappointed with the lack of challenge


None of the good Koreans even used the ladder. Only Byun, Maru, and Solar

soO and Innovation are ranked 5th and 4th respectively on KR GM
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
ionONE
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany605 Posts
October 28 2016 16:41 GMT
#377
Why didn't they straight up told "hey the korean scene has huge problems and thats also a reason why the gap is closing" ... really wish we had a Thooorin guy on the desk.
JANGBI never forget
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55463 Posts
October 28 2016 16:42 GMT
#378
On October 29 2016 01:41 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 01:39 Fango wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:36 Shellshock wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:35 GumBa wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:34 Shellshock wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Atm i think korean protoss players simply aren't able to pvp tbh.
But yeah we will see.

they need to practice on EU ladder

EU ladder is the real top tier league,

Neeblet said in an interview that KR ladder wasn't much different than EU ladder and he was pretty disappointed with the lack of challenge


None of the good Koreans even used the ladder. Only Byun, Maru, and Solar

soO and Innovation are ranked 5th and 4th respectively on KR GM

So not the good ones is what you're saying.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12762 Posts
October 28 2016 16:42 GMT
#379
On October 29 2016 01:41 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 01:38 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2016 01:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I think the confidence that the best foreign players have now is also a big part of them beating koreans more often. How many times in WoL and HotS have we seen potential upsets get thrown because players went 'full foreigner' as they got nervous when ahead in a game vs a good korean player.

Stephano was so good because he didn't give a fuck about his opponent

I still think that foreign players will have a very hard time against korean terrans, and that if the game were to be well designed, they would stand no chance ever.
But yeah nowadays with the sponsors dropping and stuff koreans are at an all time low so it's almost easy to beat them, especially in matchups such as PvP.

This further enhances the point that WoL beginning was the most competitive Korean era. Kespa era wasn't as tough.

koreans kept training together while they were steadily declining and the infrastructures disappearing, so they ended up all getting worse except for some lone wolves like ByuN and the most gifted like Dark.

Same thing happened in chess honestly when soviet chess collapsed. Who would have thought that chess would nowadays be dominated by a norwegian, a french, an italian and an american ?

Isn't chess dominated by bots?
WriterMaru
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15883 Posts
October 28 2016 16:42 GMT
#380
On October 29 2016 01:41 ionONE wrote:
Why didn't they straight up told "hey the korean scene has huge problems and thats also a reason why the gap is closing" ... really wish we had a Thooorin guy on the desk.

gotta be positive at blizzcon
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
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