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Leenock is like "I wanna be your friend and donate units back"
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Czech Republic12134 Posts
On February 19 2016 18:52 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 18:51 deacon.frost wrote:On February 19 2016 18:49 Elentos wrote:On February 19 2016 18:47 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 18:45 Isualin wrote:
Lol tasteless not liking the proposed changes at all tbh his stance is entirely reasonnable. The whole patch is pleasing because it shows some will to change some big decisions about LotV but right now the game is decent except maybe PvZ and games are really really fun. I mean, especially if you play a lot of Terran, tank pickups are a core mechanic of 2 matchups and they see use in every matchup every now and then. The core gameplay of the race is changed because reasons. Warp mechanic is the core mechanic of Protoss and people want it changed from WoL  Colossus was a core unit of Protoss match ups almost whole HotS(in the end PvZ was colossi-less) and whole WoL. And it was changed  They are changing core mechanics. I am questioning why the game was released from beta so fast, I kinda feel "we need more beta testers, so we will release it so they HAVE to test these changes" decision was done. Warp-in is a core mechanic, but tankivacs isn't a core mechanic.
not my words though. I just addressed the fact Blizzard will change core mechanic if they want.
On February 19 2016 18:49 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 18:48 deacon.frost wrote:On February 19 2016 18:47 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 18:45 Isualin wrote:
Lol tasteless not liking the proposed changes at all tbh his stance is entirely reasonnable. The whole patch is pleasing because it shows some will to change some big decisions about LotV but right now the game is decent except maybe PvZ and games are really really fun. Game is really fun to watch, but not so much fun to play IMO. I hope they will address all the issues. Maybe it won't be that fun to watch, but if it will be better to play... (e.g. PvP) How is PvP changed again? I don't like the tank buff, I like the tankivac being gone since I think it breaks the whole concept of what a tank is. The Ravager change feels odd.
Players hate the disruptor tennis. Many players said that PvP is bad to be played, but everyone goes oooh, aaaah about the tennis.
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United States23455 Posts
On February 19 2016 18:53 Pandemona wrote:
Wow 2 slacking sc2 writers watching gsl live. Well i never!
I'm king slacker
I'm new suicide toss
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On February 19 2016 18:53 Pandemona wrote:
Wow 2 slacking sc2 writers watching gsl live. Well i never!
Trying to work on those predictions?
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On February 19 2016 18:54 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 18:52 Heartland wrote:On February 19 2016 18:51 deacon.frost wrote:On February 19 2016 18:49 Elentos wrote:On February 19 2016 18:47 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 18:45 Isualin wrote:
Lol tasteless not liking the proposed changes at all tbh his stance is entirely reasonnable. The whole patch is pleasing because it shows some will to change some big decisions about LotV but right now the game is decent except maybe PvZ and games are really really fun. I mean, especially if you play a lot of Terran, tank pickups are a core mechanic of 2 matchups and they see use in every matchup every now and then. The core gameplay of the race is changed because reasons. Warp mechanic is the core mechanic of Protoss and people want it changed from WoL Colossus was a core unit of Protoss match ups almost whole HotS(in the end PvZ was colossi-less) and whole WoL. And it was changed They are changing core mechanics. I am questioning why the game was released from beta so fast, I kinda feel "we need more beta testers, so we will release it so they HAVE to test these changes" decision was done. Warp-in is a core mechanic, but tankivacs isn't a core mechanic. not my words though. I just addressed the fact Blizzard will change core mechanic if they want. Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 18:49 Heartland wrote:On February 19 2016 18:48 deacon.frost wrote:On February 19 2016 18:47 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 18:45 Isualin wrote:
Lol tasteless not liking the proposed changes at all tbh his stance is entirely reasonnable. The whole patch is pleasing because it shows some will to change some big decisions about LotV but right now the game is decent except maybe PvZ and games are really really fun. Game is really fun to watch, but not so much fun to play IMO. I hope they will address all the issues. Maybe it won't be that fun to watch, but if it will be better to play... (e.g. PvP) How is PvP changed again? I don't like the tank buff, I like the tankivac being gone since I think it breaks the whole concept of what a tank is. The Ravager change feels odd. Players hate the disruptor tennis. Many players said that PvP is bad to be played, but everyone goes oooh, aaaah about the tennis.
ah okay : )
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On February 19 2016 18:54 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 18:53 Pandemona wrote:
Wow 2 slacking sc2 writers watching gsl live. Well i never! Trying to work on those predictions?
Haha 
On February 19 2016 18:54 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 18:53 Pandemona wrote:
Wow 2 slacking sc2 writers watching gsl live. Well i never! I'm king slacker I'm new suicide toss
Nothing beats Zealously as king slacker, you can be prince, np!
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On February 19 2016 18:53 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 18:51 deacon.frost wrote:On February 19 2016 18:49 Elentos wrote:On February 19 2016 18:47 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 18:45 Isualin wrote:
Lol tasteless not liking the proposed changes at all tbh his stance is entirely reasonnable. The whole patch is pleasing because it shows some will to change some big decisions about LotV but right now the game is decent except maybe PvZ and games are really really fun. I mean, especially if you play a lot of Terran, tank pickups are a core mechanic of 2 matchups and they see use in every matchup every now and then. The core gameplay of the race is changed because reasons. Warp mechanic is the core mechanic of Protoss and people want it changed from WoL Colossus was a core unit of Protoss match ups almost whole HotS(in the end PvZ was colossi-less) and whole WoL. And it was changed They are changing core mechanics. I am questioning why the game was released from beta so fast, I kinda feel "we need more beta testers, so we will release it so they HAVE to test these changes" decision was done. Yeah they were changed from HotS to LotV. Terran's core gameplay was also changed from HotS to LotV with tank pickups and the need to build tanks because roach/ravager styles became so prevalent. The point is it's now being changed again 3 months after release.
