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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 09 2016 18:28 GMT
#81
On January 10 2016 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:14 Nakajin wrote:
MaSa got screw so hard, the guy lived half his life in Canada and still can't play, also I don't see PiLiPiLi anywhere, can the guy play anywhere with a Kazakh nationality?

PiliPili had to play in the EU qualifiers... for some reason he couldn't play NA even though he lives here too

So Kazakhstan is in Europe now ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 18:30:01
January 09 2016 18:29 GMT
#82
there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?)
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 18:34:43
January 09 2016 18:33 GMT
#83
On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:25 Inflicted wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:22 Musicus wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:19 Adebisi wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:11 Musicus wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:09 Adebisi wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:01 Topin wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:00 Dingodile wrote:
On January 10 2016 02:52 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On January 10 2016 02:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Poor Masa





So WCS makes the ForGG rule but won't let Masa compete in Canada?

What does it mean for Polt and Violet?

Adebisi said they cant play this tournament either, same rule for them


To be clear with the current structure they can compete in WCS Circuit events, but not passport qualifiers, passport qualifiers are ONLY for citizens.


Is every qualifier that provides paid trips for WCS Circuit events a passport qualifier?


No, just like DreamHack Open primarily has always been about open signups and on-site participation, IEM I'm sure will continue to be primarily online qualifiers with paid trips and its only 8 slots for each WCS 5,000 event that go to the passport qualifiers, so they can have 24 or however many other slots allotted however they prefer (of course I can't speak for them).

You can see for WCS 10,000 events the breakdown of the 32 players is:

The server qualifiers are open for all WCS eligible players, so its not just citizenship based, etc.


Okay, the server qualifiers are basically Masa's chance then. Goot to know, thanks Adebis!


WCS 10,000 events = Circuit Championships (Winter, Spring, Summer) btw


Yeah, so only 3 chances, but at least that's as many chances as last year with WCS Premier. Masa had no chance to qualify for DH events last year too.

I mean, nobody had a chance at qualifying for DH Opens. But MaSa will always be forced to pay for his own travels if he wants to play DH now, unless his team can cover all the expenses every time, other players living in the same country get a chance to get a free trip for pretty arbitrary reasons. I'm not sure what a Canada-Germany trip costs, but considering only top 16 gets money, it's probably not worth it for him to sign up for the Open either.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
January 09 2016 18:34 GMT
#84
On January 10 2016 03:28 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:14 Nakajin wrote:
MaSa got screw so hard, the guy lived half his life in Canada and still can't play, also I don't see PiLiPiLi anywhere, can the guy play anywhere with a Kazakh nationality?

PiliPili had to play in the EU qualifiers... for some reason he couldn't play NA even though he lives here too

So Kazakhstan is in Europe now ?


Yes, just like Turkey is.
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
January 09 2016 18:35 GMT
#85
On January 10 2016 03:29 coL.hendralisk wrote:
there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?)

Adebisi said on twitter that it was done using RNG not seeding if I remember correctly
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 09 2016 18:36 GMT
#86
On January 10 2016 03:33 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:25 Inflicted wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:22 Musicus wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:19 Adebisi wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:11 Musicus wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:09 Adebisi wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:01 Topin wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:00 Dingodile wrote:
On January 10 2016 02:52 chipmonklord17 wrote:
[quote]

So WCS makes the ForGG rule but won't let Masa compete in Canada?

What does it mean for Polt and Violet?

Adebisi said they cant play this tournament either, same rule for them


To be clear with the current structure they can compete in WCS Circuit events, but not passport qualifiers, passport qualifiers are ONLY for citizens.


Is every qualifier that provides paid trips for WCS Circuit events a passport qualifier?


No, just like DreamHack Open primarily has always been about open signups and on-site participation, IEM I'm sure will continue to be primarily online qualifiers with paid trips and its only 8 slots for each WCS 5,000 event that go to the passport qualifiers, so they can have 24 or however many other slots allotted however they prefer (of course I can't speak for them).

