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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/D1QejQC.jpg) BRACKETS http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_DreamHack_Open/Leipzig/Qualifiers/North_America http://binarybeast.com/xSC21512228 DATE & TIME North America: Saturday, Jan 09 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) STREAMS Check the Sidebar | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
She gonna destroy everyone else there. Huge fan of her macro and controls ! | ||
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deus.machinarum
Austria658 Posts
On January 10 2016 01:55 A_needle_jog wrote: Scarlett !!!!!!!!!!!! She gonna destroy everyone else there. Huge fan of her macro and controls ! What he said!  | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 10 2016 01:55 A_needle_jog wrote: Scarlett !!!!!!!!!!!! She gonna destroy everyone else there. Huge fan of her macro and controls ! Creep spread, don't forget her creep spread  . | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Neeb vs State first round. One of America's best is going out very quickly Probably State, too. The fact he's playing from Korea doesn't ever do him good in online stuff. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QyIQquK.png) Scarlett confirmed best new American player | ||
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Topin
Peru10104 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Edit: MaSa is out first round, I guess he didn't show up, he is going the regret this one... | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Scarlett confirmed best new American player its binarybeast, flags are based on your location when you sign up I think cant be changed either | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:15 Nakajin wrote: Also Puck vs DesRow, winner play JohnSnow, and the winner of that probably play noregret or Guitarcheesse. Meanwhile MaSa has the easiest bracket of all time, no real pro until the semi-final. Well, the bracket page says it wasn't easy enough for MaSa. | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:17 Elentos wrote: Well, the bracket page says it wasn't easy enough for MaSa. DQed from being too Korean? rip | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:15 Nakajin wrote: Also Puck vs DesRow, winner play JohnSnow, and the winner of that probably play noregret or Guitarcheesse. Meanwhile MaSa has the easiest bracket of all time, no real pro until the semi-final. Edit: MaSa is out first round, I guess he didn't show up, he is going the regret this one... MaSa doesn't have full Canadian citizenship yet apparently, so he's screwed out of WCS for the time being | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:18 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: MaSa doesn't have full Canadian citizenship yet apparently, so he's screwed out of WCS for the time being That's incredibly stupid. One of the most idiotic things I've ever seen in the WCS system. | ||
Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:20 Elentos wrote: That's incredibly stupid. One of the most idiotic things I've ever seen in the WCS system. To be clear, he's eligible to participate in the main event through the normal open signups, but these 8 slots (out of 96 slots in the tournament) are citizenship based. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:19 Aocowns wrote: State vs Neeb first round whaat nice seeding | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
What seeding? | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:23 Inflicted wrote: At least NA one is double-elim Wait, really? I have no idea what these people are doing anymore. | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:24 Boucot wrote: Wait, MaSa is not canadian ? Korean living in Canada I think | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:26 Musicus wrote: Wait NA is double elim??? WTF? well every region but EU was so if they goofed it was probably there | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:32 Shellshock wrote: well every region but EU was so if they goofed it was probably there 128 double-elim sounds like hell to admin | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:32 Shellshock wrote: well every region but EU was so if they goofed it was probably there Probably because EU had so much passion and so many players they couldn't be contained in a double bracket. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:32 Shellshock wrote: well every region but EU was so if they goofed it was probably there Yeah, really weird that EU was single elimination then :/. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12391 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:36 Inflicted wrote: 128 double-elim sounds like hell to admin Preliminary rounds into double elim when there's an acceptable number? | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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MaRa17
Germany40 Posts
This is pathetic imo | ||
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Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:26 Musicus wrote: Wait NA is double elim??? WTF? Its based on number of signups whether or not its single elim due to time restrictions.For future events we will very much likely to extend the qualifiers to run over multiple days since EU will probably consistently be this large. | ||
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Topin
Peru10104 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:40 Adebisi wrote: Its based on number of signups whether or not its single elim due to time restrictions.For future events we will very much likely to extend the qualifiers to run over multiple days since EU will probably consistently be this large. Oh okay. I don't really see the harm in the EU qualifier being longer and overlapping with the NA qualifier, but as long as it wasn't a mistake it's all good. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Topin
Peru10104 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:21 Adebisi wrote: To be clear, he's eligible to participate in the main event through the normal open signups, but these 8 slots (out of 96 slots in the tournament) are citizenship based. So basically he or his team have to pay his own flights for every event he wants to attend because he can't go through these. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
EDIT: fuck yes | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:50 Aocowns wrote: Did State get it??! State won ya | ||
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Topin
Peru10104 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:50 Aocowns wrote: Did State get it??! yes 2-1 | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Poor Masa https://twitter.com/eLevateMaSa/status/685879028956270592 So WCS makes the ForGG rule but won't let Masa compete in Canada? | ||
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SoleSteeler
Canada5458 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
hmm stream said Bo1 but bracket says Bo3 | ||
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:54 Inflicted wrote: Losers bracket is Bo1....? lol Well, that's interesting. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:54 Inflicted wrote: Losers bracket is Bo1....? lol bo1 with rock paper scissors | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Topin
Peru10104 Posts
This is Gonna Be Brutal | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:57 Musicus wrote: It's a joke that Masa can't play. So he will never be able to qualify for paid trips for WCS events? I guess, unless he somehow obtains full citizenship... | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:21 Adebisi wrote: To be clear, he's eligible to participate in the main event through the normal open signups, but these 8 slots (out of 96 slots in the tournament) are citizenship based. I feel like a green card (aka permanent residency) should be sufficient since they usually mean you're there for the long term. Or do they not do green cards outside of US/Canada? I don't know | ||
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Dingodile
4139 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:52 chipmonklord17 wrote: So WCS makes the ForGG rule but won't let Masa compete in Canada? What does it mean for Polt and Violet? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:54 Inflicted wrote: Losers bracket is Bo1....? lol hmm stream said Bo1 but bracket says Bo3 bo1 is still better than the EU qualifier | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
They have to pay for their own trips every time. | ||
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Topin
Peru10104 Posts
Adebisi said they cant play this tournament either, same rule for them | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
Polt, viOLet & Hydra can play in the actual events but can't win any paid trips. | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:52 chipmonklord17 wrote: So WCS makes the ForGG rule but won't let Masa compete in Canada? ForGG also can't play in these I thought? The ForGG rule only applies to the offline section | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
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EatingBomber
1017 Posts
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Topin
Peru10104 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:04 EatingBomber wrote: This is so confusing. All this competition is only for a paid flight? Then what about the qualifiers for the actual tournament? edit | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:04 EatingBomber wrote: This is so confusing. All this competition is only for a paid flight? Then what about the qualifiers for the actual tournament? and accomodations. DH is the old format where there's like 90 open spots | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:04 EatingBomber wrote: This is so confusing. All this competition is only for a paid flight? Then what about the qualifiers for the actual tournament? It's like a paid flight and accomodations. Beyond that DH Opens don't have qualifiers. | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:04 EatingBomber wrote: This is so confusing. All this competition is only for a paid flight? Then what about the qualifiers for the actual tournament? The tournament is open. Anyone can sign up (except for Koreans though ) | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:04 EatingBomber wrote: This is so confusing. All this competition is only for a paid flight? Then what about the qualifiers for the actual tournament? Apart from the 8 paid trips, it's a standard DH open event. DH open never had qualifiers. There are 96 spots as always, but this year 8 are paid for, 88 players will have to pay themselves and request a spot. | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:06 Solar424 wrote: The tournament is open. Anyone can sign up (except for Koreans though )I recommend a re-branding: DH Almost-Open MaSa should still have been able to play in this. That's just stupid. He didn't come to Canada when he was 12 to be a progamer playing WCS. | ||
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Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:01 Topin wrote: Adebisi said they cant play this tournament either, same rule for them To be clear with the current structure they can compete in WCS Circuit events, but not passport qualifiers, passport qualifiers are ONLY for citizens. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:09 Adebisi wrote: To be clear with the current structure they can compete in WCS Circuit events, but not passport qualifiers, passport qualifiers are ONLY for citizens. Is every qualifier that provides paid trips for WCS Circuit events a passport qualifier? | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:14 Nakajin wrote: MaSa got screw so hard, the guy lived half his life in Canada and still can't play, also I don't see PiLiPiLi anywhere, can the guy play anywhere with a Kazakh nationality? That country falls under Europe (as with previous WCS years - yes I'm aware its not physically in Europe) | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:14 Nakajin wrote: MaSa got screw so hard, the guy lived half his life in Canada and still can't play, also I don't see PiLiPiLi anywhere, can the guy play anywhere with a Kazakh nationality? PiliPili had to play in the EU qualifiers... for some reason he couldn't play NA even though he lives here too | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
