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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Xo97b.png) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/3222.jpg) TY vs Impact
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sOs vs Super
+ Show Spoiler [Results!] +
+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [TY vs Impact] +Poll: Recommend TY vs Impact game 1?Good game. (5) 50% If you have time. (3) 30% No. (1) 10% One of the best games this season. (1) 10% Great game. (0) 0% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend TY vs Impact game 1? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
Poll: Recommend TY vs Impact game 2?Good game. (7) 58% If you have time. (3) 25% No. (1) 8% One of the best games this season. (1) 8% Great game. (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend TY vs Impact game 2? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
Poll: Recommend TY vs Impact game 3?No. (9) 69% If you have time. (2) 15% Good game. (1) 8% One of the best games this season. (1) 8% Great game. (0) 0% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend TY vs Impact game 3? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
+ Show Spoiler [sOs vs Super] +Poll: Recommend sOs vs Super game 1?If you have time. (5) 45% No. (2) 18% Good game. (2) 18% One of the best games this season. (2) 18% Great game. (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Super game 1? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
Poll: Recommend sOs vs Super game 2?Good game. (4) 57% If you have time. (2) 29% One of the best games this season. (1) 14% No. (0) 0% Great game. (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Super game 2? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
Poll: Recommend sOs vs Super game 3?One of the best games this season. (2) 33% No. (1) 17% If you have time. (1) 17% Good game. (1) 17% Great game. (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Super game 3? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
+ Show Spoiler [Winners Match] +Poll: Recommend winners' match game 1?Good game. (6) 55% Great game. (2) 18% No. (1) 9% If you have time. (1) 9% One of the best games this season. (1) 9% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend winners' match game 1? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
Poll: Recommend winners' match game 2?No. (6) 43% Great game. (4) 29% Good game. (2) 14% If you have time. (1) 7% One of the best games this season. (1) 7% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend winners' match game 2? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
Poll: Recommend winners' match game 3?No. (13) 76% If you have time. (2) 12% Good game. (1) 6% One of the best games this season. (1) 6% Great game. (0) 0% 17 total votes Your vote: Recommend winners' match game 3? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
+ Show Spoiler [Losers Match] +Poll: Recommend losers' match game 1?If you have time. (3) 75% No. (1) 25% Good game. (0) 0% Great game. (0) 0% One of the best games this season. (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend losers' match game 1? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
Poll: Recommend losers' match game 2?If you have time. (3) 100% No. (0) 0% Good game. (0) 0% Great game. (0) 0% One of the best games this season. (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend losers' match game 2? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
Poll: Recommend losers' match game 3?If you have time. (2) 100% No. (0) 0% Good game. (0) 0% Great game. (0) 0% One of the best games this season. (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend losers' match game 3? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
+ Show Spoiler [Final Match] +Poll: Recommend final match game 1?One of the best games this season. (3) 75% Good game. (1) 25% No. (0) 0% If you have time. (0) 0% Great game. (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend final match game 1? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
Poll: Recommend final match game 2?If you have time. (3) 43% No. (1) 14% Good game. (1) 14% Great game. (1) 14% One of the best games this season. (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend final match game 2? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
Poll: Recommend final match game 3?Good game. (4) 50% One of the best games this season. (2) 25% No. (1) 13% If you have time. (1) 13% Great game. (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend final match game 3? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
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ty so baller he cant be on camera during his interview and needs to talk through a phone
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What TY really said is that i really don´t want terran to be nerfed so please do well
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On July 20 2016 18:36 RaFox17 wrote:What TY really said is that i really don´t want terran to be nerfed so please do well  Nah the real message was that he hates Protoss and doesn't want more of them to advance.
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Impact hits with an early bane bust x2.
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On July 20 2016 18:38 RaFox17 wrote: Impact hits with an early bane bust x2. Spawns Frost cross, tries baneling bust, forgets half his units.
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Classic played Losira on Judgement.
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looks like 1-0 for Impact
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On July 20 2016 18:41 Ej_ wrote: looks like 1-0 for Impact I wouldn't trust SKT Zergs with cross spawns on Frost.
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I wanna see TY and Super kick some ass!
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On July 20 2016 18:41 Elentos wrote:I wouldn't trust SKT Zergs with cross spawns on Frost. I wouldn't trust any zerg vs TY Especially Impact
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Didn't know Sarah did that...to youtube
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damn, I need that "make workers...make workers...make workers" CD
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I would put notes about proxy locations certain opponents use on it.
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Hellion/banshee coming back in force is so funky
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On July 20 2016 18:45 Elentos wrote: Hellion/banshee coming back in force is so funky What is dead may never die.
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did TY actually intentionally target the lair with the banshees?
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That got more worker kills than I expected.
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On July 20 2016 18:46 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 18:45 Elentos wrote: Hellion/banshee coming back in force is so funky What is dead may never die. Soon enough Zergs will just go lair before evos again to nydus the fuck out of Terrans.
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I like the ol with the queen hitsquad
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30 kills between the tanks. Ouch.
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Banshees are the very reason I always opened 2 hatch muta in HotS when I was playing Zerg :DD
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God I do love TY. Excellent harass as always.
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Impact is getting rekt worse than I thought he would so far
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On July 20 2016 18:48 GumBa wrote: I like the ol with the queen hitsquad yeah it's very cute and useful
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he just missed like half of the biles he threw what the fuck
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God damn. Lost 35 scvs. Still on 45.
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getting the lair is so nice for TY
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and he let the 4th base finish when he had had lings and roaches there
this is awful
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Impact would be actually really ahead now if he had cancelled the 4th CC
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mass ravagers is actually holding quite well. If TY hadn't a 4th Impact would indeed be in an ok spot (though upgrades...)
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Poll: Recommend TY vs Impact game 2?Good game. (7) 58% If you have time. (3) 25% No. (1) 8% One of the best games this season. (1) 8% Great game. (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend TY vs Impact game 2? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
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Nice engage and concave to conclude a very good game from TY
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On July 20 2016 18:50 Phredxor wrote: God damn. Lost 35 scvs. Still on 45. When you got 76 SCVs it's okay to lose some
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On July 20 2016 18:53 Ej_ wrote: Impact would be actually really ahead now if he had cancelled the 4th CC not really TY just cancels it and rebuilds in main base - he wasnt mining from his 4th for the longest time anyway - wouldnt have made a difference
now if impact's economy had been better and his Hive/Infestors were on the way - then we could talk xD
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Impact losing that lair was really awkward for him. If he'd had at least an infestation pit ready I think it wouldn't have been quite as bad though.
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On July 20 2016 18:55 Seedfan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 18:53 Ej_ wrote: Impact would be actually really ahead now if he had cancelled the 4th CC not really TY just cancels it and rebuilds in main base - he wasnt mining from his 4th for the longest time anyway - wouldnt have made a difference now if impact's economy had been better and his Hive/Infestors were on the way - then we could talk xD just having infestation pit ready earlier would have helped tremendously
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did tasteless just call that girl a guy lol :D
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TY did this against DeParture in season 1, too.
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On July 20 2016 18:56 Elentos wrote: Impact losing that lair was really awkward for him. If he'd had at least an infestation pit ready I think it wouldn't have been quite as bad though. exactly
but I don't think he had any lategame plans when he morphed mass ravagers and yoloed towards TY bases
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On July 20 2016 18:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 18:55 Seedfan wrote:On July 20 2016 18:53 Ej_ wrote: Impact would be actually really ahead now if he had cancelled the 4th CC not really TY just cancels it and rebuilds in main base - he wasnt mining from his 4th for the longest time anyway - wouldnt have made a difference now if impact's economy had been better and his Hive/Infestors were on the way - then we could talk xD just having infestation pit ready earlier would have helped tremendously would have been nice for sure - but impact didnt have the economy to make much use of it
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wow wow wow such disrespect
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close ! Nice micro and defense from ImPact
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? The spire wasn't a reaction to getting scouted. He was taking 3 gases and doesn't have a roach warren.
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I'd cancel the spire too.