You can see for WCS 10,000 events the breakdown of the 32 players is:

The server qualifiers are open for all WCS eligible players, so its not just citizenship based, etc.


Okay, the server qualifiers are basically Masa's chance then. Goot to know, thanks Adebis!


WCS 10,000 events = Circuit Championships (Winter, Spring, Summer) btw


Yeah, so only 3 chances, but at least that's as many chances as last year with WCS Premier. Masa had no chance to qualify for DH events last year too.

I mean, nobody had a chance at qualifying for DH Opens. But MaSa will always be forced to pay for his own travels if he wants to play DH now, unless his team can cover all the expenses every time, other players living in the same country get a chance to get a free trip for pretty arbitrary reasons. I'm not sure what a Canada-Germany trip costs, but considering only top 16 gets money, it's probably not worth it for him to sign up for the Open either.


Yeah, that's what I meant with

On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote:
Still sucks for him compared to the others, but at least it doesn't mean his whole sc2 career is basically over.

I still don't like the system, but I'll take it.


Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
deus.machinarum
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria658 Posts
January 09 2016 18:37 GMT
#87
On January 10 2016 03:34 EatingBomber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:28 Boucot wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:14 Nakajin wrote:
MaSa got screw so hard, the guy lived half his life in Canada and still can't play, also I don't see PiLiPiLi anywhere, can the guy play anywhere with a Kazakh nationality?

PiliPili had to play in the EU qualifiers... for some reason he couldn't play NA even though he lives here too

So Kazakhstan is in Europe now ?


Yes, just like Turkey is.

lol, I don't mind it for the purposes of SC2(more competition = more chances for all kinds of players etc) but saying turkey is in europe just feels kinda....off

unless you were being sarcastic anyway
Nothing worth having comes easy.
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
January 09 2016 18:38 GMT
#88
On January 10 2016 03:35 InsidiA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:29 coL.hendralisk wrote:
there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?)

Adebisi said on twitter that it was done using RNG not seeding if I remember correctly


yeah maybe i'm just old fashioned but back in the day any big tourny + paid travel qualifier was seeded no exceptions
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
January 09 2016 18:41 GMT
#89
On January 10 2016 03:37 deus.machinarum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:34 EatingBomber wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:28 Boucot wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:14 Nakajin wrote:
MaSa got screw so hard, the guy lived half his life in Canada and still can't play, also I don't see PiLiPiLi anywhere, can the guy play anywhere with a Kazakh nationality?

PiliPili had to play in the EU qualifiers... for some reason he couldn't play NA even though he lives here too

So Kazakhstan is in Europe now ?


Yes, just like Turkey is.

lol, I don't mind it for the purposes of SC2(more competition = more chances for all kinds of players etc) but saying turkey is in europe just feels kinda....off

unless you were being sarcastic anyway

I'm sure it was sarcastic, but I think he was referring to the geography of it all. 5.4% of Kazakhstan are technically in Europe. Not sure about Turkey, but it can't be much more, and they're often counted as European (and even try to get into the EU).
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
January 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#90
On January 10 2016 03:38 coL.hendralisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:35 InsidiA wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:29 coL.hendralisk wrote:
there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?)

Adebisi said on twitter that it was done using RNG not seeding if I remember correctly


yeah maybe i'm just old fashioned but back in the day any big tourny + paid travel qualifier was seeded no exceptions

You have to go with the times; RNGesus took over everything
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
January 09 2016 18:43 GMT
#91
On January 10 2016 03:38 coL.hendralisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:35 InsidiA wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:29 coL.hendralisk wrote:
there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?)

