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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
August 20 2015 12:41 GMT
#721
On August 20 2015 21:36 Rollora wrote:
See how you beat mech? Attack, do damage, left and right.
Still I miss a good unit mix

Stop the mech before it's too late like stop BL infestor before it happened? It's just one match up instead of 2 (late game ZvZ's were hilarious then btw) but it's reaching same levels of unfairness. It's ok/ unavoidable for late game armies to be unequal in strength but not too much pls
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
August 20 2015 12:42 GMT
#722
On August 20 2015 21:36 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:34 Rollora wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:30 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:27 ETisME wrote:
people who blame on engagement doesn't understand that the zerg doesn't have ways to engage into that and the turtling player army will only get better and thus secure base more easily.

Indeed.

thats a bold statement. He engaged over and over against the sieged up terran UP a ramp or small tunnel with 2 unit types.
He didnt make infestors for the clumbed up vikings, he didn't make other units then Queen+Ultra time (ok and Vipers).
He didnt try to tear the terran apart, what about nydus, drop etc...
There are several ways to engage this, just don't play like a robot.

I have seen a lot of late game mech vZ, Byul could've played better but that doesn't change the fact that Z is very unfavored against it

I just don't see that.
The lategame might be Terran favored, the early and mid isn't
MIGHT.
And also: with a bank of 12k7k you cannot tell me mech is great vs every unit in the game, you can tech switch, harass, drop. Use other units and don't derp into the opponent.
If mech was anbeatable everyone would play it
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 20 2015 12:42 GMT
#723
On August 20 2015 21:40 Grizvok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:38 RaFox17 wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:37 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:36 Rollora wrote:
See how you beat mech? Attack, do damage, left and right.
Still I miss a good unit mix

Yes, you can do that on a map where Mech player has to spread as much as he can to defend all of his bases, which isn't every map.

Also when mech is on 4-bases it´s a whole different story.


Uh yeah if you are going to try to break mech early they aren't going to have 4 bases.

You break them or die. Thats the point. Once they reach that 4-base phase the game starts to favour terran a lot.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 20 2015 12:42 GMT
#724
On August 20 2015 21:41 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:36 Rollora wrote:
See how you beat mech? Attack, do damage, left and right.
Still I miss a good unit mix

Stop the mech before it's too late like stop BL infestor before it happened? It's just one match up instead of 2 (late game ZvZ's were hilarious then btw) but it's reaching same levels of unfairness. It's ok/ unavoidable for late game armies to be unequal in strength but not too much pls


Dark vs BravO.
Zest fanboy.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 20 2015 12:43 GMT
#725
On August 20 2015 21:41 The_Templar wrote:
I need this series to finish in the next ~50 minutes so I can get to class on time. ByuL pls.

You're not actually in Russia are you?
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 20 2015 12:43 GMT
#726
On August 20 2015 21:41 Noonius wrote:
talking animals in commercials are idiotic

no you are
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 20 2015 12:43 GMT
#727
On August 20 2015 21:43 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:41 The_Templar wrote:
I need this series to finish in the next ~50 minutes so I can get to class on time. ByuL pls.

You're not actually in Russia are you?

No, but I was definitely in Russia in a past life.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
August 20 2015 12:44 GMT
#728
On August 20 2015 21:43 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:41 The_Templar wrote:
I need this series to finish in the next ~50 minutes so I can get to class on time. ByuL pls.

You're not actually in Russia are you?


Lying about your location should be a bannable offense
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 20 2015 12:44 GMT
#729
On August 20 2015 21:43 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:41 The_Templar wrote:
I need this series to finish in the next ~50 minutes so I can get to class on time. ByuL pls.

You're not actually in Russia are you?

He is the literal opposite
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 20 2015 12:44 GMT
#730
Chapter 2...sexy boy :o
ROGUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 20 2015 12:44 GMT
#731
On August 20 2015 21:43 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:41 Noonius wrote:
talking animals in commercials are idiotic

no you are

nice
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
August 20 2015 12:45 GMT
#732
On August 20 2015 21:42 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:41 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:36 Rollora wrote:
See how you beat mech? Attack, do damage, left and right.
Still I miss a good unit mix

Stop the mech before it's too late like stop BL infestor before it happened? It's just one match up instead of 2 (late game ZvZ's were hilarious then btw) but it's reaching same levels of unfairness. It's ok/ unavoidable for late game armies to be unequal in strength but not too much pls


Dark vs BravO.