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nothing going right for Impact... That drone barbecue...
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stop stop already dead and such
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ahahahaha epic hero queen
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Impact actually missed the biles. Nerves.
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i think impact might be literally retarded given how he can't hit visible unit markers with biles
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Impact has poor eyesight or something, he keeps missing stationary targets with the biles.
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How can he miss immobile liberators lol It's not like they were in a tricky spot either
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rofl Artosis, that about sums up this series
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You know guys that there are positions on the edges that if you set up a liberator there shooting a bile is actually really hard and unintuitive
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OH
that drone line got roasted
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And just like that, the Zerg hopes got barbecued.
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On July 20 2016 19:03 Nerchio wrote: You know guys that there are positions on the edges that if you set up a liberator there shooting a bile is actually really hard and unintuitive they were in range, he just hit his own OL instead
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On July 20 2016 19:02 Ej_ wrote: i think impact might be literally retarded given how he can't hit visible unit markers with biles Cmon...
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On July 20 2016 19:03 Nerchio wrote: You know guys that there are positions on the edges that if you set up a liberator there shooting a bile is actually really hard and unintuitive he's korean really hard things shouldn't be a problem for him
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On July 20 2016 19:03 Nerchio wrote: You know guys that there are positions on the edges that if you set up a liberator there shooting a bile is actually really hard and unintuitive He already missed biles on tanks and medivacs that weren't moving in game 1.
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thats pretty much perfect tvz by TY
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tough series for Impact, hope that doesn't kill his morale
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Poll: Recommend TY vs Impact game 3?No. (9) 69% If you have time. (2) 15% Good game. (1) 8% One of the best games this season. (1) 8% Great game. (0) 0% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend TY vs Impact game 3? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
Poll: Recommend sOs vs Super game 1?If you have time. (5) 45% No. (2) 18% Good game. (2) 18% One of the best games this season. (2) 18% Great game. (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Super game 1? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
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So far every KT player who went 2-0 in their first match got eliminated in the Ro32
TY pls
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On July 20 2016 19:06 Keeemy wrote: KT still best KT If you forget Myungsik vs Stats, sure  (Classic vs LosirA too, but that one was not really a surprise)
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Nuclear bomb on a gazelle
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I don't understand how people can say that korean zergs are better than europeans after watching this.
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Caster death battle for the Hot6ix can?
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On July 20 2016 19:06 Durnuu wrote:If you forget Myungsik vs Stats, sure  (Classic vs LosirA too, but that one was not really a surprise) Man those were ages ago, gotta live in the present
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sOs vs Super should be interesting, sOs has been vulnerable in PvP recently and Super is a very strong player.
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On July 20 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote: sOs vs Super should be interesting, sOs has been vulnerable in PvP recently and Super is a very strong player. Who is also vulnerable in PvP. Or at least somewhat predictable. Super goes nexus first on Frost basically every time and he likes his proxy robo builds on Frozen Temple.
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On July 20 2016 19:09 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote: sOs vs Super should be interesting, sOs has been vulnerable in PvP recently and Super is a very strong player. Who is also vulnerable in PvP. Or at least somewhat predictable. Super goes nexus first on Frost basically every time and he likes his proxy robo builds on Frozen Temple. yeah that's definitely true but I'm pretty sure Super will play safer given how much sOs likes his strange offbeat builds
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On July 20 2016 19:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 19:09 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote: sOs vs Super should be interesting, sOs has been vulnerable in PvP recently and Super is a very strong player. Who is also vulnerable in PvP. Or at least somewhat predictable. Super goes nexus first on Frost basically every time and he likes his proxy robo builds on Frozen Temple. yeah that's definitely true but I'm pretty sure Super will play safer given how much sOs likes his strange offbeat builds Honestly in PvP sOs doesn't play that strange.
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Jesus Tasteless please children are watching
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On July 20 2016 19:13 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 19:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 19:09 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote: sOs vs Super should be interesting, sOs has been vulnerable in PvP recently and Super is a very strong player. Who is also vulnerable in PvP. Or at least somewhat predictable. Super goes nexus first on Frost basically every time and he likes his proxy robo builds on Frozen Temple. yeah that's definitely true but I'm pretty sure Super will play safer given how much sOs likes his strange offbeat builds Honestly in PvP sOs doesn't play that strange. depends he can play pretty standard but he goes skytoss/colossi/2 bases/proxies quite often
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On July 20 2016 19:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 19:13 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 19:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 19:09 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote: sOs vs Super should be interesting, sOs has been vulnerable in PvP recently and Super is a very strong player. Who is also vulnerable in PvP. Or at least somewhat predictable. Super goes nexus first on Frost basically every time and he likes his proxy robo builds on Frozen Temple. yeah that's definitely true but I'm pretty sure Super will play safer given how much sOs likes his strange offbeat builds Honestly in PvP sOs doesn't play that strange. depends he can play pretty standard but he goes skytoss/colossi/2 bases/proxies quite often And the strangest one of those is the colossus build
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On July 20 2016 19:15 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 19:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 19:13 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 19:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 19:09 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 19:08 [PkF] Wire wrote: sOs vs Super should be interesting, sOs has been vulnerable in PvP recently and Super is a very strong player. Who is also vulnerable in PvP. Or at least somewhat predictable. Super goes nexus first on Frost basically every time and he likes his proxy robo builds on Frozen Temple. yeah that's definitely true but I'm pretty sure Super will play safer given how much sOs likes his strange offbeat builds Honestly in PvP sOs doesn't play that strange. depends he can play pretty standard but he goes skytoss/colossi/2 bases/proxies quite often And the strangest one of those is the colossus build seems fun to say after WoL and HotS but yeah definitely
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let's see if we get a taste of the current Korean PvP (glaives) meta
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wow Super is making a robo, did not see that coming
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overcharge + immo should defend easily for sOs
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Shine pls Tasteless paid more attention to the mothership core than you
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2 hps... Super is dead anyway but lucky save
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I'm sure some Protoss players go hard for 1-base all-ins.
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nice prism hunting skills, nearly Mlord level
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Double twilight council for that Blink + Glaives timing
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Double twilight for no upgrades
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The double twilight is for the triple dark shrine play nobody has seen yet.
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blink + glaives timing would be fun
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Poll: Recommend sOs vs Super game 1?If you have time. (5) 45% No. (2) 18% Good game. (2) 18% One of the best games this season. (2) 18% Great game. (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Super game 1? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
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whoops the polls were messed up and nobody noticed
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help me fill this poll then
Poll: Recommend TY vs Impact game 1?Good game. (5) 50% If you have time. (3) 30% No. (1) 10% One of the best games this season. (1) 10% Great game. (0) 0% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend TY vs Impact game 1? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
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that artosis '.... no...' LOL
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Well Pikachu is the only son of a bitch who says his name in the games.
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ha ha nice proxy location
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Cannot get any proxy-er than that.
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relentless harass ! quite ok defense from Super though
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On July 20 2016 19:30 RHoudini wrote: Cannot get any proxy-er than that. I see you are unfamiliar with Has.
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Poll: Recommend sOs vs Super game 2?Good game. (4) 57% If you have time. (2) 29% One of the best games this season. (1) 14% No. (0) 0% Great game. (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Super game 2? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
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and nice counter ! gg Super !
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sOs was being cute, Super was being good
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did Tosis read the game wrong ? I saw Super with 9 more probes even after all these kills, or is interface mirrored?
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On July 20 2016 19:33 Ej_ wrote: sOs was being cute, Super was being good
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On July 20 2016 19:33 Durnuu wrote: Lmao sOs are you serious Typical sOs, his micro can't keep up with his mind.
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On July 20 2016 19:33 Quateras wrote: did Tosis read the game wrong ? I saw Super with 9 more probes even after all these kills, or is interface mirrored? Super had 21 probes after sOs was done with the harassment. What did you see?
