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On January 10 2016 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:14 Nakajin wrote:
MaSa got screw so hard, the guy lived half his life in Canada and still can't play, also I don't see PiLiPiLi anywhere, can the guy play anywhere with a Kazakh nationality? PiliPili had to play in the EU qualifiers... for some reason he couldn't play NA even though he lives here too
So Kazakhstan is in Europe now ?
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there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?)
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On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:25 Inflicted wrote:On January 10 2016 03:22 Musicus wrote:On January 10 2016 03:19 Adebisi wrote:On January 10 2016 03:11 Musicus wrote:On January 10 2016 03:09 Adebisi wrote:On January 10 2016 03:01 Topin wrote:On January 10 2016 03:00 Dingodile wrote:On January 10 2016 02:52 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2016 02:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Poor Masa  So WCS makes the ForGG rule but won't let Masa compete in Canada? What does it mean for Polt and Violet? Adebisi said they cant play this tournament either, same rule for them To be clear with the current structure they can compete in WCS Circuit events, but not passport qualifiers, passport qualifiers are ONLY for citizens. Is every qualifier that provides paid trips for WCS Circuit events a passport qualifier? No, just like DreamHack Open primarily has always been about open signups and on-site participation, IEM I'm sure will continue to be primarily online qualifiers with paid trips and its only 8 slots for each WCS 5,000 event that go to the passport qualifiers, so they can have 24 or however many other slots allotted however they prefer (of course I can't speak for them). You can see for WCS 10,000 events the breakdown of the 32 players is: The server qualifiers are open for all WCS eligible players, so its not just citizenship based, etc. Okay, the server qualifiers are basically Masa's chance then. Goot to know, thanks Adebis! WCS 10,000 events = Circuit Championships (Winter, Spring, Summer) btw Yeah, so only 3 chances, but at least that's as many chances as last year with WCS Premier. Masa had no chance to qualify for DH events last year too.
I mean, nobody had a chance at qualifying for DH Opens. But MaSa will always be forced to pay for his own travels if he wants to play DH now, unless his team can cover all the expenses every time, other players living in the same country get a chance to get a free trip for pretty arbitrary reasons. I'm not sure what a Canada-Germany trip costs, but considering only top 16 gets money, it's probably not worth it for him to sign up for the Open either.
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On January 10 2016 03:28 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On January 10 2016 03:14 Nakajin wrote:
MaSa got screw so hard, the guy lived half his life in Canada and still can't play, also I don't see PiLiPiLi anywhere, can the guy play anywhere with a Kazakh nationality? PiliPili had to play in the EU qualifiers... for some reason he couldn't play NA even though he lives here too So Kazakhstan is in Europe now ?
Yes, just like Turkey is.
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On January 10 2016 03:29 coL.hendralisk wrote:
there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?)
Adebisi said on twitter that it was done using RNG not seeding if I remember correctly
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On January 10 2016 03:33 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote:On January 10 2016 03:25 Inflicted wrote:On January 10 2016 03:22 Musicus wrote:On January 10 2016 03:19 Adebisi wrote:On January 10 2016 03:11 Musicus wrote:On January 10 2016 03:09 Adebisi wrote:On January 10 2016 03:01 Topin wrote:On January 10 2016 03:00 Dingodile wrote:On January 10 2016 02:52 chipmonklord17 wrote:
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So WCS makes the ForGG rule but won't let Masa compete in Canada? What does it mean for Polt and Violet? Adebisi said they cant play this tournament either, same rule for them To be clear with the current structure they can compete in WCS Circuit events, but not passport qualifiers, passport qualifiers are ONLY for citizens. Is every qualifier that provides paid trips for WCS Circuit events a passport qualifier? No, just like DreamHack Open primarily has always been about open signups and on-site participation, IEM I'm sure will continue to be primarily online qualifiers with paid trips and its only 8 slots for each WCS 5,000 event that go to the passport qualifiers, so they can have 24 or however many other slots allotted however they prefer (of course I can't speak for them). You can see for WCS 10,000 events the breakdown of the 32 players is: The server qualifiers are open for all WCS eligible players, so its not just citizenship based, etc. Okay, the server qualifiers are basically Masa's chance then. Goot to know, thanks Adebis! WCS 10,000 events = Circuit Championships (Winter, Spring, Summer) btw Yeah, so only 3 chances, but at least that's as many chances as last year with WCS Premier. Masa had no chance to qualify for DH events last year too. I mean, nobody had a chance at qualifying for DH Opens. But MaSa will always be forced to pay for his own travels if he wants to play DH now, unless his team can cover all the expenses every time, other players living in the same country get a chance to get a free trip for pretty arbitrary reasons. I'm not sure what a Canada-Germany trip costs, but considering only top 16 gets money, it's probably not worth it for him to sign up for the Open either.
Yeah, that's what I meant with
On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote:
Still sucks for him compared to the others, but at least it doesn't mean his whole sc2 career is basically over.
I still don't like the system, but I'll take it.