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Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:11 Musicus wrote: Is every qualifier that provides paid trips for WCS Circuit events a passport qualifier? No, just like DreamHack Open primarily has always been about open signups and on-site participation, IEM I'm sure will continue to be primarily online qualifiers with paid trips and its only 8 slots for each WCS 5,000 event that go to the passport qualifiers, so they can have 24 or however many other slots allotted however they prefer (of course I can't speak for them). You can see for WCS 10,000 events the breakdown of the 32 players is: Reserved Regional seeds The WCS Circuit Residency requirements apply to all spots. Some spots have additional regional residency requirements (8) Regional Challenger (2) Europe, Africa, Middle East (2) North America (USA, Canada) (1) Latin America (1) China (1) Oceania, Southeast Asia, Japan (1) Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau (14) Server Qualifiers (8) EU Server Qualifier 1st-8th (6) AM Server Qualifier 1st-6th (2) National Qualifiers Citizens from hosting nation eligible (8) WCS Standings Invites 2015 WCS Standings will be used for Winter Championship 2016 WCS Standings will be used for Spring and Summer Championship The server qualifiers are open for all WCS eligible players, so its not just citizenship based, etc. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:16 Adebisi wrote: That country falls under Europe (as with previous WCS years - yes I'm aware its not physically in Europe) Ok thanks | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:19 Adebisi wrote: No, just like DreamHack Open primarily has always been about open signups and on-site participation, IEM I'm sure will continue to be primarily online qualifiers with paid trips and its only 8 slots for each WCS 5,000 event that go to the passport qualifiers, so they can have 24 or however many other slots allotted however they prefer (of course I can't speak for them). You can see for WCS 10,000 events the breakdown of the 32 players is: Reserved Regional seeds The WCS Circuit Residency requirements apply to all spots. Some spots have additional regional residency requirements (8) Regional Challenger (2) Europe, Africa, Middle East (2) North America (USA, Canada) (1) Latin America (1) China (1) Oceania, Southeast Asia, Japan (1) Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau (14) Server Qualifiers (8) EU Server Qualifier 1st-8th (6) AM Server Qualifier 1st-6th (2) National Qualifiers Citizens from hosting nation eligible (8) WCS Standings Invites 2015 WCS Standings will be used for Winter Championship 2016 WCS Standings will be used for Spring and Summer Championship The server qualifiers are open for all WCS eligible players, so its not just citizenship based, etc. Okay, the server qualifiers are basically Masa's chance then. Good to know, thanks Adebis! | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:22 Musicus wrote: Okay, the server qualifiers are basically Masa's chance then. Goot to know, thanks Adebis! WCS 10,000 events = Circuit Championships (Winter, Spring, Summer) btw | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:25 Inflicted wrote: WCS 10,000 events = Circuit Championships (Winter, Spring, Summer) btw Yeah, so only 3 chances, but at least that's as many chances as last year with WCS Premier. Masa had no chance to qualify for DH events last year too. Still sucks for him compared to the others, but at least it doesn't mean his whole sc2 career is basically over. I still don't like the system, but I'll take it. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: PiliPili had to play in the EU qualifiers... for some reason he couldn't play NA even though he lives here too So Kazakhstan is in Europe now ? | ||
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coL.hendralisk
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote: Yeah, so only 3 chances, but at least that's as many chances as last year with WCS Premier. Masa had no chance to qualify for DH events last year too. I mean, nobody had a chance at qualifying for DH Opens. But MaSa will always be forced to pay for his own travels if he wants to play DH now, unless his team can cover all the expenses every time, other players living in the same country get a chance to get a free trip for pretty arbitrary reasons. I'm not sure what a Canada-Germany trip costs, but considering only top 16 gets money, it's probably not worth it for him to sign up for the Open either. | ||
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EatingBomber
1017 Posts
Yes, just like Turkey is. | ||
InsidiA
Canada1169 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:29 coL.hendralisk wrote: there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?) Adebisi said on twitter that it was done using RNG not seeding if I remember correctly | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:33 Elentos wrote: I mean, nobody had a chance at qualifying for DH Opens. But MaSa will always be forced to pay for his own travels if he wants to play DH now, unless his team can cover all the expenses every time, other players living in the same country get a chance to get a free trip for pretty arbitrary reasons. I'm not sure what a Canada-Germany trip costs, but considering only top 16 gets money, it's probably not worth it for him to sign up for the Open either. Yeah, that's what I meant with On January 10 2016 03:28 Musicus wrote: Still sucks for him compared to the others, but at least it doesn't mean his whole sc2 career is basically over. I still don't like the system, but I'll take it. | ||
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deus.machinarum
Austria658 Posts
lol, I don't mind it for the purposes of SC2(more competition = more chances for all kinds of players etc) but saying turkey is in europe just feels kinda....off unless you were being sarcastic anyway | ||
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coL.hendralisk
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:35 InsidiA wrote: Adebisi said on twitter that it was done using RNG not seeding if I remember correctly yeah maybe i'm just old fashioned but back in the day any big tourny + paid travel qualifier was seeded no exceptions | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:37 deus.machinarum wrote: lol, I don't mind it for the purposes of SC2(more competition = more chances for all kinds of players etc) but saying turkey is in europe just feels kinda....off unless you were being sarcastic anyway I'm sure it was sarcastic, but I think he was referring to the geography of it all. 5.4% of Kazakhstan are technically in Europe. Not sure about Turkey, but it can't be much more, and they're often counted as European (and even try to get into the EU). | ||
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Penev
28512 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:38 coL.hendralisk wrote: yeah maybe i'm just old fashioned but back in the day any big tourny + paid travel qualifier was seeded no exceptions You have to go with the times; RNGesus took over everything | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:38 coL.hendralisk wrote: yeah maybe i'm just old fashioned but back in the day any big tourny + paid travel qualifier was seeded no exceptions When there was no mama core, no WMs, SH's did stuff and Khaydarin amulets were all the rage. Those were the days? | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:38 coL.hendralisk wrote: yeah maybe i'm just old fashioned but back in the day any big tourny + paid travel qualifier was seeded no exceptions you're an old man now henry | ||
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deus.machinarum
Austria658 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:41 Elentos wrote: I'm sure it was sarcastic, but I think he was referring to the geography of it all. 5.4% of Kazakhstan are technically in Europe. Not sure about Turkey, but it can't be much more, and they're often counted as European (and even try to get into the EU). ah yeah, I thought I might have read that too narrowly | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:36 Musicus wrote: Yeah, that's what I meant with He's not as optimistic about it as you, check his twitter feed. I mean, frankly, he's prevented from playing for a chance to play in most tournaments because of stupid qualifying rules so I can understand him. He has less chances to play than a Korean who isn't on a Proleague team. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:44 Elentos wrote: He's not as optimistic about it as you, check his twitter feed. I mean, frankly, he's prevented from playing for a chance to play in most tournaments because of stupid qualifying rules so I can understand him. He has less chances to play than a Korean who isn't on a Proleague team. Yeah, as I said it sucks and I don't like the system. | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:35 InsidiA wrote: Adebisi said on twitter that it was done using RNG not seeding if I remember correctly ROFL | ||
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HsDLTitich
Italy831 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:41 Elentos wrote: I'm sure it was sarcastic, but I think he was referring to the geography of it all. 5.4% of Kazakhstan are technically in Europe. Not sure about Turkey, but it can't be much more, and they're often counted as European (and even try to get into the EU). Both countries are in UEFA, and even the Mongolian guy played the EU qualifier so meh. e: also pretty sure that EU = Europe, Middle East and Africa, at least they do so for the WCS qualifiers. I don't really care about arbitrary geographic borders anyway tbh | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:50 Mozdk wrote: Is JonSnow really going to beat Puck? Is Puck good player? I don't know much about NA. They are both same team  JonSnow sounds like from the TV show I watch haha | ||
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TaKeTV
Germany1200 Posts
-NarutO | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:57 A_needle_jog wrote: Is Puck good player? I don't know much about NA. They are both same team JonSnow sounds like from the TV show I watch haha Yes. He's been doing really well in Legacy. Top 5 foreign P for sure. Imo top2. But I believe State will take the spot either way. | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 04:04 Mozdk wrote: Yes. He's been doing really well in Legacy. Top 5 foreign P for sure. Imo top2. But I believe State will take the spot either way. That is bad news for foreign P, because the game I just watched he played absolutely terrible and was outclassed by JonSnow | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On January 10 2016 04:06 A_needle_jog wrote: That is bad news for foreign P, because the game I just watched he played absolutely terrible and was outclassed by JonSnow Well foreign P's have been failling hard to foreign Z's. We are waiting for a patch :D | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
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InsidiA
Canada1169 Posts
On January 10 2016 03:38 coL.hendralisk wrote: yeah maybe i'm just old fashioned but back in the day any big tourny + paid travel qualifier was seeded no exceptions Oh haha I'm in the same boat, that bottom bracket is a bit absurd. | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 04:08 Mozdk wrote: Well foreign P's have been failling hard to foreign Z's. We are waiting for a patch :D Does this patch include any motivation for foreign protoss player to train harder and learn timings like koreans do? | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On January 10 2016 04:10 A_needle_jog wrote: Does this patch include any motivation for foreign protoss player to train harder and learn timings like koreans do? puCK did 3-1 Reality yesterday so he must be doing something right | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On January 10 2016 04:10 A_needle_jog wrote: Does this patch include any motivation for foreign protoss player to train harder and learn timings like koreans do? Definately not!  | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/dreinarkr | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/wardiii | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 10 2016 04:14 A_needle_jog wrote: Scarlett vs some Terran I don't know http://www.twitch.tv/wardiii Semper is an up and coming Canadian Terran. He's pretty good from what I'd seen, probably capable of beating Scarlett if he plays well | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 10 2016 04:09 InsidiA wrote: Oh haha I'm in the same boat, that bottom bracket is a bit absurd. IEM and DH havent seeded bracket in it feels like years? | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 04:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Semper is an up and coming Canadian Terran. He's pretty good from what I'd seen, probably capable of beating Scarlett if he plays well wow then he must be really good, because Scarlett is stronger than all other NA combined in my humble opinion. Great to see new canadian terrans, but I think Scarlett gonna win very easy like always because absolutely great gaming skill | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On January 10 2016 04:10 A_needle_jog wrote: Does this patch include any motivation for foreign protoss player to train harder and learn timings like koreans do? Don't Korean P's also have a sub 50% winrate vs Zerg? not as bad as 42% iirc but still something not good lol | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On January 10 2016 04:20 Arvendilin wrote: Don't Korean P's also have a sub 50% winrate vs Zerg? not as bad as 42% iirc but still something not good lol Yes they do. Which is why Blizzard is working on a patch. | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 04:20 Arvendilin wrote: Don't Korean P's also have a sub 50% winrate vs Zerg? not as bad as 42% iirc but still something not good lol Don't quite know. Too early to say, but the games I have seen so far in GSL etc. the protoss played good and won. So far no Zergs qualified only 2 protoss and 3 terrans if I remember correctly. I think if maps change soon then balance will be better. Korean protoss and terrans are currently showing the way with great dedication to the game and meticulous timings | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On January 10 2016 04:18 A_needle_jog wrote: wow then he must be really good, because Scarlett is stronger than all other NA combined in my humble opinion. Great to see new canadian terrans, but I think Scarlett gonna win very easy like always because absolutely great gaming skill Scarlett has not dominate NA scene in a few year now, she lost to many NA player in 2014-2015, i still think she will qualify today. | ||
