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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 14 2016 15:06 GMT
#1101
rip fucking denied
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 14 2016 15:06 GMT
#1102
On May 15 2016 00:06 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 00:05 IntoTheheart wrote:
On May 15 2016 00:04 Poopi wrote:
On May 15 2016 00:02 Fig wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:54 resoLVer1.0 wrote:
Didnt see any notice in the comments about it, so i'll just add some more fuel: Polt in fact lost a building around 4:20 before the tie, but the timer didn't reset because it wasn't the opponent who destroyed it (it died to a burn damage https://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacksc2b/v/66349969 3:40:20). So ye, this game exhibited everything there is about forced tie mechanics. Strange is strange indeed, but one can't deny that everything was going wrong for him in this game. :D

Holy crap! That's terrible that the tie rule doesn't count buildings that burn down. There is no way they don't change this for the next tournament now. Just that alone could have swayed the game by making Strange think he would get more time.

This is really divine intervention for Polt at this point, he has to win the whole thing now

Be funny if he lost 0-3 to uThermal.

Yeah it's either he stop playing badly from now on and does very well, or he crashes and burns

With Polt, you just don't know.
kiss kiss fall in love
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 14 2016 15:07 GMT
#1103
On May 15 2016 00:06 Cricketer12 wrote:
So can someone give me a recap on what happened in cham v bly?

it was like mid master vs progamer
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
May 14 2016 15:07 GMT
#1104
On May 14 2016 23:59 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:56 Elentos wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:53 juvenal wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:50 Elentos wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:48 juvenal wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:47 Elentos wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:46 juvenal wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:44 Elentos wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:42 juvenal wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:36 Poopi wrote:
[quote]
How come?
He just had to bring two void rays instead of one in order to destroy the factory, since anyways his immortal sentry adept force was enough to defend the assimilators. Plus Polt had no idea if he still had those near assimilators.
It was like 95% won for Strange, if you are bad enough not to win in that case you don't deserve the victory.

gratz on forgetting players don't have maphacks.

He knew where the buildings are but not the army. But near the end of the game, there was that situation where he was keeping the army busy with stalkers while 1 voidray attacked the factory. It was almost dead so it got killed before the factory started burning. If he used the full health one, or even both, he would have won right then. Strange dun fucked up.

for all he knew Polt could've had 2 full medivacs only waiting for the voidray to leave to go snipe the assimilators.

He knew it was Polt's entire army. Besides, his assimilators were not undefended, 2 voidrays kill a factory faster than a drop that has to unload and go through a bunch of adepts and an immortal kill 2 assimilators.

how in the hell was he supposed to know if it was his entire army?

Well firstly, because he killed everything else and knows Polt can't rebuild it. But also because if Polt had 2 more full medivacs, he would be using them for something in the situation he was in. Either trying to snipe units, or defending his last remaining buildings. But Polt was only defending his buildings with 1 squad of units.

nah, you're wrong on this one. "He killed everything else" - that's just saying the same, how would he know if he had killed "everything else"? Besides, Polt defending the fac with his tiny force looked suspiciously close to him baiting the attack to go kill the unguarded assimilators.

How would he know? He won a huge army engagement in the middle of the map and then cleaned up the majority of what Polt had left in his main as well. He saw what units escaped. And the assimilators were never unguarded for a single moment, he could have sent out the 2nd voidray with nearly no risk.

If there was a double drop close to the assimilators, it would have gone in the moment Strange started fighting Polt's units with his stalkers.

you're assuming Strange kept it in mind throughout the endgame while hastily making other important decisions.

I'm just saying, he could have won against a hugely favored opponent right there by taking a risk as long as he stays somewhat on top of his defense. Instead, he remained very passive as to not lose right then and there. Which is fine, but he had to have been aware of the threat of a tie and a re-game because of the timer, which is effectively him throwing a game-winning position.

Granted, the in-game tie function shouldn't be active in tournaments, but this time both players played with it in mind so this once we have to live with it.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 15:07:59
May 14 2016 15:07 GMT
#1105
On May 15 2016 00:06 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 00:06 Poopi wrote:
On May 15 2016 00:05 IntoTheheart wrote:
On May 15 2016 00:04 Poopi wrote:
On May 15 2016 00:02 Fig wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:54 resoLVer1.0 wrote:
Didnt see any notice in the comments about it, so i'll just add some more fuel: Polt in fact lost a building around 4:20 before the tie, but the timer didn't reset because it wasn't the opponent who destroyed it (it died to a burn damage https://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacksc2b/v/66349969 3:40:20). So ye, this game exhibited everything there is about forced tie mechanics. Strange is strange indeed, but one can't deny that everything was going wrong for him in this game. :D

Holy crap! That's terrible that the tie rule doesn't count buildings that burn down. There is no way they don't change this for the next tournament now. Just that alone could have swayed the game by making Strange think he would get more time.