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On January 10 2016 03:34 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:28 Boucot wrote:On January 10 2016 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On January 10 2016 03:14 Nakajin wrote:
MaSa got screw so hard, the guy lived half his life in Canada and still can't play, also I don't see PiLiPiLi anywhere, can the guy play anywhere with a Kazakh nationality? PiliPili had to play in the EU qualifiers... for some reason he couldn't play NA even though he lives here too So Kazakhstan is in Europe now ? Yes, just like Turkey is.
lol, I don't mind it for the purposes of SC2(more competition = more chances for all kinds of players etc) but saying turkey is in europe just feels kinda....off
unless you were being sarcastic anyway
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On January 10 2016 03:35 InsidiA wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:29 coL.hendralisk wrote:
there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?) Adebisi said on twitter that it was done using RNG not seeding if I remember correctly
yeah maybe i'm just old fashioned but back in the day any big tourny + paid travel qualifier was seeded no exceptions
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On January 10 2016 03:37 deus.machinarum wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:34 EatingBomber wrote:On January 10 2016 03:28 Boucot wrote:On January 10 2016 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On January 10 2016 03:14 Nakajin wrote:
MaSa got screw so hard, the guy lived half his life in Canada and still can't play, also I don't see PiLiPiLi anywhere, can the guy play anywhere with a Kazakh nationality? PiliPili had to play in the EU qualifiers... for some reason he couldn't play NA even though he lives here too So Kazakhstan is in Europe now ? Yes, just like Turkey is. lol, I don't mind it for the purposes of SC2(more competition = more chances for all kinds of players etc) but saying turkey is in europe just feels kinda....off unless you were being sarcastic anyway
I'm sure it was sarcastic, but I think he was referring to the geography of it all. 5.4% of Kazakhstan are technically in Europe. Not sure about Turkey, but it can't be much more, and they're often counted as European (and even try to get into the EU).
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On January 10 2016 03:38 coL.hendralisk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:35 InsidiA wrote:On January 10 2016 03:29 coL.hendralisk wrote:
there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?) Adebisi said on twitter that it was done using RNG not seeding if I remember correctly yeah maybe i'm just old fashioned but back in the day any big tourny + paid travel qualifier was seeded no exceptions
You have to go with the times; RNGesus took over everything
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On January 10 2016 03:38 coL.hendralisk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:35 InsidiA wrote:On January 10 2016 03:29 coL.hendralisk wrote:
there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?) Adebisi said on twitter that it was done using RNG not seeding if I remember correctly yeah maybe i'm just old fashioned but back in the day any big tourny + paid travel qualifier was seeded no exceptions
When there was no mama core, no WMs, SH's did stuff and Khaydarin amulets were all the rage. Those were the days?
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On January 10 2016 03:38 coL.hendralisk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:35 InsidiA wrote:On January 10 2016 03:29 coL.hendralisk wrote:
there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?) Adebisi said on twitter that it was done using RNG not seeding if I remember correctly yeah maybe i'm just old fashioned but back in the day any big tourny + paid travel qualifier was seeded no exceptions
you're an old man now henry
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On January 10 2016 03:41 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:37 deus.machinarum wrote:On January 10 2016 03:34 EatingBomber wrote:On January 10 2016 03:28 Boucot wrote:On January 10 2016 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On January 10 2016 03:14 Nakajin wrote:
MaSa got screw so hard, the guy lived half his life in Canada and still can't play, also I don't see PiLiPiLi anywhere, can the guy play anywhere with a Kazakh nationality? PiliPili had to play in the EU qualifiers... for some reason he couldn't play NA even though he lives here too So Kazakhstan is in Europe now ? Yes, just like Turkey is. lol, I don't mind it for the purposes of SC2(more competition = more chances for all kinds of players etc) but saying turkey is in europe just feels kinda....off unless you were being sarcastic anyway I'm sure it was sarcastic, but I think he was referring to the geography of it all. 5.4% of Kazakhstan are technically in Europe. Not sure about Turkey, but it can't be much more, and they're often counted as European (and even try to get into the EU).
ah yeah, I thought I might have read that too narrowly
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On January 10 2016 03:36 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:33 Elentos wrote:On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote:On January 10 2016 03:25 Inflicted wrote:On January 10 2016 03:22 Musicus wrote:On January 10 2016 03:19 Adebisi wrote:On January 10 2016 03:11 Musicus wrote:On January 10 2016 03:09 Adebisi wrote:On January 10 2016 03:01 Topin wrote:On January 10 2016 03:00 Dingodile wrote:
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What does it mean for Polt and Violet? Adebisi said they cant play this tournament either, same rule for them To be clear with the current structure they can compete in WCS Circuit events, but not passport qualifiers, passport qualifiers are ONLY for citizens. Is every qualifier that provides paid trips for WCS Circuit events a passport qualifier? No, just like DreamHack Open primarily has always been about open signups and on-site participation, IEM I'm sure will continue to be primarily online qualifiers with paid trips and its only 8 slots for each WCS 5,000 event that go to the passport qualifiers, so they can have 24 or however many other slots allotted however they prefer (of course I can't speak for them). You can see for WCS 10,000 events the breakdown of the 32 players is: The server qualifiers are open for all WCS eligible players, so its not just citizenship based, etc. Okay, the server qualifiers are basically Masa's chance then. Goot to know, thanks Adebis! WCS 10,000 events = Circuit Championships (Winter, Spring, Summer) btw Yeah, so only 3 chances, but at least that's as many chances as last year with WCS Premier. Masa had no chance to qualify for DH events last year too. I mean, nobody had a chance at qualifying for DH Opens. But MaSa will always be forced to pay for his own travels if he wants to play DH now, unless his team can cover all the expenses every time, other players living in the same country get a chance to get a free trip for pretty arbitrary reasons. I'm not sure what a Canada-Germany trip costs, but considering only top 16 gets money, it's probably not worth it for him to sign up for the Open either. Yeah, that's what I meant with Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote:
Still sucks for him compared to the others, but at least it doesn't mean his whole sc2 career is basically over.