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HsDLTitich
Italy831 Posts
On January 10 2016 04:17 stuchiu wrote: IEM and DH havent seeded bracket in it feels like years? IEM qualifiers have seeds. BTW, does HTOMario have an american citizenship? Otherwise why is he allowed to play this qualifier while Masa was dqed? | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 04:25 Nakajin wrote: Scarlett has not dominate NA scene in a few year now, she lost to many NA player in 2014-2015, i still think she will qualify today. I am follower of Scarlett fan club. She plays a lot she says. So with training like she is doing now I think she is going to stomp through that qualifier. She looked great in Nation Wars too. I believe in Scarlett | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On January 10 2016 04:12 Inflicted wrote: Adept?puCK did 3-1 Reality yesterday so he must be doing something right Also Reality will forever be the dumbass terran that doesn't wall off in tvz on a map with inbase nat while going cc first I will not be suprised if he got 4-0ed by johhnyrecco | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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On January 10 2016 04:24 A_needle_jog wrote: I want to say Ragnarok won but it was more innovation wanting to take a nap than anything else.Don't quite know. Too early to say, but the games I have seen so far in GSL etc. the protoss played good and won. So far no Zergs qualified only 2 protoss and 3 terrans if I remember correctly. I think if maps change soon then balance will be better. Korean protoss and terrans are currently showing the way with great dedication to the game and meticulous timings | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:25 Nakajin wrote: Scarlett has not dominate NA scene in a few year now, she lost to many NA player in 2014-2015, i still think she will qualify today. I don't think Scarlett can be considered favorite over State. Not even close. She was very good, but hardly plays according to her twitter. State plays 9 hours a day on Kr GM. | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I believe in Scarlett too but she's getting liberated pretty hard in this game 2 lol Lol I see that too. That is very strong. I don't like that. She is FORCED to go spire. I wish blizzard would allow more options to battle certain scenarios. That is bad design with that super strong liberator range | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:29 Mozdk wrote: I don't think Scarlett can be considered favorite over State. Not even close. She was very good, but hardly plays according to her twitter. State plays 9 hours a day on Kr GM. If I played 24 hours a day and Scarlett only 2 hours then Scarlett would probably still beat me Scarlett has that magical control to be always ahead in everthing imho. I can't quite tell what but she definitely has better multitasking than other gamers I know (non koreans) | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:29 Mozdk wrote: I don't think Scarlett can be considered favorite over State. Not even close. She was very good, but hardly plays according to her twitter. State plays 9 hours a day on Kr GM. She barely plays according to her twitter, but according to her match history she's been rocking NA ladder pretty hard. | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:29 A_needle_jog wrote: Lol I see that too. That is very strong. I don't like that. She is FORCED to go spire. I wish blizzard would allow more options to battle certain scenarios. That is bad design with that super strong liberator range I guess you can just not give a shit and rofl stomp the terran Hive tech soon shouldn't lose from there | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: She barely plays according to her twitter, but according to her match history she's been rocking NA ladder pretty hard. Stephano tactics? | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: She barely plays according to her twitter, but according to her match history she's been rocking NA ladder pretty hard. I'm not saying she's a scrub. I'm saying State is the best foreigner atm. Or very close to. | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: She barely plays according to her twitter, but according to her match history she's been rocking NA ladder pretty hard. Exactly ! Wow scarlett 97 drones. She drones so hard while still maintaining perfect control. It is amazing to see. Really inspirational for me as a Zerg to see someone that good play like it is nothing. I bet in real life it looks much harder with all that APM and control | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:29 Mozdk wrote: I don't think Scarlett can be considered favorite over State. Not even close. She was very good, but hardly plays according to her twitter. State plays 9 hours a day on Kr GM. Well there is 2 spot, it will depend of the level of her zvz in the loser braket, I think it will be State and Scarlett who qualify, but to be honest it would not be the first time State stumble in NA qualifier. | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:33 Mozdk wrote: I'm not saying she's a scrub. I'm saying State is the best foreigner atm. Or very close to. How can he be the best foreigner? I am of very different opinion there. Maybe if we see results soon. I can't find any notable achievements from "State", but maybe he will be good in future? Lets see and wait. For now I don't think State is Top5 foreigner. Edit : WOW scarlett creep spread is monster | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:37 Mozdk wrote: There's a loser's bracket? There wasn't in EU right? There was no lower bracket for EU because that would be a nightmare. It would still be going. | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:38 A_needle_jog wrote: How can he be the best foreigner? I am of very different opinion there. Maybe if we see results soon. I can't find any notable achievements from "State", but maybe he will be good in future? Lets see and wait. For now I don't think State is Top5 foreigner. Edit : WOW scarlett creep spread is monster He sometimes shows up and beats everyone, then disappears again http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_X_-_gamescom/American_Qualifier http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/The_Safety_Net He's really good right now but nowhere near best foreigner | ||
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On January 10 2016 03:29 coL.hendralisk wrote: there's no way this was seeded since the bottom bracket has 95% of all the top na players in this qualifier, once again dh qualifiers admins not knowing how to run a bracket (no winners bracket advantage for the SEA qualifier.... wtf?) does that surprises you ? | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:41 Inflicted wrote: He sometimes shows up and beats everyone, then disappears again http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_X_-_gamescom/American_Qualifier http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/The_Safety_Net He's really good right now but nowhere near best foreigner Okay thanks for confirming my view | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:38 A_needle_jog wrote: How can he be the best foreigner? I am of very different opinion there. Maybe if we see results soon. I can't find any notable achievements from "State", but maybe he will be good in future? Lets see and wait. For now I don't think State is Top5 foreigner. Edit : WOW scarlett creep spread is monster Results from which tournaments? He hasn't been playing the EU/NA tournaments yet. It's also just my opinion. I've watched all top Protoss streams. And State has some skills that none of the others come near. You should watch his stream. You'll be a believer in no time. If you ever watch streams that aren't zerg. | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:43 Solar424 wrote: State isn't going to become a god just because he's been in Korea for 2 years Well he rekt rank 1 NA right? | ||
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So catz level? | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:43 Mozdk wrote: Results from which tournaments? He hasn't been playing the EU/NA tournaments yet. It's also just my opinion. I've watched all top Protoss streams. And State has some skills that none of the others come near. You should watch his stream. You'll be a believer in no time. If you ever watch streams that aren't zerg. It is hard to watch Protoss streams for me. They are very slow and I get bored after 1-2 matches. I need some high speed APM action Maybe you are right and he will be good in future. He in korea training? Does he play GSL or other korea tournaments? It would be cool to see good foreigner in korea agian like IdrA or Jinro back in WoL | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:49 A_needle_jog wrote: Huk got ignored so badIt is hard to watch Protoss streams for me. They are very slow and I get bored after 1-2 matches. I need some high speed APM action Maybe you are right and he will be good in future. He in korea training? Does he play GSL or other korea tournaments? It would be cool to see good foreigner in korea agian like IdrA or Jinro back in WoL | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:43 Mozdk wrote: Results from which tournaments? He hasn't been playing the EU/NA tournaments yet. It's also just my opinion. I've watched all top Protoss streams. And State has some skills that none of the others come near. You should watch his stream. You'll be a believer in no time. If you ever watch streams that aren't zerg. being the best protoss streamer does not get you even close to be top foreigner... showtime/lilbow/ptitdrogo don't even stream, and Mana and others are still better. and that's only talking about protoss players, he is not even top 20 foreigners imo | ||
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Oh sorry I forgot. Mistake happen. I make mistake away "It would be cool to see good foreigner in korea agian like HUK, idra or jinro back in WoL " | ||