Dark was amazing, hopefully more Zergs try that heavy Viper style out more
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
August 20 2015 12:45 GMT
#733
On August 20 2015 21:41 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:36 Rollora wrote:
See how you beat mech? Attack, do damage, left and right.
Still I miss a good unit mix

Stop the mech before it's too late like stop BL infestor before it happened? It's just one match up instead of 2 (late game ZvZ's were hilarious then btw) but it's reaching same levels of unfairness. It's ok/ unavoidable for late game armies to be unequal in strength but not too much pls

Unfortunately in SC2 its always "stop the player before he got his Composition".
Lategame TvP -> Pull tha boyz
TvZ -> if not possible to do drone damage, Zerg outmacros u -> stop that before he rolls over you.
TvZ-> mass muta ball in midgame -> if it ever comes to the point the zerg has 20+ Mutas and the rest of the armies are even, you end up running around chasing Mutas, that are faster then your stimmed marines... no chance.
ZvP -> try to kill before the toss has Storm+Colossi+ forcefields
...
I dunno for Toss vs X, I don't play it.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 20 2015 12:45 GMT
#734
at this point you can toss out the balance debates and just admit that a lot of players of all races think mech is horrific to watch, which is honestly more important than balance

i can appreciate a well played bio win over z, it's usually exciting and intense. watching scvs repair turrets and PFs isn't entertaining

it's pretty analogous to SH turtle
TL+ Member
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 20 2015 12:45 GMT
#735
On August 20 2015 21:44 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:43 c0ldfusion wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:41 The_Templar wrote:
I need this series to finish in the next ~50 minutes so I can get to class on time. ByuL pls.

You're not actually in Russia are you?


Lying about your location should be a bannable offense

I think there are quite a few of you that are lying about your location =p
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 20 2015 12:46 GMT
#736
On August 20 2015 21:45 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:44 Heartland wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:43 c0ldfusion wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:41 The_Templar wrote:
I need this series to finish in the next ~50 minutes so I can get to class on time. ByuL pls.

You're not actually in Russia are you?


Lying about your location should be a bannable offense

I think there are quite a few of you that are lying about your location =p

I actually live in Mexico.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 20 2015 12:46 GMT
#737
On August 20 2015 21:46 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:45 c0ldfusion wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:44 Heartland wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:43 c0ldfusion wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:41 The_Templar wrote:
I need this series to finish in the next ~50 minutes so I can get to class on time. ByuL pls.

You're not actually in Russia are you?


Lying about your location should be a bannable offense

I think there are quite a few of you that are lying about your location =p

I actually live in Mexico.

Sorry but your the biggest gringo ever.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 20 2015 12:47 GMT
#738
On August 20 2015 21:44 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:43 c0ldfusion wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:41 The_Templar wrote:
I need this series to finish in the next ~50 minutes so I can get to class on time. ByuL pls.

You're not actually in Russia are you?

He is the literal opposite

AISSUR?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 20 2015 12:47 GMT
#739
On August 20 2015 21:45 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:42 sAsImre wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:41 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:36 Rollora wrote:
See how you beat mech? Attack, do damage, left and right.
Still I miss a good unit mix

Stop the mech before it's too late like stop BL infestor before it happened? It's just one match up instead of 2 (late game ZvZ's were hilarious then btw) but it's reaching same levels of unfairness. It's ok/ unavoidable for late game armies to be unequal in strength but not too much pls


Dark vs BravO.



Dark was amazing, hopefully more Zergs try that heavy Viper style out more


that and Rogue's drop style looks like the more solid options atm. Then you've a tons of gimmick to end it in the mid game if you wish.
Zest fanboy.
fealx
Profile Joined September 2014
Germany376 Posts
August 20 2015 12:47 GMT
#740
get rekt mechovation
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