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On March 22 2016 23:53 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2016 23:49 royalroadweed wrote:On March 22 2016 23:27 Diabolique wrote:On March 22 2016 23:25 IntoTheheart wrote:On March 22 2016 23:24 Diabolique wrote:On March 22 2016 23:16 IntoTheheart wrote:On March 22 2016 23:12 Silvana wrote:On March 22 2016 22:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Great news for SKT  Indeed. I think we are the only one who can possibly defeat SKT. It seems that SKT < KT < JAGW < SKT. Which would be a nice balance but SKT is OP these days... Kespa should call David Kim. We'll probably 0-4. Maru can beat anyone from SKT except the two Zergs. Who could beat the two Zergs? Actually, I am not sure. sOs could beat anyone, but he could also lose to anyone. Rogue used to be good, ZvZ is a bit random, but Dark will have the training from SSL ... well, we will probably not find any weapon against these two Zergs :-( I honestly would like us to take it to the ace match but I'm not that confident in victory. I think we'll have to lead with Maru, and save $O$ for a snipe or something but not rely on him to AK? I agree with saving sOs for later, but what is they start with Dark or soO? Then, it would be a very tough match. Maybe, we should start with Cure? And maybe, with some miracle, he could beat a Zerg ... Trap maybe? He has a great record vs dark. soO is problem though. Trap used to be very good at it, but it's now LotV, and his style of PvZ isn't really a thing anymore. Similarly, Cure always did well against Dark in HotS and poorly against soO. So many things have changed in LotV, who knows how they match up now?
Either way I'm not that worried. As long as we make it to the finals this coming year, we'l be fine.
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Awesome, Jin Air has a chance for another second place round.
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I think the biggest issue for SKT might actually be Rogue. He has really upped his play (esp. against Terran) since his exit from GSL (well, so has Maru) and he's got good enough ZvZ to beat Dark and soO.
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On March 23 2016 00:02 Elentos wrote:
I think the biggest issue for SKT might actually be Rogue. He has really upped his play since his exit from GSL (well, so has Maru). And he's got good enough ZvZ to beat soO more than once.
That being said, it's still coach iloveoov that we need to worry about - his crazy X-factor. He's also stated that his personal pet project is to get soO to win a big championship.
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On March 23 2016 00:03 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 00:02 Elentos wrote:
I think the biggest issue for SKT might actually be Rogue. He has really upped his play since his exit from GSL (well, so has Maru). And he's got good enough ZvZ to beat soO more than once. That being said, it's still coach iloveoov that we need to worry about - his crazy X-factor. He's also stated that his personal pet project is to get soO to win a big championship.
He will teach Zoun a few dirty all-ins nobody knows yet and have him all-kill Jin Air. Just to mess with everyone.
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On March 23 2016 00:07 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 00:03 IntoTheheart wrote:On March 23 2016 00:02 Elentos wrote:
I think the biggest issue for SKT might actually be Rogue. He has really upped his play since his exit from GSL (well, so has Maru). And he's got good enough ZvZ to beat soO more than once. That being said, it's still coach iloveoov that we need to worry about - his crazy X-factor. He's also stated that his personal pet project is to get soO to win a big championship. He will teach Zoun a few dirty all-ins nobody knows yet and have him all-kill Jin Air. Just to mess with everyone.
I bet you he already knows every build order, and has figured out mech but didn't bother to tell it to anyone for his surprise comeback run where he wins a GSL undefeated.
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On March 23 2016 00:09 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 00:07 Elentos wrote:On March 23 2016 00:03 IntoTheheart wrote:On March 23 2016 00:02 Elentos wrote:
I think the biggest issue for SKT might actually be Rogue. He has really upped his play since his exit from GSL (well, so has Maru). And he's got good enough ZvZ to beat soO more than once. That being said, it's still coach iloveoov that we need to worry about - his crazy X-factor. He's also stated that his personal pet project is to get soO to win a big championship. He will teach Zoun a few dirty all-ins nobody knows yet and have him all-kill Jin Air. Just to mess with everyone. I bet you he already knows every build order, and has figured out mech but didn't bother to tell it to anyone for his surprise comeback run where he wins a GSL undefeated.