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That wasn't the argument. The argument was about if he was going to get stomped by Scarlett. If she was a big favorite or not. And I believe not. And I have argued my case in several posts. And I'm done now, and I'm just going to watch the game. Should be this stream: http://www.twitch.tv/esportshtv | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:51 coL.hendralisk wrote: no one likes complainers but seriously? running the SEA/SA qualifiers with no advantage for winners in a double elim bracket.. not seeding the NA bracket and having it be really lopsided.. single elim for EU.. banning masa even though he should be able to play + probably more things just baffles me how a big tournament are making nonsense decisions and seemingly going backwards It's Dreamhack, the kings of terrible formats. What did you expect, them to make a decision that made sense? Its pretty clear they don't really care too much about SC2 anyways, so its not surprising. | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:51 coL.hendralisk wrote: no one likes complainers but seriously? running the SEA/SA qualifiers with no advantage for winners in a double elim bracket.. not seeding the NA bracket and having it be really lopsided.. single elim for EU.. banning masa even though he should be able to play + probably more things just baffles me how a big tournament are making nonsense decisions and seemingly going backwards to busy jerking off on the cs:go tournament. don't get me wrong, i watch cs:go but dreamhack is what i hate the most: no fuck given, just keeping sc2 to attract sponsors and keep the marketing rolling. | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:52 A_needle_jog wrote: Oh sorry I forgot. Mistake happen. I make mistake away "It would be cool to see good foreigner in korea agian like HUK, idra or jinro back in WoL "He lives in Korea and has been training there for 2 years or so. He was on Prime before and tried to qualify for GSL etc. but without success so far. He is playing a lot right now though and MC will coach him once a week at his place, so I still think he should become really good in the long run. | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:51 Ppjack wrote: being the best protoss streamer does not get you even close to be top foreigner... showtime/lilbow/ptitdrogo don't even stream, and Mana and others are still better. and that's only talking about protoss players, he is not even top 20 foreigners imo Have you even seen him play? Top100 GM Kr over a loooong period of time is not top20 foreigner? ARE YOU SHITTING ME? I'd love to see a best-of series between Mana and State. I believe State has a big edge, but I'd like to see it played out. Sadly it wont happen because of servers. | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:54 Ppjack wrote: to busy jerking off on the cs:go tournament. don't get me wrong, i watch cs:go but dreamhack is what i hate the most: no fuck given, just keeping sc2 to attract sponsors and keep the marketing rolling. http://www.twitch.tv/esportshtv | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:57 Mozdk wrote: Have you even seen him play? Top100 GM Kr over a loooong period of time is not top20 foreigner? ARE YOU SHITTING ME? I'd love to see a best-of series between Mana and State. I believe State has a big edge, but I'd like to see it played out. Sadly it wont happen because of servers. Isn't Lisandro a random EU GM that is also top 100 GM KR? | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:57 Mozdk wrote: Catz has been a top 100-50 kr gm forever, he gets top 1 GM on NA with 0 effort when he plays.Have you even seen him play? Top100 GM Kr over a loooong period of time is not top20 foreigner? ARE YOU SHITTING ME? I'd love to see a best-of series between Mana and State. I believe State has a big edge, but I'd like to see it played out. Sadly it wont happen because of servers. Is he a top foreigner? | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:57 Poopi wrote: Isn't Lisandro a random EU GM that is also top 100 GM KR? Freaking Minimath was top 100 while being in Korea for studies. Not breaking into the top 50 precisely mean that State isn't the next big thing at the moment. | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:56 Musicus wrote: He lives in Korea and has been training there for 2 years or so. He was on Prime before and tried to qualify for GSL etc. but without success so far. He is playing a lot right now though and MC will coach him once a week at his place, so I still think he should become really good in the long run. Hmm that doesn't sound too good sadly | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:58 A_needle_jog wrote: Hmm that doesn't sound too good sadly Well let's see how he does in the new expansion. You should catch his stream and check him out once. He is rank 36 GM on Korea right now, not sure how much that means though. | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:58 HellHound wrote: Catz has been a top 100-50 kr gm forever, he gets top 1 GM on NA with 0 effort when he plays. Is he a top foreigner? Top1 zero effort. Then why is he not a pro gamer? | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:02 Musicus wrote: Well let's see how he does in the new expansion. You should catch his stream and check him out once. He is rank 36 GM on Korea right now, not sure how much that means though. Was he 36 before the bonus pool thing happen? GM rank means shit for some week until it fixes itself. 36 is pretty good when the ladder works well. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:03 A_needle_jog wrote: NoRegreT - Desrow. Is that the NoRegret who was at Homestory cup? Yep, that's him. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:03 A_needle_jog wrote: NoRegreT - Desrow. Is that the NoRegret who was at Homestory cup? Yes. | ||
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On January 10 2016 04:58 sAsImre wrote: Freaking Minimath was top 100 while being in Korea for studies. Not breaking into the top 50 precisely mean that State isn't the next big thing at the moment. Wasn't KR GM stacked at some point? Or was it when there were far more players in korea, it seems so easy right now :x. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:03 Mozdk wrote: Top1 zero effort. Then why is he not a pro gamer? Because he is about as good as state? | ||
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Then why are there a lot of pro gamers lower on NA ladder? | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:03 sAsImre wrote: Was he 36 before the bonus pool thing happen? GM rank means shit for some week until it fixes itself. 36 is pretty good when the ladder works well. Not sure what you mean with the bonus pool thing, but I think he was rank around 70 before the reset? Not sure, but I saw him around those ranks before when he streamed. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:05 Mozdk wrote: Passion or Poor life choices take your pick.Then why are there a lot of pro gamers lower on NA ladder? What are you even arguing for anymore :D I brought catz up as an example that top 100 gm on kr doesn't mean that much if you want to live of your skill | ||
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He was bobbing between 80 and 60 before that. For a few weeks. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:06 Musicus wrote: Not sure what you mean with the bonus pool thing, but I think he was rank around 70 before the reset? Not sure, but I saw him around those ranks before when he streamed. They didn't reset. They fucked up by locking the ladder way too early then unlocked it and gifted 200+ bonus pool to everyone. That kicked everyone out of GM and it's no filled with people with shitty mmr and basically mean shit until it's fixed. Which will probably be next season. There are players who got their 1st gm sitting in the top 50 atm in Europe. Yeah rank 70ish is what I saw too. Around "retired" ForGG's lvl. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:07 HellHound wrote: Passion or Poor life choices take your pick. What are you even arguing for anymore :D I brought catz up as an example that top 100 gm on kr doesn't mean that much if you want to live of your skill I am arguying that you can be a pro gamer with top 100 gm And that anyone who can get top100 GM on a regular basis will be able to make a good living. Pretty easily. People are acting like there are only 10 pro SC2 players. | ||
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Now we see how good State is haha. I say scarlett easy win 2:0 | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:10 A_needle_jog wrote: OH SCARLETT VERSUS STATE ! Now we see how good State is haha. I say scarlett easy win 2:0 We'll see yes Gl hf. Hope he can play with that ping. He was whining about it at first. No ravanger or muta he said. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:09 sAsImre wrote: They didn't reset. They fucked up by locking the ladder way too early then unlocked it and gifted 200+ bonus pool to everyone. That kicked everyone out of GM and it's no filled with people with shitty mmr and basically mean shit until it's fixed. Which will probably be next season. There are players who got their 1st gm sitting in the top 50 atm in Europe. Yeah rank 70ish is what I saw too. Around "retired" ForGG's lvl. Ohhh that's what happened, haha fail. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:09 Mozdk wrote: I am arguying that you can be a pro gamer with top 100 gm And that anyone who can get top100 GM on a regular basis will be able to make a good living. Pretty easily. People are acting like there are only 10 pro SC2 players. Make a living how. Where do the money come from? | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:09 Mozdk wrote: I am arguying that you can be a pro gamer with top 100 gm And that anyone who can get top100 GM on a regular basis will be able to make a good living. Pretty easily. People are acting like there are only 10 pro SC2 players. top 100 gm is shit in EU if you want to make a living as a pro. Players that are at this lvl are struggling to stay in Ogaming French only tournament. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:12 sAsImre wrote: top 100 gm is shit in EU if you want to make a living as a pro. Players that are at this lvl are struggling to stay in Ogaming French only tournament. It's Kr ffs. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:12 sAsImre wrote: top 100 gm is shit in EU if you want to make a living as a pro. Players that are at this lvl are struggling to stay in Ogaming French only tournament. Team, stream, sponsors, tournaments. | ||
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And how do you make any income in KR? State isn't getting any Olimoleague Money, not even thinking about GSL/SSL. You can live the progamer dream but you aren't exactly winning any esports dollars. I actually respect his choice but you precisely don't go to Kr for money. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:14 sAsImre wrote: And how do you make any income in KR? State isn't getting any Olimoleague Money, not even thinking about GSL/SSL. You can live the progamer dream but you aren't exactly winning any esports dollars. Well State is living off streaming without a team. As a rank 80 ish player. So ofc you can do it easy with a team. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:16 A_needle_jog wrote: It is such a pleasure to watch Scarlett. So many workes and that creep spread. Great timing on the Lurker. Scarlett is uber-human haha korean? | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:16 A_needle_jog wrote: It is such a pleasure to watch Scarlett. So many workes and that creep spread. Great timing on the Lurker. Scarlett is uber-human haha 91 drones and a purple map. Classic Scarlett. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:17 Poopi wrote: Brasilians players were top90 KR, KR doesn't seem to mean much now haha It's not like there are 200 innovation class players in korea :D | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:17 Poopi wrote: Brasilians players were top90 KR, KR doesn't seem to mean much now haha it has always been the same. High GM KR is insane, the mark varying but like if you're top 50 you're pretty good apparently. On the other hand Departure was top 16 and struggled a lot in actual tournaments. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:17 Poopi wrote: Brasilians players were top90 KR, KR doesn't seem to mean much now haha When you say "players" you mean exactly Kelazhur. And last I checked he was a pro gamers. So you are arguying against me, with an argument that supports me. Thank you. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:16 Shellshock wrote: sorry a_needle_jog. looks like everyone knows your hydra lurker strat now It was scarlett who played She is so good. Like I feel she always does the right thing and doesn't waste time. I cannot explain but when I have 20 units at 5 minutes then scarlett has 28 units at 5 minutes. Scarlett very small downtime and very effective actions she is doing. I wish scarlett would upload replays for me to watch and study | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:18 Squat wrote: Well, at least we have confirmation that State's time in Korea has indeed transformed him into the undisputed foreign hope. He is korean now he can no longer be the hope. And that is the only reason he isn't the foreign hope. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:19 A_needle_jog wrote: It was scarlett who played She is so good. Like I feel she always does the right thing and doesn't waste time. I cannot explain but when I have 20 units at 5 minutes then scarlett has 28 units at 5 minutes. Scarlett very small downtime and very effective actions she is doing. I wish scarlett would upload replays for me to watch and study if she plays WCS you'll get some. And I confirm that her pov is very very interesting. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:19 HellHound wrote: He is korean now he can no longer be the hope. And that is the only reason he isn't the foreign hope. He became hopetorture? D: | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:17 Poopi wrote: Brasilians players were top90 KR, KR doesn't seem to mean much now haha Don't be that focused on ladder. Pro players don't pay attention to ranking, it is just everyday practice outside CG and tournaments. For example, Stephano used to quit a ladder game if he was not satisfied with injections or other stuff. He could try 10 times in a row a specific build order just to know if it was worth it. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:19 Mozdk wrote: When you say "players" you mean exactly Kelazhur. And last I checked he was a pro gamers. So you are arguying against me, with an argument that supports me. Thank you. The argument stems from misunderstanding , you think making ends meet is good enough. Rest of us do not. | ||
