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IEM XI Shanghai
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_XI_-_Shanghai
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- Single Elimination Bracket
- Each Game Best of 5 Until Bo7 Finals!
- 4 Day Lan
- Pro League Round 3 Final
[IEM XI] Shanghai Quarter Final & Semi Finals
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
Poll: Neeb vs Hydra Neeb Wins (17) Hydra Wins (13) 30 total votes Your vote: Neeb vs Hydra Poll: uThermal vs Elazer uThermal Wins (18) Elazer Wins (11) 29 total votes Your vote: uThermal vs Elazer | ||
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
I am predicting a win for Neeb just for that image !! | ||
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
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Ej_
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On July 30 2016 01:16 Parrek wrote: Neeb has got it 3-1. Hydra hasn't succeeded with his aggressive stuff, his defensive stuff, and is unlikely to be able to completely change his style in a way Neeb couldn't deal with. Also, Nerchio is gonna 3-0 Violet so hard. Violet hasn't looked good in a very long time and has been losing to low tier players let alone THE BEST. ZvZ is Nerchio's weakest matchup atm, he really doesn't look good at all in the mirror. Wouldn't be surprised if it went either way. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
 Neeb 3-2  Hydra  uThermal 3-1 Elazer viOLet 0-3 BonjioNeeb 3-2 ShoWTimE uThermal 1-3 > Korean Zergs | ||
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
On July 30 2016 05:24 Cricketer12 wrote: IEM really needs to stop with the whole only have finals on last day thing... Every time IEM has a finals-only day, there's a reason. When it happens at Katovice, it's because they have the finals of every single game on the same day, so it's a parade of finals for the entire season and it's hype as hell. For this one, we have the proleague finals happening on the same schedule as the Shanghai finals, so it makes sense as well. | ||
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Aeromi
France14456 Posts
On July 30 2016 05:24 Cricketer12 wrote: IEM really needs to stop with the whole only have finals on last day thing... The venue closes at 17.00 CST, you can not play 5 BO5 and one BO7 when you start around 9 AM CST. | ||
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n3p
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uThermal
Netherlands165 Posts
On July 30 2016 05:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Neeb 3-2 Hydra uThermal 3-1 Elazer viOLet 0-3 BonjioNeeb 3-2 ShoWTimE uThermal 1-3 > Korean ZergsI can live with this | ||
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Elentos
55465 Posts
Question, if you make it that far but no further, do we still count you as "casual"? | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
Why don't you have a progamer tag? TL wtf. | ||
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zakadar
Germany409 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12051 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
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Deathstar
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BretZ
United States1510 Posts
On July 30 2016 08:00 The_Red_Viper wrote: Hydra will win vs Neeb this time guys please no | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
We need more zerg in our lives, believe me | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8988 Posts
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 30 2016 09:57 Ej_ wrote: Neeb better 3-0 real quick, cuz I have to wake up for Tempo Storm vs MVP Miracle in 10 hours How big is heroes in korea? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
If I were to rank top 5 teams in the world, 4 would be Korean, but only 3 of those teams have actual sponsors (MVP and TS). But the game's pretty much on a death sentence and only the money pumped from Blizzard keeps the competitive scene alive. | ||
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Topin
Peru10045 Posts
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:07 Ej_ wrote: If I were to rank top 5 teams in the world, 4 would be Korean, but only 3 of those teams have actual sponsors (MVP and TS). But the game's pretty much on a death sentence and the money pumped from Blizzard keeps the competitive scene alive. I never could get into heroes (imo it's the worst of the mobas). Blizzard keeping a competitive scene alive sounds familiar though ^^ OW could maybe be the next big thing so blizzard should be fine though | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
DH Austin was fun | ||
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Ej_
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The_Red_Viper
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BretZ
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Ej_
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:18 Ej_ wrote: fantastic rally putting all OLs as far from spores as possible it's bait those hydras too | ||
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Ej_
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The_Red_Viper
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Alchemik
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The_Red_Viper
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On July 30 2016 10:20 Ej_ wrote: I hope Hydra all-ins next 2 games and doesn't waste any more of my precious sleep time. Ah cmon, you surely don't need more than 7-8 hours  | ||
Shellshock
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Ej_
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On July 30 2016 10:21 The_Red_Viper wrote: Ah cmon, you surely don't need more than 7-8 hours I slept 5 last night, while I'd been clocking 9+ for last 4 weeks It's all because of these Asian tournaments. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
still not enough to lose but still losing 5 disruptors for free is harsh | ||
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uThermal
Netherlands165 Posts
On July 30 2016 07:23 Elentos wrote: Question, if you make it that far but no further, do we still count you as "casual"? ill be a casual until i win no cheating | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:21 Shellshock wrote: come on neeb at least have tempest tech ready it's ok, 5 brood lords isn't really a fleet of death | ||
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Topin
Peru10045 Posts
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BretZ
United States1510 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:24 BretZ wrote: Neeb didn't even play all that hot and he made that look easy. I hope it goes to game 5 though Hydra's build was basically "let's build all these cool units" | ||
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
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Ej_
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Aocowns
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CosmicSpiral
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:32 CosmicSpiral wrote: Hydra not focus-firing the weak adepts. hydra needs to gitgud, he should get some lessons from DRG in being good. | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
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Topin
Peru10045 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:33 Cricketer12 wrote: hydra needs to gitgud, he should get some lessons from DRG in being good. step 1: disappear | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:33 Cricketer12 wrote: hydra needs to gitgud, he should get some lessons from DRG in being good. by retiring? | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
you cant lose if you dont play | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
If he loses 0-3 to Neeb, he should consider it. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:36 CosmicSpiral wrote: If he loses 0-3 to Neeb, he should consider it. didn't get the memo at dreamhack I guess | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
it's the perfect plan | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
He's a stubborn boy, you need to send the message twice. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
you don't lose all the games you don't play | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
- SGTK, the antithesis to Gretzky | ||
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genghiswolve
Germany101 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:39 Cricketer12 wrote: "Neeb is the best american". Nate clearly has never met Polt. Have you seen polt the last months and neeb the last months? Even scarlett and masa might be better than polt atm. And that is considering the Shoutcraft from TB. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
think it sounds better if you say any not all | ||
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Ej_
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
You lose 100% of the games you never play - Me My reply was late damnit | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:39 Cricketer12 wrote: "Neeb is the best american". Nate clearly has never met Polt. Polt's in his mid-year lull right now. Despite his ShoutCraft Kings wins, he still hasn't gotten back to peak form, we have to wait till Blizzcon for that. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:40 genghiswolve wrote: Have you seen polt the last months and neeb the last months? Even scarlett and masa might be better than polt atm. And that is considering the Shoutcraft from TB. is joke, cause polt in korean. Not to mention if you look at overall careers, neeb ain't got shit. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Polt's in his mid-year lull right now. Despite his ShoutCraft Kings wins, he still hasn't gotten back to peak form, we have to wait till Blizzcon for that. he looked pretty damn hot in Leifeng | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:40 Cricketer12 wrote: think it sounds better if you say any not all you win all the games you don't play | ||
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Ej_
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Polt's in his mid-year lull right now. Despite his ShoutCraft Kings wins, he still hasn't gotten back to peak form, we have to wait till Blizzcon for that. except polt is only slightly better at blizzcon than zest... | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
Only when the game is tic-tac-toe or thermonuclear warfare. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
2/10 | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17623 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:43 The_Red_Viper wrote: I mean you do what makes you win games, but this isn't really interesting gameplay :/ 2/10 no, it goes "You make what makes you win games." | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
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HelpMeGetBetter
United States763 Posts
God. Neeb. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8988 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:44 blade55555 wrote: Man everytime I watch Hydra... He just doesn't seem like he knows what to do. Not surpirsed when Neeb beats him tbh. I wonder if Hydra practices on NA or KR or both. probably on Fish | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Remember when Hydra losing to foreigners was almost unheard of shoutout to belgium fantasy | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Remember when Hydra losing to foreigners was almost unheard of I'm sure Scandicain coached Neeb | ||
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Kazi25
Philippines236 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:44 Shellshock wrote: should have just played Has VODs that mma whirlwind game, the jaedong polar night game, and game one from last night gogo | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17623 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:44 blade55555 wrote: I wonder if Hydra practices (jk, but that's what Neeb made it look like) | ||
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Topin
Peru10045 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Remember when Hydra losing to foreigners was almost unheard of His sc2 skill got naturalized | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
filthy immigrant gotta adapt | ||
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
neeb drew race switch and adept + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gqwj227.png) | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
neeb: "Adepts are good. I use them every game" | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:47 Shellshock wrote: at least it's not as bad as Hydra Masa yet or HuK v HyuN | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17623 Posts
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genghiswolve
Germany101 Posts
Oh really I thought they sucked /irony off | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:50 Charoisaur wrote: I wonder if Hydras zvp is really bad or Neebs pvz really good. neeb's vHydra is really good | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17623 Posts