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On July 20 2016 19:34 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 19:33 Quateras wrote: did Tosis read the game wrong ? I saw Super with 9 more probes even after all these kills, or is interface mirrored? Super had 21 probes after sOs was done with the harassment. What did you see? I think he even fell to 19 at some point. He was quite far ahead on the army supply though.
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Nice to see both have faith in mighty glaives
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PvP has been a million times more enjoyable to watch ever since they realized they can just kill the other guy if he is trying to tech Disruptor
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On July 20 2016 19:39 Seedfan wrote: PvP has been a million times more enjoyable to watch ever since they realized they can just kill the other guy if he is trying to tech Disruptor pvp is a blast both to play and watch in lotv
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I like how Super sees 2 adepts coming from his main base and thinks nothing of it.
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It really looks like they changed the rocks between the natural and 3rd. Probably to help Zerg?
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Super has +2 going and sOs has no forge ???
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quite an antitiming from Super, wait for +2 to finish
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it's far closer than what Tastosis are thinking, +2 vs nothing, 32 probes for sOs
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If Super counter attacked after winning the fight I think sOs would have just straight up died because his mothership core died right then.
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close Super just let his eco get too much destroyed by the adepts and chose a strange antitiming
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Super has three times less probes, twice the army supply and decides to kill nexus and let sOs rebuild units =.=
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On July 20 2016 19:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 19:39 Seedfan wrote: PvP has been a million times more enjoyable to watch ever since they realized they can just kill the other guy if he is trying to tech Disruptor pvp is a blast both to play and watch in lotv
HotS PvP was a lot better
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Poll: Recommend sOs vs Super game 3?One of the best games this season. (2) 33% No. (1) 17% If you have time. (1) 17% Good game. (1) 17% Great game. (1) 17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Super game 3? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
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On July 20 2016 19:46 Ej_ wrote: Super has three times less probes, twice the army supply and decides to kill nexus and let sOs rebuild units =.= yeah that was kinda stupid, he had to yolo the ramp with shades and the prism to avoid FFs
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On July 20 2016 19:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 19:46 Ej_ wrote: Super has three times less probes, twice the army supply and decides to kill nexus and let sOs rebuild units =.= yeah that was kinda stupid, he had to yolo the ramp with shades and the prism to avoid FFs His 4 stalker drop killed the mothership core twice and he waited to attack until sOs had rebuild it again.
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On July 20 2016 19:47 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 19:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 19:39 Seedfan wrote: PvP has been a million times more enjoyable to watch ever since they realized they can just kill the other guy if he is trying to tech Disruptor pvp is a blast both to play and watch in lotv HotS PvP was a lot better  yeah I know what you think about that 
btw can you elaborate on why you enjoyed HotS PvP more ?
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omg this is the first time that tastosis went to the korean ads AFTER they had started
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Interesting that TY vetoes Frozen
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On July 20 2016 19:55 Elentos wrote: Interesting that TY vetoes Frozen I'd even say intriguing but maybe those tank/cyclones shenanigans are now figured out at the highest Korean level
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On July 20 2016 19:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:I'd even say intriguing but maybe those tank/cyclones shenanigans are now figured out at the highest Korean level Maybe he didn't even like using the build to begin with.
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On July 20 2016 19:57 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 19:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 19:55 Elentos wrote: Interesting that TY vetoes Frozen I'd even say intriguing but maybe those tank/cyclones shenanigans are now figured out at the highest Korean level Maybe he didn't even like using the build to begin with. yeah possible
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It's TYME for a beat down.
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If sOs wants to win vs TY his play must be much more cleaner than vs Super but I still believe BLIZZCON!!!!
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By the way the other day I was off-racing as Protoss on Frozen Temple. The other guy was a Terran. He started with balance whining about Zerg being super OP vs Terran, followed it up with going 3-rax reaper (against Protoss, mind you), he turned his 3rd base into a planetary, and when I completely rekt him, he complained about Protoss as well. The things you can see in diamond.
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proxy observer now
fuck you, fucking cheeser
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You never go all the way down there
Unless it's sOs
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proxy observer revolutionizing the meta
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On July 20 2016 19:59 [PkF] Wire wrote: proxy observer revolutionizing the meta It wanted to be a disruptor drop, but it settled for being an observer in the end.
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On July 20 2016 19:58 Elentos wrote: By the way the other day I was off-racing as Protoss on Frozen Temple. The other guy was a Terran. He started with balance whining about Zerg being super OP vs Terran, followed it up with going 3-rax reaper (against Protoss, mind you), he turned his 3rd base into a planetary, and when I completely rekt him, he complained about Protoss as well. The things you can see in diamond. my favorite game was when someone decided to do a hellbat allin vs me, saw me make roaches off 4:30 RW and just suicided his hellions on drones
10min later he complained how much of an overpowered easy race Zerg is when i amoved ultra/ling over widow mines bio
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Artosis reaction time to TY's hot pickup: 12 seconds
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On July 20 2016 19:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 19:47 Olli wrote:On July 20 2016 19:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 19:39 Seedfan wrote: PvP has been a million times more enjoyable to watch ever since they realized they can just kill the other guy if he is trying to tech Disruptor pvp is a blast both to play and watch in lotv HotS PvP was a lot better  yeah I know what you think about that  btw can you elaborate on why you enjoyed HotS PvP more ?
I feel like openings are a huge coinflip in LotV, partially because of how overcharge works. There are builds you simply cannot defend with certain other builds. In HotS PvP, you essentially had two builds (SG into blink, blink/robo) that at least defended everything if you played them properly, which means you could at least play straight up games if you wanted to. You could fall behind economically, but good scouting wouldn't let that happen. There was real meaning to each aspect of the matchup (upgrades, tech, economy, standing army), as well as two different playstyles (charge/archon/immortal and colossus styles) to choose from. Every tech could be used in a one base opener, as well as after expand.
In LotV that's not the case. Upgrades for starters are nowhere near as big as they used to be (some people don't even get a forge until really late in the game, whereas you immediately started a forge in HotS when you felt safe). Overcharge is really silly in a lot of scenarios and I feel like there's much less brains to it than there used to be. You just throw it out whenever you want now, in HotS you had to be super careful about when and how to use it. Disruptors (even though we don't see them as much anymore) are terrible to play in PvP and ramming charge/archon armies into each other for days isn't fun either. You wouldn't have that in HotS, you'd have someone teching to colossi and charge/archon played as a mobile army to threaten and take fights in the open until you were ready to get your own lategame tech. There was a lot more positional skill required in HotS (adepts are really really dumb in that aspect), as well as a lot more timings opening up through tech/upgrades/economy. With new overcharge, timings really aren't a thing against a defensively set up player. You have to wait until they take a fight in the open.
That's just some incoherent rambling, and I'm sure I forgot some aspects, but it covers a bit.
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And then it's a blink all-in!
