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[WCS] Ro16 Day 3 - Season 3 2015 - Page 34

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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 10 2015 19:14 GMT
#661
Hydra!!!
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 10 2015 19:14 GMT
#662
I hate roach wars.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 10 2015 19:14 GMT
#663
sigh I remember 2012 when Violet was good
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 10 2015 19:14 GMT
#664
Violet getting crushed only makes me sad because env is not seeing their investment into sc. scene pay off :/
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-10 19:16:07
September 10 2015 19:14 GMT
#665
On September 11 2015 04:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 04:10 Ej_ wrote:
On September 11 2015 04:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 11 2015 04:01 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 11 2015 04:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:59 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:59 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:56 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:54 Boucot wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 hitpoint wrote:
[quote]

Well, I was hardly following it for about a year. Thank God for region lock am I right?

I mean, I was making fun of GFB, Zanster, etc being in the Ro8 but seeing 16 Koreans in the Ro16 of WCS America was way dumber.

...I enjoyed that more lol, I miss Hyun, Bomber, Alicia, MC, MMA, Stardust, San, Pigbaby, Taeja, HerO...some of those we still see but not as much and not competing together

Agreed. We had some really good ro8s and onwards. i feel like watching a bo5 between Lilbow and GFB is gonna be mind numbing lol

Won't be that bad. Lilbow should bop him probably

Gungfu has really good PvP, I give him a fairly big edge over Lilbow.

You are the first Frenchman that doesn't live and die by the baguette

I've never been much impressed by Lilbow. And I have to admit I really dislike what PvZ has become under the impulsion of French players, I miss early HotS days with phoenix...

here I'm going to start bringing up this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/461621-sc2-notes-3-base-blink-attack-pvz over a year old guide that actually reference's Classic's game from June 2014 to break the myth of French players inventing and popularising +2 blink T__T

I think PartinG and MC used versions of those builds too. But in the foreign scene French players were definitely the ones leading that trend.

1st time I saw it, it was PartinG taking an empty 3rd for a 10gate all-in on MGR.
I never really got the impression of French people popularizing it, it just felt like other foreigners later on taking after the Korean meta which started phazing out collossi in favor of just 8min 3rd with blink->storm
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 10 2015 19:14 GMT
#666
Do you believe in a thing called roach ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 10 2015 19:14 GMT
#667
violet seems he does not care at all right now
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-10 19:15:09
September 10 2015 19:14 GMT
#668
basetrade or not, zvz is still the worst mirror
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 10 2015 19:14 GMT
#669
WCS had been making me like ZvZ thus far this week, but this series was so meh.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-10 19:16:23
September 10 2015 19:14 GMT
#670
Observer didn't highlight it, but Violet was ~10 seconds away from finishing +2 attack. That clutch Contaminate won Hydra the game.

On September 11 2015 04:14 Darkhorse wrote:
sigh I remember 2012 when Violet was good


Even at his best, he wasn't that amazing.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
September 10 2015 19:14 GMT
#671
On September 11 2015 04:14 Yorkie wrote:
Violet getting crushed only makes me sad because env is not seeing their investment into sc. scene pay off :/

If they wanted it to pay off, they would partner with a good team or buy a great korean looking to go abroad
The Bomber boy
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 10 2015 19:14 GMT
#672
On September 11 2015 04:14 Darkhorse wrote:
sigh I remember 2012 when Violet was good


I really don't get how a new team went into esports and sponsored violet of all people. I mean he seems like a cool guy but it just seems weird to enter a new game and go with him as your sole player
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 10 2015 19:15 GMT
#673
On September 11 2015 04:14 Darkhorse wrote:
sigh I remember 2012 when Violet was good

yeah but then HoTS came out
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
September 10 2015 19:15 GMT
#674
On September 11 2015 04:14 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 04:14 Darkhorse wrote:
sigh I remember 2012 when Violet was good