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:50 Charoisaur wrote: I wonder if Hydras zvp is really bad or Neebs pvz really good. it's by far Hydra's worst matchup recently. has bo5 losses to PiliPili and Mana online recently. Lost to Seed in Leifeng Cup. 10% lower than his ZvT last 2 months and 40% lower than his ZvZ for win rate. To be fair, it's a lot of losses against Neeb bringing it down though | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:48 Die4Ever wrote: ahahaha Neeb didn't laugh at all about the adepts, super serious about them Protosses aren't able to laugh at the fact that we finally got a good gateway unit after 5 years of them being trash. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
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Topin
Peru10045 Posts
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Vega62a
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:51 Topin wrote: hahahaha wtf was that IEM injected Lycan with 200cc of MLG | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Protosses aren't able to laugh at the fact that we finally got a good gateway unit after 5 years of them being trash. im inclined to point out that lilbow won a wcs by making stalkers On July 30 2016 10:53 Ej_ wrote: meanwhile 2014 had 15 consecutive final appearances and 8 consecutive wins by Protoss in premier tournaments off the back of blink stalkers actually he just said it better ^ | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Protosses aren't able to laugh at the fact that we finally got a good gateway unit after 5 years of them being trash. meanwhile 2014 had 15 consecutive final appearances and 8 consecutive wins by Protoss in premier tournaments off the back of blink stalkers | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:54 Shellshock wrote: Elazer vs uThermal should be the 2nd most hype match of the tournament so far imo. only behind Has was about to say the same thing | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:54 Shellshock wrote: Elazer vs uThermal should be the 2nd most hype match of the tournament so far imo. only behind Has why? | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Protosses aren't able to laugh at the fact that we finally got a good gateway unit after 5 years of them being trash. I always felt like blink sentry was decent in late HotS vs zerg. | ||
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
no adepts | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
fucking turned my hype switch on | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:54 Shellshock wrote: Elazer vs uThermal should be the 2nd most hype match of the tournament so far imo. only behind Has isnt it like the only kinda hype match up except for showtime vs masa | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:53 Ej_ wrote: meanwhile 2014 had 15 consecutive final appearances and 8 consecutive wins by Protoss in premier tournaments off the back of blink stalkers They were admittedly pretty broken especially with the map pool at the time, but they weren't exactly well rounded units. Adepts are slightly broken AND well-rounded. | ||
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MiniFotToss
China2430 Posts
dang 15-4 since, Neeb is a God | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:58 Aocowns wrote: isnt it like the only kinda hype match up except for showtime vs masa nerchio v neeb could be pretty hype | ||
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Biscuittzz
155 Posts
With the format of these small 16-player tournaments, for the better players the first round is a non-contest usually, so the quarter-final will be their first game. Win that and they're into a Semi. Deep run completed with easy money in the bag. Polt sleep-walked into the semis of DH Tours with really bad ( relative to his usual) play yet pocketed a cool 10K. Competition too easy or is there a need for a lower bracket? | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 30 2016 10:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote: They were admittedly pretty broken especially with the map pool at the time, but they weren't exactly well rounded units. Adepts are slightly broken AND well-rounded. in ZvP at least, they were the answer to literally everything after SH got removed | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
[QUOTE]On July 30 2016 10:58 Aocowns wrote: [QUOTE]On July 30 2016 10:54 Shellshock wrote: Elazer vs uThermal should be the 2nd most hype match of the tournament so far imo. only behind Has[/QUOTE] isnt it like the only kinda hype match up except for showtime vs masa[/QUOTE Nerchio Neeb could be pretty hype despite adepts[/QUOTE] i was going with the "so far" assumption, but yeah I think showtime vs neeb and winner of that vs whoever comes out of bottom side should be pretty good. id also like to see nerchio vs uthermal | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
best polish zvt (best zergs) vs best foreigner tvz | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:02 Shellshock wrote: best polish zvt (best zergs) vs best foreigner tvz I guess Nerchio plays like a Korean so you're right, at least about the ZvT part | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:02 Shellshock wrote: best polish zvt (best zergs) vs best foreigner tvz uThermal is kinda like ByuN when I think of it, except that ByuN also knows how to play late game TvZ. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:04 Alchemik wrote: I guess Nerchio plays like a Korean so you're right, at least about the ZvT part nerchiwho? | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:04 Alchemik wrote: I guess Nerchio plays like a Korean so you're right, at least about the ZvT part In the current climate playing ZvT like a Korean sounds like a diss tbh. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
some dude who wears jorts and drops maps to cyan. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:05 ZigguratOfUr wrote: In the current climate playing ZvT like a Korean sounds like a diss tbh. class is permanent | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:07 Cricketer12 wrote: some dude who wears jorts and drops maps to cyan. oh I had to delete him from my memory after that | ||
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:00 Biscuittzz wrote: One thing that really annoys with these smaller tournaments is how they, just like Lycan said to Neeb there, always say that hopefully players can make a deep run or go far. With the format of these small 16-player tournaments, for the better players the first round is a non-contest usually, so the quarter-final will be their first game. Win that and they're into a Semi. Deep run completed with easy money in the bag. Polt sleep-walked into the semis of DH Tours with really bad ( relative to his usual) play yet pocketed a cool 10K. Competition too easy or is there a need for a lower bracket? Polt had one of the easiest brackets tbh. Same with Violet. The biggest issue is the foreign scene isn't quite deep enough to make really really hyped 32 man brackets. However, I think it's slowly changing as more NA players get into the spotlight and a couple sea players seem to be getting better too so there are less easy slots like Iaguz often is or PilliPilli or Bails. The first has a horrible mentality self admitted and PilliPilli and Bails are still coming into their own, but have had their moments in online events | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:07 Shellshock wrote: oh I had to delete him from my memory after that totally understandable | ||
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Topin
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Shellshock
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:04 ZigguratOfUr wrote: uThermal is kinda like ByuN when I think of it, except that ByuN also knows how to play late game TvZ. vs solar he got bopped in lategame. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:08 Alchemik wrote: oh right, how did Nerchio lose a map against Cyan Cyan actually is pretty good and won a straight up macro game. | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:08 Shellshock wrote: Does floating your main over count towards the fourth base count? Actually it doesn't matter. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
That's offline ByuN. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
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Cricketer12
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Shellshock
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On July 30 2016 11:12 Aocowns wrote: so whats next map I bet you're hoping for Frozen Temple | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
I don't think there's a difference. offline he just plays vs actual good player | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
'isn't that the best thing about LotV, the poo emote?' ooookay | ||
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Topin
Peru10045 Posts
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:13 Charoisaur wrote: I don't think there's a difference. offline he just plays vs actual good player he rekt Solar online a week before that | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Tune in, first thing I hear 'isn't that the best thing about LotV, the poo emote?' ooookay what's better? | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
adepts | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
NICE! got sejong instead, thats my second favourite ZvT map after frozen | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:14 Topin wrote: It don't matter if you win with proxy reaper or proxy 4 rax. Winning's winning. I like how these are the only options | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
proxy 4 cc is the hidden third option | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
Truly we have reached the pinnacle of Starcraft. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
not like anyone would scout for uThermal's third, no need to hide | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
and he also lost to stephano online | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
it's been all downhill since that basically mine out Frozen Temple game vs Snute | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
in a bo1. It isn't just about the results either, ByuN's play looks noticeably worse offline. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
sure, but your point was that he doesn't plays good players online | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote: in a bo1. It isn't just about the results either, ByuN's play looks noticeably worse offline. Byun being an offline choker isn't a recent thing either. that GSL Semifinal vs Seed. such an awful choke | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:20 Shellshock wrote: Byun being an offline choker isn't a recent thing either. that GSL Semifinal vs Seed. such an awful choke that or Seed being a god for all of 2 weeks | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:22 Cricketer12 wrote: that or Seed being a god for all of 2 weeks he pulled scvs, sent them back and then pulled them giving seed enough time to get a defense | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:19 Alchemik wrote: sure, but your point was that he doesn't plays good players online my point was that there isn't a big difference between his online and offline play an he just looks like a god online because he mostly plays against weak players. sometimes he beats strong players of course but he's also losing to players like stephano or barely winning against snute. | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:23 Shellshock wrote: he pulled scvs, sent them back and then pulled them giving seed enough time to get a defense seed used the same jedi mind trick billowy used vs flash | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:24 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: aww yes the gamesense turret did he make it before the upgrade finished? | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:25 Shellshock wrote: wow taking a 4th and made a ghost academy. who is this? its sejong, he can afford to go out of his comfort zone | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:23 Charoisaur wrote: my point was that there isn't a big difference between his online and offline play an he just looks like a god online because he mostly plays against weak players. sometimes he beats strong players of course but he's also losing to players like stephano or barely winning against snute. "losing to players like Stephano" meaning he lost one game, his next loss vs a foreigner being more than a month and a half ago against Neeb | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:25 Shellshock wrote: wow taking a 4th and made a ghost academy. who is this? I'm amazed. Even his 3/3 was started before losing 100 supply in an engagement against ultras. | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:26 Alchemik wrote: "losing to players like Stephano" meaning he lost one game, his next loss vs a foreigner being more than a month and a half ago against Neeb to neeb he also lost, that I forgot to mention | ||
