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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
March 22 2016 11:53 GMT
#781
On March 22 2016 20:52 Charoisaur wrote:
when is the final?


you can watch JA lose on Saturday
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 22 2016 11:53 GMT
#782
On March 22 2016 20:48 Noonius wrote:
well, at least we get to see JA lose on Saturday

I am happy to see Noonius becoming a fan of Jin Air! :-)
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
March 22 2016 11:53 GMT
#783
On March 22 2016 20:51 CheddarToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 20:49 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:48 CheddarToss wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:45 usopsama wrote:
Blizzard and its Nydus design.

Yep. The only cheese in this game that you see like 1000 miles away and still can't do zip about it. I like cheese, as my user name suggests, but man where is the skill component to this cheese, if you can plant the nydus right in the middle of opponents vision and he can do nothing to stop it?

Well this wasn't the usual shit with transfusing the shit out of it. This was about Zest not having any units on the ground. I am OK with nerfing the nydus, but not based on this game, Zest had almost 0 units...

There were like bgillion Queens there, right? Rouge could have transfused it, had Zest decided to focus fire it down.

You wouldn't even be able to transfuse it if 2 Immortals were there to hit it with few units...

Nydus might be badly designed atm, but it certainly wasn't the reason because of the Zest's loss.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
CheddarToss
Profile Joined September 2015
534 Posts
March 22 2016 11:53 GMT
#784
On March 22 2016 20:51 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 20:49 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:48 CheddarToss wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:45 usopsama wrote:
Blizzard and its Nydus design.

Yep. The only cheese in this game that you see like 1000 miles away and still can't do zip about it. I like cheese, as my user name suggests, but man where is the skill component to this cheese, if you can plant the nydus right in the middle of opponents vision and he can do nothing to stop it?

Well this wasn't the usual shit with transfusing the shit out of it. This was about Zest not having any units on the ground. I am OK with nerfing the nydus, but not based on this game, Zest had almost 0 units...

If nydus is vulnerable while it's being built, then Zest can just pull probes and prevent the nydus from ever coming up.

Which is good and logical. I mean, if I'm that daft of a player to plant a nydus/pylon/whatever right there where the opponent can see it, he should be able to stop it right away.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
March 22 2016 11:53 GMT
#785
I wish just for once KT could beat Jin Air in all-kill. Like, when it matters. Maybe KT would have won if they beat CJ and didn't have an extra match yesterday, but whatever.

So since there are only 3 rounds, I guess when SKT wins on Saturday they're already in the final playoffs?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 11:56:12
March 22 2016 11:53 GMT
#786
On March 22 2016 20:48 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 20:47 AlgeriaT wrote:
Do those of us who have Rogue as FPL captain just auto win now?

Nope because FPL only counts for regular rounds, playoffs don't count.

I know. What I'm saying is that this level of sexiness ought to cancel out everything else in FPL even retroactively
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12132 Posts
March 22 2016 11:55 GMT
#787
On March 22 2016 20:53 CheddarToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 20:51 Seeker wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:49 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:48 CheddarToss wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:45 usopsama wrote:
Blizzard and its Nydus design.

Yep. The only cheese in this game that you see like 1000 miles away and still can't do zip about it. I like cheese, as my user name suggests, but man where is the skill component to this cheese, if you can plant the nydus right in the middle of opponents vision and he can do nothing to stop it?

Well this wasn't the usual shit with transfusing the shit out of it. This was about Zest not having any units on the ground. I am OK with nerfing the nydus, but not based on this game, Zest had almost 0 units...

If nydus is vulnerable while it's being built, then Zest can just pull probes and prevent the nydus from ever coming up.

Which is good and logical. I mean, if I'm that daft of a player to plant a nydus/pylon/whatever right there where the opponent can see it, he should be able to stop it right away.

I agree. But with units. That's why I think the best way to fix the nydus is to add it armor and remove the invulnerability. This way you can kill it with actual units but you cannot kill it with workers
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
March 22 2016 11:56 GMT
#788
I need a community feedback in tomorrow real quick.....
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
March 22 2016 11:56 GMT
#789
On March 22 2016 20:53 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 20:48 CheddarToss wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:45 usopsama wrote:
Blizzard and its Nydus design.

