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His ID is Neeblet, not Neeb | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On October 28 2016 08:08 Fango wrote: After being gone for couple hours I'm confused what did Scarlett say that got people offended? Scarlett said something about casters not knowing what they're talking about in the LR thread and Incontrol obviously saw it and responded on twitter. No one else was offended | ||
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Scarlett`
China2371 Posts
On October 28 2016 07:41 The_Red_Viper wrote: Inconctrol has a point though, while he might not have the knowledge of scarlet concerning sc2 as a whole, she doesn't know how it is to work as a caster. Example: While 100% perfect analysis might be interesting for high lvl players, at the same time it might bore the main audience, etc. I'm saying analyze less if the caster doesn't understand something, not try for more. Trying to analyze something you don't understand leads to the viewers parroting the caster and bashing the player on chat/forums for something they're not even doing wrong. Like making the 5-8 mutas every macro pvz;; It's just required or you can't win against warp prism | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On October 28 2016 08:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Scarlett said something about casters not knowing what they're talking about in the LR thread and Incontrol obviously saw it and responded on twitter. No one else was offended Incontrol made it sound like she was shittalking him in particular. Oh well it's Incontrol anyway, not hard to say something negative and get a quick reply out of him XD | ||
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Little-Chimp
Canada948 Posts
edit: nvm found them : ) | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5522 Posts
On October 28 2016 08:37 Little-Chimp wrote: vods where boys and girls??? edit: nvm found them : ) Where? I see vod link but no games from today | ||
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Topin
Peru10038 Posts
On October 28 2016 08:50 sparklyresidue wrote: Where? I see vod link but no games from today https://www.twitch.tv/starcraft/v/97438114 | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15866 Posts
On October 28 2016 08:16 Scarlett` wrote: I'm saying analyze less if the caster doesn't understand something, not try for more. Trying to analyze something you don't understand leads to the viewers parroting the caster and bashing the player on chat/forums for something they're not even doing wrong. Like making the 5-8 mutas every macro pvz;; It's just required or you can't win against warp prism don't think that's true, very few players make the 5-8 mutas, I've never seen Dark or Solar make those and they are the best macro players | ||
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Scarlett`
China2371 Posts
On October 28 2016 09:13 Charoisaur wrote: don't think that's true, very few players make the 5-8 mutas, I've never seen Dark or Solar make those and they are the best macro players dark plays ling bane defensively until he has spire for the most part (for bl but he gets corruptors anyway) and solar plays hydra. i guess i should say with the style snute uses its required | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On October 28 2016 07:46 Elentos wrote: Day 1: Group A and Group B matches 1 and 2 and losers matches (6 matches total) Day 2: Group C and D matches 1 and 2 and losers matches (6 matches total) Day 3: Winners matches (4 total) Day 4: Decider matches (4 total) What a weird way of doing it. It seems to me like it means that if someone's having an off day, they're out of the tournament, but if someone's on fire one day, it doesn't secure them their spot. Not that it's a problem for me, I just find it a bit strange. | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On October 28 2016 09:52 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches yet? The game quality wasn't great today. I thought Patience vs TRUE Game 2 on Galactic Process was the best of them. | ||
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Topin
Peru10038 Posts
On October 28 2016 09:52 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches yet? i liked Neeb vs Patience | ||
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Hider
Denmark9341 Posts
On October 28 2016 07:41 The_Red_Viper wrote: Inconctrol has a point though, while he might not have the knowledge of scarlet concerning sc2 as a whole, she doesn't know how it is to work as a caster. Example: While 100% perfect analysis might be interesting for high lvl players, at the same time it might bore the main audience, etc. With that logic we will never ever be able to criticize any caster ever because we don't have any experience. And that' simply bullshit. That's type of dynamic means that casters can be so complacement because they can never do anything wrong. So rather than taking Incontrol's side while having no clue what's right or wrong, the appropriate response would be to ask Scarlett to explain what she thought was wrong with the casting. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Scarlett: no caster understands this game at a high pro gamer level. None. But we are meant to give our opinions and do our best to analyze games while being entertaining. Not liking us for being wrong on something is fine.. thinking we shouldn't say things we don't know for a fact is dumb. Saying we shouldn't analyze something "too far" (whatever that means, applying subjective terms here?) is also dumb. Especially under the guise of "that player will catch flak" uh hello.. we all catch fucking flak. I don't see you defending casters here? If I think snute is making a mistake I'm not going to be like "well he is smarter than me so I must be wrong" and not comment on it. Anyways I think you know these things it was just cool to complain for a minute I guess? | ||
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Hexe
United States332 Posts
On October 28 2016 10:53 Hider wrote: With that logic we will never ever be able to criticize any caster ever because we don't have any experience. And that' simply bullshit. That's type of dynamic means that casters can be so complacement because they can never do anything wrong. So rather than taking Incontrol's side while having no clue what's right or wrong, the appropriate response would be to ask Scarlett to explain what she thought was wrong with the casting. you guys realize Incontrol was jesting right? like it was a funny. I don't get riled up at the monitor when a caster is missing something that I see. I however, do get riled up when I see this caster combo + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NGFpKsk.jpg) | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
 You aren't wrong .. I was mostly poking fun at Scarlett hence me taking what she said and changing it. Ultimately in a perfect world we wouldn't miss analyze something or just know more.. but part of being a sc2 caster IS working through techs/choices and discussing them. Just like in a perfect world I wouldn't have to keep reminding people we are entertainers and not perfect analytical machines. Anyways aside from mediocre games I thought today was awesome. Cheering for neeb and I'm hoping drogo keeps the dream alive | ||
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PtitDrogo
France162 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15866 Posts
On October 28 2016 11:27 iNcontroL wrote: Christmas time and thank you You aren't wrong .. I was mostly poking fun at Scarlett hence me taking what she said and changing it. Ultimately in a perfect world we wouldn't miss analyze something or just know more.. but part of being a sc2 caster IS working through techs/choices and discussing them. Just like in a perfect world I wouldn't have to keep reminding people we are entertainers and not perfect analytical machines. Anyways aside from mediocre games I thought today was awesome. Cheering for neeb and I'm hoping drogo keeps the dream alive agree with this. Also casters may not have the knowledge of pro players but they still know more than 99% of the viewers so it's completely fine for them to analyze things On October 28 2016 12:00 PtitDrogo wrote: In the middle of game 2 when I was down 80 supply I was about to gg but the legendary TL poll gave me the strenght to bring it back thanks guys. wp | ||
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