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though elazer kind of gave it away oh boy Dasan | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Ultralisk need a burrow duration buff. Only lurkers and swarmhosts are slower at burrowing, and unburrowing an ultra takes twice as long as any other unit. maybe if they could move while burrow, something like charge | ||
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Just been disappointing games from what could have been hype series... | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Ultralisk need a burrow duration buff. Only lurkers and swarmhosts are slower at burrowing, and unburrowing an ultra takes twice as long as any other unit. don't you think it makes sense that such a big unit needs longer to unburrow? | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Ultralisk need a burrow duration buff. Only lurkers and swarmhosts are slower at burrowing, and unburrowing an ultra takes twice as long as any other unit. Maybe if they evolve less thick armor they could burrow and unburrow more easily | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:31 Topin wrote: maybe if they could move while burrow, something like charge they could call it charge burrow...wait | ||
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still unplayable, but they're getting there | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:32 Shellshock wrote: Maybe if they evolve less thick armor they could burrow and unburrow more easily can't happen, as abathur explained, ultras are perfect. | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:32 Charoisaur wrote: don't you think it makes sense that such a big unit needs longer to unburrow? It does except queens burrow 1.6 times faster than drones and zerglings. Also banelings are fat zerglings, but are faster at burrowing, so what's up with that? | ||
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edit: okay okay seems i might be wrong here guys | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote: It does except queens burrow 1.6 times faster than drones and zerglings. Also banelings are fat zerglings, but are faster at burrowing, so what's up with that? burrow time will be the bunker build time of the future | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote: It does except queens burrow 1.6 times faster than drones and zerglings. Also banelings are fat zerglings, but are faster at burrowing, so what's up with that? When the higher-ups can kill you at a moment's notice you tend to try and do things quicker. | ||
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Cricketer12
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On July 30 2016 11:36 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: burrow time will be the bunker build time of the future I would link a bunch of relevant SotG clips but I'm too lazy to find them. | ||
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'This is my base now' | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:36 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: burrow time will be the bunker build time of the future Don't even get me started about how inconsistent the unburrow auto-cast radius is. | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:38 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Haha this queen play is pretty epic 'This is my base now' he needs to do shit like do that build a spire there, then prep for a bane bust | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:40 CruelZeratul wrote: What kind of shitty map is this? the not as hype as KCK kind | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:44 CruelZeratul wrote: Since I've never seen this map, is it as Zerg favored as it looks? I don't think it's Zerg favored, but no one actually knows how to play on it, so that's up in the air right now. | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:44 CruelZeratul wrote: Since I've never seen this map, is it as Zerg favored as it looks? Only if you don't know how to play it like uThermal. That map is almost always Terran favoured. | ||
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BretZ
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On July 30 2016 11:44 CruelZeratul wrote: Since I've never seen this map, is it as Zerg favored as it looks? not at all. I agree with Ziggaurat's sentiment | ||
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Charoisaur
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On July 30 2016 11:46 geokilla wrote: Only if you don't know how to play it like uThermal. That map is almost always Terran favoured. tell me bonsai how do you correctly play on the map? | ||
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
On July 30 2016 11:45 Shellshock wrote: Elazer unimpressed with himself that game Uthermal was going full Korean with his multiprong and it showed that Elazer wasn't too good vs it. To us Uthermal was always really behind, but Elazer knew he could have thrown that game | ||
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Biscuittzz
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On July 30 2016 11:08 Parrek wrote: Polt had one of the easiest brackets tbh. Same with Violet. The biggest issue is the foreign scene isn't quite deep enough to make really really hyped 32 man brackets. However, I think it's slowly changing as more NA players get into the spotlight and a couple sea players seem to be getting better too so there are less easy slots like Iaguz often is or PilliPilli or Bails. The first has a horrible mentality self admitted and PilliPilli and Bails are still coming into their own, but have had their moments in online events That's my point exactly, that Polt made a 'deep run' due to an incredibly easy bracket even while playing badly. I would of thought that WCS foreigner biased tournaments would offer a losers bracket to give players more games and so chances for better play etc. Was there ever any reason given as to why no tournaments this year have had double elimination formats? Cost reasons most likely? | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:52 Biscuittzz wrote: That's my point exactly, that Polt made a 'deep run' due to an incredibly easy bracket even while playing badly. I would of thought that WCS foreigner biased tournaments would offer a losers bracket to give players more games and so chances for better play etc. Was there ever any reason given as to why no tournaments this year have had double elimination formats? Cost reasons most likely? And time. They want to show all the games which isn't possible with a 16 or 32 player double elim bracket. On July 30 2016 11:54 Aocowns wrote: i actually fooled myself into thinking he would 3 rax reaper only on frozen for the rest of this series He 3raxes on Galactic Process more often then not. | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:52 Biscuittzz wrote: That's my point exactly, that Polt made a 'deep run' due to an incredibly easy bracket even while playing badly. I would of thought that WCS foreigner biased tournaments would offer a losers bracket to give players more games and so chances for better play etc. Was there ever any reason given as to why no tournaments this year have had double elimination formats? Cost reasons most likely? afaik most tournament organisers think all or nothing brackets give better entertainment than the double version | ||
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Parrek
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On July 30 2016 11:52 Biscuittzz wrote: That's my point exactly, that Polt made a 'deep run' due to an incredibly easy bracket even while playing badly. I would of thought that WCS foreigner biased tournaments would offer a losers bracket to give players more games and so chances for better play etc. Was there ever any reason given as to why no tournaments this year have had double elimination formats? Cost reasons most likely? I'd say time is a bigger reason. We already do three days 12 hours long. We couldn't do even more games | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote: And time. They want to show all the games which isn't possible with a 16 or 32 player double elim bracket. He 3raxes on Galactic Process more often then not. dont we say that about almost all the maps | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:47 Charoisaur wrote: tell me bonsai how do you correctly play on the map? As a Terran player, I'd play aggressively and go one base all in. The pathing is short so pushes are fairly strong. Marine tank pushes should do fairly well. Definitely wouldn't aim to play a long game. | ||
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I've only seen him do that unproxied on Frozen Temple and Galactic, and more rarely proxied on Apotheosis. So... half the map pool. Oh and I also saw him proxy 3rax reaper on Flame Juggler, the worst 3rax reaper map ever, and follow it up with 3 rax marauder which he couldn't afford. I don't think he would do that again. On July 30 2016 11:57 blade55555 wrote: Holy hell... This map is so good for reapers. It was better before. | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:57 blade55555 wrote: Holy hell... This map is so good for reapers. Lots of maps are. | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:57 blade55555 wrote: Holy hell... This map is so good for reapers. well, considering half the map pool looks good for reapers it might just be the reaper opening kek | ||
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the level of play is so low why didnt the zerg scout with a drone earlier | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:01 Erasme wrote: lmao the level of play is so low why didnt the zerg scout with a drone earlier Just look at the player lineup... Read Harstem's interview and I don't think he likes how Foreigners are split from Koreans. | ||
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uthermal is a player that will DESTROY one month and then get REKT the next month, and because he got rekt one month + his style people will call him cheesy, yet ignore the other results he had gotten prior. | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:01 Erasme wrote: lmao the level of play is so low why didnt the zerg scout with a drone earlier What would he see? One reaper coming out which says nothing. I think he should have gone for faster ravagers, though. They outeange reapers so it means you can actually land kills | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:00 Shellshock wrote: and he wasn't even supposed to be in this dont really like that narrative being thrown around, makes it sound as if it wasnt already clear he was better than over half the players in the tournament | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:01 Erasme wrote: lmao the level of play is so low why didnt the zerg scout with a drone earlier you mean drone scout? no-one does it, it's pretty bad | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:59 Aocowns wrote: well, considering half the map pool looks good for reapers it might just be the reaper opening kek uthermal is pretty much the only terran who still goes for reapers regularly | ||
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That reaper control was very good though, I am sure Nerchio and Violet just watched that and are formulating a solution as we speak. But first they need to see who gets the chance to face Uthermal. Ling/Bling wars is kinda fun to watch, but we all keep holding our breath for a big bane hit which happens so rarely at this level of play. If it goes back and forth with the ling/bling and no big bane hits, things might get boring after that. Usually after ling/bling it changes to ravager v ravagers, which is a game of bile shots. Bile wars is boring; at least in my opinion. | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:03 Charoisaur wrote: uthermal is pretty much the only terran who still goes for reapers regularly say that to every terran around the high master mmr | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:02 Parrek wrote: What would he see? One reaper coming out which says nothing. I think he should have gone for faster ravagers, though. They outeange reapers so it means you can actually land kills you dont need ravagers against reapers just early roaches but noone does that cuz its not meta enough or a spine but it seems people forgot how to build that between 2012 and now. | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:03 Charoisaur wrote: uthermal is pretty much the only terran who still goes for reapers regularly ByuN? | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:03 Alchemik wrote: you mean drone scout? no-one does it, it's pretty bad clearly it is who would want to scout cheeses l m a o | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:04 Erasme wrote: you dont need ravagers against reapers just early roaches but noone does that cuz its not meta enough or a spine but it seems people forgot how to build that between 2012 and now. ...that's what Elazer did this game, and what Snute tried literally two days ago | ||
