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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45698 Posts
May 14 2016 14:56 GMT
#1061
Drogo overextended wayyy too far. gg.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 14 2016 14:56 GMT
#1062
drogod why do you do this
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
May 14 2016 14:56 GMT
#1063
On May 14 2016 23:53 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:52 fezvez wrote:
That was quality bullshit from Cham

dunno man, he just held the all-in very well and then went for it. Clean game and wp.

Absolutely, he deserves the win

But 9 queen and 2 spines crossing the map was a nice sight to behold
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 14:59:44
May 14 2016 14:56 GMT
#1064
On May 14 2016 23:53 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:50 Elentos wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:48 juvenal wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:47 Elentos wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:46 juvenal wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:44 Elentos wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:42 juvenal wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:36 Poopi wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:32 NarutO wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:29 Poopi wrote:
[quote]
Wtf it's not about manners, it's a legitimate strategy (the only one available for Polt) to play for a draw. It was still super easy for Strange to win it but he was too scared to do it.
If you want people not to play for draws you actually have to state it beforehands or change or the game is designed.

You could say "hey this guy is not very mannered because he takes a strong race" but it's not a matter of manners it's a matter of integrity / trying to win.
If Polt forfeited it would have been like a fix because he earned the right to do a rematch.


Seemingly you dont understand. The game wasn't won to begin with when the situation occured. If Strange rushed it, he could have very well lost it. So saying "Strange was too slow to generate the win" is uncalled for as the result might have been a Polt victory to begin with.

Its beautiful to see someone work for a win and take risks etc, but forcing a draw mechanically on a player after he won is kind of pointless. I cant change the situation but I pretty much can guarantee that there won't be a draw-timer in the custom games after Tours.

How come?
He just had to bring two void rays instead of one in order to destroy the factory, since anyways his immortal sentry adept force was enough to defend the assimilators. Plus Polt had no idea if he still had those near assimilators.
It was like 95% won for Strange, if you are bad enough not to win in that case you don't deserve the victory.

gratz on forgetting players don't have maphacks.

He knew where the buildings are but not the army. But near the end of the game, there was that situation where he was keeping the army busy with stalkers while 1 voidray attacked the factory. It was almost dead so it got killed before the factory started burning. If he used the full health one, or even both, he would have won right then. Strange dun fucked up.

for all he knew Polt could've had 2 full medivacs only waiting for the voidray to leave to go snipe the assimilators.

He knew it was Polt's entire army. Besides, his assimilators were not undefended, 2 voidrays kill a factory faster than a drop that has to unload and go through a bunch of adepts and an immortal kill 2 assimilators.

how in the hell was he supposed to know if it was his entire army?

Well firstly, because he killed everything else and knows Polt can't rebuild it. But also because if Polt had 2 more full medivacs, he would be using them for something in the situation he was in. Either trying to snipe units, or defending his last remaining buildings. But Polt was only defending his buildings with 1 squad of units.

nah, you're wrong on this one. "He killed everything else" - that's just saying the same, how would he know if he had killed "everything else"? Besides, Polt defending the fac with his tiny force looked suspiciously close to him baiting the attack to go kill the unguarded assimilators.

How would he know? He won a huge army engagement in the middle of the map and then cleaned up the majority of what Polt had left in his main as well. He saw what units escaped. And the assimilators were never unguarded for a single moment, he could have sent out the 2nd voidray with nearly no risk (or send the full health one instead of the nearly dead one to ensure that the factory burns down).

If there was a double drop close to the assimilators, it would have gone in the moment Strange started fighting Polt's units with his stalkers.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
May 14 2016 14:58 GMT
#1065
Sad to see such bad micro from Bunny :x
WriterMaru
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 14 2016 14:58 GMT
#1066
On May 14 2016 23:56 fezvez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:53 Ej_ wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:52 fezvez wrote:
That was quality bullshit from Cham

dunno man, he just held the all-in very well and then went for it. Clean game and wp.

