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fezvez
France3021 Posts
On January 04 2016 12:47 Fecalfeast wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tl-community/95875-the-automated-ban-list?page=2640#52794 Yo, you rock. After I posted, and went to the autobahn list, but it was not really informative. You're much more efficient | ||
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Philozovic
France1677 Posts
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heqat
Switzerland96 Posts
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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Elentos
55561 Posts
On January 04 2016 18:10 Aeromi wrote: If you want to give feedbacks please do it If you keep the format next time pls have the finalists use their 4th player instead of double revive (I know this time that was hard because it was online) :3 | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On January 04 2016 18:10 Aeromi wrote: If you want to give feedbacks please do it Better time for Koreans so we don't see this BS again(both reactions from people and quality of games). If it's online again you can split it into 2 days or plan it so the final set is sooner. | ||
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highsis
259 Posts
Not to downplay marinelord but Koreans played somewhat sloppy especially Parting. He does not seem to be practicing at all. | ||
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
On January 04 2016 18:33 Elentos wrote: If you keep the format next time pls have the finalists use their 4th player instead of double revive (I know this time that was hard because it was online) :3 Paying 4 more plane tickets is expensive but we'll look into that | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On January 04 2016 10:37 Bagration wrote: Well, Parting is definitely super good, Hydra is solid, and Innovation used to be the most dominant teamleague player in SC2. Maybe that title belongs to Marinelord now :p Parting's been missing in SC2 Korea for last several weeks. He can be super good, but right now he's not. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On January 04 2016 18:10 Aeromi wrote: If you want to give feedbacks please do it -Try to have the finals offline if possible^^ -I get that AK format is favored because of hype, personal accomplishment, etc, but with revive it makes it a bit too unfair towards teams with depth but no exceptional player. Either switch to AK without revive, or PL format (or whatever hybrid format you can come up with) -As stated by Elentos, Bo9 finals is epic and cool but double revive is kinda meh -I'm not really a fan of choosing the teams by popularity, although I understand that it's meant to draw viewers by having popular players playing. Maybe only elect one player by country (this country's "captain") and then he choses his 3 teammates himself? | ||
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Elentos
55561 Posts
On January 04 2016 18:41 highsis wrote: Congratulations. Not to downplay marinelord but Koreans played somewhat sloppy especially Parting. He does not seem to be practicing at all. He actually specifically practiced for NationWars. But yeah, didn't seem to have helped much  On January 04 2016 18:42 Aeromi wrote: Paying 4 more plane tickets is expensive but we'll look into that All I'm asking. If it turns out it's not feasible because of the cost that's sad but understandable. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On January 04 2016 18:41 highsis wrote: Congratulations. Not to downplay marinelord but Koreans played somewhat sloppy especially Parting. He does not seem to be practicing at all. Yea, but I think that's partly Korea's fault for getting into a situation where they have to put Parting on Central Protocol which most pro Protoss veto. | ||
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
On January 04 2016 18:10 Aeromi wrote: If you want to give feedbacks please do it So, time for some feedback : - There was roughly a 15 second segment where I thought "damn, perhaps I should do something with my life" - But then, I kept watching and it was awesome, and now, I have effectively done nothing with my life | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24593 Posts
On January 04 2016 18:10 Aeromi wrote: If you want to give feedbacks please do it I do think that the time schedule and all was sub-optimal for the Koreans. Obviously, that's maybe something they need to shift their sleep schedule for and whatnot, but it's not great. Also cross-server is always bad. Offline finals would solve these problems. This is maybe hard, but perhaps it would be conceivable to do what Esport-SM did with Dreamhack and partner with a tournament and play the nation finals there to off-set plane ticket and (some) venue costs? I don't like the revive system and the AK-format. Elentos (I think?) argued well for there to be a PL format instead. I also heard that O'gaming was involved in the creating of the Vichy state, is that true? If so, I am not going to watch any more. The election system to national teams is less than stellar since it makes people like Stephano get in. On the other hand perhaps that secures more viewers and thus more revenue, but it makes for less than optimal games. Perhaps just base it off of WCS points instead or something? 4-player teams would be nicer as well but it might be tough to do for many countries. On the other hand perhaps only the teams that can field a decent 4-player team deserve to actually be in a true nation wars? After all, it's about depth here. And the underdog story of some team making it through qualifiers with some relatively unknown GM/Masters player that can make a claim to fame would be really sweet. The downtime was frustrating. Not sure what the issue was and if that can be rectified or not but it always sucks. Overall a great job, thanks for the hard work and dedication : ) | ||
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icydergosu
528 Posts
On January 04 2016 11:17 WidowMineHero wrote: MarineLorD, is he THE one? For he is the Kwisatz Haderach. | ||
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kottbullar
Australia490 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On January 04 2016 19:39 Heartland wrote: .... I also heard that O'gaming was involved in the creating of the Vichy state, is that true? If so, I am not going to watch any more. ... Details, please? | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
joke about ogaming being responsible for everything btw heartland brought many good points the thing i was the most disappointed with was the voting system, because of that ptitdrogo lost his place over stephano and i was mad about it | ||
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
I do think that the time schedule and all was sub-optimal for the Koreans. Obviously, that's maybe something they need to shift their sleep schedule for and whatnot, but it's not great. Also cross-server is always bad. Offline finals would solve these problems. This is maybe hard, but perhaps it would be conceivable to do what Esport-SM did with Dreamhack and partner with a tournament and play the nation finals there to off-set plane ticket and (some) venue costs? RO4 and final was supposed to be played offline but O'Gaming had to cancel the offline part of the tournament. You can read more here : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/500698-nation-wars-iii-finals-will-take-place-online We cancel the offline part of the event less than a month before the offline part that's why we could not find a partner with a tournament. We tried and thought about every situation but at the end we decided to play the tournament in full online. I don't like the revive system and the AK-format. Elentos (I think?) argued well for there to be a PL format instead. I understand that you like ProLeague format more but the allkill format is way easier to use as a tournament organizer, for players since when they play teamleague they almost only do allkill format and for viewers it's also easier. The election system to national teams is less than stellar since it makes people like Stephano get in. On the other hand perhaps that secures more viewers and thus more revenue, but it makes for less than optimal games. Perhaps just base it off of WCS points instead or something? Countries were invited based on WCS points. The voting system has its pros/cons but at the end it allows every player to try to be selected from their countries. 4-player teams would be nicer as well but it might be tough to do for many countries. On the other hand perhaps only the teams that can field a decent 4-player team deserve to actually be in a true nation wars? After all, it's about depth here. And the underdog story of some team making it through qualifiers with some relatively unknown GM/Masters player that can make a claim to fame would be really sweet. Honestly doing 4 player teams kinda kills the spirit of the tournament, the goal of the tournament is to gather all countries and most of them do not have 4 players that can/willing to play in the tournament. There are a lot of countries with only players and they deserve to be playing this tournament even if they are only playing qualifiers. Look at Japan for example, they did not qualify but we had the opportunity to see one of the most hidden scene in the world. The downtime was frustrating. Not sure what the issue was and if that can be rectified or not but it always sucks. The downtime was the biggest default of the tournament but it was moslty because we had issues with players joining game, they have to relog, we try to invite them, it does not work, they sometimes has to reboot computers. Also, the format makes the downtime important because teams playing are talking about who's player is going to play the next match and they sometimes took more than 3 minuts. Thanks everyone for feedbacks, we'll read all of them and do better next time we do a tournament. | ||
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