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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24212 Posts
August 11 2016 11:51 GMT
#461
On August 11 2016 20:50 Charoisaur wrote:
if Classic wins he has a really good chance to qualify for blizzcon

and lose in the semis to the eventual runner up once more
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15980 Posts
August 11 2016 11:51 GMT
#462
On August 11 2016 20:50 dazed25 wrote:
i thought the koreans already knew about this high adept count meta from european PvP

koreans started this mass adept meta
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28485 Posts
August 11 2016 11:51 GMT
#463
On August 11 2016 20:49 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 20:49 Penev wrote:
get shaded upon

..

I feel like the correct past tense of shade should be shit.

I Protoss winner, could it be?
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 11 2016 11:52 GMT
#464
On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote:
what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire?

i have no idea how pvp works now

Classic made more adepts

thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP.

this is exactly what i was saying. stats attacked into PO after taking economic damage, which shouldn't have made his army immediately weak, and supplies seemed even. he had to back away. classic did apparently the same thing and won the fight

i mean, i guess it's just little details. but it's hard for a diamond non protoss playing viewer to figure out what the fuck any of that was
TL+ Member
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
August 11 2016 11:52 GMT
#465
Time to give protoss the widow mine.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
August 11 2016 11:52 GMT
#466
It's so hard to punish mistakes in PvP now with overcharge. First game for example, Stats would have had a super powerful blink timing vs the essentially failed stargate opening if it were HotS. But Classic just makes pylons at the front and can never be attacked at all.

All in all, the combination of adepts and new overcharge make PvP really dumb now
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
August 11 2016 11:52 GMT
#467
On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote:
what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire?

i have no idea how pvp works now

Classic made more adepts

thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP.


He was taking massive hits from defensive overcharge
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 11 2016 11:53 GMT
#468
The volcano chicken ad is more interesting than these games :/
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 11 2016 11:53 GMT
#469
On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote:
It's so hard to punish mistakes in PvP now with overcharge. First game for example, Stats would have had a super powerful blink timing vs the essentially failed stargate opening if it were HotS. But Classic just makes pylons at the front and can never be attacked at all.

All in all, the combination of adepts and new overcharge make PvP really dumb now

KARMA
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
August 11 2016 11:53 GMT
#470
On August 11 2016 20:52 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote:
what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire?

i have no idea how pvp works now

Classic made more adepts

thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP.

this is exactly what i was saying. stats attacked into PO after taking economic damage, which shouldn't have made his army immediately weak, and supplies seemed even. he had to back away. classic did apparently the same thing and won the fight

i mean, i guess it's just little details. but it's hard for a diamond non protoss playing viewer to figure out what the fuck any of that was

Classic had like 4 Archons to 0 when Stats attacked, and Stats Warp Prism was super late so no micro/reinforcements
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28485 Posts
August 11 2016 11:53 GMT
#471
On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote:
what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire?

i have no idea how pvp works now

Classic made more adepts

thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP.

It really is like RvR; The attacker loses

But seriously, Stats didn't have his WP in position
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 11 2016 11:53 GMT
#472
On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote:
what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire?

i have no idea how pvp works now

Classic made more adepts

thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP.


He was taking massive hits from defensive overcharge


Yeah that thing was up for like the full duration wailing away on him.

God I hate pylons.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24212 Posts
August 11 2016 11:53 GMT
#473
On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote:
what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire?

i have no idea how pvp works now

Classic made more adepts

thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP.


He was taking massive hits from defensive overcharge

just like Classic in the last fight, so what's the difference ? Did Classic have a far more overwhelming edge in that last fight ?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
August 11 2016 11:53 GMT
#474
On August 11 2016 20:53 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote:
It's so hard to punish mistakes in PvP now with overcharge. First game for example, Stats would have had a super powerful blink timing vs the essentially failed stargate opening if it were HotS. But Classic just makes pylons at the front and can never be attacked at all.

All in all, the combination of adepts and new overcharge make PvP really dumb now

KARMA


Hey I never wanted adepts, why must I suffer?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
August 11 2016 11:54 GMT
#475
On August 11 2016 20:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote:
what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire?

i have no idea how pvp works now

Classic made more adepts

thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP.


He was taking massive hits from defensive overcharge

just like Classic in the last fight, so what's the difference ? Did Classic have a far more overwhelming edge in that last fight ?


Yeah, but the two pylons at the left flank really fucked up the fight for him too, he would've absolutely rolled Stats if not for those. And that's with a good 20-30 army supply advantage.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-11 11:55:40
August 11 2016 11:55 GMT
#476
On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote:
It's so hard to punish mistakes in PvP now with overcharge. First game for example, Stats would have had a super powerful blink timing vs the essentially failed stargate opening if it were HotS. But Classic just makes pylons at the front and can never be attacked at all.

All in all, the combination of adepts and new overcharge make PvP really dumb now


interesting. i actually started to enjoy PvP a little at the end of HoTS. I also liked it at the start of LoTV (beta?) with the disruptor play.
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
August 11 2016 11:55 GMT
#477
On August 11 2016 20:52 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote:
what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire?

i have no idea how pvp works now

Classic made more adepts

thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP.

this is exactly what i was saying. stats attacked into PO after taking economic damage, which shouldn't have made his army immediately weak, and supplies seemed even. he had to back away. classic did apparently the same thing and won the fight

i mean, i guess it's just little details. but it's hard for a diamond non protoss playing viewer to figure out what the fuck any of that was

archons good unit (splash)
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-11 11:55:46
August 11 2016 11:55 GMT
#478
On August 11 2016 20:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote:
On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote:
what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire?

i have no idea how pvp works now

Classic made more adepts

thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP.


He was taking massive hits from defensive overcharge

just like Classic in the last fight, so what's the difference ? Did Classic have a far more overwhelming edge in that last fight ?

He was up like 20 supply when the fight began and had an archon & immortal lead, those things don't really die all that fast. And it was still close.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
August 11 2016 11:56 GMT
#479
Also don't do meth while you're casting.

Rapid's casting kinda reminds me of Husky (RIP)
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
IMPrime
Profile Joined September 2011
United States715 Posts
August 11 2016 11:56 GMT
#480
On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote:
It's so hard to punish mistakes in PvP now with overcharge. First game for example, Stats would have had a super powerful blink timing vs the essentially failed stargate opening if it were HotS. But Classic just makes pylons at the front and can never be attacked at all.

All in all, the combination of adepts and new overcharge make PvP really dumb now

Adepts and new overcharge make TvP really dumb now too
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