Yep. The only cheese in this game that you see like 1000 miles away and still can't do zip about it. I like cheese, as my user name suggests, but man where is the skill component to this cheese, if you can plant the nydus right in the middle of opponents vision and he can do nothing to stop it?

This.

Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 20:51 Seeker wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:49 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:48 CheddarToss wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:45 usopsama wrote:
Blizzard and its Nydus design.

Yep. The only cheese in this game that you see like 1000 miles away and still can't do zip about it. I like cheese, as my user name suggests, but man where is the skill component to this cheese, if you can plant the nydus right in the middle of opponents vision and he can do nothing to stop it?

Well this wasn't the usual shit with transfusing the shit out of it. This was about Zest not having any units on the ground. I am OK with nerfing the nydus, but not based on this game, Zest had almost 0 units...

If nydus is vulnerable while it's being built, then Zest can just pull probes and prevent the nydus from ever coming up.

And this.

The Nydus sealed the deal but Rogue should have won after those baneling bombs. This is not the game to use for complaining about Nydus imo
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
March 22 2016 11:56 GMT
#790
On March 22 2016 20:47 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 20:46 Penev wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:45 usopsama wrote:
Blizzard and its Nydus design.

It was the Ovie drop that did it tho


Zest had a possibility at least try to recover but once nydus hit, it was all over


Every form of Nydus would have killed in that very moment. Rogue was double the army supply with some high energy queens, while all Zest had was 2 popping Immortals, 3 adepts, 1 stalker, 1-2 zelots, a msc and 5 phoenix. Against arround 10+5 (1st and 2nd wave) and arround 8-10 queens + lings. Even if it was the hots Nydus and Rogue would have set it infront of Zests 3rd or even outside of it... no chance to hold that for zest for long. Morph 1-2 Ravanger and get save the ramp to the main up and win it.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
March 22 2016 11:57 GMT
#791
On March 22 2016 20:55 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 20:53 CheddarToss wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:51 Seeker wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:49 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:48 CheddarToss wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:45 usopsama wrote:
Blizzard and its Nydus design.

Yep. The only cheese in this game that you see like 1000 miles away and still can't do zip about it. I like cheese, as my user name suggests, but man where is the skill component to this cheese, if you can plant the nydus right in the middle of opponents vision and he can do nothing to stop it?

Well this wasn't the usual shit with transfusing the shit out of it. This was about Zest not having any units on the ground. I am OK with nerfing the nydus, but not based on this game, Zest had almost 0 units...

If nydus is vulnerable while it's being built, then Zest can just pull probes and prevent the nydus from ever coming up.

Which is good and logical. I mean, if I'm that daft of a player to plant a nydus/pylon/whatever right there where the opponent can see it, he should be able to stop it right away.

I agree. But with units. That's why I think the best way to fix the nydus is to add it armor and remove the invulnerability. This way you can kill it with actual units but you cannot kill it with workers

As long as everyone agrees that it's dumb it's completely invulnerable.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
CheddarToss
Profile Joined September 2015
534 Posts
March 22 2016 11:57 GMT
#792
On March 22 2016 20:55 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 20:53 CheddarToss wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:51 Seeker wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:49 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:48 CheddarToss wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:45 usopsama wrote:
Blizzard and its Nydus design.

Yep. The only cheese in this game that you see like 1000 miles away and still can't do zip about it. I like cheese, as my user name suggests, but man where is the skill component to this cheese, if you can plant the nydus right in the middle of opponents vision and he can do nothing to stop it?

Well this wasn't the usual shit with transfusing the shit out of it. This was about Zest not having any units on the ground. I am OK with nerfing the nydus, but not based on this game, Zest had almost 0 units...

If nydus is vulnerable while it's being built, then Zest can just pull probes and prevent the nydus from ever coming up.

Which is good and logical. I mean, if I'm that daft of a player to plant a nydus/pylon/whatever right there where the opponent can see it, he should be able to stop it right away.