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
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DT follow up will kill him anyway
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so I think TY should just murder him, but pylons
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TY having survived is already pretty impressive
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On July 20 2016 20:07 Elentos wrote: sOs is so gross if sOs was European, he would be Russian
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He didn't call the bluff, he just saw the units
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On July 20 2016 20:09 Elentos wrote: He didn't call the bluff, he just saw the units WHAT A READ
A LITERAL GOD
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On July 20 2016 20:09 Elentos wrote: I hate sOs so much I love sOs so much  Don't worry, I doubt TY will do like Stats/LosirA and lose the rematch
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On July 20 2016 20:10 Durnuu wrote:I love sOs so much  Durnuu pls you're the only respectable SKT fan, don't ruin it
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On July 20 2016 20:10 Alchemik wrote: so I heard Impact lost he can't aim biles. literally, he misses them on sieged tanks and liberators
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On July 20 2016 20:02 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 19:48 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 19:47 Olli wrote:On July 20 2016 19:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 19:39 Seedfan wrote: PvP has been a million times more enjoyable to watch ever since they realized they can just kill the other guy if he is trying to tech Disruptor pvp is a blast both to play and watch in lotv HotS PvP was a lot better  yeah I know what you think about that  btw can you elaborate on why you enjoyed HotS PvP more ? I feel like openings are a huge coinflip in LotV, partially because of how overcharge works. There are builds you simply cannot defend with certain other builds. In HotS PvP, you essentially had two builds (SG into blink, blink/robo) that at least defended everything if you played them properly, which means you could at least play straight up games if you wanted to. You could fall behind economically, but good scouting wouldn't let that happen. There was real meaning to each aspect of the matchup (upgrades, tech, economy, standing army), as well as two different playstyles (charge/archon/immortal and colossus styles) to choose from. Every tech could be used in a one base opener, as well as after expand. In LotV that's not the case. Upgrades for starters are nowhere near as big as they used to be (some people don't even get a forge until really late in the game, whereas you immediately started a forge in HotS when you felt safe). Overcharge is really silly in a lot of scenarios and I feel like there's much less brains to it than there used to be. You just throw it out whenever you want now, in HotS you had to be super careful about when and how to use it. Disruptors (even though we don't see them as much anymore) are terrible to play in PvP and ramming charge/archon armies into each other for days isn't fun either. You wouldn't have that in HotS, you'd have someone teching to colossi and charge/archon played as a mobile army to threaten and take fights in the open until you were ready to get your own lategame tech. There was a lot more positional skill required in HotS (adepts are really really dumb in that aspect), as well as a lot more timings opening up through tech/upgrades/economy. With new overcharge, timings really aren't a thing against a defensively set up player. You have to wait until they take a fight in the open. That's just some incoherent rambling, and I'm sure I forgot some aspects, but it covers a bit. I can get where you're coming from. I agree overcharge can make things frustrating. But I like that the mu has become rather stable. It actually allows two major styles like in HotS (blink/disruptors and ICA with phoenix vs disruptors). Personally I enjoy it a lot more than I did in HotS but maybe that's just because my winrate skyrocketed hahaha. Anyway thanks for sharing your thoughts on the mu.
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losing KSS is really terrible for TY, the other maps are very good for P
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On July 20 2016 20:10 Ej_ wrote:he can't aim biles. literally, he misses them on sieged tanks and liberators sounds like me, Korean Zergs make me feel good about my play, shame I only watch those filthy better foreigners
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On July 20 2016 20:10 Alchemik wrote: so I heard Impact lost And I heard the loser of first match will advance to Ro. 16
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On July 20 2016 20:11 [PkF] Wire wrote: losing KSS is really terrible for TY, the other maps are very good for P pvt in general is very good for p
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Tasteless' laugh is contagious lol
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haha he made the oracle lose all its mana
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On July 20 2016 20:13 IMPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:11 [PkF] Wire wrote: losing KSS is really terrible for TY, the other maps are very good for P pvt in general is very good for p ...
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wow skytoss it's my favorite playstyle when i want to die inside and question my race choice in 2011
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first Impact's as good as me with biles, and now sOs mimmicks my ladder opponents' style
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void rays into colossi. sOs is enjoying life right now.
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On July 20 2016 20:16 Alchemik wrote: first Impact's as good as me with biles, and now sOs mimmicks my ladder opponents' style wait no, he doesn't yet have carriers and twenty cannons per base
he could learn a thing or two
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TY pls, you need to win so that Impact can get out as well
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sOs really persistent with void rays colossi
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This was a slaughter, very bad engagement by sOs. Ahead all game into throw your army away. wtf.
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On July 20 2016 20:21 sashkata wrote: TY pls, you need to win so that Impact can get out as well Impact is gonna have to step it up real hard if he wants to beat Super. I don't know if he'll even be able to hit pylons with biles atm
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That TY guy seems pretty good.
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aaaaand this is why I don't think colossi styles are that good or at least not void rays colossi
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On July 20 2016 20:24 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:21 sashkata wrote: TY pls, you need to win so that Impact can get out as well Impact is gonna to step it up real hard if he wants to beat Super. I don't know if he'll even be able to hit pylons with biles atm hahahaha
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how did sos lose that game
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On July 20 2016 20:25 IMPrime wrote: how did sos lose that game terran is very clearly overpowered, not even void rays can beat QUDRAPLE LIBERATION
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On July 20 2016 20:25 IMPrime wrote: how did sos lose that game the attack was pretty sloppy and then TY had better tech and a solid economy
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TY will not be happy when he'll see cross
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Now TvP have become entirely doom dropping from the Terran side. Really hate this side of Terran.
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On July 20 2016 20:25 IMPrime wrote: how did sos lose that game
Shading his Adepts too far (Colossi couldn't help them kill stuff off) and not enough AA to keep the Colossi alive. That fight was so bad, the Colossi did nothing but die, Adepts were slaughtered alone and Stalkers were killed by Liberators.
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On July 20 2016 20:26 CruelZeratul wrote:Shading is Adepts to far (Colossi couldn't help them kill stuff off) and not enough AA to keep the Colossi alive. That fight was so bad, the Colossi did nothing but die, Adepts were slaughtered alone and Stalkers were killed by Liberators. the colossi actually burnt quite a lot of bio but yeah the shading was really not precise
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5 probes and 3 trees, I'd say that was worth it
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sOs channeling his inner Lilbow
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On July 20 2016 20:28 [PkF] Wire wrote: 5 probes and 3 trees, I'd say that was worth it 5 probes, 3 trees and delayed mining! Best hellions KR
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On July 20 2016 20:28 [PkF] Wire wrote: 5 probes and 3 trees, I'd say that was worth it marines should be able to climb trees and enter the base like that
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Fire alarm.
Keep on playing boys.
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Lost stim immediately, RIP TY
Frost forever blink territory
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Ouch, stim cancelled immediately
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Starcraft is more important than immolation!
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it's the time paradox alarm
WE ARE IN 2014
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RIP TY. Blink all in too strong for him.
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love how the headphones are so soundproof that they cant hear the fire alarm
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lol literally 2014 TvP
My least favorite time in SC2
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Still hate sOs by the way
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Well that was a lame series.
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"TY is the best defensive terran, he doesn't lose to allins" - Wolf everytime TY plays a TvP TY then loses 2 games to all-ins
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Is this what they mean by Protossed?
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Austria24417 Posts
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On July 20 2016 20:33 [17]Purple wrote: Is this what they mean by Protossed? protossed is when you kill 10 probes, hold blink and then die to dark templars
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bad scouting from TY this game as well
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I thought it was 2-2 right now, which seems kind of impossible in a Bo3 when I think about it.
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Hate blink all ins...but love sOs so it's okay!
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On July 20 2016 20:33 Olli wrote: Don't open cyclone D: Yeah TY is a bit of a silly goose
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to go into Blizzcon, sOs needs: -Classic and Patience to drop out of everything right now OR -to win GSL OR -to take 2nd in GSL and win the cross finals
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Honestly TY should've banked his early damage with the hellions and just played safer. He could've scanned the main and seen blink and the warp prism and had two bunkers in his main by the ridge
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On July 20 2016 20:33 [PkF] Wire wrote: bad scouting from TY this game as well seeing a robo and twilight wouldn't have told TY anything useful
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On July 20 2016 20:33 Ej_ wrote:protossed is when you kill 10 probes, hold blink and then die to dark templars
I thought it was when you kill all their economy and then die to a deathball while you've got 2000/2000 in the bank that you can't spend because he's on top of your rax
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On July 20 2016 20:35 Darkhorse wrote: Honestly TY should've banked his early damage with the hellions and just played safer. He could've scanned the main and seen blink and the warp prism and had two bunkers in his main by the ridge If you see blink and a prism you still don't know it's an all-in
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On July 20 2016 20:34 Ej_ wrote: to go into Blizzcon, sOs needs: -Classic and Patience to drop out of everything right now OR -to win GSL OR -to take 2nd in GSL and win the cross finals when Die4ever does not do his job anymore, Ej takes up the torch
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On July 20 2016 20:34 Ej_ wrote: to go into Blizzcon, sOs needs: -Classic and Patience to drop out of everything right now OR -to win GSL OR -to take 2nd in GSL and win the cross finals
Don't think either will happen. Classic's pretty good and sOs isn't good enough to win GSL
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On July 20 2016 20:36 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:35 Darkhorse wrote: Honestly TY should've banked his early damage with the hellions and just played safer. He could've scanned the main and seen blink and the warp prism and had two bunkers in his main by the ridge If you see blink and a prism you still don't know it's an all-in he wouldn't had have to open cyclone then
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the huge problem was the stim snipe with stim the attack would be crushed and was like 15 sek away from finishing
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If TY gets eliminated from this group I have no words.
