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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 19:21:33
May 31 2016 19:20 GMT
#341
Triple proxy rax marauder is that a thing now?

edit: guess not
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 19:22:05
May 31 2016 19:20 GMT
#342
With the in-base natural and the almost non-existent cliff surface area, Flame Juggler seems like one of the worse reaper maps.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
May 31 2016 19:22 GMT
#343
On June 01 2016 04:20 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Triple proxy rax marauder is that a thing now?

edit: guess not

You couldn't really afford 3 rax rauder with 12 workers in HotS so yeah, that wasn't gonna work.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
May 31 2016 19:22 GMT
#344
Expected a reaper rush so went pool first and he tried to go marauders thats all
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
May 31 2016 19:23 GMT
#345
On June 01 2016 04:22 Nerchio wrote:
Expected a reaper rush so went pool first and he tried to go marauders thats all

Is that your typical ladder experience against uThermal?
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
May 31 2016 19:35 GMT
#346
On June 01 2016 04:23 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2016 04:22 Nerchio wrote:
Expected a reaper rush so went pool first and he tried to go marauders thats all

Is that your typical ladder experience against uThermal?

Well he likes reapers I guess everyone knows that
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Fatam
Profile Joined June 2012
1986 Posts
May 31 2016 19:36 GMT
#347
As the mapmaker I was definitely confused when he tried 3 rax reaper on that map! It's probably the worst possible map ever to do it on (although reapers can be good in other ways on the map).

Still, nice to have cheeses tested to make sure there aren't any exploits.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 31 2016 19:40 GMT
#348
On June 01 2016 04:36 Fatam wrote:
As the mapmaker I was definitely confused when he tried 3 rax reaper on that map! It's probably the worst possible map ever to do it on (although reapers can be good in other ways on the map).

Still, nice to have cheeses tested to make sure there aren't any exploits.


Yeah. Definitely agree. Arkanoid is the only map I can think of where reapers would be worse.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 31 2016 19:41 GMT
#349
On June 01 2016 04:36 Fatam wrote:
As the mapmaker I was definitely confused when he tried 3 rax reaper on that map! It's probably the worst possible map ever to do it on (although reapers can be good in other ways on the map).

Still, nice to have cheeses tested to make sure there aren't any exploits.


Interestingly. Nerchio wasn't surprised (as he himself noted here). It was probably kinda meta-metagame, where uThermal tried to do it on the least expected map, but was called on the bluff anyway.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 19:45:51
May 31 2016 19:43 GMT
#350
On June 01 2016 04:41 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2016 04:36 Fatam wrote:
As the mapmaker I was definitely confused when he tried 3 rax reaper on that map! It's probably the worst possible map ever to do it on (although reapers can be good in other ways on the map).

Still, nice to have cheeses tested to make sure there aren't any exploits.


Interestingly. Nerchio wasn't surprised (as he himself noted here). It was probably kinda meta-metagame, where uThermal tried to do it on the least expected map, but was called on the bluff anyway.


uThermal probably just went "Fuck it, reapers." despite the map being awful for it, and Nerchio just knows him well enough to call it.

edit: Also none of the maps left are particularly good reaper maps imo, though Korhal Killzone and Namaste are better than Flame Juggler.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 31 2016 19:48 GMT
#351
I'd veto this map on ladder just because of the bad creep blending. Central protocol all over again.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
May 31 2016 19:51 GMT
#352
Another abusable TvZ map ;p impossible to stop attack through that choke
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 31 2016 19:55 GMT
#353
On June 01 2016 04:48 opisska wrote:
I'd veto this map on ladder just because of the bad creep blending. Central protocol all over again.


I'd veto that map because the terrain near the third and gold is incredibly abusive, and because the bottom of the map is incredibly irrelevant and weirdly spaced out.

The creep blending thing is really easy to fix if the mapmaker wants to.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 31 2016 19:58 GMT
#354
On June 01 2016 04:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2016 04:48 opisska wrote:
I'd veto this map on ladder just because of the bad creep blending. Central protocol all over again.


I'd veto that map because the terrain near the third and gold is incredibly abusive, and because the bottom of the map is incredibly irrelevant and weirdly spaced out.

The creep blending thing is really easy to fix if the mapmaker wants to.


But it never happened on Central protocol. I couldn't even see where my workers are on that map, it was really terrible.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-31 20:02:50
May 31 2016 20:01 GMT
#355
On June 01 2016 04:58 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2016 04:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 01 2016 04:48 opisska wrote:
I'd veto this map on ladder just because of the bad creep blending. Central protocol all over again.


I'd veto that map because the terrain near the third and gold is incredibly abusive, and because the bottom of the map is incredibly irrelevant and weirdly spaced out.

The creep blending thing is really easy to fix if the mapmaker wants to.


But it never happened on Central protocol. I couldn't even see where my workers are on that map, it was really terrible.


Well you can edit your variables.txt to fix it for you only. Or in this case angrily tweet @SC2_avex so that he fixes it on Namaste.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 31 2016 20:06 GMT
#356
On June 01 2016 05:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2016 04:58 opisska wrote:
On June 01 2016 04:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 01 2016 04:48 opisska wrote:
I'd veto this map on ladder just because of the bad creep blending. Central protocol all over again.


I'd veto that map because the terrain near the third and gold is incredibly abusive, and because the bottom of the map is incredibly irrelevant and weirdly spaced out.

The creep blending thing is really easy to fix if the mapmaker wants to.


But it never happened on Central protocol. I couldn't even see where my workers are on that map, it was really terrible.


Well you can edit your variables.txt to fix it for you only. Or in this case angrily tweet @SC2_avex so that he fixes it on Namaste.


This is getting a little bit offtopic, but can you tell me what exactly to edit in varibales to fix this particular issue? It would make my life brighter
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 31 2016 20:09 GMT
#357
Godchio 10-5s the best foreign Terran after he says it's his worst matchup. EZ
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 31 2016 20:09 GMT
#358
On June 01 2016 05:09 Shellshock wrote:
Godchio 10-5s the best foreign Terran after he says it's his worst matchup. EZ

i mean it is his worst match up
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 31 2016 20:09 GMT
#359
On June 01 2016 05:06 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2016 05:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 01 2016 04:58 opisska wrote:
On June 01 2016 04:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 01 2016 04:48 opisska wrote:
I'd veto this map on ladder just because of the bad creep blending. Central protocol all over again.


I'd veto that map because the terrain near the third and gold is incredibly abusive, and because the bottom of the map is incredibly irrelevant and weirdly spaced out.

The creep blending thing is really easy to fix if the mapmaker wants to.


But it never happened on Central protocol. I couldn't even see where my workers are on that map, it was really terrible.


Well you can edit your variables.txt to fix it for you only. Or in this case angrily tweet @SC2_avex so that he fixes it on Namaste.


This is getting a little bit offtopic, but can you tell me what exactly to edit in varibales to fix this particular issue? It would make my life brighter


I think you can set creepnormalmap to 1 (or zero if you want no animations whatsoever)
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 31 2016 20:10 GMT
#360
On June 01 2016 05:09 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2016 05:09 Shellshock wrote:
Godchio 10-5s the best foreign Terran after he says it's his worst matchup. EZ

i mean it is his worst match up


I am really proud to make myself his countryman soon
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