I still don't like the system, but I'll take it.
He's not as optimistic about it as you, check his twitter feed. I mean, frankly, he's prevented from playing for a chance to play in most tournaments because of stupid qualifying rules so I can understand him. He has less chances to play than a Korean who isn't on a Proleague team.
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On January 10 2016 03:44 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:36 Musicus wrote:On January 10 2016 03:33 Elentos wrote:On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote:On January 10 2016 03:25 Inflicted wrote:On January 10 2016 03:22 Musicus wrote:On January 10 2016 03:19 Adebisi wrote:On January 10 2016 03:11 Musicus wrote:On January 10 2016 03:09 Adebisi wrote:On January 10 2016 03:01 Topin wrote:
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Adebisi said they cant play this tournament either, same rule for them To be clear with the current structure they can compete in WCS Circuit events, but not passport qualifiers, passport qualifiers are ONLY for citizens. Is every qualifier that provides paid trips for WCS Circuit events a passport qualifier? No, just like DreamHack Open primarily has always been about open signups and on-site participation, IEM I'm sure will continue to be primarily online qualifiers with paid trips and its only 8 slots for each WCS 5,000 event that go to the passport qualifiers, so they can have 24 or however many other slots allotted however they prefer (of course I can't speak for them). You can see for WCS 10,000 events the breakdown of the 32 players is: The server qualifiers are open for all WCS eligible players, so its not just citizenship based, etc. Okay, the server qualifiers are basically Masa's chance then. Goot to know, thanks Adebis! WCS 10,000 events = Circuit Championships (Winter, Spring, Summer) btw Yeah, so only 3 chances, but at least that's as many chances as last year with WCS Premier. Masa had no chance to qualify for DH events last year too. I mean, nobody had a chance at qualifying for DH Opens. But MaSa will always be forced to pay for his own travels if he wants to play DH now, unless his team can cover all the expenses every time, other players living in the same country get a chance to get a free trip for pretty arbitrary reasons. I'm not sure what a Canada-Germany trip costs, but considering only top 16 gets money, it's probably not worth it for him to sign up for the Open either. Yeah, that's what I meant with On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote:
Still sucks for him compared to the others, but at least it doesn't mean his whole sc2 career is basically over.
I still don't like the system, but I'll take it. He's not as optimistic about it as you, check his twitter feed. I mean, frankly, he's prevented from playing for a chance to play in most tournaments because of stupid qualifying rules so I can understand him. He has less chances to play than a Korean who isn't on a Proleague team.
Yeah, as I said it sucks and I don't like the system.
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On January 10 2016 03:35 InsidiA wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:29 coL.hendralisk wrote:
there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?) Adebisi said on twitter that it was done using RNG not seeding if I remember correctly
ROFL
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On January 10 2016 03:41 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 03:37 deus.machinarum wrote:On January 10 2016 03:34 EatingBomber wrote:On January 10 2016 03:28 Boucot wrote:On January 10 2016 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On January 10 2016 03:14 Nakajin wrote:
MaSa got screw so hard, the guy lived half his life in Canada and still can't play, also I don't see PiLiPiLi anywhere, can the guy play anywhere with a Kazakh nationality? PiliPili had to play in the EU qualifiers... for some reason he couldn't play NA even though he lives here too So Kazakhstan is in Europe now ? Yes, just like Turkey is. lol, I don't mind it for the purposes of SC2(more competition = more chances for all kinds of players etc) but saying turkey is in europe just feels kinda....off unless you were being sarcastic anyway I'm sure it was sarcastic, but I think he was referring to the geography of it all. 5.4% of Kazakhstan are technically in Europe. Not sure about Turkey, but it can't be much more, and they're often counted as European (and even try to get into the EU).
Both countries are in UEFA, and even the Mongolian guy played the EU qualifier so meh. e: also pretty sure that EU = Europe, Middle East and Africa, at least they do so for the WCS qualifiers.
I don't really care about arbitrary geographic borders anyway tbh
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Is JonSnow really going to beat Puck?
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upper half of bracket so weak
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On January 10 2016 03:50 Mozdk wrote:
Is JonSnow really going to beat Puck?
Is Puck good player? I don't know much about NA. They are both same team 
JonSnow sounds like from the TV show I watch haha
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