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WESG European Finals in Kyiv - Streams & Schedule - Page 35

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IcemanAsi
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel681 Posts
October 08 2016 18:25 GMT
#681
No sound on stream for the entire final game and on going, casters don't even know and are talking to the void.
killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
October 08 2016 18:25 GMT
#682
BasetradeTV looks like full on professionals compared to this production
Byun | Neeb | Ryung | Solar | ShoWTimE | uThermal | Nerchio | TY | soO | MMA | Crank
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
October 08 2016 18:26 GMT
#683
On October 09 2016 03:25 IcemanAsi wrote:
No sound on stream for the entire final game and on going, casters don't even know and are talking to the void.

fitting for lotv
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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IcemanAsi
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel681 Posts
October 08 2016 18:43 GMT
#684
And sound comes back in full instead of fade, then drops twenty seconds later.
I got to ask how closely is this tournament affiliated with Blizzard?
Cause this shit is amateur hour.
africola
Profile Joined March 2015
Germany35 Posts
October 08 2016 18:45 GMT
#685
this production was on the lowest level I've seen so far... even the weird Malta Haiwaiian Mauritius crap last year where nobody got paid was wayyy better
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-08 18:55:57
October 08 2016 18:55 GMT
#686
I'm glad they saved a few bucks on everything venue / production related. Next time host the event in a Burger King.
Liquid`Snute
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway839 Posts
October 08 2016 19:58 GMT
#687
On October 09 2016 03:55 True_Spike wrote:
I'm glad they saved a few bucks on everything venue / production related. Next time host the event in a Burger King.

The stream has a ton of issues, I agree. But I think the venue was pretty good. My only issue with the venue was the tables backstage - my a4 sized mousepad was slipping on it a lot, and some (not enough apparently) tape wasn't strong enough to hold it in place. Next time i'll bring a mega-size mousepad to any event, just in case. Tables on stage were fine.

Downtime wise, a lot of issues players had were because most don't yet know how to copy their hotkey/settings profiles from home. (USB stick or save it online). Some also don't understand how the process works when accounts get locked, either by logging in with battle.net (forces you to get an e-mail code) or trying to log in to sc2 directly (forces you to reset your sc2 password on bnet website). And if you derp around with that stuff too much, you can get IP banned.

Production could have done some stuff better, such as moving pcs around (designated PC per player), but a lot of the downtime was on the players. When players have to switch pcs, some routines can take anywhere between 3 and 7 minutes. But if players are not used to dealing with stuff they should know how to deal with, it can be anywhere between 10 and 30.

When players don't bring backup hotkey profiles, backup mice, in-ears, or get their accounts locked not knowing what to do, it takes time. Putting players on a different PC between every series can easily cause problems with inexperienced players.

Just wanna defend the venue a little bit, their method (not moving pcs) is not optimal but some players made a lot of delays that were on them.
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Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
October 08 2016 19:58 GMT
#688
Is this done for today?
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
October 08 2016 20:25 GMT
#689
@Snute: has any of this changed with LotV? Or were you given special accounts for other tourneys? Because most players in this tournament were going to LAN since 2010-2011 :o.

I didn't get to see Elazer 3-0 ShoWTimE but I'm glad he did it after all that talk on community PR about him.
Beasty coming back from the forgotten Eastern European players is amazing haha.
WriterMaru
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4037 Posts
October 08 2016 20:37 GMT
#690
Beastyqt. Nuff said.
Drone is a way of living
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
October 08 2016 20:56 GMT
#691
how do I remove CSGO events from the sidebar wtf?
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-08 22:09:38
October 08 2016 22:07 GMT
#692
On October 09 2016 04:58 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2016 03:55 True_Spike wrote:
I'm glad they saved a few bucks on everything venue / production related. Next time host the event in a Burger King.

The stream has a ton of issues, I agree. But I think the venue was pretty good. My only issue with the venue was the tables backstage - my a4 sized mousepad was slipping on it a lot, and some (not enough apparently) tape wasn't strong enough to hold it in place. Next time i'll bring a mega-size mousepad to any event, just in case. Tables on stage were fine.

Downtime wise, a lot of issues players had were because most don't yet know how to copy their hotkey/settings profiles from home. (USB stick or save it online). Some also don't understand how the process works when accounts get locked, either by logging in with battle.net (forces you to get an e-mail code) or trying to log in to sc2 directly (forces you to reset your sc2 password on bnet website). And if you derp around with that stuff too much, you can get IP banned.

Production could have done some stuff better, such as moving pcs around (designated PC per player), but a lot of the downtime was on the players. When players have to switch pcs, some routines can take anywhere between 3 and 7 minutes. But if players are not used to dealing with stuff they should know how to deal with, it can be anywhere between 10 and 30.

When players don't bring backup hotkey profiles, backup mice, in-ears, or get their accounts locked not knowing what to do, it takes time. Putting players on a different PC between every series can easily cause problems with inexperienced players.

Just wanna defend the venue a little bit, their method (not moving pcs) is not optimal but some players made a lot of delays that were on them.

It is kind of funny that we were 7 inexperienced players in Dubai for the Middle East-African qualifiers and we had 0 technical problems during whole tournament.
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-08 22:09:24
October 08 2016 22:08 GMT
#693
Majick
Profile Joined August 2016
416 Posts
October 08 2016 23:53 GMT
#694
Wow, ShoWTimE out 0-3. GJ Elazer!
stevorino
Profile Joined April 2011
957 Posts
October 09 2016 10:33 GMT
#695
nerchio will steamroll beasty and then it's zvz time, i dont think ill even tune in once...
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Liveon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands1083 Posts
October 09 2016 10:51 GMT
#696
On October 09 2016 19:33 stevorino wrote:
nerchio will steamroll beasty and then it's zvz time, i dont think ill even tune in once...

Please give it a try. players say I shouldn't underestimate Beastyqt
Hearthstone manager ECVisualize, Head Admin DSCL
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 09 2016 11:03 GMT
#697
On October 09 2016 19:51 Liveon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2016 19:33 stevorino wrote:
nerchio will steamroll beasty and then it's zvz time, i dont think ill even tune in once...

Please give it a try. players say I shouldn't underestimate Beastyqt

Beasty isn't bad, but honestly Nerchio has top3 ZvT in the world.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
October 09 2016 11:13 GMT
#698
On October 09 2016 20:03 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2016 19:51 Liveon wrote:
On October 09 2016 19:33 stevorino wrote:
nerchio will steamroll beasty and then it's zvz time, i dont think ill even tune in once...

Please give it a try. players say I shouldn't underestimate Beastyqt

Beasty isn't bad, but honestly Nerchio has top3 ZvT in the world.

Korean zergs that bad?
WriterMaru
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 09 2016 11:35 GMT
#699
On October 09 2016 20:13 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2016 20:03 Ej_ wrote:
On October 09 2016 19:51 Liveon wrote:
On October 09 2016 19:33 stevorino wrote:
nerchio will steamroll beasty and then it's zvz time, i dont think ill even tune in once...

Please give it a try. players say I shouldn't underestimate Beastyqt

Beasty isn't bad, but honestly Nerchio has top3 ZvT in the world.

Korean zergs that bad?

I think everyone not named Dark or Solar is terrible.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
October 09 2016 14:25 GMT
#700
Godchio time
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
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