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On July 30 2016 11:55 Parrek wrote: I'd say time is a bigger reason. We already do three days 12 hours long. We couldn't do even more games I'd rather have a double elimination than have every game broadcast. Think it would support the players better i.e. more high level games in an offline atmosphere. | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:01 Erasme wrote: lmao the level of play is so low why didnt the zerg scout with a drone earlier jesus yea really just barbaric, savage stuff out there. not even drone scouting in ZvT lol | ||
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United States4001 Posts
On July 30 2016 12:04 Erasme wrote: you dont need ravagers against reapers just early roaches but noone does that cuz its not meta enough or a spine but it seems people forgot how to build that between 2012 and now. Well now Reapers have grenades so they can kite Roaches forever. | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:05 Alchemik wrote: ...that's what Elazer did this game, and what Snute tried literally two days ago ? No, he went speedlings first. There is absolutely no point in getting speedlings early against terran. Just get 5roaches and voila you got the map | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:06 Erasme wrote: ? No, he went speedlings first. There is absolutely no point in getting speedlings early against terran. Just get 5roaches and voila you got the map should tell nerchio, he'd love getting a couple free wins | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:06 Erasme wrote: ? No, he went speedlings first. There is absolutely no point in getting speedlings early against terran. Just get 5roaches and voila you got the map yeah, he went speedling first, because that's what you do, because that's the best thing to do. he made the mistake of not seeing the second reaper with his overlord (I assume he didn't see it, at least) so his roach warren was late, but you don't blindly open with roaches | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:04 Erasme wrote: you dont need ravagers against reapers just early roaches but noone does that cuz its not meta enough or a spine but it seems people forgot how to build that between 2012 and now. Early roaches just get kited and mine shotted to death with Uthermal's control. Same with lings. You saw what Elazer did. What could he have done better to deal with the reapers? They always got away without dying while dealing high damage to the zerg's units. With ravagers he can outrange reapers and punish all the kiting uthermal does because he's actually getting shots off too | ||
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A few other players like beastyqt and kelazhur go reapers on Galactic Process too. | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:08 Alchemik wrote: yeah, he went speedling first, because that's what you do, because that's the best thing to do. he made the mistake of not seeing the second reaper with his overlord (I assume he didn't see it, at least) so his roach warren was late, but you don't blindly open with roaches How is it better ? Getting 4roaches cost as much if not less than 20zerglings and is bulletproof against anything the terran can throw at you that early. | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:08 Alchemik wrote: yeah, he went speedling first, because that's what you do, because that's the best thing to do. he made the mistake of not seeing the second reaper with his overlord (I assume he didn't see it, at least) so his roach warren was late, but you don't blindly open with roaches Against uThermal on Frozen Temple or Galactic Process you probably should tbh. | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:09 Parrek wrote: Early roaches just get kited and mine shotted to death with Uthermal's control. Same with lings. You saw what Elazer did. What could he have done better to deal with the reapers? They always got away without dying while dealing high damage to the zerg's units. With ravagers he can outrange reapers and punish all the kiting uthermal does because he's actually getting shots off too Ohhh thats why you get spines. I heard theyre pretty good against any kind of early agression. | ||
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well, considering he's his next opponent and won the last one... | ||
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User was warned for this post | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:11 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: "do you think nerchio is the one that stands in your way the most" well, considering he's his next opponent and won the last one... nerchio still has to play vs violet | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:11 Erasme wrote: thats why this game is dead, you guys are following blindly any pro build without any kind of reasonning. Early reaper/hellion attack ? GET A SPINE AND ROACHES idk why you started posting in SC2 threads after 4 years just to start shitposting, but it's kinda annoying. | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:09 Erasme wrote: How is it better ? Getting 4roaches cost as much if not less than 20zerglings and is bulletproof against anything the terran can throw at you that early. 4 roaches do nothing against reapers, you need to make much, much more and yeah, if you're against 3 rax reaper, that's what you're supposed to do - go roaches but you'd have to either do that blindly every game or drone scout, both being very bad ideas | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:10 Erasme wrote: Ohhh thats why you get spines. I heard theyre pretty good against any kind of early agression. Ha, spines suck vs reapers because you can drop 10 mines on them and shoot it a few times and it's dead. They don't really apply early on because there's too much space to dodge them and micro without losing a reaper. Elazer was holding fine before the reapers hit critical number. That's the real danger of reaper cheeses now. Reapers stay relevant for quite a long time with mines keeping them alive. | ||
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Germany15883 Posts
On July 30 2016 12:11 Erasme wrote: thats why this game is dead, you guys are following blindly any pro build without any kind of reasonning. Early reaper/hellion attack ? GET A SPINE AND ROACHES ah this is why the game is dead thanks for enlightening me | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:11 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: "do you think nerchio is the one that stands in your way the most" well, considering he's his next opponent and won the last one... He hasn't advanced yet. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On July 30 2016 12:11 Erasme wrote: thats why this game is dead, you guys are following blindly any pro build without any kind of reasonning. Early reaper/hellion attack ? GET A SPINE AND ROACHES saying "early reaper/hellion attack" sounds like you want to get a spine and roaches against HotS-like hellion pressure and yeah, if everyone were to do that, I could see how the game would be dead with no Zerg players On July 30 2016 12:16 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: 'lots of dutch lans going on' ehhh well I mean probably higher than average | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:13 Solar424 wrote: idk why you started posting in SC2 threads after 4 years just to start shitposting, but it's kinda annoying. I'm probably the most annoyed here. WoL had a lot of potential and when i come back i see zergs not drone scouting, not placing overlords properly and not using the one unit that is good against the early terran harass. Let me explain it simply to you. Your spine should start as soon as your expo is down, no matter what. Then you make queens and a couple of roaches. You go to the terrans base and see w/e is there. Then you react. You guys are probably right tho, it's better to lose three times in a row to early pressure than to scout and blindly make a spine | ||
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Poland7124 Posts
On July 30 2016 12:18 Erasme wrote: I'm probably the most annoyed here. WoL had a lot of potential and when i come back i see zergs not drone scouting, not placing overlords properly and not using the one unit that is good against the early terran harass. Let me explain it simply to you. Your spine should start as soon as your expo is down, no matter what. Then you make queens and a couple of roaches. You go to the terrans base and see w/e is there. Then you react. you've got your order mixed up, mate | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On July 30 2016 12:18 Erasme wrote: I'm probably the most annoyed here. WoL had a lot of potential and when i come back i see zergs not drone scouting, not placing overlords properly and not using the one unit that is good against the early terran harass. Let me explain it simply to you. Your spine should start as soon as your expo is down, no matter what. Then you make queens and a couple of roaches. You go to the terrans base and see w/e is there. Then you react. You guys are probably right tho, it's better to lose three times in a row to early pressure than to scout and blindly make a spine Sounds like you should be the one competing in WCS! | ||
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United States893 Posts
On July 30 2016 12:18 Erasme wrote: I'm probably the most annoyed here. WoL had a lot of potential and when i come back i see zergs not drone scouting, not placing overlords properly and not using the one unit that is good against the early terran harass. Let me explain it simply to you. Your spine should start as soon as your expo is down, no matter what. Then you make queens and a couple of roaches. You go to the terrans base and see w/e is there. Then you react. You guys are probably right tho, it's better to lose three times in a row to early pressure than to scout and blindly make a spine If you just came back, the game is very different now. Spines aren't very good vs reapers because of strong grenades and regenerating reapers. Roaches are the first step because of tankiness, but imo either a good ling surround or ravagers are needed to hold off reapers vs a terran with as fantastic reaper control as Uthermal. I agree that a drone scout wouldn't have been a bad idea if Elazer had watched Uthermal's series vs Snute, however, on a game by game basis, drone scouting is bad. It was more a mistake on Elazer's part to not be thinking of this as a series following a very similar patter to Snute vs Uthermal. | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:26 Phredxor wrote: Sounds like you should be the one competing in WCS! or in platinum | ||
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BretZ
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On July 30 2016 12:18 Erasme wrote: I'm probably the most annoyed here. WoL had a lot of potential and when i come back i see zergs not drone scouting, not placing overlords properly and not using the one unit that is good against the early terran harass. Let me explain it simply to you. Your spine should start as soon as your expo is down, no matter what. Then you make queens and a couple of roaches. You go to the terrans base and see w/e is there. Then you react. You guys are probably right tho, it's better to lose three times in a row to early pressure than to scout and blindly make a spine You just assume the game plays the same as WoL then try to act like some pompous shit knowing the match up in and out, just talking out of your ass. Thanks for the extra entertainment tonight | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:29 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Hmm somehow I didn't realise Violet did so well WCS rankings yeah i had no idea either, its weird edit: or well i knew i just dont get it | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:29 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Hmm somehow I didn't realise Violet did so well WCS rankings Lots of bracket luck, and the fact that there really isn't a consistent 7th or 8th player in WCS. | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:30 Aocowns wrote: yeah i had no idea either, its weird edit: or well i knew i just dont get it Yeah, we gotta remember he actually performed well at Katowice, Leipzig, and Tours, though the third was really easy bracket and he's been irrelevant since then | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:34 Cricketer12 wrote: Valdez! I like Spicy Salmon's voice | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:38 Shellshock wrote: Nerchio such a god The only god that matters in ZvZ is Fortuna. | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:38 Shellshock wrote: Nerchio such a god "Nerchwho?" - Shellshock, 2016 | ||
