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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 06:34:15
February 02 2016 06:32 GMT
#441
On February 02 2016 15:21 pure.Wasted wrote:
Am I crazy or does that Gigabyte ad use a song from final Fantasy 8? I'm like 99% sure. How the hell did they get the rights. O.o


This is the song for anyone who was wondering (part in ad starts at 0:50)



I know my FF soundtracks
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 02 2016 06:33 GMT
#442
On February 02 2016 15:22 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 15:19 Phredxor wrote:
Good to see PvP still splits everyone into love/hate. This expansion looks like it just reversed everyones opinions on it

I'd say it's a massive improvement over the usual Tempests vs Tempests we saw in HOTS. There were only a handful of PvP games that I thought were entertaining, and they've mostly been documented on TL in the best games to watch categories.

I don't remember Tempest vs Tempest being that usual, but the HotS PvP meta did feel like it had way more variety than the WoL PvP meta.

I still hated Colo vs Colo wars though. The unit itself is boring and only highlighted the deathball vs deathball, single-engagement stereotype that SC2 suffered before. I'm still waiting on hope of a Colossus redesign.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8252 Posts
February 02 2016 06:33 GMT
#443
On February 02 2016 15:26 stuchiu wrote:
I thought HotS PvP was smarter and had players predict/play probabilities more. The disruptor micro outweighs all other decisions in the game, but it's easy to quantify for spectators I guess. I'm not invested in it one way or the other.

I only want WoL TvT back. FUCK

That's true. Disruptor shots literally one hit everything it gets to blow up on whereas back in HOTS, nothing was really one hit k-o. Maybe a nerf is in order? So far that's the only flaw I have with Disruptors and Ravagers, which is their attacks being way too strong.

What was WoL TvT like? I don't remember at all. Been easy too long.
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
February 02 2016 06:37 GMT
#444
Honestly cannot stand all this down-time in tournaments.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
February 02 2016 06:37 GMT
#445
On February 02 2016 15:33 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 15:26 stuchiu wrote:
I thought HotS PvP was smarter and had players predict/play probabilities more. The disruptor micro outweighs all other decisions in the game, but it's easy to quantify for spectators I guess. I'm not invested in it one way or the other.

I only want WoL TvT back. FUCK

That's true. Disruptor shots literally one hit everything it gets to blow up on whereas back in HOTS, nothing was really one hit k-o. Maybe a nerf is in order? So far that's the only flaw I have with Disruptors and Ravagers, which is their attacks being way too strong.

What was WoL TvT like? I don't remember at all. Been easy too long.

Less game-ending doom drops.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
February 02 2016 06:37 GMT
#446
On February 02 2016 15:33 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 15:26 stuchiu wrote:
I thought HotS PvP was smarter and had players predict/play probabilities more. The disruptor micro outweighs all other decisions in the game, but it's easy to quantify for spectators I guess. I'm not invested in it one way or the other.

I only want WoL TvT back. FUCK

That's true. Disruptor shots literally one hit everything it gets to blow up on whereas back in HOTS, nothing was really one hit k-o. Maybe a nerf is in order? So far that's the only flaw I have with Disruptors and Ravagers, which is their attacks being way too strong.

What was WoL TvT like? I don't remember at all. Been easy too long.

Bio v mech at its peak sky wars like boxer v rain on Metalopolis, tank wars that pretty damn crazy, and more than simply be cheesy af
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 02 2016 06:38 GMT
#447
marine tank chess games
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 06:39:52
February 02 2016 06:39 GMT
#448
"New guy" wtf

Ever heard of ghostking???

Fucking new guy
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 02 2016 06:39 GMT
#449
On February 02 2016 15:32 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 15:21 pure.Wasted wrote:
Am I crazy or does that Gigabyte ad use a song from final Fantasy 8? I'm like 99% sure. How the hell did they get the rights. O.o


This is the song for anyone who was wondering (part in ad starts at 0:50)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v6BtJaBQmo&t=0m50s

I know my FF soundtracks


Good track. From the training mission in Dollet isn't it? FF soundtracks are always quality.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 06:40:38
February 02 2016 06:39 GMT
#450
On February 02 2016 15:33 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 15:26 stuchiu wrote:
I thought HotS PvP was smarter and had players predict/play probabilities more. The disruptor micro outweighs all other decisions in the game, but it's easy to quantify for spectators I guess. I'm not invested in it one way or the other.