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wtf happened to Rainbow? | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:19 sAsImre wrote: if she plays WCS you'll get some. And I confirm that her pov is very very interesting. Thank you for making me hope. I will look forward to it | ||
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I don't think seeing LotV ultras will make him come back :D On January 10 2016 05:22 A_needle_jog wrote: Thank you for making me hope. I will look forward to it You can get a few from the Nation Wars 3 replay pack too = | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:19 Mozdk wrote: When you say "players" you mean exactly Kelazhur. And last I checked he was a pro gamers. So you are arguying against me, with an argument that supports me. Thank you. What no? He said top 100 KR GM is shit in EU and you said "it's KR" like top 100 KR is amazing and I said it's not xd. Idc much about the debate on livings and such, it's obviously depending on where you live. Pro players from Poland make a lot of money if you consider the mean salary in Poland, but for Swiss it'd be hard. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:23 Poopi wrote: What no? He said top 100 KR GM is shit in EU and you said "it's KR" like top 100 KR is amazing and I said it's not xd. Idc much about the debate on livings and such, it's obviously depending on where you live. Pro players from Poland make a lot of money if you consider the mean salary in Poland, but for Swiss it'd be hard. The best place right now is probably somewhere in EU with a good internet connection and quite a low living cost. Would be fun to determine exactly where. Not far from an airport is pretty cool too. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:23 HellHound wrote: fast third sentry blink stalker all in with 4 gas or chargelot immotal ? Sentry is to prevent Baneling/Ling all in. It happens sometimes on korea. When you have sentry then zerg cannot go up that little ramp between mainbase and third I often use Baneling versus protoss on central protocol it works very well they are never prepared. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:23 Poopi wrote: What no? He said top 100 KR GM is shit in EU and you said "it's KR" like top 100 KR is amazing and I said it's not xd. Idc much about the debate on livings and such, it's obviously depending on where you live. Pro players from Poland make a lot of money if you consider the mean salary in Poland, but for Swiss it'd be hard. "top 100 gm is shit in EU if you want to make a living as a pro." How would that mean that top 100 Kr GM is shit on EU GM. I don't think that's what he meant. At least it's not what he wrote. | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:25 A_needle_jog wrote: Sentry is to prevent Baneling/Ling all in. It happens sometimes on korea. When you have sentry then zerg cannot go up that little ramp between mainbase and third I often use Baneling versus protoss on central protocol it works very well they are never prepared. How often do you get central btw? I have 3 games on it out of 300 | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:25 A_needle_jog wrote: Sentry is to prevent Baneling/Ling all in. It happens sometimes on korea. When you have sentry then zerg cannot go up that little ramp between mainbase and third I often use Baneling versus protoss on central protocol it works very well they are never prepared. I think sentries are a bit underused right now. If you don't go stargate getting the hallucinated scout is awesome. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
Is overlord sacking a thing of the past? | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:26 Topin wrote: is chargelots/archon how PvZ is played in korea? played everywhere. chargelots/archon/immortal | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:26 Topin wrote: is chargelots/archon how PvZ is played in korea? Yes but it's timing based. Very powerful around 8 mins. At 12 it's gg. | ||
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Poopi
France12909 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:20 Ppjack wrote: Don't be that focused on ladder. Pro players don't pay attention to ranking, it is just everyday practice outside CG and tournaments. For example, Stephano used to quit a ladder game if he was not satisfied with injections or other stuff. He could try 10 times in a row a specific build order just to know if it was worth it. When Stephano was in his prime he was doing 61-2 runs and things like that. When Bomber and MarineKing were tearing it up in the GSL they also destroyed the ladder. The top of the ladder always meant something, it's just that some players were too predictable or too nervous in tourneys but the ladder has been quite a good indicator of form :o | ||
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Topin
Peru10104 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:27 sAsImre wrote: played everywhere. chargelots/archon/immortal really? how you deal with lurkers? | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:26 Mozdk wrote: Too many phoenix lost. Is overlord sacking a thing of the past? depends on skill level. Scarlett is really good and knows the game like a hand knows a fitting glove. She can read what happens without scouting. I always scout because I am afraid haha :D | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
Also I think state will die to counter | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
you go with a decent concave. you kill everything and then immortals/archons are left and destroy lurkers. If the Z stands on top of them there is some nice splash. It obviously doesn't work against mass lurker but you can transition into everything while going for some harassment. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
You kill zerg before lurkers. Or when he/she has very few. | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:29 Solar424 wrote: DT's after forcing spores everywhere may not have been the best idea BUT BISU | ||
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Topin
Peru10104 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:30 Musicus wrote: That looked easy. its scary | ||
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Scarlett`
Canada2393 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:30 Musicus wrote: That looked easy. my build is designed to destroy exactly what he did ~_~ | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:28 Penev wrote: Why are these casters calling her Shura? She didn't actually change her name did she? She's still deciding, or something. It's twitter official but no one really calls her that yet | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:30 sAsImre wrote: Good to see some Scarlett action. 500 games isn't a lot but pretty cool to see her play enough to be one of the best players in NA 500 games? On ladder? | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
yeah she has 500 ladder games. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
Apparently you don't. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:31 Acer.Scarlett` wrote: my build is designed to destroy exactly what he did ~_~ Even respecting the delay. A literal god | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:31 Acer.Scarlett` wrote: my build is designed to destroy exactly what he did ~_~ Shura. On January 10 2016 05:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: She's still deciding, or something. It's twitter official but no one really calls her that yet Solved? | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:31 Acer.Scarlett` wrote: my build is designed to destroy exactly what he did ~_~ Gg. | ||
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Poopi
France12909 Posts
Why does State has such a high ping btw? Funny and sad at the same time how Scarlett in spite of being zerg and ravagers being super big splitted better than a top european T today vs disruptors, I guess some days you are off tho. | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: She's still deciding, or something. It's twitter official but no one really calls her that yet Hmm, k. I hope she decides not to then | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:32 Poopi wrote: Didn't catch the very end, did Scarlett win? Why does State has such a high ping btw? Funny and sad at the same time how Scarlett in spite of being zerg and ravagers being super big splitted better than a top european T today vs disruptors, I guess some days you are off tho. if we're talking about Kas he has splitting issues in general imo. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:32 Poopi wrote: Didn't catch the very end, did Scarlett win? Why does State has such a high ping btw? Funny and sad at the same time how Scarlett in spite of being zerg and ravagers being super big splitted better than a top european T today vs disruptors, I guess some days you are off tho. Scarlett won. State is playing from Korea. | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:32 Poopi wrote: Didn't catch the very end, did Scarlett win? Why does State has such a high ping btw? Funny and sad at the same time how Scarlett in spite of being zerg and ravagers being super big splitted better than a top european T today vs disruptors, I guess some days you are off tho. Scarlett completely dominated State. It was a pleasure to watch. Very high level zerg play | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
Kifire going to take down the winner of Scarlett/HuK ez | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:31 Acer.Scarlett` wrote: my build is designed to destroy exactly what he did ~_~ Yeah, MC just told State this week that he should stop with his Stalker play and do chargelot/archon/Immortal. Your build looks like the perfect counter indeed. I loved how you build more lings in game 2 to counter the disruptors .Can you tell us at which time you want how many lurkers out to stop the first big chargelot push? | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:34 Shellshock wrote: http://aligulac.com/players/1492-KiFirE/ Kifire going to take down the winner of Scarlett/HuK ez oh god those stats :o | ||
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Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:34 Shellshock wrote: http://aligulac.com/players/1492-KiFirE/ Kifire going to take down the winner of Scarlett/HuK ez Aligulac says "Terran leading 5%" What does that mean? | ||
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Poopi
France12909 Posts
Yeah I'm talking about Kas (I don't think many streamed these very games), I noticed some suspect splits against disruptors in Nation Wars (probably against USA?) but I thought it was because of ping or whatever. | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:36 A_needle_jog wrote: Aligulac says "Terran leading 5%" What does that mean? 100% irrelevant protoss was laggin during blink all in era 2014 in that stat :D | ||
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p4ch1n0
Germany38 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:34 A_needle_jog wrote: Scarlett completely dominated State. It was a pleasure to watch. Very high level zerg play No, it's 5 am for state and he has a bad ping. That excuses everything. /s Edit: actually not /s 270 ms i huge | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:36 Poopi wrote: I know State is playing from Korea but I think I saw this Scan guy play from Korea on EU Central with 130-150 ping, how can State have 300 on NA? o_o Yeah I'm talking about Kas (I don't think many streamed these very games), I noticed some suspect splits against disruptors in Nation Wars (probably against USA?) but I thought it was because of ping or whatever. he had awful splits against Balrog, manager/writer for aAa today too. Not a ping issue imo. And I like Kas but his splits aren't progamer level :'( | ||
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28512 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Scorched https://twitter.com/TLstuchiu/status/685923046515814406 Nice one | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:36 Poopi wrote: I know State is playing from Korea but I think I saw this Scan guy play from Korea on EU Central with 130-150 ping, how can State have 300 on NA? o_o Yeah I'm talking about Kas (I don't think many streamed these very games), I noticed some suspect splits against disruptors in Nation Wars (probably against USA?) but I thought it was because of ping or whatever. Because: There are different NA servers. Some (or one) of them are particularly bad from Korea. | ||
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France9263 Posts
the sad part is that if Blizzcon was right now it'd be interesting. In 10months the best koreans might be untouchable... | ||
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
