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His ID is Neeblet, not Neeb
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 28 2016 03:09 GMT
#2121
On October 28 2016 12:00 PtitDrogo wrote:
In the middle of game 2 when I was down 80 supply I was about to gg but the legendary TL poll gave me the strenght to bring it back thanks guys.

I believe in you Second Replacement Man.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 03:38:29
October 28 2016 03:38 GMT
#2122
I dont get why people like telling others how to do their job, if you think casters are not doing well enough, give some polite and helpful advice, and you should always expect that there is a possibility that they wouldnt listen to you.
Please dont just go ' Caster A should do this' or 'Caster B should do that'.
It's disrespectful and no one likes a know-it-all.
either way, great casting and great games,p. ALSO NEEEEEEEEEBBBB(LET)
Faker is the GOAT!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 04:01:05
October 28 2016 03:55 GMT
#2123
people tell me how to do my job all the time. 95% of the time its useless blather. occasionally, a person will point out something i never thought of before. so i always accept feedback on my work because that 5% is valuable and it provides a nice heuristic check.

scarlett provided correct analysis with her posts in here and it helped me understand what was going on. it made the bly/ptitdrogo series more interesting for me.

rather than bickering back and forth about who can criticize whom and for what reasons.. and end up in an endless spiralling cycle of acrimony ... let's keep in mind this is a Blizzard event and let's examine their mission statement...

"Every employee is encouraged to speak up, listen, be respectful of other opinions, and embrace criticism as just another avenue for great ideas."

AVENUE FOR GREAT IDEAS
fly scarlett to anaheim now! let's get her analysis and insights added to the BlizzCon show!!!
obviously, that is unrealistic, maybe for the next Blizzard show they should do something like this though. include a current top pro player to provide analysis and insight that "entertainment" casters can't provide.

thanks for the insights today scarlett.. in the words of fellow Canadian Jared Cale: "u pwn.. hard."
i hope we get more insights about game play from scarlett as BlizzCon continues.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 28 2016 04:04 GMT
#2124
I doubt even Scarlett would be up for being flown across the continent tonight and with zero notice giving commentary on camera.

우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
October 28 2016 04:11 GMT
#2125
3 mutas for warp prism

SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 28 2016 04:17 GMT
#2126
On October 28 2016 13:11 necrosexy wrote:
3 mutas for warp prism


ya i thought 3 mutas was the warp prism defense squad. 5-8 is the "i hope they overcommit to defense" size
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16086 Posts
October 28 2016 04:21 GMT
#2127
On October 28 2016 12:55 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
people tell me how to do my job all the time. 95% of the time its useless blather. occasionally, a person will point out something i never thought of before. so i always accept feedback on my work because that 5% is valuable and it provides a nice heuristic check.

scarlett provided correct analysis with her posts in here and it helped me understand what was going on. it made the bly/ptitdrogo series more interesting for me.

rather than bickering back and forth about who can criticize whom and for what reasons.. and end up in an endless spiralling cycle of acrimony ... let's keep in mind this is a Blizzard event and let's examine their mission statement...

"Every employee is encouraged to speak up, listen, be respectful of other opinions, and embrace criticism as just another avenue for great ideas."

AVENUE FOR GREAT IDEAS
fly scarlett to anaheim now! let's get her analysis and insights added to the BlizzCon show!!!
obviously, that is unrealistic, maybe for the next Blizzard show they should do something like this though. include a current top pro player to provide analysis and insight that "entertainment" casters can't provide.

thanks for the insights today scarlett.. in the words of fellow Canadian Jared Cale: "u pwn.. hard."
i hope we get more insights about game play from scarlett as BlizzCon continues.

Scarlett should have just said "the caster said xy wrong because of this and this" instead of what she said.
helpful criticism vs unhelpful criticism.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1207 Posts
October 28 2016 04:39 GMT
#2128
On October 28 2016 12:00 PtitDrogo wrote:
In the middle of game 2 when I was down 80 supply I was about to gg but the legendary TL poll gave me the strenght to bring it back thanks guys.

We always knew you could do it! After all, if you're dead, it's pretty hard to throw a game.

But seriously, good job! I mean, as much I cheer for Snute as a TL fan, it was nice to see you playing well and adapting.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 05:04:07
October 28 2016 04:49 GMT
#2129
On October 28 2016 13:21 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2016 12:55 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
people tell me how to do my job all the time. 95% of the time its useless blather. occasionally, a person will point out something i never thought of before. so i always accept feedback on my work because that 5% is valuable and it provides a nice heuristic check.

scarlett provided correct analysis with her posts in here and it helped me understand what was going on. it made the bly/ptitdrogo series more interesting for me.

rather than bickering back and forth about who can criticize whom and for what reasons.. and end up in an endless spiralling cycle of acrimony ... let's keep in mind this is a Blizzard event and let's examine their mission statement...

"Every employee is encouraged to speak up, listen, be respectful of other opinions, and embrace criticism as just another avenue for great ideas."

