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IMPrime
Profile Joined September 2011
United States715 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-11 13:34:15
August 11 2016 13:31 GMT
#681
On August 11 2016 22:23 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 21:58 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 11 2016 21:41 Elentos wrote:
On August 11 2016 21:40 Charoisaur wrote:
Dark vs Classic will be gigantic

I hope Dark wins because the last thing this tournament needs is an adept vs adept grand finals.

If it gets past the adept vs adept phase i find pvp really enjoyable with disruptor play or chargelot archon immortal.

It just really doesn't happen anymore.

Also getting past the adept phase is the key to getting enjoyable games in all Protoss matchups now.


Sadly you're right, and this would explain why tvp is so miserable to watch, because the entire game is the adept phase.



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On August 11 2016 22:17 IMPrime wrote:
Adept, liberator, and to an extent ravagers are ruining the game

I think ravagers are pretty harmless in that regard

Certainly ravagers are not as bad as adepts or liberators

But they singlehandedly own forcefields which were one of the big "balancing" factors in pvz in wol and hots, since you would need sentries to help stop early pushes as well as be able to have any sort of decent fight in the middle of the map. I think ravagers might be one of the reasons why toss has adepts, to put a little pressure on zergs early on (without adepts toss would have absolutely no harass units in pvz aside from warp prism drops - which aren't really that good without adepts in them - and oracles/phoenixes), and has photon overcharge, to help defend early ravagers.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 11 2016 14:05 GMT
#682
Dark>>>Classic (Classic said himself that Dark kills him in practice)

Zest>>>Patience (this one ain't even close).
Dear>>>Solar (most likely)
Zest>>>Dear (last season he beat him 4-0 so yeah)

Finals gonna be Dark vs Zest, I think people predicted this a few weeks ago when it was confirmed they were in different brackets. Dunno who wins this.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
August 11 2016 14:56 GMT
#683
Zest is notoriously bad in PvZ.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
August 11 2016 15:07 GMT
#684
dreadful day for KT, specially since it's against two SKT players :s
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 11 2016 15:19 GMT
#685
RIP KT RIP liquibets
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 11 2016 16:28 GMT
#686
wow KT is in disastah
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 11 2016 16:40 GMT
#687
On August 11 2016 23:56 massivez wrote:
Zest is notoriously bad in PvZ.


You say that but he VERY rarely goes up against Zergs. He went vs SoO in GSL S1 and killed him, he went up against Solar in GSL S2 and killed him, the only big losses he's taken in Korea are to Rougue in SPL. Zest and Dark are 2:2 this year I think.

We don't know if he avoids Zergs because he's bad against them, or he focuses only on PvT/P because he barely ever has to PvZ.

Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
August 11 2016 16:59 GMT
#688
On August 12 2016 01:40 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 23:56 massivez wrote:
Zest is notoriously bad in PvZ.


You say that but he VERY rarely goes up against Zergs. He went vs SoO in GSL S1 and killed him, he went up against Solar in GSL S2 and killed him, the only big losses he's taken in Korea are to Rougue in SPL. Zest and Dark are 2:2 this year I think.

We don't know if he avoids Zergs because he's bad against them, or he focuses only on PvT/P because he barely ever has to PvZ.


He said in the group selection for GSL that he almost never loses against Zerg in practice but has trouble in tournament matches.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
August 11 2016 17:21 GMT
#689
Today was a tremendous day for
SK
TELECOM
T1
!!!!

Although I'm rather pissed that Dark and Classic now have to face each other in the semis ;/
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
August 11 2016 17:31 GMT
#690
On August 12 2016 01:59 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 01:40 Fango wrote:
On August 11 2016 23:56 massivez wrote:
Zest is notoriously bad in PvZ.


You say that but he VERY rarely goes up against Zergs. He went vs SoO in GSL S1 and killed him, he went up against Solar in GSL S2 and killed him, the only big losses he's taken in Korea are to Rougue in SPL. Zest and Dark are 2:2 this year I think.

We don't know if he avoids Zergs because he's bad against them, or he focuses only on PvT/P because he barely ever has to PvZ.


He said in the group selection for GSL that he almost never loses against Zerg in practice but has trouble in tournament matches.

if he mostly practices with leenock and losira I can see why
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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
August 11 2016 18:07 GMT
#691
Wow dat SKT stomp.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 12 2016 05:08 GMT
#692
Funny how the rise of one KT coincides sharply with the slump of the other. Both in Starleagues and Proleagues. SKT had a stronger start of the year, then faded and got overtaken by KT in mid-year. Is the cycle turning once more?
gg no re thx
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
August 12 2016 16:41 GMT
#693
On August 12 2016 14:08 RKC wrote:
Funny how the rise of one KT coincides sharply with the slump of the other. Both in Starleagues and Proleagues. SKT had a stronger start of the year, then faded and got overtaken by KT in mid-year. Is the cycle turning once more?

No, now Jin Air just slaughters everyone.
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