This is really divine intervention for Polt at this point, he has to win the whole thing now

Be funny if he lost 0-3 to uThermal.

Yeah it's either he stop playing badly from now on and does very well, or he crashes and burns

With Polt, you just don't know.

He is capable of barely winning against a seemingly way worse opponent, yet winning the whole thing against players who 3-0ed their way to the finals.
He is at his best when underestimated
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 15:09:19
May 14 2016 15:09 GMT
#1106
On May 15 2016 00:03 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 00:02 Fig wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:54 resoLVer1.0 wrote:
Didnt see any notice in the comments about it, so i'll just add some more fuel: Polt in fact lost a building around 4:20 before the tie, but the timer didn't reset because it wasn't the opponent who destroyed it (it died to a burn damage https://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacksc2b/v/66349969 3:40:20). So ye, this game exhibited everything there is about forced tie mechanics. Strange is strange indeed, but one can't deny that everything was going wrong for him in this game. :D

Holy crap! That's terrible that the tie rule doesn't count buildings that burn down. There is no way they don't change this for the next tournament now. Just that alone could have swayed the game by making Strange think he would get more time.

classic untested feature. And not very clever programming.

It's even on the Liquipedia page so I doubt this is unintentional tbh. Certainly not untested.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
superfluousman1994
Profile Joined April 2016
11 Posts
May 14 2016 15:09 GMT
#1107
On May 14 2016 23:54 resoLVer1.0 wrote:
Didnt see any notice in the comments about it, so i'll just add some more fuel: Polt in fact lost a building around 4:20 before the tie, but the timer didn't reset because it wasn't the opponent who destroyed it (it died to a burn damage https://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacksc2b/v/66349969 3:40:20). So ye, this game exhibited everything there is about forced tie mechanics. Strange is strange indeed, but one can't deny that everything was going wrong for him in this game. :D

Isn't it a 3 minute timer?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
May 14 2016 15:09 GMT
#1108
wtf Drogo
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45708 Posts
May 14 2016 15:09 GMT
#1109
Bunny 3-1, wp!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 14 2016 15:10 GMT
#1110
Wut ? tank is good ? madnesssssssss
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13995 Posts
May 14 2016 15:10 GMT
#1111
Rip drogo
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
May 14 2016 15:10 GMT
#1112
On May 15 2016 00:09 superfluousman1994 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:54 resoLVer1.0 wrote:
Didnt see any notice in the comments about it, so i'll just add some more fuel: Polt in fact lost a building around 4:20 before the tie, but the timer didn't reset because it wasn't the opponent who destroyed it (it died to a burn damage https://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacksc2b/v/66349969 3:40:20). So ye, this game exhibited everything there is about forced tie mechanics. Strange is strange indeed, but one can't deny that everything was going wrong for him in this game. :D

Isn't it a 3 minute timer?

After 3 minutes of nothing happening, the 3 minute draw timer starts. So basically if burn damage counted Strange would have had another minute and 40 seconds.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
May 14 2016 15:10 GMT
#1113
Well played Bunny
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 14 2016 15:10 GMT
#1114
once again, firegod the savior
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
May 14 2016 15:10 GMT
#1115
On May 15 2016 00:05 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:58 Poopi wrote:
Sad to see such bad micro from Bunny :x


Compare to drogos micro hes a God, watching those disrupters run into Bunnys bio was painful to watch


Yeah rooting for drogo but his pvt is just painful, copying a Zest build would probably more effective even if you dont have his skill, rather than going robo bay 2 disruptors into archon chargelot into suicide at bunnys natural...
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
May 14 2016 15:10 GMT
#1116
sorry Drogo
Writermaru pls
BeyondCtrL
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden642 Posts
May 14 2016 15:10 GMT
#1117
Drogo just taking so many horrible engagements...
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 14 2016 15:11 GMT
#1118
drogo gotta pissed, losing on home turf

ah well, that's the name of the game
maru lover forever
Railgan
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland1507 Posts
May 14 2016 15:11 GMT
#1119
When was the last time Drogo won something?
Grandmaster Zerg from Switzerland!!! www.twitch.tv/railgan // www.twitter.com/railgansc // www.youtube.com/c/railgansc
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 15:12:28
May 14 2016 15:11 GMT
#1120
On May 15 2016 00:06 Cricketer12 wrote:
So can someone give me a recap on what happened in cham v bly?


Game one Cham broke the rock in the desert map again a early attack from bly (I don't remember the name) and then kill him with roach and queen again Bly who went muta from behind.
Game two on Ulreana Bly also did an early attack that Cham defended and then he counter attack with like 13 Queen on 2 base with spine crawler to kill the natural (it was hilarious)
Game three I don't saw the start but it seems like Cham just did an early pool and kill him.
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