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On July 20 2016 20:37 zakadar wrote: the huge problem was the stim snipe with stim the attack would be crushed and was like 15 sek away from finishing
yeah the tech lab was exposed and sOs didn't miss the opportunity
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On July 20 2016 20:38 Elentos wrote: If TY gets eliminated from this group I have no words.
I could see it happen, Super has really good PvT
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On July 20 2016 20:37 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:36 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:35 Darkhorse wrote: Honestly TY should've banked his early damage with the hellions and just played safer. He could've scanned the main and seen blink and the warp prism and had two bunkers in his main by the ridge If you see blink and a prism you still don't know it's an all-in he wouldn't had have to open cyclone then if it's only a harass opening from sos, cyclone can hit the warp prism
plus the cyclone might've been made by the time he could've scouted the main with his hellions anyway. He switched off the factory immediately after the hellions were made.
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On July 20 2016 20:38 Elentos wrote: If TY gets eliminated from this group I have no words. He didn't go 0-2 in the Winners' match unlike Stats and LosirA, he'll be fine
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So now TY just extended his match losing streak against sOs into 6?
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On July 20 2016 20:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:37 zakadar wrote: the huge problem was the stim snipe with stim the attack would be crushed and was like 15 sek away from finishing
yeah the tech lab was exposed and sOs didn't miss the opportunity Well the only place where it wouldn't have been exposed was like right next to the CC
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On July 20 2016 20:41 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:37 zakadar wrote: the huge problem was the stim snipe with stim the attack would be crushed and was like 15 sek away from finishing
yeah the tech lab was exposed and sOs didn't miss the opportunity Well the only place where it wouldn't have been exposed was like right next to the CC fucking Frost
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On July 20 2016 20:41 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:37 zakadar wrote: the huge problem was the stim snipe with stim the attack would be crushed and was like 15 sek away from finishing
yeah the tech lab was exposed and sOs didn't miss the opportunity Well the only place where it wouldn't have been exposed was like right next to the CC problem solved
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On July 20 2016 20:41 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:41 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:37 zakadar wrote: the huge problem was the stim snipe with stim the attack would be crushed and was like 15 sek away from finishing
yeah the tech lab was exposed and sOs didn't miss the opportunity Well the only place where it wouldn't have been exposed was like right next to the CC problem solved I remember when you had to make a fucking wall off around your greater spire against chargelots and Terrans don't bother to make a rax 6 hexes to the right.
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On July 20 2016 20:41 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:41 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:37 zakadar wrote: the huge problem was the stim snipe with stim the attack would be crushed and was like 15 sek away from finishing
yeah the tech lab was exposed and sOs didn't miss the opportunity Well the only place where it wouldn't have been exposed was like right next to the CC fucking Frost  yeah it's a really bad map in LotV
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On July 20 2016 20:42 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:41 Alchemik wrote:On July 20 2016 20:41 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:37 zakadar wrote: the huge problem was the stim snipe with stim the attack would be crushed and was like 15 sek away from finishing
yeah the tech lab was exposed and sOs didn't miss the opportunity Well the only place where it wouldn't have been exposed was like right next to the CC problem solved I remember when you had to make a fucking wall off around your greater spire against chargelots and Terrans don't bother to make a rax 6 hexes to the right. Eh if they get close enough to snipe stim you're probably dead anyway
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On July 20 2016 20:43 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:41 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:41 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:37 zakadar wrote: the huge problem was the stim snipe with stim the attack would be crushed and was like 15 sek away from finishing
yeah the tech lab was exposed and sOs didn't miss the opportunity Well the only place where it wouldn't have been exposed was like right next to the CC fucking Frost  yeah it's a really bad map in LotV I'm pretty sure it's my best map so I can't complain.
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On July 20 2016 20:43 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:41 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:41 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:37 zakadar wrote: the huge problem was the stim snipe with stim the attack would be crushed and was like 15 sek away from finishing
yeah the tech lab was exposed and sOs didn't miss the opportunity Well the only place where it wouldn't have been exposed was like right next to the CC fucking Frost  yeah it's a really bad map in LotV KSS too tbh I don't understand why KespA was so happy bringing them back.
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Impact vs Super is probably gonna be a shitshow.
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On July 20 2016 20:45 Elentos wrote: Impact vs Super is probably gonna be a shitshow. Impact will probably all-in hard
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On July 20 2016 20:42 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:41 Alchemik wrote:On July 20 2016 20:41 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:37 zakadar wrote: the huge problem was the stim snipe with stim the attack would be crushed and was like 15 sek away from finishing
yeah the tech lab was exposed and sOs didn't miss the opportunity Well the only place where it wouldn't have been exposed was like right next to the CC problem solved I remember when you had to make a fucking wall off around your greater spire against chargelots
That's all you had to do to win though
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Hopefully Impact will hit something with his biles. Hopefully it won't be his units
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On July 20 2016 20:46 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:42 Ej_ wrote:On July 20 2016 20:41 Alchemik wrote:On July 20 2016 20:41 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:37 zakadar wrote: the huge problem was the stim snipe with stim the attack would be crushed and was like 15 sek away from finishing
yeah the tech lab was exposed and sOs didn't miss the opportunity Well the only place where it wouldn't have been exposed was like right next to the CC problem solved I remember when you had to make a fucking wall off around your greater spire against chargelots That's all you had to do to win though well versus HerO you just needed 1 mining base anyway
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17/17 vs nexus first
goodbye super, was nice knowing you
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On July 20 2016 20:47 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:46 Olli wrote:On July 20 2016 20:42 Ej_ wrote:On July 20 2016 20:41 Alchemik wrote:On July 20 2016 20:41 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:37 zakadar wrote: the huge problem was the stim snipe with stim the attack would be crushed and was like 15 sek away from finishing
yeah the tech lab was exposed and sOs didn't miss the opportunity Well the only place where it wouldn't have been exposed was like right next to the CC problem solved I remember when you had to make a fucking wall off around your greater spire against chargelots That's all you had to do to win though well versus HerO you just needed 1 mining base anyway
And he was the best WoL PvZer, that should tell you something
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in some games a nomad spore was enough to secure the win
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On July 20 2016 20:45 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:45 Elentos wrote: Impact vs Super is probably gonna be a shitshow. Impact will probably all-in hard Well, let's see.
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On July 20 2016 20:49 [PkF] Wire wrote: in some games a nomad spore was enough to secure the win That reminds me of the time soO vs Fantasy came down to a single spore getting sniped by a banshee that was almost out of energy
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hhahahaahahahahaha what a wall
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On July 20 2016 20:50 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:49 [PkF] Wire wrote: in some games a nomad spore was enough to secure the win That reminds me of the time soO vs Fantasy came down to a single spore getting sniped by a banshee that was almost out of energy great finish indeed
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So if Impact and TY play again, does Impact get rerekt, or does dark GSL magic make TY lose for no good reason?
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lol that wall still has two holes
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On July 20 2016 20:51 Elentos wrote: So if Impact and TY play again, does Impact get rerekt, or does dark GSL magic make TY lose for no good reason? rerekt
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Is killing the rocks better than going around them here for Impact?
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On July 20 2016 20:51 Elentos wrote: So if Impact and TY play again, does Impact get rerekt, or does dark GSL magic make TY lose for no good reason? Impact gets rerekt even harder than before.
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he can't make DTs here, triggers spores
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He cancelled the lair and restarted it?
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Impact is gonna get Incaed
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Yes Impact. Eliminate Super. That'll make me happier about TY's chances.