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it was Nerchiwho and I couldn't acknowledge him with the jorts | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:41 Biscuittzz wrote: Why did he micro his lings instead of focusing hatch? If you don't micro your lings and focus only on the hatch, you get the hatch but lose so many lings that you die to the counterattack. | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:41 Biscuittzz wrote: Why did he micro his lings instead of focusing hatch? He wasn't sure he could get it. If Nerchio's lings get a surround on his focusing the hatch, with banelings, he would probably hold even easier because the lings would melt. | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:48 Shellshock wrote: wow viOLet is a GOD At the rate you're going, there's going to be an entire pantheon by the end of the tournament. | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:48 Charoisaur wrote: wow nerchio getting outplayed Tbh I think it was really just Nerchio making 10 drones at a bad time. He never got a scout till too late. Good game for Violet, though | ||
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On July 30 2016 12:51 Alchemik wrote: what the fuck is that pool positioning I think it's the oops I meant to make a pool instead of a hatch position source: i do that quite a bit | ||
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Wow Violet´s crazy move paid off | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:00 Phredxor wrote: Lol. do you know what you are going to do for 10k? | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:01 Shellshock wrote: the path is opening for uThermal to win it all i wish...but neeb will probably slaughterhi | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:01 Cricketer12 wrote: do you know what you are going to do for 10k? Probably complain about JA beating us yet again in AK format in the PL thread. | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:02 Phredxor wrote: Probably complain about JA beating us yet again in AK format in the PL thread. I'll trade you maru for stats if that makes you feel any better. | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:02 Zalfor wrote: how can i watch this in person? im in china It's in Shanghai at the China Joy Expo. | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:03 Cricketer12 wrote: I'll trade you maru for stats if that makes you feel any better. How about we give you J-god and Leenock for him? | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:03 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: I love it, looking like the Violet of old 2012 MLG violet was pretty damn awesome. He just needs to pull out a surgeon mask. | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:04 Phredxor wrote: How about we give you J-god and Leenock for him? honestly didn't know you had jjakji...new trade: Maru and Trap for Stats and Super | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:06 Cricketer12 wrote: honestly didn't know you had jjakji...new trade: Maru and Trap for Stats and Super Super is on the Freecs yo | ||
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fuck, its getting late, my mind is fried.... | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:10 Cricketer12 wrote: slivko would still tear violet a new one I'd take slivko over any three players in the scene. | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I'd take slivko over any three players in the scene. incontrol and desrow might be able to sit on him | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:14 Cricketer12 wrote: incontrol and desrow might be able to sit on him Incontrol is also ripped as fuck | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:04 Cricketer12 wrote: 2012 MLG violet was pretty damn awesome. He just needs to pull out a surgeon mask. and bl/infestor | ||
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Yeah he was bench pressing 435lbs in that EG video. | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Valdez's on point with that analysis. Nerchio is a bit too defensive, and viOlet a bit too aggressive. Nerchio probably thinks he's the better player, so he doesn't want to lose and plays super safe, while viOlet's seeing himself as the underdog and wants to pounce on every opportunity to win a game as early as possible might be wrong, but I feel like that's what's happening | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:24 Alchemik wrote: Nerchio probably thinks he's the better player, so he doesn't want to lose and plays super safe, while viOlet's seeing himself as the underdog and wants to pounce on every opportunity to win a game as early as possible might be wrong, but I feel like that's what's happening I think you're right about Nerchio, but viOlet just plays that way normally. Nerchio playing too safe is a part of why he lost on Frozen Temple. | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I think you're right about Nerchio, but viOlet just plays that way normally. Nerchio playing too safe is a part of why he lost on Frozen Temple. well, to be fair this is the first time I see viOlet play in LotV, so I'm not completely sure what he does | ||
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like this ;; | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:33 Nakajin wrote: Hahaha, Violet is actually going to make it to Blizzcon. dark v violet prob would be closer than inno v hyun or soulkey v naniwa anyway.... | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote: And to think that viOlet got 3-0ed by JonSnow during the NA Dreamhack Montreal regional challengers. Alliser Thorne > JonSnow > viOLet > Nerchio | ||
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Camera pans to Nerchio with his everyday classic slavic look "I am dead inside" | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:37 Hexe wrote: cowar/dly play from violet lol wut? | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:37 Hexe wrote: cowardly play from violet What? | ||
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I kid, I kid. Very interesting upset and a great series by violet. Could ahve gone either way. | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:37 Hexe wrote: cowardly play from violet You tell him buddy. | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:37 Hexe wrote: cowardly play from violet Inch or a Mile bud, inch or a mile. | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:42 Nakajin wrote: Lol Violet, "just don't practice zvz it's to stupid" he ain't wrong | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:38 Sif_ wrote: i guess uthermal is really happy right now =P that's what I'm thinking | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:46 Cricketer12 wrote: supernova is a fucking callback fun player. He TY'd TY. | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:02 Phredxor wrote: Probably complain about JA beating us yet again in AK format in the PL thread. was looking at lickypiddy, KT won the first time the teams faced in 2016 back in their round 1 match, since then Jin Air has won every match (round 1 playoffs, round 2 robin + playoff, round 3 robin) | ||
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absolutely, I have fond memories of his OSL 2014 run | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:53 Parrek wrote: I bet violet will wreck Uthermal by just playing safe game one when Uthermal inevitably cheeses. If Uthermal actually mixes things up in the series, he will have gained my respect because I always felt like he is a bit of a one trick pony at times he actually played greedy, safe and chessy this tournament. The mix has been good. | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:58 Noonius wrote: when I'm allowed to almost religiously hum USA USA? I mean violet just won | ||
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I just woke up | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:57 Cricketer12 wrote: absolutely, I have fond memories of his OSL 2014 run 2013 | ||
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On July 30 2016 13:57 imre wrote: he actually played greedy, safe and chessy this tournament. The mix has been good. 3 3rax reaper, 1 proxy 4 rax marine, 2 pre-hive timings, and getting Dasan-ed once. This mix seems a bit too cheddary for my taste. | ||
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same thing. It's all hots. It's all past DRG's glory days | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:04 ZigguratOfUr wrote: 3 3rax reaper, 1 proxy 4 rax marine, 2 pre-hive timings, and getting Dasan-ed once. This mix seems a bit too cheddary for my taste. But you have a Protoss flair! :O | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:05 Shellshock wrote: Showtime gonna win 3-0. prepare for disappointment Such a hater. | ||
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No no I meant that it was too cheddar focused, and lacked some mozzarella or gouda. I like my cheeses varied. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:06 Deathstar wrote: ugh i hope this series ends fast mined out map pvps decided by 1 disruptor shot inc | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:06 Deathstar wrote: ugh i hope this series ends fast almost sounds like you don't like adepts... | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:04 ZigguratOfUr wrote: 3 3rax reaper, 1 proxy 4 rax marine, 2 pre-hive timings, and getting Dasan-ed once. This mix seems a bit too cheddary for my taste. 3 rax reaper is a macro build in uthermals hands. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote: No no I meant that it was too cheddar focused, and lacked some mozzarella or gouda. I like my cheeses varied. Ah of course. You had me worried for a second there | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:05 Shellshock wrote: Showtime gonna win 3-0. prepare for disappointment I don't care. uThermal will make terran great again | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:08 Noonius wrote: I don't care. uThermal will make terran great again The real terrans play tomorrow | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:08 Noonius wrote: I don't care. uThermal will make terran great again this is his tournament. the stars have aligned | ||
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uThermal > TY and Maru combined | ||
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He must have meant J-god or Cure. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Neeb's Classic. The comparison is too obvious. but people recognize neeb is good | ||
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Nah i meant Last and Sea | ||
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Cure > uThermal > TY and Maru combined > jjakji | ||
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oh yea uThermal aint got shit on them, you should have been more specific | ||
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FIFY that other terran is not worthy of being mentioned in the same breath with these bastions of terran excellence | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:13 Noonius wrote: FIFY that other terran is not worthy of being mentioned in the same breath with these bastions of terran excellence fixed your good intention based fixing | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:12 Shellshock wrote: wow vetoing Dasan? hates the fans I'm kinda surprised that some players don't just heavily practice the maverick maps like Dasan or KCK to get a huge edge on that map or force your opponents to veto it. Especially since best of 5s are so common in LotV. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:05 Cricketer12 wrote: same thing. It's all hots. It's all past DRG's glory days best game DRG ever played was vs INNO in HotS. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:15 stuchiu wrote: best game DRG ever played was vs INNO in HotS. ironically arguably the most impressive game in that series was the one he lost... | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:13 Cricketer12 wrote: oh yea uThermal aint got shit on them, you should have been more specific If only Flash and uThermal player against each other. Then we could proclaim uThermal best Terran in BW too. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:17 Cricketer12 wrote: ironically arguably the most impressive game in that series was the one he lost... Whirlwind, what a game! Both players displayed the highest skill. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:18 Phredxor wrote: If only NaDa and uThermal player against each other. Then we could proclaim uThermal best Terran in BW too. FTFY | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:18 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: Whirlwind, what a game! Both players displayed the highest skill. I remember missing the other two games cause I had to go to class but damn that was an excellent game | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:05 Shellshock wrote: Showtime gonna win 3-0. prepare for disappointment you were saying??! | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:18 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: Whirlwind, what a game! Both players displayed the highest skill. tvz before 8 armor ultras ruined the matchup ah wait, 8 armor ultras are really fun to watch i forgot. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:21 Sif_ wrote: showtime didnt look good yesterday against arguably a lower 'level' player... if he plays like game1 neeb will cruise through Both looked a bit sloppy in their last series. Still, Showtime got that "Oh crap he's good!" face. Hopefully Neeb keeps it up. I want a Neeb victory! USA USA | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:24 Parrek wrote: Both looked a bit sloppy in their last series. Still, Showtime got that "Oh crap he's good!" face. Hopefully Neeb keeps it up. I want a Neeb victory! USA USA when was the last time the best NA player wasn't canadian? | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:26 Cricketer12 wrote: when was the last time the best NA player wasn't canadian? idra. | ||