I don't see how you can make the Tank not OP as fuck and deal with roach/ravager 1/1 timings. Because you have like 4/5 tanks max against someone with 90+ army supply but nothing prevents you to get 15 tanks later vs a similar army.
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On February 19 2016 18:51 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 18:50 Phredxor wrote:On February 19 2016 18:49 Elentos wrote:On February 19 2016 18:47 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 18:45 Isualin wrote:
Lol tasteless not liking the proposed changes at all tbh his stance is entirely reasonnable. The whole patch is pleasing because it shows some will to change some big decisions about LotV but right now the game is decent except maybe PvZ and games are really really fun. I mean, especially if you play a lot of Terran, tank pickups are a core mechanic of 2 matchups and they see use in every matchup every now and then. The core gameplay of the race is changed because reasons. That's one of my biggest worries. A change like that in the middle of a season would be killer on the Terrans. Also I think it'll bring turtle mech back which very few people want Yeh mech would become viable overnight especially in TvT just huge slow tank liberator pushes and no one wants that.
A problem caused by the introduction of the Liberator
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United States23455 Posts
On February 19 2016 18:54 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 18:53 Pandemona wrote:
Wow 2 slacking sc2 writers watching gsl live. Well i never! Trying to work on those predictions?
I suppose they can't get any worse
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Zealously is allowed to slack given the state of his fandom. I love that player too but I have no excuse anymore aLive is good again. I have to come back
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On February 19 2016 18:55 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 18:51 Pandemona wrote:On February 19 2016 18:50 Phredxor wrote:On February 19 2016 18:49 Elentos wrote:On February 19 2016 18:47 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 18:45 Isualin wrote:
Lol tasteless not liking the proposed changes at all tbh his stance is entirely reasonnable. The whole patch is pleasing because it shows some will to change some big decisions about LotV but right now the game is decent except maybe PvZ and games are really really fun. I mean, especially if you play a lot of Terran, tank pickups are a core mechanic of 2 matchups and they see use in every matchup every now and then. The core gameplay of the race is changed because reasons. That's one of my biggest worries. A change like that in the middle of a season would be killer on the Terrans. Also I think it'll bring turtle mech back which very few people want Yeh mech would become viable overnight especially in TvT just huge slow tank liberator pushes and no one wants that. A problem caused by the introduction of the Liberator
We had slow mech pushes in HotS without Liberators..
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To get the tankievac nerf through blizzard is gonna have to nerf almost everything on the game. People seem to forget thats what terrans got in LotV to deal with all the new stuff P and Z have now.
Tell me you've seen a SINGLE timing/fight won by the terran without the tank micro (unless going for heavy widow mines against MLB) and try to think how the game would've gone if the T just lost those siege tanks and had to fall back (3min window to tech freely to ultras? 2 more bases? lol...)
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"I agree they should give immortals Blink"
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On February 19 2016 18:55 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 18:51 Pandemona wrote:On February 19 2016 18:50 Phredxor wrote:On February 19 2016 18:49 Elentos wrote:On February 19 2016 18:47 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 18:45 Isualin wrote:
Lol tasteless not liking the proposed changes at all tbh his stance is entirely reasonnable. The whole patch is pleasing because it shows some will to change some big decisions about LotV but right now the game is decent except maybe PvZ and games are really really fun. I mean, especially if you play a lot of Terran, tank pickups are a core mechanic of 2 matchups and they see use in every matchup every now and then. The core gameplay of the race is changed because reasons. That's one of my biggest worries. A change like that in the middle of a season would be killer on the Terrans. Also I think it'll bring turtle mech back which very few people want Yeh mech would become viable overnight especially in TvT just huge slow tank liberator pushes and no one wants that. A problem caused by the introduction of the Liberator
True if they ever did another major patch which they probably will (not an expansion) i can see them removing a unit each and not adding them. Literally go the wow route "less buttons more passives" xD
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Czech Republic12134 Posts
On February 19 2016 18:56 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 18:55 Penev wrote:On February 19 2016 18:51 Pandemona wrote:On February 19 2016 18:50 Phredxor wrote:On February 19 2016 18:49 Elentos wrote:On February 19 2016 18:47 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 18:45 Isualin wrote:
Lol tasteless not liking the proposed changes at all tbh his stance is entirely reasonnable. The whole patch is pleasing because it shows some will to change some big decisions about LotV but right now the game is decent except maybe PvZ and games are really really fun. I mean, especially if you play a lot of Terran, tank pickups are a core mechanic of 2 matchups and they see use in every matchup every now and then. The core gameplay of the race is changed because reasons. That's one of my biggest worries. A change like that in the middle of a season would be killer on the Terrans. Also I think it'll bring turtle mech back which very few people want Yeh mech would become viable overnight especially in TvT just huge slow tank liberator pushes and no one wants that. A problem caused by the introduction of the Liberator We had slow mech pushes in HotS without Liberators..
Different maps and economy though.
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Elentos
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So in the meantime, what are Leenock's upgrades?
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On February 19 2016 18:56 Sif_ wrote:
To get the tankievac nerf through blizzard is gonna have to nerf almost everything on the game. People seem to forget thats what terrans got in LotV to deal with all the new stuff P and Z have now.
Tell me you've seen a SINGLE timing/fight won by the terran without the tank micro (unless going for heavy widow mines against MLB) and try to think how the game would've gone if the T just lost those siege tanks and had to fall back (3min window to tech freely to ultras? 2 more bases? lol...)
I've seen plenty of Terrans win without tankivacs
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Interested to see how the blink stalker disruptors works out instead of the chargelot archon stuff
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