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On July 20 2016 20:53 Ej_ wrote: he can't make DTs here, triggers spores Apparently not from Impact
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why did he not split the DTs ????
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On July 20 2016 20:54 Ej_ wrote: he got 2 drones
worth it but no tree
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Impact should just take a 4th and make a spire, fuck DT/robo
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On July 20 2016 20:56 Olli wrote: That still is not a wall seems Impact noticed  nice walling skills
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Why did he stop killing the robo tho?
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nearly 30 probes killed
worth it
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this is one of these games where you start creeping entire map and make a spine and spore forest in front of their natural
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On July 20 2016 20:57 [PkF] Wire wrote: nearly 30 probes killed
worth it No trees but it's still alright
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hey Impact biles can hit enemy things
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Poll: Recommend losers' match game 1?If you have time. (3) 75% No. (1) 25% Good game. (0) 0% Great game. (0) 0% One of the best games this season. (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend losers' match game 1? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
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On July 20 2016 20:58 [PkF] Wire wrote: hey Impact biles can hit enemy things Only things that move or are about to move apparently.
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On July 20 2016 20:57 Elentos wrote:No trees but it's still alright how many workers are worth a tree ?
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On July 20 2016 20:58 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:58 [PkF] Wire wrote: hey Impact biles can hit enemy things Only things that move or are about to move apparently. he's so good at predicting movements he sometimes predicts sieged tanks or pylons will move
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On July 20 2016 20:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:57 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:57 [PkF] Wire wrote: nearly 30 probes killed
worth it No trees but it's still alright how many workers are worth a tree ? they should bring back the Fruitland lemons
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On July 20 2016 20:59 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:57 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:57 [PkF] Wire wrote: nearly 30 probes killed
worth it No trees but it's still alright how many workers are worth a tree ? they should bring back the Fruitland lemons Should have brought back Fruitland instead of King Sejong
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On July 20 2016 20:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:58 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:58 [PkF] Wire wrote: hey Impact biles can hit enemy things Only things that move or are about to move apparently. he's so good at predicting movements he sometimes predicts sieged tanks or pylons will move Hey, tankivacs are a thing  Hopefully we can overcharge Warp Prisms soon, so moving pylons are a thing too
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On July 20 2016 21:01 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:58 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:58 [PkF] Wire wrote: hey Impact biles can hit enemy things Only things that move or are about to move apparently. he's so good at predicting movements he sometimes predicts sieged tanks or pylons will move Hey, tankivacs are a thing  Hopefully we can overcharge Warp Prisms soon, so moving pylons are a thing too hahahahaha overcharge on warp prisms don't give Z and T nightmares
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That's an Artosis pylon Super, you gotta reinforce that.
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On July 20 2016 21:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:01 Durnuu wrote:On July 20 2016 20:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:58 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:58 [PkF] Wire wrote: hey Impact biles can hit enemy things Only things that move or are about to move apparently. he's so good at predicting movements he sometimes predicts sieged tanks or pylons will move Hey, tankivacs are a thing  Hopefully we can overcharge Warp Prisms soon, so moving pylons are a thing too hahahahaha overcharge on warp prisms don't give Z and T nightmares it's fine if I get 9 range queens
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On July 20 2016 21:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:01 Durnuu wrote:On July 20 2016 20:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:58 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:58 [PkF] Wire wrote: hey Impact biles can hit enemy things Only things that move or are about to move apparently. he's so good at predicting movements he sometimes predicts sieged tanks or pylons will move Hey, tankivacs are a thing  Hopefully we can overcharge Warp Prisms soon, so moving pylons are a thing too hahahahaha overcharge on warp prisms don't give Z and T nightmares Regular prisms are bad enough for the nightmares already, this would really take the cake though.
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On July 20 2016 21:02 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 21:01 Durnuu wrote:On July 20 2016 20:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:58 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:58 [PkF] Wire wrote: hey Impact biles can hit enemy things Only things that move or are about to move apparently. he's so good at predicting movements he sometimes predicts sieged tanks or pylons will move Hey, tankivacs are a thing  Hopefully we can overcharge Warp Prisms soon, so moving pylons are a thing too hahahahaha overcharge on warp prisms don't give Z and T nightmares it's fine if I get 9 range queens three patches away from now building a queen at your nat will be considered a proxy queen since it will be able to hit your main
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Wicker man!
NOT THE BEEEEESS
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On July 20 2016 21:03 Ej_ wrote: Wicker man!
NOT THE BEEEEESS THEY'RE IN MY EYES
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when Super has a tight wall he gets dropped
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Super: When in game, dark shrine!
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I recently decided to rewatch some 2014 GSL and found that 1 group when TaiLS 4-0'd through RorO and Classic
It was a good day.
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On July 20 2016 21:05 Ej_ wrote: I recently decided to rewatch some 2014 GSL and found that 1 group when TaiLS 4-0'd through RorO and Classic
It was a good day. So that's why RorO retired
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Wait what he lost the prism? Super what the fuck?
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On July 20 2016 21:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:01 Durnuu wrote:On July 20 2016 20:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 20:58 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:58 [PkF] Wire wrote: hey Impact biles can hit enemy things Only things that move or are about to move apparently. he's so good at predicting movements he sometimes predicts sieged tanks or pylons will move Hey, tankivacs are a thing  Hopefully we can overcharge Warp Prisms soon, so moving pylons are a thing too hahahahaha overcharge on warp prisms don't give Z and T nightmares the new mutation's enough
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69 supply to more than 120 : yeah Artosis the game isn't over
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sOs > TY >> Impact >>> Super?
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On July 20 2016 21:06 Elentos wrote: sOs > TY >> Impact >>> Super? strange thing is that in that chain of inequalities Super is probably roughly equal to TY. Non transitivity in SC2.
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"If it's not working, why would you stop doing it?"
Thanks Tasteless, that explains so many things.
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Lurkers already out, time to get blink.
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Poll: Recommend losers' match game 2?If you have time. (3) 100% No. (0) 0% Good game. (0) 0% Great game. (0) 0% One of the best games this season. (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend losers' match game 2? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
Poll: Recommend losers' match game 3?If you have time. (2) 100% No. (0) 0% Good game. (0) 0% Great game. (0) 0% One of the best games this season. (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend losers' match game 3? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
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Well played Impact, I guess Don't get rekt too hard by TY
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On July 20 2016 21:08 Durnuu wrote: Well played Impact, I guess Don't get rekt too hard by TY I think he should try to get rekt harder than the first time. That would be truly impressive.
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don't worry, Super. You shall forever be remembered for humiliating a certain terran
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On July 20 2016 21:05 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:05 Ej_ wrote: I recently decided to rewatch some 2014 GSL and found that 1 group when TaiLS 4-0'd through RorO and Classic
It was a good day. So that's why RorO retired
I assume it was because after winning "Best Zerg of 2013" he knew he had achieved everything.
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On July 20 2016 21:10 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:05 Durnuu wrote:On July 20 2016 21:05 Ej_ wrote: I recently decided to rewatch some 2014 GSL and found that 1 group when TaiLS 4-0'd through RorO and Classic
It was a good day. So that's why RorO retired I assume it was because after winning "Best Zerg of 2013" he knew he had achieved everything. I thought it's because even after winning Best Zerg of 2013 he knew people still didn't love him
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If Impact wins I'll have to fly to Korea and have a chat with oov about ruining all those Liquibets.
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On July 20 2016 21:11 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:10 Phredxor wrote:On July 20 2016 21:05 Durnuu wrote:On July 20 2016 21:05 Ej_ wrote: I recently decided to rewatch some 2014 GSL and found that 1 group when TaiLS 4-0'd through RorO and Classic
It was a good day. So that's why RorO retired I assume it was because after winning "Best Zerg of 2013" he knew he had achieved everything. I thought it's because even after winning Best Zerg of 2013 he knew people still didn't love him I've always loved RorO.
