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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
July 31 2016 05:34 GMT
#641
On July 31 2016 14:32 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 14:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:18 stuchiu wrote:
A huge amount of my loss of interest in SC2 came directly from mutas being shit in ZvT.

I mean if ZvT would be good regardless it wouldn't be a problem, but who wants to watch roach ravager??


David Kim

David Kim enjoys fast ultra builds the most as he thinks ultras are a really fun unit
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10112 Posts
July 31 2016 05:34 GMT
#642
On July 31 2016 14:33 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 14:31 TheDougler wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:24 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:22 Silvana wrote:
DK are you fucking watching

maybe they can nerf the hell out of the fire rate of liberators since they don't wanna remove the +light bonus


Just remove the splash on the AA air attack and give it to the thor


Pretty sure the Thor still has splash AA (doesn't it?)

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Thor_(Legacy_of_the_Void)

It's extremely weak.

i havent seen a thor in a pro game in ages
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8307 Posts
July 31 2016 05:34 GMT
#643
On July 31 2016 14:32 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 14:31 TheDougler wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:24 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:22 Silvana wrote:
DK are you fucking watching

maybe they can nerf the hell out of the fire rate of liberators since they don't wanna remove the +light bonus


Just remove the splash on the AA air attack and give it to the thor


Pretty sure the Thor still has splash AA (doesn't it?)

Well then just get rid of it on the liberator, maybe we'd see more thors again


Yeah that's what I'd like. I miss having the thors, and I enjoyed the Thor/Muta magic boxing dynamic. I think libs would be balanced if they were still good against mutas, but didn't do splash. I mean, they can be reactored out, it's not hard to get a sufficient number of them fast.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 31 2016 05:34 GMT
#644
he'll probably just give mutas another speed buff to compensate. that seems to be the usual course of action. maybe a corruptor speed boost
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
July 31 2016 05:34 GMT
#645
I want to see some Zergs play let's go!
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 31 2016 05:34 GMT
#646
On July 31 2016 14:32 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 14:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:18 stuchiu wrote:
A huge amount of my loss of interest in SC2 came directly from mutas being shit in ZvT.

I mean if ZvT would be good regardless it wouldn't be a problem, but who wants to watch roach ravager??


David Kim

Is it actually fair to always blame David Kim for everything? Poor guy :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13995 Posts
July 31 2016 05:35 GMT
#647
wtf, that's not valdez D:
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
July 31 2016 05:35 GMT
#648
On July 31 2016 14:34 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 14:32 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:31 TheDougler wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:24 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:22 Silvana wrote:
DK are you fucking watching

maybe they can nerf the hell out of the fire rate of liberators since they don't wanna remove the +light bonus


Just remove the splash on the AA air attack and give it to the thor


Pretty sure the Thor still has splash AA (doesn't it?)

Well then just get rid of it on the liberator, maybe we'd see more thors again


Yeah that's what I'd like. I miss having the thors, and I enjoyed the Thor/Muta magic boxing dynamic. I think libs would be balanced if they were still good against mutas, but didn't do splash. I mean, they can be reactored out, it's not hard to get a sufficient number of them fast.

the greatest thing about thors was dreams thor micro.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 31 2016 05:35 GMT
#649
On July 31 2016 14:33 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 14:32 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:31 TheDougler wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:24 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:22 Silvana wrote:
DK are you fucking watching

maybe they can nerf the hell out of the fire rate of liberators since they don't wanna remove the +light bonus


Just remove the splash on the AA air attack and give it to the thor


Pretty sure the Thor still has splash AA (doesn't it?)

Well then just get rid of it on the liberator, maybe we'd see more thors again


Perfect


Idk why we need a thor/tank/viking in one unit anyway. Remove the thor part of the liberator and we might get to a better unit.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10112 Posts
July 31 2016 05:35 GMT
#650
On July 31 2016 14:34 Shellshock wrote:
he'll probably just give mutas another speed buff to compensate. that seems to be the usual course of action. maybe a corruptor speed boost

defense matrix for mutas
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
TheWinks
Profile Joined July 2011
United States572 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 05:36:09
July 31 2016 05:35 GMT
#651
On July 31 2016 14:32 Vedeynevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 14:30 Sif_ wrote:
Mutas clumping up and a-moving against Libs is the same as the whining about marines vs banes pre-MKP splitting them up


"Splitting against libs" have you seen how large the splash radius on libs is?

Yes, and it's happened before. Leenock could have done it and taken a straight up lib vs muta fight, but getting surprised in the corner of the map made it impossible.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 31 2016 05:35 GMT
#652
On July 31 2016 14:33 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 14:32 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:31 TheDougler wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:24 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:22 Silvana wrote:
DK are you fucking watching

maybe they can nerf the hell out of the fire rate of liberators since they don't wanna remove the +light bonus


Just remove the splash on the AA air attack and give it to the thor


Pretty sure the Thor still has splash AA (doesn't it?)

Well then just get rid of it on the liberator, maybe we'd see more thors again


Perfect

Or give Brood Lords aoe anti-air.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
July 31 2016 05:35 GMT
#653
On July 31 2016 14:34 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 14:33 geokilla wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:31 TheDougler wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:24 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:22 Silvana wrote:
DK are you fucking watching

maybe they can nerf the hell out of the fire rate of liberators since they don't wanna remove the +light bonus


Just remove the splash on the AA air attack and give it to the thor


Pretty sure the Thor still has splash AA (doesn't it?)

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Thor_(Legacy_of_the_Void)

It's extremely weak.

i havent seen a thor in a pro game in ages

There is no need to make them. Libs are better in everything possible. (Thor still tank banes better though)
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
July 31 2016 05:35 GMT
#654
That Harvester split by Cure. How do you do that....
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 31 2016 05:36 GMT
#655
On July 31 2016 14:35 geokilla wrote:
That Harvester split by Cure. How do you do that....


Git gud.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 05:36:21
July 31 2016 05:36 GMT
#656
On July 31 2016 14:34 Shellshock wrote:
he'll probably just give mutas another speed buff to compensate. that seems to be the usual course of action. maybe a corruptor speed boost


Yes. Everything gets faster and simpler. Next he'll combine stim and combat shields.
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8307 Posts
July 31 2016 05:36 GMT
#657
On July 31 2016 14:34 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 14:33 geokilla wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:31 TheDougler wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:24 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 31 2016 14:22 Silvana wrote:
DK are you fucking watching

maybe they can nerf the hell out of the fire rate of liberators since they don't wanna remove the +light bonus


Just remove the splash on the AA air attack and give it to the thor


Pretty sure the Thor still has splash AA (doesn't it?)

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Thor_(Legacy_of_the_Void)

It's extremely weak.

i havent seen a thor in a pro game in ages


Well of course, because liberators are better in every way than the Thor. (High damage single shots, Splash AA damage, but more mobile, cheaper, can be reactored out, faster build time), But it doesn't have to be that way...
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13995 Posts
July 31 2016 05:36 GMT
#658
On July 31 2016 14:35 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2016 14:34 Shellshock wrote:
he'll probably just give mutas another speed buff to compensate. that seems to be the usual course of action. maybe a corruptor speed boost

defense matrix for mutas

affirmative sir, we have you on visual
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 31 2016 05:36 GMT
#659
TY has godlike tvt, cmon this has to be our map. (but then they send sOs )
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 31 2016 05:36 GMT
#660
On July 31 2016 14:35 geokilla wrote:
That Harvester split by Cure. How do you do that....


IIRC PL version has a delay for you to split workers before it actually starts
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