I really don't get how a new team went into esports and sponsored violet of all people. I mean he seems like a cool guy but it just seems weird to enter a new game and go with him as your sole player

because he is likable and is based in the US. he can sell his swag easier.
The Bomber boy
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
September 10 2015 19:15 GMT
#675
On September 11 2015 04:11 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 04:03 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 11 2015 04:01 Boucot wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:59 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:56 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:54 Boucot wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:53 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:51 Yorkie wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:48 hitpoint wrote:
On September 11 2015 03:45 Yorkie wrote:
[quote]
If this is your definition of the foreign scene doing well...EU player improved greatly last year but now with region lock have stagnated and still none of them are gonna make blizzcon. And those 6-7 lesser Koreans have all shown they can compete with best at Blizzcon and back in Korea this year and they sure as hell showed much better games than what we've seen this week. The highlight of WCS this year was Polt vs Hydra, other than that it's been a wet noodle fight to see who gets crushed at the end when the Koreans remember that they're much better. I'm sorry but I really can't see how that's better than what we saw last year


Yes, all of what you said, and having a tournament that people actually care to watch. If a foreigner reaches the finals the viewers will be double. That is my definition of the foreign scene doing well.

I mean don't get me wrong the tournament needs Koreans or it doesn't feel legitimate. Even if they are lesser ones. But they need to be dropping series/being upset for it to be entertaining.

WCS season 1 finals of 2 Koreans had roughly the same viewers as season 2 finals with a foreigner. Your point is invalid. And if the only thing you find entertaining in sc. is foreigners beating Koreans then frankly I'm impressed you've hung around this long given it barely ever happens


Well, I was hardly following it for about a year. Thank God for region lock am I right?

I mean, I was making fun of GFB, Zanster, etc being in the Ro8 but seeing 16 Koreans in the Ro16 of WCS America was way dumber.

...I enjoyed that more lol, I miss Hyun, Bomber, Alicia, MC, MMA, Stardust, San, Pigbaby, Taeja, HerO...some of those we still see but not as much and not competing together

Agreed. We had some really good ro8s and onwards. i feel like watching a bo5 between Lilbow and GFB is gonna be mind numbing lol

Then call it WCS Korea 2 and make them play in Seoul but certainly not WCS America. That was just stupid.

I agree let's have GSL, S2SL, and WCS Korea. I just want Koreans all day long

I miss old Code A/Up&Down matches where we could see rising talent. Now every league has this stupid "win this Bo5 or do nothing for 3 months" format.

yea all the big Code A formats were cool, especially when they used to have a champion
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 10 2015 19:16 GMT
#676
On September 11 2015 04:14 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 04:14 Yorkie wrote:
Violet getting crushed only makes me sad because env is not seeing their investment into sc. scene pay off :/

If they wanted it to pay off, they would partner with a good team or buy a great korean looking to go abroad

yeah doesnt seem like they are making much of an effort
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 10 2015 19:16 GMT
#677
On September 11 2015 04:15 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 04:14 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 11 2015 04:14 Darkhorse wrote:
sigh I remember 2012 when Violet was good


I really don't get how a new team went into esports and sponsored violet of all people. I mean he seems like a cool guy but it just seems weird to enter a new game and go with him as your sole player

because he is likable and is based in the US. he can sell his swag easier.


But there are plenty of American players who are likable, based in the US, and can sell swag.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 10 2015 19:16 GMT
#678
Hopefully Hydra can crush Elazer to right the earlier wrong this week.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 10 2015 19:16 GMT
#679
On September 11 2015 04:16 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 04:15 Wintex wrote:
On September 11 2015 04:14 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 11 2015 04:14 Darkhorse wrote:
sigh I remember 2012 when Violet was good


I really don't get how a new team went into esports and sponsored violet of all people. I mean he seems like a cool guy but it just seems weird to enter a new game and go with him as your sole player

because he is likable and is based in the US. he can sell his swag easier.


But there are plenty of American players who are likable, based in the US, and can sell swag.

yeah but viOlet is Korean so he can win too
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 10 2015 19:17 GMT
#680
On September 11 2015 04:15 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 04:14 Darkhorse wrote:
sigh I remember 2012 when Violet was good

yeah but then HoTS came out

I think the part that really ended his skill was when he got DQ'd from two straight WCS seasons because of his visa issues in 2013.
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