On August 11 2016 20:50 Charoisaur wrote:
if Classic wins he has a really good chance to qualify for blizzcon
if Classic wins he has a really good chance to qualify for blizzcon
and lose in the semis to the eventual runner up once more
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:50 Charoisaur wrote: if Classic wins he has a really good chance to qualify for blizzcon and lose in the semis to the eventual runner up once more | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16022 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:50 dazed25 wrote: i thought the koreans already knew about this high adept count meta from european PvP koreans started this mass adept meta | ||
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Penev
28512 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:49 Elentos wrote: I feel like the correct past tense of shade should be shit. ![]() | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote: On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote: what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire? i have no idea how pvp works now Classic made more adepts thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP. this is exactly what i was saying. stats attacked into PO after taking economic damage, which shouldn't have made his army immediately weak, and supplies seemed even. he had to back away. classic did apparently the same thing and won the fight i mean, i guess it's just little details. but it's hard for a diamond non protoss playing viewer to figure out what the fuck any of that was | ||
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seemsgood
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
All in all, the combination of adepts and new overcharge make PvP really dumb now | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote: On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote: what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire? i have no idea how pvp works now Classic made more adepts thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP. He was taking massive hits from defensive overcharge | ||
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Durnuu
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote: It's so hard to punish mistakes in PvP now with overcharge. First game for example, Stats would have had a super powerful blink timing vs the essentially failed stargate opening if it were HotS. But Classic just makes pylons at the front and can never be attacked at all. All in all, the combination of adepts and new overcharge make PvP really dumb now KARMA | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:52 brickrd wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote: On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote: On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote: what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire? i have no idea how pvp works now Classic made more adepts thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP. this is exactly what i was saying. stats attacked into PO after taking economic damage, which shouldn't have made his army immediately weak, and supplies seemed even. he had to back away. classic did apparently the same thing and won the fight i mean, i guess it's just little details. but it's hard for a diamond non protoss playing viewer to figure out what the fuck any of that was Classic had like 4 Archons to 0 when Stats attacked, and Stats Warp Prism was super late so no micro/reinforcements | ||
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Penev
28512 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote: On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote: what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire? i have no idea how pvp works now Classic made more adepts thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP. It really is like RvR; The attacker loses But seriously, Stats didn't have his WP in position | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote: On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote: On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote: what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire? i have no idea how pvp works now Classic made more adepts thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP. He was taking massive hits from defensive overcharge Yeah that thing was up for like the full duration wailing away on him. God I hate pylons. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote: On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote: On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote: what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire? i have no idea how pvp works now Classic made more adepts thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP. He was taking massive hits from defensive overcharge just like Classic in the last fight, so what's the difference ? Did Classic have a far more overwhelming edge in that last fight ? | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:53 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote: It's so hard to punish mistakes in PvP now with overcharge. First game for example, Stats would have had a super powerful blink timing vs the essentially failed stargate opening if it were HotS. But Classic just makes pylons at the front and can never be attacked at all. All in all, the combination of adepts and new overcharge make PvP really dumb now KARMA Hey I never wanted adepts, why must I suffer? | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:53 [PkF] Wire wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote: On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote: On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote: On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote: what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire? i have no idea how pvp works now Classic made more adepts thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP. He was taking massive hits from defensive overcharge just like Classic in the last fight, so what's the difference ? Did Classic have a far more overwhelming edge in that last fight ? Yeah, but the two pylons at the left flank really fucked up the fight for him too, he would've absolutely rolled Stats if not for those. And that's with a good 20-30 army supply advantage. | ||
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dazed25
3566 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote: It's so hard to punish mistakes in PvP now with overcharge. First game for example, Stats would have had a super powerful blink timing vs the essentially failed stargate opening if it were HotS. But Classic just makes pylons at the front and can never be attacked at all. All in all, the combination of adepts and new overcharge make PvP really dumb now interesting. i actually started to enjoy PvP a little at the end of HoTS. I also liked it at the start of LoTV (beta?) with the disruptor play. | ||
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swissman777
1106 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:52 brickrd wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote: On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote: On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote: what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire? i have no idea how pvp works now Classic made more adepts thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP. this is exactly what i was saying. stats attacked into PO after taking economic damage, which shouldn't have made his army immediately weak, and supplies seemed even. he had to back away. classic did apparently the same thing and won the fight i mean, i guess it's just little details. but it's hard for a diamond non protoss playing viewer to figure out what the fuck any of that was archons good unit (splash) | ||
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Elentos
55562 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:53 [PkF] Wire wrote: Show nested quote + On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote: On August 11 2016 20:50 [PkF] Wire wrote: On August 11 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote: On August 11 2016 20:49 brickrd wrote: what happened? did the damage from DTs really add up that much, or did stats mess up by walking across the map before classic's counterattack? or just army positioning/target fire? i have no idea how pvp works now Classic made more adepts thing is Stats had way more adepts when he attacked Classic, and still lost the fight by quite a large margin. That put into question everything I thought I knew about current PvP. He was taking massive hits from defensive overcharge just like Classic in the last fight, so what's the difference ? Did Classic have a far more overwhelming edge in that last fight ? He was up like 20 supply when the fight began and had an archon & immortal lead, those things don't really die all that fast. And it was still close. | ||
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Elentos
55562 Posts
Rapid's casting kinda reminds me of Husky (RIP) | ||
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IMPrime
United States715 Posts
On August 11 2016 20:52 Olli wrote: It's so hard to punish mistakes in PvP now with overcharge. First game for example, Stats would have had a super powerful blink timing vs the essentially failed stargate opening if it were HotS. But Classic just makes pylons at the front and can never be attacked at all. All in all, the combination of adepts and new overcharge make PvP really dumb now Adepts and new overcharge make TvP really dumb now too | ||
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