He has actually figured out every matchup, he is just working on his mechanics with each race atm so his GSL winning undefeated run as a Random player will be easier.
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On March 22 2016 23:55 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2016 23:53 Elentos wrote:On March 22 2016 23:49 royalroadweed wrote:On March 22 2016 23:27 Diabolique wrote:On March 22 2016 23:25 IntoTheheart wrote:On March 22 2016 23:24 Diabolique wrote:On March 22 2016 23:16 IntoTheheart wrote:On March 22 2016 23:12 Silvana wrote:On March 22 2016 22:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Great news for SKT Indeed. I think we are the only one who can possibly defeat SKT. It seems that SKT < KT < JAGW < SKT. Which would be a nice balance but SKT is OP these days... Kespa should call David Kim. We'll probably 0-4. Maru can beat anyone from SKT except the two Zergs. Who could beat the two Zergs? Actually, I am not sure. sOs could beat anyone, but he could also lose to anyone. Rogue used to be good, ZvZ is a bit random, but Dark will have the training from SSL ... well, we will probably not find any weapon against these two Zergs :-( I honestly would like us to take it to the ace match but I'm not that confident in victory. I think we'll have to lead with Maru, and save $O$ for a snipe or something but not rely on him to AK? I agree with saving sOs for later, but what is they start with Dark or soO? Then, it would be a very tough match. Maybe, we should start with Cure? And maybe, with some miracle, he could beat a Zerg ... Trap maybe? He has a great record vs dark. soO is problem though. Trap used to be very good at it, but it's now LotV, and his style of PvZ isn't really a thing anymore. Similarly, Cure always did well against Dark in HotS and poorly against soO. So many things have changed in LotV, who knows how they match up now? Either way I'm not that worried. As long as we make it to the finals this coming year, we'l be fine.
After all those crushing 2nd places last year I think another 2nd place will break us.
TY vs Maru was great. TY must have the highest number of 5 and 4 star games since lotv release.
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On March 23 2016 00:32 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2016 23:55 IntoTheheart wrote:On March 22 2016 23:53 Elentos wrote:On March 22 2016 23:49 royalroadweed wrote:On March 22 2016 23:27 Diabolique wrote:On March 22 2016 23:25 IntoTheheart wrote:On March 22 2016 23:24 Diabolique wrote:On March 22 2016 23:16 IntoTheheart wrote:On March 22 2016 23:12 Silvana wrote:On March 22 2016 22:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Great news for SKT Indeed. I think we are the only one who can possibly defeat SKT. It seems that SKT < KT < JAGW < SKT. Which would be a nice balance but SKT is OP these days... Kespa should call David Kim. We'll probably 0-4. Maru can beat anyone from SKT except the two Zergs. Who could beat the two Zergs? Actually, I am not sure. sOs could beat anyone, but he could also lose to anyone. Rogue used to be good, ZvZ is a bit random, but Dark will have the training from SSL ... well, we will probably not find any weapon against these two Zergs :-( I honestly would like us to take it to the ace match but I'm not that confident in victory. I think we'll have to lead with Maru, and save $O$ for a snipe or something but not rely on him to AK? I agree with saving sOs for later, but what is they start with Dark or soO? Then, it would be a very tough match. Maybe, we should start with Cure? And maybe, with some miracle, he could beat a Zerg ... Trap maybe? He has a great record vs dark. soO is problem though. Trap used to be very good at it, but it's now LotV, and his style of PvZ isn't really a thing anymore. Similarly, Cure always did well against Dark in HotS and poorly against soO. So many things have changed in LotV, who knows how they match up now? Either way I'm not that worried. As long as we make it to the finals this coming year, we'l be fine. After all those crushing 2nd places last year I think another 2nd place will break us.
I doubt it. You got broken last year after taking 2nd place 3 rounds in a row, then bounced back just in time to get 2nd place overall in the Grand Finals. Don't think a 2nd place this round would shatter the team.