I agree. But with units. That's why I think the best way to fix the nydus is to add it armor and remove the invulnerability. This way you can kill it with actual units but you cannot kill it with workers

Why does it matter whether units or workers are being used? Should pylons/photon cannons also have armor, so that Zergs and Terran can only stop related abuse/cheese with units?
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 22 2016 11:57 GMT
#793
On March 22 2016 20:53 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 20:48 Noonius wrote:
well, at least we get to see JA lose on Saturday

I am happy to see Noonius becoming a fan of Jin Air! :-)

Noonius: Maru will lose against Stats. -> Damned! Noonius : Jin Air - 0 : 1
Noonius: Maru will lose against TY. -> Damned! Noonius : Jin Air - 0 : 2
Noonius: Maru will lose against Leenock. -> Damned! Noonius : Jin Air - 0 : 3
Noonius: Maru will lose against Zest. -> I told you! Eazy peazy! Noonius : Jin Air - 1 : 3
Noonius: Trap will lose against Zest. -> LOL! KT has won. Noonius : Jin Air - 2 : 3
Noonius: Rogue will lose against Zest. -> Fuck! Noonius : Jin Air - 2 : 4
Noonius: Good that Jin Air won, I can watch them being beaten on Saturday! -> Noonius : Jin Air - 2 : 14
:-)

sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 11:59:52
March 22 2016 11:59 GMT
#794
On March 22 2016 20:57 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 20:53 Diabolique wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:48 Noonius wrote:
well, at least we get to see JA lose on Saturday

I am happy to see Noonius becoming a fan of Jin Air! :-)

Noonius: Maru will lose against Stats. -> Damned! Noonius : Jin Air - 0 : 1
Noonius: Maru will lose against TY. -> Damned! Noonius : Jin Air - 0 : 2
Noonius: Maru will lose against Leenock. -> Damned! Noonius : Jin Air - 0 : 3
Noonius: Maru will lose against Zest. -> I told you! Eazy peazy! Noonius : Jin Air - 1 : 3
Noonius: Trap will lose against Zest. -> LOL! KT has won. Noonius : Jin Air - 2 : 3
Noonius: Rogue will lose against Zest. -> Fuck! Noonius : Jin Air - 2 : 4
Noonius: Good that Jin Air won, I can watch them being beaten on Saturday! -> Noonius : Jin Air - 2 : 14
:-)


Nah Jin Air is gonna lose. 2nd place is clearly where they want to be. Just like last year, it's where they feel they belong.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 22 2016 11:59 GMT
#795
lol KT
I really think we're on to another year of complete domination from SKT
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
March 22 2016 12:01 GMT
#796
On March 22 2016 20:57 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 20:53 Diabolique wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:48 Noonius wrote:
well, at least we get to see JA lose on Saturday

I am happy to see Noonius becoming a fan of Jin Air! :-)

Noonius: Maru will lose against Stats. -> Damned! Noonius : Jin Air - 0 : 1
Noonius: Maru will lose against TY. -> Damned! Noonius : Jin Air - 0 : 2
Noonius: Maru will lose against Leenock. -> Damned! Noonius : Jin Air - 0 : 3
Noonius: Maru will lose against Zest. -> I told you! Eazy peazy! Noonius : Jin Air - 1 : 3
Noonius: Trap will lose against Zest. -> LOL! KT has won. Noonius : Jin Air - 2 : 3
Noonius: Rogue will lose against Zest. -> Fuck! Noonius : Jin Air - 2 : 4
Noonius: Good that Jin Air won, I can watch them being beaten on Saturday! -> Noonius : Jin Air - 2 : 14
:-)



what a way to twist the dagger
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
March 22 2016 12:01 GMT
#797
On March 22 2016 20:59 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 20:57 Diabolique wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:53 Diabolique wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:48 Noonius wrote:
well, at least we get to see JA lose on Saturday

I am happy to see Noonius becoming a fan of Jin Air! :-)