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you mean pre TL HuK idra right? | ||
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yea | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:27 Noonius wrote: I'm gonna go and get some pizza leftovers from yesterday... be jelly hah, im like 30 minutes ahead of you | ||
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yea that was so long ago, idra's gg v mma was a featured video on youtube's front page | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:26 Cricketer12 wrote: when was the last time the best NA player wasn't canadian? Stephano | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:33 Phredxor wrote: So we can confirm USA > EU now? Neeb > EU | ||
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Yeah that's what I said. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:33 Topin wrote: had to go out after maruthermal vs elazer, what did i miss? violet rekt nerchio, neeb beating showtime to a pulp | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:33 Sif_ wrote: Neeb completely STOMPING the fight and the casters going like "i dont even know whos gonna win" lol don't act like you saw the entire time who was winning | ||
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Polt | ||
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VioLet > Nerchio so it is USA > EU | ||
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aLive | ||
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Pigbaby. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:33 Topin wrote: had to go out after maruthermal vs elazer, what did i miss? the polish posters all rage quit | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:33 Sif_ wrote: Neeb completely STOMPING the fight and the casters going like "i dont even know whos gonna win" lol like you saw who was winning before it was very clear? yea, man, i sort of doubt it. | ||
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good point, USA hype | ||
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You are right | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I'm really shocked Neeb let his base get sacked so easily. He should have fought right there, no? I don't think you want to engage before the attack upgrade finishes. He should've been posturing closer to make Showtime more reluctant to attack the base. Neeb's hidden expo positioning was pretty sweet. I think that's the type of hidden expo he doesn't totally mind getting scouted (unlike most hidden expos which are forfeit once scouting), since he can keep applying pressure on the opponent's third from there. It's like how he takes the gold as fourth on galactic process. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:33 Charoisaur wrote: make a Dark shrine - don't harass with them. wp Neeb scouted it, how would Showtime know Neeb didn't react | ||
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HyuN | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:34 Charoisaur wrote: don't act like you saw the entire time who was winning you didn't? showtime lost a bunch of units before the fight started, was down an upgrade, worse positioning (his units to the southeast took a lot of time to join the fight) and some of his army was force fielded and the archons werent breaking it. I'm not claiming to be an expert and i don't even play P or watch that many PvP but this fight was extremely one-sided | ||
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So much great NA talent. It's hard to keep up sometimes. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:36 GoloSC2 wrote: Neeb scouted it, how would Showtime know Neeb didn't react He double checks with phoenix to see if he cannoned up | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:37 Phredxor wrote: So much great NA talent. It's hard to keep up sometimes. well EU had San Grubby and Duckdeok so it's not like we have everything | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:37 FataLe wrote: He double checks with phoenix to see if he cannoned up There could still be Obeservers in every base | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:37 Phredxor wrote: So much great NA talent. It's hard to keep up sometimes. Jaedong Nah he never was the best | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:38 GoloSC2 wrote: There could still be Obeservers in every base Sending a few DTs in instead of a few adepts is cheap enough. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:36 GoloSC2 wrote: Neeb scouted it, how would Showtime know Neeb didn't react he only barely saw it so I don't think showtime assumed neeb was prepared. My guess is that the hidden base tricked him into thinking neeb is allin what made him use all his units to defend. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:38 GoloSC2 wrote: There could still be Obeservers in every base No, no there couldn't. Robo time is precious in PvP and 3 obs that early is a sure fire way to fall immediately behind. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:47 Phredxor wrote: Showtimes only anti air is pylons? yea but he might make a couple of stalkers soon | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:47 Phredxor wrote: Showtimes only anti air is pylons? lucky for him Neeb gifts him the mamma core and possibly the game | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:47 chipmonklord17 wrote: lucky for him Neeb gifts him the mamma core and possibly the game Neeb's still completely fine if he doesn't mess this up. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:49 Phredxor wrote: Well Neeb loses I guess. at least we'd have a series then | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:50 Cricketer12 wrote: the best basetrade are the ones that leave them expanding in wonky positions and moving forward from there, this game makes me happy yeah, basetrades into macro games are the best | ||
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stuchiu
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ZigguratOfUr
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On July 30 2016 14:50 Cricketer12 wrote: the best basetrade are the ones that leave them expanding in wonky positions and moving forward from there, this game makes me happy Yeah. The reactions of both players were very reasonable too, which doesn't always happen. | ||
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Cricketer12
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On July 30 2016 14:54 chipmonklord17 wrote: if you pick up an adept that is shading and the shade finishes while the phoenix is still lifting it what happens? i feel like the shade gets cancelled when the adept is picked up no? | ||
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chipmonklord17
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On July 30 2016 14:56 Cricketer12 wrote: i feel like the shade gets cancelled when the adept is picked up no? I don't play Protoss I have no idea | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 30 2016 14:56 Cricketer12 wrote: i feel like the shade gets cancelled when the adept is picked up no? Me too, but I'm not sure. I recall Guardian Shield is not interrupted by being lifted. | ||
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On July 30 2016 14:57 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Me too, but I'm not sure. I recall Guardian Shield is not interrupted by being lifted. The adept teleports and gets out of the lift. The shade isn't interrupted by the lift. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 30 2016 14:59 Cricketer12 wrote: this is easily my favorite game of the tournament, holy shit, pashun reignited idk this is pretty good but there was still a game where it was a cannon rush into 3 stargate 13 oracles and a gaping chinese mouth who couldnt believe that shit | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On July 30 2016 15:01 Durnuu wrote: The adept teleports and gets out of the lift. The shade isn't interrupted by the lift. That is so fucking stupid, but thank you | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 30 2016 15:02 Shellshock wrote: idk this is pretty good but there was still a game where it was a cannon rush into 3 stargate 13 oracles and a gaping chinese mouth who couldnt believe that shit that is the understood best game of the tournament because Has. I'm just trying to give other people a chance. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On July 30 2016 15:02 chipmonklord17 wrote: That is so fucking stupid, but thank you The only thing that's stupid is that lifted banelings that explode deal damage to the ground units below, but not the air units. | ||
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On July 30 2016 15:07 Shellshock wrote: lol robo bay. just need to get carriers and a mothership out to make this game complete "can we have a no rush 20" - showtime | ||
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On July 30 2016 15:09 Cricketer12 wrote: there's no way this doesn't go neeb's way.... Neeb had this won quite some time ago. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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GJ GJ GJ NEEB | ||
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fezvez
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The joke ends | ||
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WHERE ARE YOUR GODS NOW EU? | ||
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Deathstar
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On July 30 2016 15:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Good guy Showtime drawing things out so that violet gets the time to watch uThermal VODs so that he'll have a good idea about how he'll get cheese out. this is the true reason this series lasted over an hour | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On July 30 2016 15:12 vik7 wrote: GREAT GAME neeb! another 3-0 and the perfect tournament run!!! 4-0 I'd guess? | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4492 Posts
NA > EU The god has spoken! | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
no, 3-0 into 0-4 #fullforeigner = perfect tournament run | ||
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0/4 would be fun | ||
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Phredxor
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On July 30 2016 15:17 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: guys i think that may have been product placement what do you think I think he was just giving us some good friendly advice. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 30 2016 15:17 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: guys i think that may have been product placement what do you think more like dank capitalism | ||
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Shellshock
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On July 30 2016 15:20 Deathstar wrote: winner of uthermal vs violet will win the tournament neeb going to take the mantle of fan favorite choker | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 30 2016 15:11 Shellshock wrote: and then uThermal 4-0s neeb in the final get out, Artosis | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On July 30 2016 15:23 RichardNPL wrote: ARE the finals being played today? No. Tomorrow. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/liquibet2/ranking.php I only speak the truth. except that one time i said showtime would win | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4492 Posts
On July 30 2016 15:24 Shellshock wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/liquibet2/ranking.php I only speak the truth. except that one time i said showtime would win Nice Mod edit. Can you boost me to top 3 too  | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 30 2016 15:24 Shellshock wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/liquibet2/ranking.php I only speak the truth. except that one time i said showtime would win somehow I shall find a way to blame this on TL bias | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8988 Posts