Adebisi said on twitter that it was done using RNG not seeding if I remember correctly


yeah maybe i'm just old fashioned but back in the day any big tourny + paid travel qualifier was seeded no exceptions


When there was no mama core, no WMs, SH's did stuff and Khaydarin amulets were all the rage. Those were the days?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
January 09 2016 18:43 GMT
#92
On January 10 2016 03:38 coL.hendralisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:35 InsidiA wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:29 coL.hendralisk wrote:
there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?)

Adebisi said on twitter that it was done using RNG not seeding if I remember correctly


yeah maybe i'm just old fashioned but back in the day any big tourny + paid travel qualifier was seeded no exceptions

you're an old man now henry
very illegal and very uncool
deus.machinarum
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria658 Posts
January 09 2016 18:43 GMT
#93
On January 10 2016 03:41 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:37 deus.machinarum wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:34 EatingBomber wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:28 Boucot wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:14 Nakajin wrote:
MaSa got screw so hard, the guy lived half his life in Canada and still can't play, also I don't see PiLiPiLi anywhere, can the guy play anywhere with a Kazakh nationality?

PiliPili had to play in the EU qualifiers... for some reason he couldn't play NA even though he lives here too

So Kazakhstan is in Europe now ?


Yes, just like Turkey is.

lol, I don't mind it for the purposes of SC2(more competition = more chances for all kinds of players etc) but saying turkey is in europe just feels kinda....off

unless you were being sarcastic anyway

I'm sure it was sarcastic, but I think he was referring to the geography of it all. 5.4% of Kazakhstan are technically in Europe. Not sure about Turkey, but it can't be much more, and they're often counted as European (and even try to get into the EU).

ah yeah, I thought I might have read that too narrowly
Nothing worth having comes easy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
January 09 2016 18:44 GMT
#94
On January 10 2016 03:36 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:33 Elentos wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:25 Inflicted wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:22 Musicus wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:19 Adebisi wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:11 Musicus wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:09 Adebisi wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:01 Topin wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:00 Dingodile wrote:
[quote]
What does it mean for Polt and Violet?

Adebisi said they cant play this tournament either, same rule for them


To be clear with the current structure they can compete in WCS Circuit events, but not passport qualifiers, passport qualifiers are ONLY for citizens.


Is every qualifier that provides paid trips for WCS Circuit events a passport qualifier?


No, just like DreamHack Open primarily has always been about open signups and on-site participation, IEM I'm sure will continue to be primarily online qualifiers with paid trips and its only 8 slots for each WCS 5,000 event that go to the passport qualifiers, so they can have 24 or however many other slots allotted however they prefer (of course I can't speak for them).

You can see for WCS 10,000 events the breakdown of the 32 players is:

The server qualifiers are open for all WCS eligible players, so its not just citizenship based, etc.


Okay, the server qualifiers are basically Masa's chance then. Goot to know, thanks Adebis!


WCS 10,000 events = Circuit Championships (Winter, Spring, Summer) btw


Yeah, so only 3 chances, but at least that's as many chances as last year with WCS Premier. Masa had no chance to qualify for DH events last year too.

I mean, nobody had a chance at qualifying for DH Opens. But MaSa will always be forced to pay for his own travels if he wants to play DH now, unless his team can cover all the expenses every time, other players living in the same country get a chance to get a free trip for pretty arbitrary reasons. I'm not sure what a Canada-Germany trip costs, but considering only top 16 gets money, it's probably not worth it for him to sign up for the Open either.


Yeah, that's what I meant with

Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote:
Still sucks for him compared to the others, but at least it doesn't mean his whole sc2 career is basically over.

I still don't like the system, but I'll take it.



He's not as optimistic about it as you, check his twitter feed. I mean, frankly, he's prevented from playing for a chance to play in most tournaments because of stupid qualifying rules so I can understand him. He has less chances to play than a Korean who isn't on a Proleague team.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 09 2016 18:45 GMT
#95
On January 10 2016 03:44 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:36 Musicus wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:33 Elentos wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:25 Inflicted wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:22 Musicus wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:19 Adebisi wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:11 Musicus wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:09 Adebisi wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:01 Topin wrote:
[quote]
Adebisi said they cant play this tournament either, same rule for them


To be clear with the current structure they can compete in WCS Circuit events, but not passport qualifiers, passport qualifiers are ONLY for citizens.