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On July 20 2016 21:12 Elentos wrote: If Impact wins I'll have to fly to Korea and have a chat with oov about ruining all those Liquibets. secret matchfixing to top the LB rankings
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On July 20 2016 21:12 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:11 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 21:10 Phredxor wrote:On July 20 2016 21:05 Durnuu wrote:On July 20 2016 21:05 Ej_ wrote: I recently decided to rewatch some 2014 GSL and found that 1 group when TaiLS 4-0'd through RorO and Classic
It was a good day. So that's why RorO retired I assume it was because after winning "Best Zerg of 2013" he knew he had achieved everything. I thought it's because even after winning Best Zerg of 2013 he knew people still didn't love him I've always loved RorO. me too actually, I liked that he stayed relevant in the first HotS GSL too
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On July 20 2016 21:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:12 Elentos wrote: If Impact wins I'll have to fly to Korea and have a chat with oov about ruining all those Liquibets. secret matchfixing to top the LB rankings Life tried to go pro I guess
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On July 20 2016 21:13 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:12 Ej_ wrote:On July 20 2016 21:11 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 21:10 Phredxor wrote:On July 20 2016 21:05 Durnuu wrote:On July 20 2016 21:05 Ej_ wrote: I recently decided to rewatch some 2014 GSL and found that 1 group when TaiLS 4-0'd through RorO and Classic
It was a good day. So that's why RorO retired I assume it was because after winning "Best Zerg of 2013" he knew he had achieved everything. I thought it's because even after winning Best Zerg of 2013 he knew people still didn't love him I've always loved RorO. me too actually, I liked that he stayed relevant in the first HotS GSL too I liked him a lot too. Samsung was never the same after he retired
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On July 20 2016 21:14 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:13 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 20 2016 21:12 Ej_ wrote:On July 20 2016 21:11 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 21:10 Phredxor wrote:On July 20 2016 21:05 Durnuu wrote:On July 20 2016 21:05 Ej_ wrote: I recently decided to rewatch some 2014 GSL and found that 1 group when TaiLS 4-0'd through RorO and Classic
It was a good day. So that's why RorO retired I assume it was because after winning "Best Zerg of 2013" he knew he had achieved everything. I thought it's because even after winning Best Zerg of 2013 he knew people still didn't love him I've always loved RorO. me too actually, I liked that he stayed relevant in the first HotS GSL too I liked him a lot too. Samsung was never the same after he retired  No RorO, no playoffs.
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Austria24417 Posts
On July 20 2016 21:05 Ej_ wrote: I recently decided to rewatch some 2014 GSL and found that 1 group when TaiLS 4-0'd through RorO and Classic
It was a good day.
Some real gold in those old GSL vods. Never forget Happy's failed proxy 2rax vs 3 hatch
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this is a LB conspiracy initiated by Shellshock
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Impact will get turbo rekt
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Impact should just try to hide baneling busts, nyduses or ravager all-ins every game and hope two of them take TY offguard
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On July 20 2016 21:18 Ej_ wrote: Impact will get turbo rekt I hope so.
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hahah now he expands to the back that he lost to hellions
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On July 20 2016 21:19 Ej_ wrote: hahah now he expands to the back that he lost to hellions I think with drone movements like that he could still get rekt with the back base.
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They still think Impact was gonna nydus before he got scouted. Without a roach warren.
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On July 20 2016 21:20 Elentos wrote: They still think Impact was gonna nydus before he got scouted. Without a roach warren. now he might nydus though
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Surely this nydus is a bad idea?
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glad he cancelled that was bound to be a disaster
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On July 20 2016 21:23 [PkF] Wire wrote: glad he cancelled that was bound to be a disaster he didn't cancel
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Impact forgot to spread creep
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TY hates changelings man, he uses excessive force to kill them.
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On July 20 2016 21:24 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:23 [PkF] Wire wrote: glad he cancelled that was bound to be a disaster he didn't cancel oh I thought he cancelled the network
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On July 20 2016 21:24 Elentos wrote: TY hates changelings man, he uses excessive force to kill them.
That poor SCV almost copped it.
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Impact got uber-rekt in less than a minute
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I want to see Impact's face as he dies to marines without stim.
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TY is literally 10x the player Impact is.
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On July 20 2016 21:25 Phredxor wrote: TY is literally 10x the player Impact is. u really want TY to lose
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Impact managing to survive is already pretty good
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Artosis is trying his best to hype Impact's corpse here.
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On July 20 2016 21:27 Elentos wrote: Artosis is trying his best to hype Impact's corpse here. I mean he did cute things indeed once the game was over
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On July 20 2016 21:28 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:27 Elentos wrote: Artosis is trying his best to hype Impact's corpse here. I mean he did cute things indeed once the game was over Yeah but he was so incredibly dead and Artosis trying to hype that just felt sad.
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Why is Dusk Towers still on the map pool? Gogo TY quick 2-0
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On July 20 2016 21:29 Poopi wrote: Why is Dusk Towers still on the map pool? Gogo TY quick 2-0 Because GSL started when it was still on ladder?
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On July 20 2016 21:29 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:29 Poopi wrote: Why is Dusk Towers still on the map pool? Gogo TY quick 2-0 Because GSL started when it was still on ladder? because people love watching awful shit maps vide Alterzim and Deadwing
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On July 20 2016 21:30 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:29 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 21:29 Poopi wrote: Why is Dusk Towers still on the map pool? Gogo TY quick 2-0 Because GSL started when it was still on ladder? because people love watching awful shit maps vide Alterzim and Deadwing Didn't Alterzim have the only draw in GSL history or some shit?
Yeah Impact is trying to blindcounter the most common build on Frozen.
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this Rapid guy is pretty dank
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On July 20 2016 21:30 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:29 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 21:29 Poopi wrote: Why is Dusk Towers still on the map pool? Gogo TY quick 2-0 Because GSL started when it was still on ladder? because people love watching awful shit maps vide Alterzim and Deadwing oooooh Alterzim I try to forget that map everyday
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On July 20 2016 21:29 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:29 Poopi wrote: Why is Dusk Towers still on the map pool? Gogo TY quick 2-0 Because GSL started when it was still on ladder? Why is that not on ladder anymore?
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On July 20 2016 21:31 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:29 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 21:29 Poopi wrote: Why is Dusk Towers still on the map pool? Gogo TY quick 2-0 Because GSL started when it was still on ladder? Why is that not on ladder anymore? because everyone was getting sick of it. Though I would rather have had it on ladder this season than one of KSS/Frost.
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That techlab could really hurt TY
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On July 20 2016 21:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:31 Poopi wrote:On July 20 2016 21:29 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 21:29 Poopi wrote: Why is Dusk Towers still on the map pool? Gogo TY quick 2-0 Because GSL started when it was still on ladder? Why is that not on ladder anymore? because everyone was getting sick of it. Though I would rather have had it on ladder this season than one of KSS/Frost. I really don't care because I would just veto Dusk over KSS again.
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Is TY planning on losing another silly game by massing reapers? Because I prefer it when he doesn't.
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Aim your biles well, Impact
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pretty cool back and forth :D
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TY is so freaking good now
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the fuck is this? if TY loses this, I'll be 0/2 in LB's
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TY should like... tech and stuff
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Artosis speaks the truth, TY being better than the other terran
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Is Impact the only Zerg who gets pathogen glands?
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On July 20 2016 21:36 Elentos wrote: Is Impact the only Zerg who gets pathogen glands? I also get it, so that makes at least two
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Impact's creep spread is a joke
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France12761 Posts
TY is good at making the opponent think this is a good fight
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TY's TvZ is looking solid
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Roach Ravager seems so weak against a Terran like TY.
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On July 20 2016 21:40 Seedfan wrote: TY's TvZ is looking solid TvZ is looking solid in general.
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On July 20 2016 21:40 Seedfan wrote: TY's TvZ is looking solid
Which Korean Terran doesn't have a solid TvZ atm?
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Impact has the worst ravager control I have seen.