On July 30 2016 15:22 FataLe wrote: Like, the decision to go double stargate was a stroke of genius. He was really far behind. Such a dense and complex series, as the desk said, you could talk about the series for a long, long time. I wonder if void ray would have been another a good option, jumping on the 2-3 stalker that were there and then being able to snipe pylon. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
Post 83000 more times and you can be that high too | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 30 2016 15:24 Shellshock wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/liquibet2/ranking.php I only speak the truth. except that one time i said showtime would win hmm I'm not as far off as I thought, at 47... | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On July 30 2016 15:24 Shellshock wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/liquibet2/ranking.php I only speak the truth. except that one time i said showtime would win I will still catch you!!! | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 30 2016 15:25 Nakajin wrote: I wonder if void ray would have been another a good option, jumping on the 2-3 stalker that were there and then being able to snipe pylon. I don't think so. They're more expensive and there were still photon overcharges, which you can't easily avoid with void rays. Oracles could have been good though. | ||
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Kovzirg
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On July 30 2016 15:25 Nakajin wrote: I wonder if void ray would have been another a good option, jumping on the 2-3 stalker that were there and then being able to snipe pylon. Even though in general I think phoenixes are better than void rays in this situation I think they would've probably done a lot of work considering how minimal the anti-air was. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On July 30 2016 15:26 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Post 83000 more times and you can be that high too more like have R1CH run a script | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
I likely went full NA by picking KT | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
I always pick KT against Jinair, lol. This time we get the points though! If we add liquibets with liquibets2 i am in front of you | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4492 Posts
On July 30 2016 15:25 Nakajin wrote: I wonder if void ray would have been another a good option, jumping on the 2-3 stalker that were there and then being able to snipe pylon. Ya, it's such a precarious position. Do you go Void and lose mobility? Do you go Oracle and get a glass cannon? Pro's and cons at every turn once a game gets to that point, very interesting to think about though haha | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
it's only 4 points, so you could still pull yourself back up if you are wrong | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 30 2016 15:30 The_Red_Viper wrote: I always pick KT against Jinair, lol. This time we get the points though! If we add liquibets with liquibets2 i am in front of you I used to pick BW liquibets based on who actually had a picture but now everyone has one | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
So you're saying you made the right choice? NA is pretty clearly best region. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 30 2016 15:30 Shellshock wrote: I used to pick BW liquibets based on who actually had a picture but now everyone has one Same. It worked really well too. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On July 30 2016 15:30 Shellshock wrote: I used to pick BW liquibets based on who actually had a picture but now everyone has one Hehe whatever strategy works... | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On July 30 2016 15:39 Parrek wrote: I think if he faces Uthermal he needs to take the reigns in the series because Uthermal tilts as hard as Drogo at times, especially when he starts losing a lot No one tilts as hard as Drogo does. That game against MaSa on New Gettysburg... | ||
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On July 30 2016 15:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote: No one tilts as hard as Drogo does. That game against MaSa on New Gettysburg... Watch the games vs Polt from Katowice I think. Uthermal can tilt hard | ||
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On July 30 2016 15:42 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: When did Funka become a regular caster? O'Gaming has been growing in power | ||
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Noonius
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On July 30 2016 15:42 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: When did Funka become a regular caster? when he realized caster money > observer money | ||
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MiniFotToss
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On July 30 2016 15:40 Noonius wrote: uThermal looks like a good terran version of Demu you mean a better version of demu? cuz Demu is also a terran | ||
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I'm aware of that | ||
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On July 30 2016 15:56 Shellshock wrote: that Chinese guy has never seen so many ultras die. couldnt believe it ok, I gotta admit. I chuckled at that | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
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and that's what ive been funka, need some libbys. | ||
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On July 30 2016 16:00 Shellshock wrote: viOLet needs to work on his fungal aim. so many misses where uThermal wasn't really even dodging it's hard to aim when your palms are sweaty | ||
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On July 30 2016 16:01 Deathstar wrote: it's hard to aim when your palms are sweaty should have asked Gumiho to borrow one of his sweat towels before he came | ||
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On July 30 2016 16:00 Shellshock wrote: viOLet needs to work on his fungal aim. so many misses where uThermal wasn't really even dodging That's the only reason his first ultra attack didn't win him the game. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On July 30 2016 16:04 Phredxor wrote: Alright finished watching my sport. Come back to see uThermal with reapers. Shocking stuff. viOlet's smarter than Snute and Elazer. Knows to drone scout on Galactic Process and go for a roach warren. | ||
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On July 30 2016 16:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote: viOlet's smarter than Snute and Elazer. Knows to drone scout on Galactic Process and go for a roach warren. USA just has all the answers. | ||
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Parrek
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On July 30 2016 16:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote: viOlet's smarter than Snute and Elazer. Knows to drone scout on Galactic Process and go for a roach warren. Everyone else did too, but not one got ravagers to kill reapers so they got out controlled | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:09 RaFox17 wrote: Without mutas or 5-6 queens that ledge between 3rd and main is such terran heaven. Edit: as if you usually see mutas in ZvT | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On July 30 2016 16:10 Parrek wrote: Everyone else did too, but not one got ravagers to kill reapers so they got out controlled Their Roach Warrens were much much later. | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
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violet got "literally" cucked that game. | ||
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Byul and Curious is bringing it back! | ||
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On July 30 2016 16:26 ZigguratOfUr wrote: viOlet's getting slaughtered. He spotted the first banshee with his overlord, but didn't react. He wasn't on point with building a spore at his third. His push across the map with the roach/ravager reeked of desperation, and he doesn't baby-sit his queens properly. That and he isnt playing mass queen style, which seems to be the best answer against anything T can throw at Z | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:27 Charoisaur wrote: may we get 2 consecutive tournaments with a foreign terran in the finals? Queen patch into the best time ever for foreign terrans!?!!?!? Patchterrans? | ||
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PepsiMaxxxx
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It's also the most boring play style we ever had. | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
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On July 30 2016 16:28 gophario wrote: Foreign terrans winning doesnt compute in my brain don't names like drewbie resonate in your ears? :^) | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:28 Sif_ wrote: That and he isnt playing mass queen style, which seems to be the best answer against anything T can throw at Z Seems like the only way to deal with drops as air dominance is on terrans side. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:28 Sif_ wrote: That and he isnt playing mass queen style, which seems to be the best answer against anything T can throw at Z Especially against this style on this map queens would have been perfect. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I'm really glad uThermal didn't go for 3 rax reaper on Apotheosis. The reason why that build is so great on Frozen Temple and Galactic Process is that with great control, even if the Zerg player reacts perfectly you're at worse even when going into the mid-game. On Apotheosis you have to proxy the raxes and if you fail you're really far behind. TaeJa was far behind after his 3 rax reaper opening vs ragnarok on frozen temple | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:28 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: Just play something else viOLet, Roach/Ravager/Queen is for defensive players. It's also the most boring play style we ever had. It's only boring at the roach ravager stage but once you get ultras the style gets really exciting because ultras make for incredibly fun games. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:29 Charoisaur wrote: TaeJa was far behind after his 3 rax reaper opening vs ragnarok on frozen temple I didn't see that game, so I can't comment about it. | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:31 Charoisaur wrote: It's only boring at the roach ravager stage but once you get ultras the style gets really exciting because ultras are so fun units. The early part is fun for terrans and the later one for zerg´s. All is well. (nah, TvZ is a shitty matchup at the moment) | ||
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Yiome
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Although tbf Chinajoy can be super loud from what I heard | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On July 30 2016 16:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I didn't see that game, so I can't comment about it. Just took a look at it. Taeja messed up his micro and got surrounded by the lings and lost five reapers. Fairly self-explanatory. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Just took a look at it. Taeja messed up his micro and got surrounded by the lings and lost five reapers. Fairly self-explanatory. ah ok. didn't remember it that well. | ||
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PepsiMaxxxx
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That was such a 2012 viOLet game. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:42 rednusa wrote: NESTEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! DDDDRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:42 FataLe wrote: uThermal be like. okok, enough entertaining the fans. back to 3 rax reaper, On King Sejong Station? I wouldn't recommend it. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote: On King Sejong Station? I wouldn't recommend it. why not? | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
3rax reaper is so map dependent. It ranges from invincible on Central Protocol for example, to useless on Flame Juggler. KSS would probably be near the middle, but slightly closer to useless imo especially against an opponent that expects it. Also KSS is a good map for normal terran strats. | ||
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Sif_
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RaFox17
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On July 30 2016 16:56 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: One bad engagement in the beginning makes a player lose the game. Z does not really have any comeback mechanics like medivacs against terran. It was over after the first attack. | ||