I only want WoL TvT back. FUCK

That's true. Disruptor shots literally one hit everything it gets to blow up on whereas back in HOTS, nothing was really one hit k-o. Maybe a nerf is in order? So far that's the only flaw I have with Disruptors and Ravagers, which is their attacks being way too strong.

What was WoL TvT like? I don't remember at all. Been easy too long.


WoL TvT has multiple and varied build orders and could be played economically, strategically, tactically, aggressive, defensive, multiple compositions, aggressive, defensive, a combination of any of these, mindgames. It could be high octane or a slow burn into an explosion of movement. Each move had an impact on the rest of the map and changed the objectives of how both players had to play at any given time.

I generally account WoL TvT as the time when Polt/Mvp tactical and strategical revolutions became rote in the meta. Though there are games before then (Jinro vs Ensnare, MKP vs Nada TvTs) before then that are still worth watching.
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
February 02 2016 06:40 GMT
#451
On February 02 2016 15:39 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 15:33 geokilla wrote:
On February 02 2016 15:26 stuchiu wrote:
I thought HotS PvP was smarter and had players predict/play probabilities more. The disruptor micro outweighs all other decisions in the game, but it's easy to quantify for spectators I guess. I'm not invested in it one way or the other.

I only want WoL TvT back. FUCK

That's true. Disruptor shots literally one hit everything it gets to blow up on whereas back in HOTS, nothing was really one hit k-o. Maybe a nerf is in order? So far that's the only flaw I have with Disruptors and Ravagers, which is their attacks being way too strong.

What was WoL TvT like? I don't remember at all. Been easy too long.


WoL TvT has multiple and varied build orders and could be played economically, strategically, tactically, aggressive, defensive, multiple compositions, aggressive, defensive, a combination of any of these, mindgames. It could be high octane or a slow burn into an explosion of movement. Each move had an impact on the rest of the map and changed the objectives of how both players had to play at any given time.


aka GOAT match up. Maybe 2nd to old TvZ

Also I really want byunjwa to win
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
February 02 2016 06:41 GMT
#452
On February 02 2016 15:39 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 15:33 geokilla wrote:
On February 02 2016 15:26 stuchiu wrote:
I thought HotS PvP was smarter and had players predict/play probabilities more. The disruptor micro outweighs all other decisions in the game, but it's easy to quantify for spectators I guess. I'm not invested in it one way or the other.

I only want WoL TvT back. FUCK

That's true. Disruptor shots literally one hit everything it gets to blow up on whereas back in HOTS, nothing was really one hit k-o. Maybe a nerf is in order? So far that's the only flaw I have with Disruptors and Ravagers, which is their attacks being way too strong.

What was WoL TvT like? I don't remember at all. Been easy too long.


WoL TvT has multiple and varied build orders and could be played economically, strategically, tactically, aggressive, defensive, multiple compositions, aggressive, defensive, a combination of any of these, mindgames. It could be high octane or a slow burn into an explosion of movement. Each move had an impact on the rest of the map and changed the objectives of how both players had to play at any given time.

I generally account WoL TvT as the time when Polt/Mvp tactical and strategical revolutions became rote in the meta. Though there are games before then (Jinro vs Ensnare, MKP vs Nada TvTs) before then that are still worth watching.

Oh the polt mma mvp triangle of old :D
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 06:42:17
February 02 2016 06:41 GMT
#453
I agree the disruptor micro outweights other stuff too much, but i still think they are a great addition to PvP. A disruptor nerf sounds like a good idea, or just a change to make them more forgiving/less unforgiving. As long as they are not worse vs zerg ofc.

And yeah, WoL TvT was awesome.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
February 02 2016 06:42 GMT
#454
On February 02 2016 15:39 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 15:33 geokilla wrote:
On February 02 2016 15:26 stuchiu wrote:
I thought HotS PvP was smarter and had players predict/play probabilities more. The disruptor micro outweighs all other decisions in the game, but it's easy to quantify for spectators I guess. I'm not invested in it one way or the other.

I only want WoL TvT back. FUCK

That's true. Disruptor shots literally one hit everything it gets to blow up on whereas back in HOTS, nothing was really one hit k-o. Maybe a nerf is in order? So far that's the only flaw I have with Disruptors and Ravagers, which is their attacks being way too strong.