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Impact hit a unit with biles, that's something. Too bad it was his own ultra
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Poll: Recommend final match game 2?If you have time. (3) 43% No. (1) 14% Good game. (1) 14% Great game. (1) 14% One of the best games this season. (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend final match game 2? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
Poll: Recommend final match game 3?Good game. (4) 50% One of the best games this season. (2) 25% No. (1) 13% If you have time. (1) 13% Great game. (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend final match game 3? (Vote): No. (Vote): If you have time. (Vote): Good game. (Vote): Great game. (Vote): One of the best games this season.
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On July 20 2016 21:42 Durnuu wrote: Impact hit a unit with biles, that's something. Too bad it was his own ultra
Baby steps.
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Impact clearly asking for a ravager nerf, showing that bile can one shot multiple ultralisk in a row
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On July 20 2016 21:42 Durnuu wrote: Impact hit a unit with biles, that's something. Too bad it was his own ultra He only hits moving units after all.
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"Unfortunately for Impact, TY was a complete Roadhog" -Artosis
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TY made it out. All is as it should be.
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Nerchio would have won this game
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gg TY nice second game much closer than the other ones. TY gets edges with subtle things, mostly better control overall (ravagers control was quite lackluster from Impact).
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On July 20 2016 21:44 Die4Ever wrote: "Unfortunately for Impact, TY was a complete Roadhog" -Artosis
He hooked Impact and shot him in the face?
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Ravagers in lategame zvt = wut
Also I don't know why impact tried that big attack earlier in the game (the one where TY had a small flank on the high ground). Why not camp until you get ultras?
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On July 20 2016 21:44 Alchemik wrote: Nerchio would have won this game Nerchio would win GSL
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On July 20 2016 21:44 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:44 Die4Ever wrote: "Unfortunately for Impact, TY was a complete Roadhog" -Artosis He hooked Impact and shot him in the face? and then he chugged a healing energy drink
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On July 20 2016 21:44 Alchemik wrote: Nerchio would have won this game
Doubt it, TY is a lot better then some foreign Terran.
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On July 20 2016 21:44 IMPrime wrote: Ravagers in lategame zvt = wut
Also I don't know why impact tried that big attack earlier in the game (the one where TY had a small flank on the high ground). Why not camp until you get ultras? this wasn't even close to being late game ZvT
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"I want more Zergs to advance so I can collect the free wins again"
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ByuL, Dark and Rogue, we believe in you ! Qualify for the Swarm !
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On July 20 2016 21:45 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:44 IMPrime wrote: Ravagers in lategame zvt = wut
Also I don't know why impact tried that big attack earlier in the game (the one where TY had a small flank on the high ground). Why not camp until you get ultras? this wasn't even close to being late game ZvT Ultras were out. You should probably not make ravagers at that point.
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On July 20 2016 21:46 IMPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:45 Alchemik wrote:On July 20 2016 21:44 IMPrime wrote: Ravagers in lategame zvt = wut
Also I don't know why impact tried that big attack earlier in the game (the one where TY had a small flank on the high ground). Why not camp until you get ultras? this wasn't even close to being late game ZvT Ultras were out. You should probably not make ravagers at that point. that is not correct
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On July 20 2016 21:46 IMPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:45 Alchemik wrote:On July 20 2016 21:44 IMPrime wrote: Ravagers in lategame zvt = wut
Also I don't know why impact tried that big attack earlier in the game (the one where TY had a small flank on the high ground). Why not camp until you get ultras? this wasn't even close to being late game ZvT Ultras were out. You should probably not make ravagers at that point. If you have no spire and no ravagers, how do you kill liberators?
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On July 20 2016 21:46 IMPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:45 Alchemik wrote:On July 20 2016 21:44 IMPrime wrote: Ravagers in lategame zvt = wut
Also I don't know why impact tried that big attack earlier in the game (the one where TY had a small flank on the high ground). Why not camp until you get ultras? this wasn't even close to being late game ZvT Ultras were out. You should probably not make ravagers at that point. why? having a couple ravagers is never really bad, especially if you have infestors
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I find it funny that TY is so scared of Protoss, because in macro games he generally looks like the best TvP player in the world by quite a bit.
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Where dat snitch at?36957 Posts
Well... At least you gave it a shot Impact. And hang your head high at the fact that you made it further than soO. Not too surprised at the end results. I was expecting Super to do better though.
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Just this once oov and SKT didn't ruin everyone's Liquibets, crisis averted.
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On July 20 2016 21:46 Ej_ wrote: "I want more Zergs to advance so I can collect the free wins again" Yeah that sounds like.
Dark has a group without Terran, so let's say 1 zerg at least will advance, maybe byul too as his group is easier.
But Rogue probably won't advance with his group.
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On July 20 2016 21:52 Tyrhanius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:46 Ej_ wrote: "I want more Zergs to advance so I can collect the free wins again" Yeah that sounds like. Dark has a group without Terran, so let's say 1 zerg at least will advance, maybe byul too as his group is easier. But Rogue probably won't advance with his group. Honestly from TY it's probably more "Please eliminate the Protoss players" than wanting to collect free wins against Zerg. He has quasi free wins against most Terrans in Code S, too.
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On July 20 2016 20:36 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:35 Darkhorse wrote: Honestly TY should've banked his early damage with the hellions and just played safer. He could've scanned the main and seen blink and the warp prism and had two bunkers in his main by the ridge If you see blink and a prism you still don't know it's an all-in Sorry took me so long to respond I went to work
Of course you can't be sure it's an all in buuuuuut it's more likely after you've killed those probes. Also even if he wasn't sure he could've prepared considering his Econ lead post worker kills gave him an advantage to play with. Basically he didn't have to play as risky as he did given he was ahead and could've prepped for the all in without sacrificing too much
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On July 20 2016 23:49 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 20:36 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 20:35 Darkhorse wrote: Honestly TY should've banked his early damage with the hellions and just played safer. He could've scanned the main and seen blink and the warp prism and had two bunkers in his main by the ridge If you see blink and a prism you still don't know it's an all-in Sorry took me so long to respond I went to work Of course you can't be sure it's an all in buuuuuut it's more likely after you've killed those probes. Also even if he wasn't sure he could've prepared considering his Econ lead post worker kills gave him an advantage to play with. Basically he didn't have to play as risky as he did given he was ahead and could've prepped for the all in without sacrificing too much Yeah but it's sOs, if he sees TY is ready he just gives up the all-in and comes up with a new thing to do.
Also I'm not sure how common blink all-ins in PvT are in Korea at the top level, but considering how not prepared TY was for it I'd assume not many people do them. I think many players would actually just try to macro out of it after losing those 5 probes.
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Damn it Super, why did I bet on you -. -
at least the casting was top-notch. Tastsosis wargs rofl
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Any really good games? Like 8/10 or higher?
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On July 21 2016 05:10 The_Red_Viper wrote: Any really good games? Like 8/10 or higher? 8/10 or higher nah.
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TY is playing and no game was that good? Damn
edit: who am i kidding? TY's games are a must watch regardless^^
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On July 21 2016 05:12 The_Red_Viper wrote: TY is playing and no game was that good? Damn He's too much better than Impact (the games weren't bad per se but not 8/10 or even close) and the best TY vs sOs game IMO was game 1 and that was more like a 7.2/10.
Also I have no idea why the recommendation poll for game 1 of the decider is at 100% "One of the best games this season", it's just Impact dying a very long and painful death while trying really hard to pretend he isn't gonna die.
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Well only 3 people voted, but in general i don't think the polls are a good indicator, too much meta reasoning behind the votes i think. I guess i will just skim through TY's games then
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On July 21 2016 05:19 The_Red_Viper wrote: Well only 3 people voted, but in general i don't think the polls are a good indicator, too much meta reasoning behind the votes i think. I guess i will just skim through TY's games then Yeah just settle for that, probably better.
E: I guess that last TY vs Impact game was actually pretty good though.
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On July 20 2016 21:44 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:44 Die4Ever wrote: "Unfortunately for Impact, TY was a complete Roadhog" -Artosis He hooked Impact and shot him in the face?
"I am a one man apocolypse"
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