what am I supposed to have for stats, when I play every tournament and lose to strong players 99% of the time and they dont count the first few rounds lol. All those games vs Soulkey, byul. etc Should count for something in terms of experience =P Anyways since I play protoss I can beat scarlett and huk... | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:40 KiF1rE wrote: what am I supposed to have for stats, when I play every tournament and lose to strong players 99% of the time and they dont count the first few rounds lol. Anyways since I play protoss I can beat scarlett and huk... I believe in you | ||
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France12909 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:38 sAsImre wrote: he had aweful splits against Balrog, manager/writer for aAa today too. Not a ping issue imo. And I like Kas but his splits aren't progamer level :'( Yeah I saw the games against Balrog and it was on EU so no ping indeed, and you talked about TvZ issues too, kinda weird since afaik he comes from Warcraft 3 and most pros coming from it are strong micro wise. Thanksfully for him his multitask is good when being the agressor. The bracket looks funnily sad with HuK and Scarlett having to face that early, but hey you got double elim at least :x. | ||
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Belgium489 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:40 KiF1rE wrote: what am I supposed to have for stats, when I play every tournament and lose to strong players 99% of the time and they dont count the first few rounds lol. All those games vs Soulkey, byul. etc Should count for something in terms of experience =P Anyways since I play protoss I can beat scarlett and huk... haha noone meant to be rude :D good luck ! | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:40 KiF1rE wrote: what am I supposed to have for stats, when I play every tournament and lose to strong players 99% of the time and they dont count the first few rounds lol. All those games vs Soulkey, byul. etc Should count for something in terms of experience =P Anyways since I play protoss I can beat scarlett and huk... Now I'm rooting for you for sure <3 | ||
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Baggins
Canada86 Posts
RNG! | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:43 Baggins wrote: The fact that Huk and Scarlett are on the same side of the bracket is silly RNG!now we know what hearthstone players feel like! | ||
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Ppjack
Belgium489 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:43 Baggins wrote: The fact that Huk and Scarlett are on the same side of the bracket is silly RNG!you should have seen the EU bracket... it was just silly, no other words | ||
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France12909 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:40 KiF1rE wrote: what am I supposed to have for stats, when I play every tournament and lose to strong players 99% of the time and they dont count the first few rounds lol. All those games vs Soulkey, byul. etc Should count for something in terms of experience =P Anyways since I play protoss I can beat scarlett and huk... Yeah it's sad (edit: for up-and-comers) that only the later rounds count because only top players have a good winrate with such a system, a bit like only highest GM (or lowest bronze) players got more (less) than a 50% winrate. Gl in the rest of the tournament | ||
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Canada86 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:45 Ppjack wrote: you should have seen the EU bracket... it was just silly, no other words What were some of the seeding "highlights" there? | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
HuK played very very bad yesterday. I don't think he has gotten much better over the night, but I hope he can surprise to deliver some challenge for Scarlett | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:50 A_needle_jog wrote: HuK - Scarlett next HuK played very very bad yesterday. I don't think he has gotten much better over the night, but I hope he can surprise to deliver some challenge for Scarlett HuK is still a scary opponent in any shape imo. | ||
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28512 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:50 Baggins wrote: What were some of the seeding "highlights" there? RO128 Elazer - Nerchio. RIP Artur | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:49 argonautdice wrote: great now no english stream for HuK vs Scarlett why? ;_; TakeTV is an official DH stream, the others aren't. Therefore Huk can kick the other streamers if he wants. It's dumb but that's the rules | ||
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Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:51 sAsImre wrote: HuK is still a scary opponent in any shape imo. definitely didn't look like it yesterday | ||
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France15997 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:50 Baggins wrote: What were some of the seeding "highlights" there? + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BM35t2K.png) | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:55 Penev wrote: Why isn't Nate an official stream come on Obama haha Obama  | ||
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Netherlands8010 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:01 Musicus wrote: Scarlett's lurker spread and unburrow micro is the only big thing that could be better I think. Doesn't seem to matter versus Huk, but yeah it could be a lot cleaner | ||
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Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:01 Musicus wrote: Scarlett's lurker spread and unburrow micro is the only big thing that could be better I think. true but that is really hard. Inject, building units, creep, micro other units and attacking all take very much APM. Even with shift it is hard to burrow lurker perfectly. Takes really a lot of micro ! | ||
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On January 10 2016 05:55 Penev wrote: Why isn't Nate an official stream come on Obama this is the only thing I can think of whenever I hear something like this | ||
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Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:05 SoleSteeler wrote: Haha huk shot a disruptor shot into his own army that is HuK like we know and love him | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:06 A_needle_jog wrote: that is HuK like we know and love him I just have to say that I can't believe that your creep spread is as good as it is, even in PvZ, where a lot of players spread way less creep than in TvZ. | ||
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On January 10 2016 06:04 Alchemik wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPXLZ5hWM20 this is the only thing I can think of whenever I hear something like this Haha | ||
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On January 10 2016 06:06 Penev wrote: Scarlett is looking good, I hope she becomes a big foreign hope again and her wrists don't explode A foreign hope we might even get to see play Koreans once a year. | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:10 TheDougler wrote: What stream is HuK v Scarlett on? http://www.twitch.tv/taketv It is sadly in german language english stream have difficulties basetradeTV. I think they destroyed hammer | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:08 Elentos wrote: A foreign hope we might even get to see play Koreans once a year. This kills my boner for any foreign player, we won't even see them take on Koreans, it hurts my heart | ||
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Canada8306 Posts
On January 10 2016 05:45 argonautdice wrote: now we know what hearthstone players feel like! I think there's a pretty good chance they'll both still qualify, long as Neeb or GodKifire don't crush their dreams. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Scarlett's crushing this bracket goddamn. So nice to see :D This is the SGTK curse. I say something nice about her and she suddenly starts losing D: | ||
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On January 10 2016 06:11 Arvendilin wrote: This kills my boner for any foreign player, we won't even see them take on Koreans, it hurts my heart What I really miss is the times when there were foreigners who dared to practice and participate in Korea. All WCS's except the first one destroyed that unfortunately.. Props to State ofc | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
Edit : WOW that lurker unborrow and split to avoid disruptor death ball was insane fast ! | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:18 A_needle_jog wrote: HuK giving Scarlett too much time to recover, he is throwing game This game ended a while ago dude, He isn't throwing anything | ||
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Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: This game ended a while ago dude, He isn't throwing anything haha yeah he just moved out when I wrote message. It looked like he was passive, but then attack. Unlucky timing on my side of posting | ||
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Germany1878 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:16 Penev wrote: What I really miss is the times when there were foreigners who dared to practice and participate in Korea. All WCS's except the first one destroyed that unfortunately.. Props to State ofc Yea, goddamn I'd be actually super hyped for a foreigner in a long time, if they were in a Korean team, practicing, trying to get in the GSL maybe even playing for ProLeague, that would be soooo freaking sick! Props to State, I'm a giant fan of his, sadly he isn't in a Korean team anymore and he isn't one of the top foreigners, just imagine if a Snute would do that, how sick that would be! | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:20 Shellshock wrote: huk about to show us why he should have been #3 with aggressive pylons, super fast DTs, and a 3rd off of 1 gateway | ||
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On January 10 2016 06:21 Topdoller wrote: Two nice games so far by Huk and Shura "Shura" D: I don't like change | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:18 A_needle_jog wrote: HuK giving Scarlett too much time to recover, he is throwing game Edit : WOW that lurker unborrow and split to avoid disruptor death ball was insane fast ! Such a fanboy :D | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:22 Ppjack wrote: german sounds so close to english to my ears, i had never noticed Afterall Enlgish is a germanic language that had a bit too much fun with french  EDIT: Ohh and in casting they use a lot of english words, because they sound better (like Stalker instead of Hetzer) or terms like runby that they just don't translate! | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:21 Aocowns wrote: with aggressive pylons, super fast DTs, and a 3rd off of 1 gateway Whatever works man | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
yes ^_____________________________^ I only love Jaedong more | ||
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Belgium489 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:24 A_needle_jog wrote: yes ^_____________________________^ I only love Jaedong more Not Stephano ? wow, it hurts | ||
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On January 10 2016 06:20 Arvendilin wrote: Yea, goddamn I'd be actually super hyped for a foreigner in a long time, if they were in a Korean team, practicing, trying to get in the GSL maybe even playing for ProLeague, that would be soooo freaking sick! Props to State, I'm a giant fan of his, sadly he isn't in a Korean team anymore and he isn't one of the top foreigners, just imagine if a Snute would do that, how sick that would be! Snute, Scarlett who else. Maybe the mystery foreigner(s) (Duran brothers)? | ||
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United States97276 Posts
PLAY TO WIN! | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:24 Mozdk wrote: Is there any English cast of HuK - Scarscar? No. HuK didn't allow any non-official streams. BasetradeTV is the official english stream, but they have problem with technical side. So the only official stream is from TakeTV and that is german. Bad organization from Dreamhack | ||
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On January 10 2016 06:22 Ppjack wrote: german sounds so close to english to my ears, i had never noticed Are you Flemish or Wallonian? | ||
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On January 10 2016 06:25 Penev wrote: Snute, Scarlett who else. Maybe the mystery foreigner(s) (Duran brothers)? Well for them beeing even slightly competitive its that plus like whoever is standing atop in europe currently (which changes a lot it seems?), Nerchio would be fun aswell But I would also be hyped about almost any good player going over there (like people of the ShoWtime calliber) | ||
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Belgium489 Posts
french part. i speak french and bit of spanish/dutch/english | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