Is every qualifier that provides paid trips for WCS Circuit events a passport qualifier?


No, just like DreamHack Open primarily has always been about open signups and on-site participation, IEM I'm sure will continue to be primarily online qualifiers with paid trips and its only 8 slots for each WCS 5,000 event that go to the passport qualifiers, so they can have 24 or however many other slots allotted however they prefer (of course I can't speak for them).

You can see for WCS 10,000 events the breakdown of the 32 players is:

The server qualifiers are open for all WCS eligible players, so its not just citizenship based, etc.


Okay, the server qualifiers are basically Masa's chance then. Goot to know, thanks Adebis!


WCS 10,000 events = Circuit Championships (Winter, Spring, Summer) btw


Yeah, so only 3 chances, but at least that's as many chances as last year with WCS Premier. Masa had no chance to qualify for DH events last year too.

I mean, nobody had a chance at qualifying for DH Opens. But MaSa will always be forced to pay for his own travels if he wants to play DH now, unless his team can cover all the expenses every time, other players living in the same country get a chance to get a free trip for pretty arbitrary reasons. I'm not sure what a Canada-Germany trip costs, but considering only top 16 gets money, it's probably not worth it for him to sign up for the Open either.


Yeah, that's what I meant with

On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote:
Still sucks for him compared to the others, but at least it doesn't mean his whole sc2 career is basically over.

I still don't like the system, but I'll take it.



He's not as optimistic about it as you, check his twitter feed. I mean, frankly, he's prevented from playing for a chance to play in most tournaments because of stupid qualifying rules so I can understand him. He has less chances to play than a Korean who isn't on a Proleague team.


Yeah, as I said it sucks and I don't like the system.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
January 09 2016 18:49 GMT
#96
On January 10 2016 03:35 InsidiA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:29 coL.hendralisk wrote:
there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?)

Adebisi said on twitter that it was done using RNG not seeding if I remember correctly

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HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 18:57:16
January 09 2016 18:50 GMT
#97
On January 10 2016 03:41 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:37 deus.machinarum wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:34 EatingBomber wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:28 Boucot wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:14 Nakajin wrote:
MaSa got screw so hard, the guy lived half his life in Canada and still can't play, also I don't see PiLiPiLi anywhere, can the guy play anywhere with a Kazakh nationality?

PiliPili had to play in the EU qualifiers... for some reason he couldn't play NA even though he lives here too

So Kazakhstan is in Europe now ?


Yes, just like Turkey is.

lol, I don't mind it for the purposes of SC2(more competition = more chances for all kinds of players etc) but saying turkey is in europe just feels kinda....off

unless you were being sarcastic anyway

I'm sure it was sarcastic, but I think he was referring to the geography of it all. 5.4% of Kazakhstan are technically in Europe. Not sure about Turkey, but it can't be much more, and they're often counted as European (and even try to get into the EU).


Both countries are in UEFA, and even the Mongolian guy played the EU qualifier so meh. e: also pretty sure that EU = Europe, Middle East and Africa, at least they do so for the WCS qualifiers.

I don't really care about arbitrary geographic borders anyway tbh
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
January 09 2016 18:50 GMT
#98
Is JonSnow really going to beat Puck?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
January 09 2016 18:53 GMT
#99
upper half of bracket so weak
very illegal and very uncool
A_needle_jog
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
Korea (South)699 Posts
January 09 2016 18:57 GMT
#100
On January 10 2016 03:50 Mozdk wrote:
Is JonSnow really going to beat Puck?


Is Puck good player? I don't know much about NA. They are both same team

JonSnow sounds like from the TV show I watch haha
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