AVENUE FOR GREAT IDEAS
fly scarlett to anaheim now! let's get her analysis and insights added to the BlizzCon show!!!
obviously, that is unrealistic, maybe for the next Blizzard show they should do something like this though. include a current top pro player to provide analysis and insight that "entertainment" casters can't provide.

thanks for the insights today scarlett.. in the words of fellow Canadian Jared Cale: "u pwn.. hard."
i hope we get more insights about game play from scarlett as BlizzCon continues.

Scarlett should have just said "the caster said xy wrong because of this and this" instead of what she said.
helpful criticism vs unhelpful criticism.

she is representing the pro players who've received undue/incorrect criticisms from broadcasters. The conflict between broadcasters and SC2 pros has been going on since July 27th 2010.

The conflict between top pros and the broadcasters who take a microscope to their performances has been going on for 100+ years in dozens of competitive settings from F1 racing to baseball to backgammon. its in the nature of the relationship and its not going away.

this takes it back to the "endless spiraling cycle of acrimony" i stated in my original post. and i proposed an idea that logically grows from the criticism as long as we "embrace criticism as just another avenue of great ideas".

if all that happens is a bunch of finger pointing BlizzCon won't improve.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13325 Posts
October 28 2016 05:59 GMT
#2130
You know, everyone already said the schedule is kinda messy, but it's even worse when you realize that the players eliminated first only play one day
They should have played the Winners' match first imo. (Well, they should have done one group per day but clearly they didn't want to do things normally)
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 28 2016 06:01 GMT
#2131
oh btw jimmyjraynor is the same as hider.. no idea what I did to piss em off but anytime I'm mentioned like flies to a shit they come in out of nowhere and start explaining how I'm wrong or dumb etc.. it's actually amazing.

Yeah guys. I'm apparently now a blizzard employee and I should find it helpful when someone tells me how to do my job LOL. Btw blizzard reps DID talk with me today and they high fived me and said "awesome job"
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
October 28 2016 06:23 GMT
#2132
Why is there so much downtime ?. I turned the whole thing off in the end. After doing a shift at work I didn't want to spend 2 hours of my time watching overwatch adds any more
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1207 Posts
October 28 2016 06:33 GMT
#2133
On October 28 2016 15:23 Topdoller wrote:
Why is there so much downtime ?. I turned the whole thing off in the end. After doing a shift at work I didn't want to spend 2 hours of my time watching overwatch adds any more


There wasn't all that much downtime when I was watching it live...they did about 6 series in 6-7 hours, which isn't bad. Of course maybe I was paying attention much.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
October 28 2016 07:09 GMT
#2134
On October 28 2016 12:00 PtitDrogo wrote:
In the middle of game 2 when I was down 80 supply I was about to gg but the legendary TL poll gave me the strenght to bring it back thanks guys.

I voted against you, but that doesn't mean I'm not cheering for you!

Let's keep the upsets going!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
October 28 2016 07:17 GMT
#2135
On October 28 2016 15:01 iNcontroL wrote:
oh btw jimmyjraynor is the same as hider.. no idea what I did to piss em off but anytime I'm mentioned like flies to a shit they come in out of nowhere and start explaining how I'm wrong or dumb etc.. it's actually amazing.

Yeah guys. I'm apparently now a blizzard employee and I should find it helpful when someone tells me how to do my job LOL. Btw blizzard reps DID talk with me today and they high fived me and said "awesome job"


Because you did an awesome job!

I'm sure Scarlett also thinks you did an awesome job. It doesn't mean it was perfect or that she or any other sc2 fan can not voice their opinions though. It's not all black and white.

Anyway I love your work and can't wait for the day 2 broadcast!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Koivusto
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Finland542 Posts
October 28 2016 07:24 GMT
#2136
Will we continue shitposting here for today's groups? I'm kind of enjoying how this thread is slowly changing into a soap opera
#1 Blitzcrank #Forever platinum toss --> current diamond Terran <3
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13011 Posts
October 28 2016 08:12 GMT
#2137
Too bad you guys can't watch the French stream, two of the casters are quite knowledgeable on the virtue of being decently ranked on EU so there is not that much problems.
WriterMaru
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
October 28 2016 08:22 GMT
#2138
On October 28 2016 17:12 Poopi wrote:
Too bad you guys can't watch the French stream, two of the casters are quite knowledgeable on the virtue of being decently ranked on EU so there is not that much problems.


ToD, Incontrol, Rotti, Nathanias are all GM so there is almost never a problem in that regard on the english stream either and obviously Artosis knows his stuff too. But they are once again missing a zerg expert, which is regrettable, even though they can still cast most zerg games just fine.

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
October 28 2016 08:24 GMT
#2139
On October 28 2016 17:22 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2016 17:12 Poopi wrote:
Too bad you guys can't watch the French stream, two of the casters are quite knowledgeable on the virtue of being decently ranked on EU so there is not that much problems.


ToD, Incontrol, Rotti, Nathanias are all GM so there is almost never a problem in that regard on the english stream either and obviously Artosis knows his stuff too. But they are once again missing a zerg expert, which is regrettable, even though they can still cast most zerg games just fine.


Also the English stream is the one with all the dank memes.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 08:57:42
October 28 2016 08:57 GMT
#2140
Actually I am still wondering what TLO is doing backstage. They have a zerg expert right there, but aren't using him.

I know he would love to tell the others how wrong they are :D.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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