GG by Scarlett. Winning with creep in her opponents base | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:29 Arvendilin wrote: Currently it's Mlord Serral and their boss Nerchio FirecakeWell for them beeing even slightly competitive its that plus like whoever is standing atop in europe currently (which changes a lot it seems?), Nerchio would be fun aswell But I would also be hyped about almost any good player going over there (like people of the ShoWtime calliber) | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
#1 -- Juggling stalkers with a warp prism to defend a mineral-line assailing Liberator #2 -- Taking a ninja/rock protected Nexus then using his MSC to recall probes to saturate it | ||
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On January 10 2016 06:29 Ppjack wrote: french part. i speak french and bit of spanish/dutch/english Interesting. I'm Dutch so for me it's different. I wonder if more French speakers discover German in the English language | ||
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France9263 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:31 Tenks wrote: Damn anyone watching these next level tactics by Puck? #1 -- Juggling stalkers with a warp prism to defend a mineral-line assailing Liberator #2 -- Taking a ninja/rock protected Nexus then using his MSC to recall probes to saturate it the second one isn't anything special at all. Dodging shots with the warp prism is some cool micro tho. | ||
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United States3104 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:33 sAsImre wrote: the second one isn't anything special at all. Dodging shots with the warp prism is some cool micro tho. First time I've seen the recall. Maybe I just don't watch enough Protoss. | ||
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Penev
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On January 10 2016 06:33 sAsImre wrote: the second one isn't anything special at all. Dodging shots with the warp prism is some cool micro tho. I hope the mystery foreigner turns out to be Grubby. I feel this expansion would suit him well | ||
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Germany1878 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:35 Penev wrote: I hope the mystery foreigner turns out to be Grubby. I feel this expansion would suit him well Idk, Grubby was more about micro and strategy than multitasking and macro, annnd Protoss got a lot more multitasking heavy it feels like! Also iirc he recently said on stream that he felt physically sick when logging into SC2 sooooooooo yea doesn't sound too good! | ||
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France9263 Posts
On January 10 2016 06:34 Tenks wrote: First time I've seen the recall. Maybe I just don't watch enough Protoss. watch more Has :D the most hilarious thing is when he did this recall to get his probes in the natural of a terran he just had proxied with tempests :D | ||
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On January 10 2016 06:36 Arvendilin wrote: Idk, Grubby was more about micro and strategy than multitasking and macro, annnd Protoss got a lot more multitasking heavy it feels like! Also iirc he recently said on stream that he felt physically sick when logging into SC2 sooooooooo yea doesn't sound too good! Physically sick? That rules him out for sure then, wow Erm, I take it HTOMario has a double passport? | ||
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imre
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On January 10 2016 06:39 Penev wrote: Physically sick? That rules him out for sure then, wow Erm, I take it HTOMario has a double passport? Or a flag that's not forbidden. I really hope he has an american citizenship because that would be quite a scandal. | ||
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On January 10 2016 06:48 sAsImre wrote: Why would it be a scandal?Or a flag that's not forbidden. I really hope he has an american citizenship because that would be quite a scandal. Does he not citezenship in his home country?/Is his home country not eligible for wcs? | ||
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On January 10 2016 06:58 HellHound wrote: Why would it be a scandal? Does he not citezenship in his home country?/Is his home country not eligible for wcs? Not eligible for the passport qualifier of NA. | ||
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On January 10 2016 06:58 HellHound wrote: Why would it be a scandal? Does he not citezenship in his home country?/Is his home country not eligible for wcs? It's the American qualifier. Damn Artur, why didn't you go for this one!? | ||
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On January 10 2016 06:59 sAsImre wrote: Not eligible for the passport qualifier of NA. Rules too dumb :D how hard is it to just make it so you can play the region that is your place of permanent residence and leave it that | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:06 Fyzar wrote: Mcanning hype! I was rooting for kifire.. :/ | ||
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I was rooting for Chris! :D | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:06 Fyzar wrote: Mcanning hype! Indeed man! What a story would it be if he would get the bapid trip to Leipzig. Only 1 win away. | ||
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I'm not done yet though, So pick up that flag and wave it. Cheer!!!!!!! Pretty far into the loser bracket though, so it will be an hour or two =D | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:09 KiF1rE wrote: I'm not done yet though, So pick up that flag and wave it. ROOT!!!!!!! Pretty far into the loser bracket though, so it will be an hour or two =D edit not sure how i did this double post thing sorry. | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:09 Shellshock wrote: What cheese is Scarlett susceptible to right now? DARK TEMPLARS 9 of them | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:10 Arvendilin wrote: anyone casting state vs puck? | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:10 J. Corsair wrote: Where are the South Koreans? Is this the equivalent of Special Olympics Starcraft? Presumably they are in South Korea, which would explain why they aren't playing in the North American qualifiers. | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:12 A_needle_jog wrote: I don't like State twitter. He sounds salty. He has to grow up and accepts the rules the tournament is played in ! He's a nice person. I could have forced to cast his game as I believe the changing server is a battle.net issue but why would I ? If he is the last game/s I can cast, I will join and cast and he won't kick me but I dont need to destroy his gameplay for just being in his game when I can check other matches He just cares about gameplay, not about "not being casted" | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:13 Arvendilin wrote: expecting Scarlet to completely wreck MCanning it won't be pretty, but I will still enjoy it | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:13 Arvendilin wrote: expecting Scarlet to completely wreck MCanning Expecting the same but hoping for MCanning to whoop Scarlett with some 9DT ! | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:15 Shellshock wrote: no one cheer for the underdog anymore? MCanning upset would be great I'd cheer for you, but I guess bots aren't allowed to play. | ||
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Fyzar
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On January 10 2016 07:15 Shellshock wrote: no one cheer for the underdog anymore? MCanning upset would be great Definitely cheering for him, don't think it's too realistic though | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:15 Fyzar wrote: Expecting the same but hoping for MCanning to whoop Scarlett with some 9DT !Problem with that is that I want State to qualify, and if Scarlett loses here I don't think he has much of a chance to do so | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:12 A_needle_jog wrote: I don't like State twitter. He sounds salty. He has to grow up and accepts the rules the tournament is played in ! Ehh HuK always tells casters to get out, State tried it with Casters and it lagged (and he thinks it lagged cuz of casters which could obviously be a misjudgement) so I think its quite reasonable to ask to be castet as few times as possible, ofcourse he will accept the rules and allow the official casters should the request | ||
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Fyzar
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On January 10 2016 07:16 Arvendilin wrote: Problem with that is that I want State to qualify, and if Scarlett loses here I don't think he has much of a chance to do so Yeah idk I'd like State to qualify too, but I think it would be amazing for Mcanning to qualify like this, quite the story for him =D. | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
On January 10 2016 07:19 SoleSteeler wrote: Scarlett vs. MCanning being streamed somewhere? I believe it's gonna be on http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/eSportsHeaven | ||
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Arvendilin
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On January 10 2016 07:19 SoleSteeler wrote: Scarlett vs. MCanning being streamed somewhere? English stream is nathanias: http://www.twitch.tv/nathanias | ||
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A_needle_jog
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On January 10 2016 07:19 SoleSteeler wrote: Scarlett vs. MCanning being streamed somewhere? Tell me if you find. I observe 4 streams and look what is going on, but my eyes see nothing | ||
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Poland3244 Posts
On January 10 2016 07:20 Fyzar wrote: Yeah idk I'd like State to qualify too, but I think it would be amazing for Mcanning to qualify like this, quite the story for him =D. I would like to see him qualify too - just recently discovered his stream and very fast became one of my favs. But I also want HuK and Scarlett in there too T_T | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:21 OsaX Nymloth wrote: I would like to see him qualify too - just recently discovered his stream and very fast became one of my favs. But I also want HuK and Scarlett in there too T_T Thing is, I feel like those players will go anyways even if they don't win the qualifier spot you know, sooo McanHype ^^ | ||
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Scarlett starting ! Scarlett winning ! Scarlett fighting ! In other order | ||
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TheDougler
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On January 10 2016 07:20 Squat wrote: If you think State was tough on the casters, you never met Naniwa. CHILL GET OUT! | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:35 A_needle_jog wrote: When I watch Scarlett I actually wonder if she is the best macro player in the zerg world. So much domination. Opponents should maybe harass scarlett when she is building up. With macro games she will never lose She hasn't won yet yo he's keeping up better than I expected :D | ||
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Fyzar
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On January 10 2016 07:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I feel like Scarlett is underestimating MCanning a bit. She's playing reckless as all fuck She played pretty much the same in the series vs HuK though, no? He just dealt with it differently iirc | ||
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Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 07:36 Fyzar wrote: She hasn't won yet yo he's keeping up better than I expected :D Yeah people are definitely overestimating lurkers and underestimating charge zealot/archon/immortals. I was shocked too to see how easy MCcanning can push into 20 spines + 15 lurkers with archon immortal zealot force. | ||
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ValvE... please fix. | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:38 A_needle_jog wrote: Yeah people are definitely overestimating lurkers and underestimating charge zealot/archon/immortals. I was shocked too to see how easy MCcanning can push into 20 spines + 15 lurkers with archon immortal zealot force. I wouldn't say that ;< hate those fuckers | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:38 A_needle_jog wrote: Yeah people are definitely overestimating lurkers and underestimating charge zealot/archon/immortals. I was shocked too to see how easy MCcanning can push into 20 spines + 15 lurkers with archon immortal zealot force. Zealots are good at not dying | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:37 HellHound wrote: Nathanias solo casts are gold He's commentating with Tasteless, clearly | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