Noonius: Maru will lose against Stats. -> Damned! Noonius : Jin Air - 0 : 1
Noonius: Maru will lose against TY. -> Damned! Noonius : Jin Air - 0 : 2
Noonius: Maru will lose against Leenock. -> Damned! Noonius : Jin Air - 0 : 3
Noonius: Maru will lose against Zest. -> I told you! Eazy peazy! Noonius : Jin Air - 1 : 3
Noonius: Trap will lose against Zest. -> LOL! KT has won. Noonius : Jin Air - 2 : 3
Noonius: Rogue will lose against Zest. -> Fuck! Noonius : Jin Air - 2 : 4
Noonius: Good that Jin Air won, I can watch them being beaten on Saturday! -> Noonius : Jin Air - 2 : 14
:-)


Nah Jin Air is gonna lose. 2nd place is clearly where they want to be. Just like last year, it's where they feel they belong.

Hope classic and innvo won't dissapoint me again......
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 12:02:42
March 22 2016 12:02 GMT
#798
On March 22 2016 20:57 CheddarToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 20:55 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:53 CheddarToss wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:51 Seeker wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:49 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:48 CheddarToss wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:45 usopsama wrote:
Blizzard and its Nydus design.

Yep. The only cheese in this game that you see like 1000 miles away and still can't do zip about it. I like cheese, as my user name suggests, but man where is the skill component to this cheese, if you can plant the nydus right in the middle of opponents vision and he can do nothing to stop it?

Well this wasn't the usual shit with transfusing the shit out of it. This was about Zest not having any units on the ground. I am OK with nerfing the nydus, but not based on this game, Zest had almost 0 units...

If nydus is vulnerable while it's being built, then Zest can just pull probes and prevent the nydus from ever coming up.

Which is good and logical. I mean, if I'm that daft of a player to plant a nydus/pylon/whatever right there where the opponent can see it, he should be able to stop it right away.

I agree. But with units. That's why I think the best way to fix the nydus is to add it armor and remove the invulnerability. This way you can kill it with actual units but you cannot kill it with workers

Why does it matter whether units or workers are being used? Should pylons/photon cannons also have armor, so that Zergs and Terran can only stop related abuse/cheese with units?

You are comparing Pylons/Photons/Bunkers with Nydus that is tier 2 and needs a big investment? Sorry, but you are just showing your incredible bias and really can't be taken seriously after this comment.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 12:03:59
March 22 2016 12:02 GMT
#799
On March 22 2016 20:59 OtherWorld wrote:
lol KT
I really think we're on to another year of complete domination from SKT

Possibly. SKT is definitely the team to beat. Not sure what's so lolworthy about KT's performance though. They had to prepare for 2 matches in 2 days and ended up 1 map shy of winning both.

I mean really, this was a step up from how KT did against Jin Air last year.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 12:04:16
March 22 2016 12:03 GMT
#800
On March 22 2016 20:59 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2016 20:57 Diabolique wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:53 Diabolique wrote:
On March 22 2016 20:48 Noonius wrote:
well, at least we get to see JA lose on Saturday

I am happy to see Noonius becoming a fan of Jin Air! :-)

Noonius: Maru will lose against Stats. -> Damned! Noonius : Jin Air - 0 : 1
Noonius: Maru will lose against TY. -> Damned! Noonius : Jin Air - 0 : 2
Noonius: Maru will lose against Leenock. -> Damned! Noonius : Jin Air - 0 : 3
Noonius: Maru will lose against Zest. -> I told you! Eazy peazy! Noonius : Jin Air - 1 : 3
Noonius: Trap will lose against Zest. -> LOL! KT has won. Noonius : Jin Air - 2 : 3
Noonius: Rogue will lose against Zest. -> Fuck! Noonius : Jin Air - 2 : 4
Noonius: Good that Jin Air won, I can watch them being beaten on Saturday! -> Noonius : Jin Air - 2 : 14
:-)


Nah Jin Air is gonna lose. 2nd place is clearly where they want to be. Just like last year, it's where they feel they belong.

Yeah, most probably, Jin Air will be second. I am just laughing about the reasoning ... when you lost everything, you can still say, it is good that the team you hate won, because therefore, they can lose the next time. And if we win against SKT, he can say, it is good, because that more he will enjoy our loss next time :-)
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