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New Zealand4492 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:58 RaFox17 wrote: Z does not really have any comeback mechanics like medivacs against terran. It was over after the first attack. banes and infestor are comeback mechanics, but are harder to make work. But they still are. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:58 RaFox17 wrote: Z does not really have any comeback mechanics like medivacs against terran. It was over after the first attack. Also that engagement was really bad. Losing most of your queens cuts into both the production and future defence so much. | ||
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Germany15883 Posts
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:59 FataLe wrote: banes and infestor are comeback mechanics, but are harder to make work. But they still are. Slow banes are useless and even speed banes don´t do it if you are far behind. Infestors alone do shit and if you are behind in army supply you are praying for a mistake from terran. (eg a-moving into a choke) | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:58 RaFox17 wrote: Z does not really have any comeback mechanics like medivacs against terran. It was over after the first attack. ling counter attacks are the best comeback mechanic in the game. Life won so many lost games where he came back with ling runbys. | ||
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coolprogrammingstuff
906 Posts
HI THERMY | ||
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New Zealand4492 Posts
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
On July 30 2016 17:03 Charoisaur wrote: ling counter attacks are the best comeback mechanic in the game. Life won so many lost games where he came back with ling runbys. THIS. And terran doesnt have static defense, you need to leave army supply behind, weaking your push | ||
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CynicalDeath
Italy3286 Posts
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
On July 30 2016 16:59 FataLe wrote: banes and infestor are comeback mechanics, but are harder to make work. But they still are. Also, don't forget much easier access to drops that can allow bane and ling drops and counterattacks | ||
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
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FataLe
New Zealand4492 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On July 30 2016 17:05 FataLe wrote: Show yourself, Team Liquid guy On July 30 2016 15:47 Kovzirg wrote: He literally could've insta-won the game right there. Kovzirg saving uThermal. | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On July 30 2016 17:03 Charoisaur wrote: ling counter attacks are the best comeback mechanic in the game. Life won so many lost games where he came back with ling runbys. Better than marine/marauder drops? Life was also a once in a lifetime kinda player and no one else was able to do the same. | ||
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
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FataLe
New Zealand4492 Posts
On July 30 2016 17:02 RaFox17 wrote: Slow banes are useless and even speed banes don´t do it if you are far behind. Infestors alone do shit and if you are behind in army supply you are praying for a mistake from terran. (eg a-moving into a choke) dude, you're reaching. I even gave you the (they're harder to make work) talk but even then you're not pleased. They are comeback units. Burrow, Speed, non. If a mistake or flank or the innumerable permutations and variations of an engagement can go, usually those units are key. Ofc they're better when your opponent makes a mistake, that's sort of how every unit works. | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On July 30 2016 17:05 Sif_ wrote: THIS. And terran doesnt have static defense, you need to leave army supply behind, weaking your push Terran douple drop walks into 2-3 spines. Spines die. Don´t act like Z can defend terran drops without units. (P maybe) | ||
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Elentos
55465 Posts
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On July 30 2016 17:09 MLuneth wrote: I swear to god that the best part of the event is the chinese reactions Yeah, great pictures!! | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
On July 30 2016 17:10 RaFox17 wrote: Terran douple drop walks into 2-3 spines. Spines die. Don´t act like Z can defend terran drops without units. (P maybe) double drop in a comeback scenario means the Z can easily defend if he's sitting at his bases or can easily overrun if on the offensive also, 2-3 spines plus queen/spore can buy a lot of time for the defense | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On July 30 2016 17:12 BaneRiders wrote: First final this year without any zerg? Zest vs TY | ||
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Elentos
55465 Posts
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coolprogrammingstuff
906 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On July 30 2016 17:15 Elentos wrote: Oh great IEM finals are at an even more unwatchable time than the Proleague finals for EU Oceania master race. | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
Alright, but outside Korea I think there was always one zerg in the premier finals so far. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4492 Posts
OCN > NA > KR > EU | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On July 30 2016 17:28 BaneRiders wrote: Alright, but outside Korea I think there was always one zerg in the premier finals so far. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On July 30 2016 17:15 Elentos wrote: Oh great IEM finals are at an even more unwatchable time than the Proleague finals for EU When is it CET? 03:00? | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
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Penev
28463 Posts
Foreign Terran FTW!! | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
i'm quite surprised by the result | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12051 Posts
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Penev
28463 Posts
Foreign Terran for the Win It makes complete sense duh | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
The guy wasn't even supposed to be here in the first place, what a run ! By the way so far both finalists avoided their opponent's race, which is probably their worst mu in both cases (uThermal is a mine salt about TvP and let's assume Neeb didn't lie too much when he said he played his normal level vs Mlord). That should be pretty interesting and nerves will play a huge role in this confrontation. A big edge to Neeb on paper of course, but I'm curious to see how it shapes out, especially if uThermal can take a 1-0 or 2-1 lead. | ||
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Penev
28463 Posts
9:00 CST is 4:00 CEST for the IEM finals and Proleague finals (broadcast) is at 6:00 :/ | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On July 30 2016 18:35 Penev wrote: 9:00 CST is 4:00 CEST for the IEM finals and Proleague finals (broadcast) is at 6:00 :/ Jeez, may the best early bird watch... I wonder if I can find a reply link without finding out who won first. | ||
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
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Elentos
55465 Posts
On July 30 2016 18:35 Penev wrote: 9:00 CST is 4:00 CEST for the IEM finals and Proleague finals (broadcast) is at 6:00 :/ Ugh Wait didn't the schedule show 3 hours between IEM finals and Proleague finals? | ||
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Penev
28463 Posts
On July 30 2016 18:56 Elentos wrote: Ugh Wait didn't the schedule show 3 hours between IEM finals and Proleague finals? CST stands for Central Standard Time. CEST is known as Central European Summer Time. CEST is 7 hours ahead of CST. | ||
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Penev
28463 Posts
On July 30 2016 19:00 Penev wrote: CST stands for Central Standard Time. CEST is known as Central European Summer Time. CEST is 7 hours ahead of CST. Oh you filthy edit ninja you!! Edit: While I can't even click the right button! | ||
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Elentos
55465 Posts
Slow LP says IEM finals start at 3:15 CEST | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
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Elentos
55465 Posts
On July 30 2016 19:04 Nerchio wrote: ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzvZ, anyone does coaching? :D Didn't you use to be the king of ZvZ? What changed? | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On July 30 2016 19:05 Elentos wrote: Didn't you use to be the king of ZvZ? What changed? Legacy of the void, ask anyone except Bly if they like ZvZ it's impossible to play solid there, just throw random roach + X attacks | ||
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Penev
28463 Posts
I got 9:00 CST from the IEM site: The final matches from Shanghai Don’t miss out the final day of Intel Extreme Masters at ChinaJoy, closing out the competition with the grand final, before the KeSPA Proleague Round 3 Final will take over the stage. Jin Air Green Wings and KT Rolster will face off for the very first matches being played outside of Korea. With players such as HyuN, Maru, sOs, Zest, jjakji or TY on their rosters, we can look forward to even more thrilling games coming our way. Join us from 9:00 CST! The matches of tomorrow: The Grand Final: Neeb vs. uThermal KeSPA Proleague: Jin Air Green Wings vs. KT Rolster A 45min preshow perhaps? Anyway, unwatchable for me, maybe I'll make the Proleague finals | ||
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Elentos
55465 Posts
On July 30 2016 19:08 Penev wrote: I got 9:00 CST from the IEM site: A 45min preshow perhaps? Anyway, unwatchable for me, maybe I'll make the Proleague finals Wow they advertise HyuN and jjakji, incredible. But yeah the times are too fucked up for me also. Probably only catching VODs for Proleague especially since the match isn't that important. | ||
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Penev
28463 Posts
On July 30 2016 19:12 Elentos wrote: Wow they advertise HyuN and jjakji, incredible. But yeah the times are too fucked up for me also. Probably only catching VODs for Proleague especially since the match isn't that important. It has you KT buddies in it tho I voted KT btw, Jin Air has to crash sometime | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On July 30 2016 19:16 Penev wrote: It has you KT buddies in it tho I voted KT btw, Jin Air has to crash sometime That's the spirit! | ||
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
On July 30 2016 18:55 sabas123 wrote: Jezus, 4am in the morning is such a crazy time TT And here I am in NA, getting up at 2 a.m. every morning for Proleague/SSL/GSL usually. :p | ||
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Elentos
55465 Posts
On July 30 2016 19:16 Penev wrote: It has you KT buddies in it tho I voted KT btw, Jin Air has to crash sometime It has KT in it, but this is basically the only match of the year where I don't care if they lose because it's not important. They have enough points to be ahead of SKT no matter what. KT and Jin Air won't play another all-kill match after this one for the rest of the year, so being the winner doesn't really have implications for the playoffs. Winning is basically stroking the ego for both teams tomorrow, so if I don't get up in time to watch it live, meh. But I'd gladly watch VODs especially if KT won. That early on a Sunday is just pretty shitty. | ||
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cw
26 Posts
On July 30 2016 19:08 Nerchio wrote: Legacy of the void, ask anyone except Bly if they like ZvZ it's impossible to play solid there, just throw random roach + X attacksi just got back into sc2 but i have been watching you play to learn zerg thanks alot | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15883 Posts
On July 30 2016 19:04 Nerchio wrote: ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzvZ, anyone does coaching? :D I can coach you for 100$ | ||
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lastride
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Sick upset by Violet as well. Can't believe a EU Zerg lost to a Korean Zerg, wow. Good on uThermal as well for keeping foreign Terrans alive. | ||
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Topin
Peru10045 Posts
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VHbb
689 Posts
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Poopi
France12762 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 31 2016 02:04 VHbb wrote: Are there VODs of the semifinals ? have fun | ||
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VHbb
689 Posts
thanks! so I guess I'll have to wait till tomorrow.. | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13969 Posts
On July 31 2016 09:54 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches? Neeb v Showtime g3. | ||
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