Although maybe then KT could finally beat Jin Air in all-kill. 0-5 right now 
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Ouch KT lost that sucks -.-
TY lost also, meh
Well nvm, i kinda like JinAir too 
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Even as a CJ fan I am happy to see Maru and Rogue back in form
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On March 23 2016 00:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:Ouch KT lost that sucks -.- TY lost also, meh Well nvm, i kinda like JinAir too
You must watch the games!!!! They were sooooooo good!!! Maru destroying Stats ... an excellent game Maru vs. TY for the best terran on Earth ... and the last Zest vs Rogue - a delight! :-)
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For the record, I've counted it out. KT is 0-5 in all-kill vs Jin Air.
For people who forget that Maru is actually the bane of KT Rolster and only focus on that one time sOs reverse all-killed them.
 Maru vs KT in all-kill
3 kills
3 kills
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3 kills
Maru averages 2.6 kills against KT. The highest for KT vs Jin Air is  Zest at 1.2 kills per match. It's hilariously one-sided.
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On March 23 2016 01:03 Elentos wrote:For the record, I've counted it out. KT is 0-5 in all-kill vs Jin Air. For people who forget that Maru is actually the bane of KT Rolster and only focus on that one time sOs reverse all-killed them. Maru vs KT in all-kill3 kills 3 kills all-kill no kills 3 kills Maru averages 2.6 kills against KT. The highest for KT vs Jin Air is Zest at 1.2 kills per match. It's hilariously one-sided.
Pretty impressive!
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On March 23 2016 00:54 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 00:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:Ouch KT lost that sucks -.- TY lost also, meh Well nvm, i kinda like JinAir too You must watch the games!!!! They were sooooooo good!!! Maru destroying Stats ... an excellent game Maru vs. TY for the best terran on Earth ... and the last Zest vs Rogue - a delight! :-)
Hm is that a biased opinion or an actual legit one? :D
I guess i will watch them no matter what though, JinAir vs KT has to be good i think^^
On March 23 2016 01:03 Elentos wrote:For the record, I've counted it out. KT is 0-5 in all-kill vs Jin Air. For people who forget that Maru is actually the bane of KT Rolster and only focus on that one time sOs reverse all-killed them. Maru vs KT in all-kill3 kills 3 kills all-kill no kills 3 kills Maru averages 2.6 kills against KT. The highest for KT vs Jin Air is Zest at 1.2 kills per match. It's hilariously one-sided.
Maru is simply a beast, i am still sad that he had to play vs Zest in code a. Maru is always one of the best terrans, i think he might be the best terran ever tbh
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On March 23 2016 01:11 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 01:03 Elentos wrote:For the record, I've counted it out. KT is 0-5 in all-kill vs Jin Air. For people who forget that Maru is actually the bane of KT Rolster and only focus on that one time sOs reverse all-killed them. Maru vs KT in all-kill3 kills 3 kills all-kill no kills 3 kills Maru averages 2.6 kills against KT. The highest for KT vs Jin Air is Zest at 1.2 kills per match. It's hilariously one-sided. Pretty impressive!
It is also 1.0 kills above Maru's Proleague average. Maybe KT should have sent out Zest earlier after all ._.
Maru averages 0.5 kills against SKT by the way.
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On March 23 2016 01:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2016 00:54 Diabolique wrote:On March 23 2016 00:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:Ouch KT lost that sucks -.- TY lost also, meh Well nvm, i kinda like JinAir too You must watch the games!!!! They were sooooooo good!!! Maru destroying Stats ... an excellent game Maru vs. TY for the best terran on Earth ... and the last Zest vs Rogue - a delight! :-) Hm is that a biased opinion or an actual legit one? :D I guess i will watch them no matter what though, JinAir vs KT has to be good i think^^
Maru destroying Stats and Rogue's baneling drops - that is biased :-)
Maru vs. TY was excellent.
In fact, I even liked Maru vs. Leenock an extremely long macro game, where Leenock had 3k-4k both minerals and gas in bank and a maxed out army, bases all over the map, while Maru was struggling with money and had just a few mining bases ... but with lots and lots of patience and harrass, he was able to win, although it did not look like possible in the middle of the match.
But I still liked mostly the final Rogue vs. Zest ace match ... so unexpected, so brilliant :-)
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Sucks to say but Rogue killed Zest with sick style.
Also UGH once again at invulnerable Nydus. If it would at least get canceled once you kill the Overlord..
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