Absolutely, he deserves the win

But 9 queen and 2 spines crossing the map was a nice sight to behold

I've lost to a mass slowling/spine/queen all-in on Ulrena once after overdroning post 13/12 so I feel for Bly
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 14 2016 14:58 GMT
#1067
no micro from drogo all of his disruptors die on the front line
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 14 2016 14:58 GMT
#1068
ok Cham just owned Bly wow
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
May 14 2016 14:59 GMT
#1069
awesome series by Bly
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
May 14 2016 14:59 GMT
#1070
Bly is super not-on-fire atm.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
May 14 2016 14:59 GMT
#1071
The Danish pain train!!!
~~(,,ºº>
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
May 14 2016 14:59 GMT
#1072
Cham really outplayed Bly
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 15:00:04
May 14 2016 14:59 GMT
#1073
PtitDrogo goes for some bad trades and loses disruptors for nothing. If Bunny goes to school, then PtitDrogo isn't supposed to have a hard time when he is full time pro.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10112 Posts
May 14 2016 14:59 GMT
#1074
CHAMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
May 14 2016 14:59 GMT
#1075
On May 14 2016 23:56 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:53 juvenal wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:50 Elentos wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:48 juvenal wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:47 Elentos wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:46 juvenal wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:44 Elentos wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:42 juvenal wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:36 Poopi wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:32 NarutO wrote:
[quote]

Seemingly you dont understand. The game wasn't won to begin with when the situation occured. If Strange rushed it, he could have very well lost it. So saying "Strange was too slow to generate the win" is uncalled for as the result might have been a Polt victory to begin with.

Its beautiful to see someone work for a win and take risks etc, but forcing a draw mechanically on a player after he won is kind of pointless. I cant change the situation but I pretty much can guarantee that there won't be a draw-timer in the custom games after Tours.

How come?
He just had to bring two void rays instead of one in order to destroy the factory, since anyways his immortal sentry adept force was enough to defend the assimilators. Plus Polt had no idea if he still had those near assimilators.
It was like 95% won for Strange, if you are bad enough not to win in that case you don't deserve the victory.

gratz on forgetting players don't have maphacks.

He knew where the buildings are but not the army. But near the end of the game, there was that situation where he was keeping the army busy with stalkers while 1 voidray attacked the factory. It was almost dead so it got killed before the factory started burning. If he used the full health one, or even both, he would have won right then. Strange dun fucked up.

for all he knew Polt could've had 2 full medivacs only waiting for the voidray to leave to go snipe the assimilators.

He knew it was Polt's entire army. Besides, his assimilators were not undefended, 2 voidrays kill a factory faster than a drop that has to unload and go through a bunch of adepts and an immortal kill 2 assimilators.

how in the hell was he supposed to know if it was his entire army?

Well firstly, because he killed everything else and knows Polt can't rebuild it. But also because if Polt had 2 more full medivacs, he would be using them for something in the situation he was in. Either trying to snipe units, or defending his last remaining buildings. But Polt was only defending his buildings with 1 squad of units.

nah, you're wrong on this one. "He killed everything else" - that's just saying the same, how would he know if he had killed "everything else"? Besides, Polt defending the fac with his tiny force looked suspiciously close to him baiting the attack to go kill the unguarded assimilators.

How would he know? He won a huge army engagement in the middle of the map and then cleaned up the majority of what Polt had left in his main as well. He saw what units escaped. And the assimilators were never unguarded for a single moment, he could have sent out the 2nd voidray with nearly no risk.

If there was a double drop close to the assimilators, it would have gone in the moment Strange started fighting Polt's units with his stalkers.

you're assuming Strange kept it in mind throughout the endgame while hastily making other important decisions.
Michael Probu
Poopfeast 024
Profile Joined November 2014
Gambia437 Posts
May 14 2016 15:00 GMT
#1076
Is maynarde sitting, or is he like 150 cm
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 14 2016 15:00 GMT
#1077
i've literally never heard of cham, but good that he beats bly!
maru lover forever
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
May 14 2016 15:00 GMT
#1078
Drogo decision making in pvt is horrendous
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 14 2016 15:00 GMT
#1079
Good job Cham! I think JimRising also have a shot against Violet 2 Mexican would be awesome.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
May 14 2016 15:01 GMT
#1080
On May 14 2016 23:59 Shield wrote:
PtitDrogo goes for some bad trades and loses disruptors for nothing. If Bunny goes to school, then PtitDrogo isn't supposed to have a hard time when he is full time pro.

Drogo and PvT is not a story of love.
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