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[SPL '16] Round 1 Playoffs - Jin Air vs KT Rolster - Page 44

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Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
March 22 2016 18:05 GMT
#861
Although it seems counter intuitive Phoenix openings are not actually good against Overlord drops at all. You don't have enough Phoenix out at that timing to kill the Overlords quickly enough, and the investment into air units means you have next to nothing on the ground and need your wall to defend. If the zerg units get inside your base you are in big trouble. You also can't be everywhere with the Phoenix at once, those drops can come in from so many angles, and patrolling the outskirts of your base is a complete waste of the Phoenixes if drops are not coming and can cause you to fall behind economically or fail to scout out some other impending all-in. It might actually make sense to open with a Void Ray first which hangs around to clear out nearby Overlords and stray lings while rallying the followup Phoenixes directly to the Zerg base to see what is going on. The Void Ray is also a lot more useful against other ground based aggression.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 18:28:46
March 22 2016 18:15 GMT
#862
HooHooH
Profile Joined January 2015
165 Posts
March 22 2016 18:24 GMT
#863
rogue is such a bullshit player
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55579 Posts
March 22 2016 18:26 GMT
#864
On March 23 2016 03:24 HooHooH wrote:
rogue is such a bullshit player

I'm sure appreciates the compliment.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 22 2016 18:47 GMT
#865
Damn Rogue. Guess that's why he wasn't sent out on Ulrena.

Hopefully Jin Air can actually put up a fight against SKT.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
March 22 2016 19:11 GMT
#866
Damn shame KT didn't win, but that was one of the best team league matches I've seen. Definitely the best in Lotv so far.
Flash | Mvp
Caspas
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany157 Posts
March 22 2016 19:46 GMT
#867
Serious question:
Haven't I just recently seen a nydus being completely surrounded with units not being able to release any units? Wouldn't this have been a thing? Can warping pylons reduce the surface area on the nydus units are needed for?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55579 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 19:54:03
March 22 2016 19:53 GMT
#868
On March 23 2016 04:46 Caspas wrote:
Serious question:
Haven't I just recently seen a nydus being completely surrounded with units not being able to release any units? Wouldn't this have been a thing? Can warping pylons reduce the surface area on the nydus units are needed for?

Honestly, I find the behavior of units exiting the nydus inconsistent. The game you're referring to is probably Solar vs Forte in Proleague, where Forte got a full surround with workers and no units came out of the nydus. But I've also seen units leave a nydus despite a full surround, and units jump out of the nydus over a building. Because reasons.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Chant1
Profile Joined June 2015
37 Posts
March 22 2016 20:36 GMT
#869
Maru fanboy right here!
Maru is most excited pro gamer to watch.
I think Maru got little bit tired after 2 very hard games.
Maru for presidents for his multitasking and micro.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9438 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 20:55:51
March 22 2016 20:55 GMT
#870
Ty vs Maru must be biggest throw of PL this year. Ty just had to load all of the siege tanks into the main and clump them out for the guaranteed win. He had like 30 seconds to do that and didn't have to do anything else (but prepare for a potential counterbase (?)) over that period.

Instead he had the tanks spread way too thinly so Ty only had like 2 tanks attacking as Maru stimmed up the ramp.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 22 2016 21:49 GMT
#871
On March 23 2016 05:55 Hider wrote:
Ty vs Maru must be biggest throw of PL this year. Ty just had to load all of the siege tanks into the main and clump them out for the guaranteed win. He had like 30 seconds to do that and didn't have to do anything else (but prepare for a potential counterbase (?)) over that period.

Instead he had the tanks spread way too thinly so Ty only had like 2 tanks attacking as Maru stimmed up the ramp.

Honestly, that's not how Terrans play. The usual Terran goes tunnel vision against anyone - usually Protoss. "I will sacrifice my whole army for your Nexus, BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA" and then the Terran dies with superior economy but no army. This was kinda similar.

I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Shankapotamus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States428 Posts
March 22 2016 23:39 GMT
#872
On March 23 2016 06:49 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2016 05:55 Hider wrote:
Ty vs Maru must be biggest throw of PL this year. Ty just had to load all of the siege tanks into the main and clump them out for the guaranteed win. He had like 30 seconds to do that and didn't have to do anything else (but prepare for a potential counterbase (?)) over that period.

Instead he had the tanks spread way too thinly so Ty only had like 2 tanks attacking as Maru stimmed up the ramp.

Honestly, that's not how Terrans play. The usual Terran goes tunnel vision against anyone - usually Protoss. "I will sacrifice my whole army for your Nexus, BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA" and then the Terran dies with superior economy but no army. This was kinda similar.



Looks like somebody tryna start a race war 4Head

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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
March 22 2016 23:49 GMT
#873
Such fun games! Rogue is my hero, yet again (always)
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55579 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-23 00:11:02
March 23 2016 00:06 GMT
#874
On March 23 2016 05:55 Hider wrote:
Ty vs Maru must be biggest throw of PL this year. Ty just had to load all of the siege tanks into the main and clump them out for the guaranteed win. He had like 30 seconds to do that and didn't have to do anything else (but prepare for a potential counterbase (?)) over that period.

Instead he had the tanks spread way too thinly so Ty only had like 2 tanks attacking as Maru stimmed up the ramp.

Yeah, it was a huge throw. But I'm adamant Dear vs Maru was worse. aLive vs Stats the day before was also worse in my book.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 23 2016 06:06 GMT
#875
On March 23 2016 09:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2016 05:55 Hider wrote:
Ty vs Maru must be biggest throw of PL this year. Ty just had to load all of the siege tanks into the main and clump them out for the guaranteed win. He had like 30 seconds to do that and didn't have to do anything else (but prepare for a potential counterbase (?)) over that period.

Instead he had the tanks spread way too thinly so Ty only had like 2 tanks attacking as Maru stimmed up the ramp.

Yeah, it was a huge throw. But I'm adamant Dear vs Maru was worse. aLive vs Stats the day before was also worse in my book.


Dear vs Maru easily #1. That was god awful. I feel like even someone at my level wouldn't try do what Dear did.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17736 Posts
March 23 2016 23:03 GMT
#876
I got a friend in Korea who wants to go see the round 1 final match this week. Is this the correct address?

54 Seocho-daero 77-gil, Seocho-gu, Seoul, South Korea
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
March 24 2016 15:40 GMT
#877
Rogue wiping the smugness off Zest's face, what a pleasure to watch.
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