On January 10 2016 07:39 Mozdk wrote: 4 storms to kill a lurker. ValvE... please fix. I don't understand this post. It is not Valve game. Also you can target more than one unit with Storm I would recommend to not use 4 storms on one single lurker. That is bad play ! | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:41 A_needle_jog wrote: I don't understand this post. It is not Valve game. Also you can target more than one unit with Storm I would recommend to not use 4 storms on one single lurker. That is bad play ! It's a joke. Because CS streams/YT'ers always end in "ValvE... please fix" | ||
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he got so close | ||
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A_needle_jog
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He gave Scarlett a run for the dollars. But Scarlett always wins. True champion | ||
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TaKeTV
Germany1200 Posts
On January 10 2016 07:44 Arvendilin wrote: Damn MCanning playing so well! And here he was getting shit on by naruto for his not so good play vs mech =P Would you say he played well vs mech of EJK? | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:45 TaKeTV wrote: Would you say he played well vs mech of EJK? haha no he didnt =P | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:45 Mozdk wrote: I didn't watch Huk - Scarlett. Did he do anything good? Anything that wasn't pure early gateway aggression? He made DT. Worked out pretty alright. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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On January 10 2016 07:45 Mozdk wrote: I didn't watch Huk - Scarlett. Did he do anything good? Anything that wasn't pure early gateway aggression? He got disruptors too and won a game with DTs. | ||
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"Just like Batman, they are overpowered." | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:55 HellHound wrote: 0 chance of this push working I overestimated the power of this push. | ||
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Ppjack
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wcs change hurting not only the koreans but the god casters themselves ayyy | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:56 Mozdk wrote: She could have held that with half the stuff she had. And cut 12 drones earlier due to seeing late 3rd | ||
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On January 10 2016 07:57 A_needle_jog wrote: incredible stuff. I realize I need to work on my macro in Starcraft. I have no explanation as to why scarlett has so many economy and when I play I don't. I need to practice hard Optimal injects and larva is spend the insta it pops out. Her biggest force is imo not macro or creep spread or multitasking. It's understanding of timings. She's the one zerg player, that people never seem to surprise. | ||
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, really looking forward to DH now! | ||
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On January 10 2016 08:02 NarutO wrote: Last four bo3 might be PvP - stuck here forever. Damn, you can do it brother. Really enjoyed the cast as always NarutO! Sadly I will have to leave you now that Scarlett is done and it's getting late. Stay strong and give Marius some coffee. | ||
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like Frodo to Mordor when Protoss units cross t'map Shura cuts them to kebab With queens and lings about there is no need to scout got godlike game sense by far she is the best in craft of Star. | ||
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Belgium489 Posts
On January 10 2016 08:04 A_needle_jog wrote: Scarlett crushing in your door like Frodo to Mordor when Protoss units cross t'map Shura cuts them to kebab With queens and lings about there is no need to scout got godlike game sense by far she is the best in craft of Star. best thread of my life, forever stay here <3 | ||
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loving it! | ||
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Ppjack
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2) circle jerk to infinite 3) pick a race 4) repeat #2 5) post what goes through your mind with no more explanation with #1 and #3 in mind 6) F5 7) repeat #5 I be TL now boys | ||
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United Kingdom9872 Posts
On January 10 2016 08:18 DMXD wrote: trash talking in puck vs bent loving it! If it was smart trash talk it would be entertaining, but it's just stupid. Watching NA Terrans seems a traumatic experience. Edit: ok it's funnier in game 2. | ||
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TheDougler
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Hope HuK can complete the Canadian sweep. Puck, Jonsnow, and Neeb are pretty good though. Edit: Oh um I mean, KiFirE too. That's one crazy mofo. <3 <3. | ||
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On January 10 2016 08:29 DMXD wrote: nat's solo casting top tier It's amazing | ||
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He can talking super fast I only understand half of it then haha | ||
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Fyzar
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On January 10 2016 08:39 A_needle_jog wrote: As a Zerg player it looked like Terran played not bad, but Protoss won very easily. Is my game sense off in that matchup by observation? it is hard to tell because I don't know much about PvT sorry Every ZvP I watch is that ;< e; but nah his early push did nothing and his third was kinda late even though puck's attack failed too | ||
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Rollora
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On January 10 2016 08:29 DMXD wrote: nat's solo casting top tier his shitting on toss or in general? | ||
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On January 10 2016 08:40 Fyzar wrote: Every ZvP I watch is that ;< e; but nah his early push did nothing and his third was kinda late even though puck's attack failed too well the toss didn't even need units to defend vs 12 marines, he just made 2 pylons at the ramp. Its ridiculous. It should at least be buildings that have no other purpose then attack/defense. Like cannons | ||
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Ansibled
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On January 10 2016 08:45 Rollora wrote: well the toss didn't even need units to defend vs 12 marines, he just made 2 pylons at the ramp. Its ridiculous. It should at least be buildings that have no other purpose then attack/defense. Like cannons As opposed to before where he would have just overcharged the Nexus? | ||
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Rollora
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On January 10 2016 08:46 Phredxor wrote: People like to shit on Koreans when they won't let people cast their games. Anyone gonna go after Huk for it? noone should copy his top 3 control. I understand that | ||
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Rollora
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On January 10 2016 08:46 Ansibled wrote: As opposed to before where he would have just overcharged the Nexus? TBH I always thought overcharge is strong, but being able to spam it and spread it easily across the whole base is kinda stupid. 2-3 pylons and you are safe. So there is a difference: its easily 2-3x more powerful while costing less whats up with the tasteless thing? | ||
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On January 10 2016 09:05 Alchemik wrote: I'm jealous of how easy it seems to be to do accents as a person from an english-speaking country Can't you do a Szczecin accent? | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On January 10 2016 09:05 Alchemik wrote: I'm jealous of how easy it seems to be to do accents as a person from an english-speaking country Yeah, but you Europeans actually know how to speak in the other peoples' languages, not just imitating their accents, so it evens out. | ||
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Undead1993
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On January 10 2016 09:56 Acer.Scarlett` wrote: these 2 are best na players right now @_@ eu > na? | ||
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On January 10 2016 10:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote: All the silvery stuff everywhere makes these battles really hard to track visually. Tempests are terrible looking units. On the bright side though look at how colourful the map is. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/mpVOF/71bfe7268d.png) | ||
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neeb might lose this too many probes neeb noooo not like this, this game will never end | ||
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Undead1993
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On January 10 2016 10:06 A_needle_jog wrote: Are there any more Scarlett games today ?no, scarlett is through here is the bracket: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_DreamHack_Open/Leipzig/Qualifiers/North_America | ||
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On January 10 2016 10:06 A_needle_jog wrote: Are there any more Scarlett games today ?Don't think so. She qualified already. | ||
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Phredxor
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PvP hype.. | ||
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I kinda hope we go 2-1 in both series with the exact same type of games though. Just so we can see Nate go crazy. | ||
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On January 10 2016 10:14 Phredxor wrote: Well that was awful. I kinda hope we go 2-1 in both series with the exact same type of games though. Just so we can see Nate go crazy. Its 2:14AM here - I started at NOON. If we go 2-1 both series the winner certainly qualifies for more than Dreamhack. | ||
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On January 10 2016 10:14 NarutO wrote: Its 2:14AM here - I started at NOON. If we go 2-1 both series the winner certainly qualifies for more than Dreamhack. Oh jesus, I forgot about the German cast D: Bring on the blink stalker all ins! | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On January 10 2016 10:17 SupLilSon wrote: Last time I played sc Neeb was a Terran player.. Not surprised to see ex Terrans playing Protoss better than the Protoss players tho. neeb is the foreign Classic. | ||
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On January 10 2016 10:22 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Proxying one of the six gateways is a... creative decision? its for the quicker warpin. | ||
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Oh right that makes sense. | ||
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Also grats to MCanning for getting to the WB finals :o that's insanely impressive from him (though the competition between the upper bracket and lower bracket is definitely noticable) | ||
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On January 10 2016 11:29 argonautdice wrote: yeah Scarlett played 6 series to qualify, Neeb played 11 just because he lost first series against State. Seems fair to me. Worked his way all the way from the bottom of the loser's bracket. That determination though! Will be cheering for Neeb in the main tourney. | ||
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On January 10 2016 14:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote: neeb gonna be the NA Classic I guess He was a strong terran too :D | ||
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imre
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yeah his ro16 in WCS NA with a shit ton of Koreans was really impressive. I'm really happy that he got the slot, he wouldn't have been at DH without it and he's clearly Murica's hope. | ||
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If this qualifier was based on citizenship (MaSa case), why is HTOMario sporting a Belgian flag on Liquipedia? | ||
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p68
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On January 11 2016 01:04 OtherWorld wrote: Wait If this qualifier was based on citizenship (MaSa case), why is HTOMario sporting a Belgian flag on Liquipedia? I'm pretty sure HTOMario is a permanent resident of the USA. | ||
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On January 13 2016 07:14 p68 wrote: I'm pretty sure HTOMario is a permanent resident of the USA. MaSa is a permanent resident of Canada. He was excluded because he doesn't have citizenship (and he likely won't get it any time soon either). | ||
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FromTheShadowsICome
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I live in Germany, in Munich, it's a small town for me, I don't understand yet, how to meet people here. Somebody is going to Leipzig and looking for a party? I don't wanna go there on my own. Don't speak much German and don't know the country... | ||
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