What was WoL TvT like? I don't remember at all. Been easy too long.


WoL TvT has multiple and varied build orders and could be played economically, strategically, tactically, aggressive, defensive, multiple compositions, aggressive, defensive, a combination of any of these, mindgames. It could be high octane or a slow burn into an explosion of movement. Each move had an impact on the rest of the map and changed the objectives of how both players had to play at any given time.

I generally account WoL TvT as the time when Polt/Mvp tactical and strategical revolutions became rote in the meta. Though there are games before then (Jinro vs Ensnare, MKP vs Nada TvTs) before then that are still worth watching.


Well, that's a shame that TvT has changed then. Maybe make Medivacs boostless only in TvT?
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
February 02 2016 06:42 GMT
#455
my body is ready for a terran tournament victory
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
February 02 2016 06:43 GMT
#456
On February 02 2016 15:42 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 15:39 stuchiu wrote:
On February 02 2016 15:33 geokilla wrote:
On February 02 2016 15:26 stuchiu wrote:
I thought HotS PvP was smarter and had players predict/play probabilities more. The disruptor micro outweighs all other decisions in the game, but it's easy to quantify for spectators I guess. I'm not invested in it one way or the other.

I only want WoL TvT back. FUCK

That's true. Disruptor shots literally one hit everything it gets to blow up on whereas back in HOTS, nothing was really one hit k-o. Maybe a nerf is in order? So far that's the only flaw I have with Disruptors and Ravagers, which is their attacks being way too strong.

What was WoL TvT like? I don't remember at all. Been easy too long.


WoL TvT has multiple and varied build orders and could be played economically, strategically, tactically, aggressive, defensive, multiple compositions, aggressive, defensive, a combination of any of these, mindgames. It could be high octane or a slow burn into an explosion of movement. Each move had an impact on the rest of the map and changed the objectives of how both players had to play at any given time.

I generally account WoL TvT as the time when Polt/Mvp tactical and strategical revolutions became rote in the meta. Though there are games before then (Jinro vs Ensnare, MKP vs Nada TvTs) before then that are still worth watching.


Well, that's a shame that TvT has changed then. Maybe make Medivacs boostless?

Holy fuck thats brilliant
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
February 02 2016 06:43 GMT
#457
Final Fantasy VIII <3 best soundtrack
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
February 02 2016 06:43 GMT
#458
On February 02 2016 15:42 Noonius wrote:
my body is ready for a terran tournament victory

Yea, too bad its not Maru v sOs
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
February 02 2016 06:43 GMT
#459
On February 02 2016 15:43 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 15:42 swissman777 wrote:
On February 02 2016 15:39 stuchiu wrote:
On February 02 2016 15:33 geokilla wrote:
On February 02 2016 15:26 stuchiu wrote:
I thought HotS PvP was smarter and had players predict/play probabilities more. The disruptor micro outweighs all other decisions in the game, but it's easy to quantify for spectators I guess. I'm not invested in it one way or the other.

I only want WoL TvT back. FUCK

That's true. Disruptor shots literally one hit everything it gets to blow up on whereas back in HOTS, nothing was really one hit k-o. Maybe a nerf is in order? So far that's the only flaw I have with Disruptors and Ravagers, which is their attacks being way too strong.

What was WoL TvT like? I don't remember at all. Been easy too long.


WoL TvT has multiple and varied build orders and could be played economically, strategically, tactically, aggressive, defensive, multiple compositions, aggressive, defensive, a combination of any of these, mindgames. It could be high octane or a slow burn into an explosion of movement. Each move had an impact on the rest of the map and changed the objectives of how both players had to play at any given time.

I generally account WoL TvT as the time when Polt/Mvp tactical and strategical revolutions became rote in the meta. Though there are games before then (Jinro vs Ensnare, MKP vs Nada TvTs) before then that are still worth watching.


Well, that's a shame that TvT has changed then. Maybe make Medivacs boostless?

Holy fuck thats brilliant


Hey, come on I wrote more than that
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
February 02 2016 06:44 GMT
#460
On February 02 2016 15:43 Lunareste wrote:
Final Fantasy VIII <3 best soundtrack

PMD best soundtrack
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
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