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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 20 2015 12:47 GMT
#741
Let's go INno!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 20 2015 12:47 GMT
#742
Innovation will be tilted
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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in_flvxx
Profile Joined March 2015
Australia226 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-20 12:49:14
August 20 2015 12:47 GMT
#743
honestly, it really feels like extreme late-game terran mech requires some near-inhumane effort from zerg to beat.

however, it also feels like innovation is the only terran capable of consistently getting there (flash vs curious series was fxxking mental tho). other terrans just don't seem to be able to either get to that stage in the game, or can't execute in that late-game consistently. i'm thinking innovation is just a really amazing player (edit: who also seems to know what he wants to do i.e. go mech because it is such an appealing option vs zerg).
Zest | herO || Life | Dark || Bomber | Maru | Dream | TY | Flash
x0x0
Profile Joined August 2015
149 Posts
August 20 2015 12:47 GMT
#744
On August 20 2015 21:36 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:31 x0x0 wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:25 Tsubbi wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:24 x0x0 wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:22 Pandemona wrote:
If you lose a professional game of sc2 having 8k 1k in the bank for 20 minutes there is something wrong.....

with your engagements and positioning...


if one player has no need to ever move across the map and can sit on all his static defense there is no way to engage for his opponent, one race having a way superior end game army is just terrible design.

Yea but whats stoping the zerg to have smart engagements and harras all over the map....he's got the bank,he's got the larva, he's got the creep spread.....etc...I know it's easier to write it , but fuck it, they are pro players they should know how to do this shit.....watch Rogue vs Bbyong.....that's how you should do it! use de lack of mobility of mech army...if you can spread that mech army all over the map you have more chances of winning!

Damn i'm so smart, in my little room , behind my keyboard!.....


overpowered doesnt mean unbeatable

i dont know if you are into hearthstone but there is a deck called patron warrior which is considered the best deck by every pro gamer for the last 4 months, it is obviously overpowered.

in tournaments it has a winrate of around 55-60% though. of course it can lose, a lot actually, but it is still overpowered

I'm not familiar with that game, but a win rate of 55-60% for that deck doesn't mean it's a bad design, ...quite the opposit.
ZYCSMDYF
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 20 2015 12:47 GMT
#745
On August 20 2015 21:45 brickrd wrote:
at this point you can toss out the balance debates and just admit that a lot of players of all races think mech is horrific to watch, which is honestly more important than balance

i can appreciate a well played bio win over z, it's usually exciting and intense. watching scvs repair turrets and PFs isn't entertaining

it's pretty analogous to SH turtle


that doesn't happen if the Z is patient and doesn't overextend off creep.
Zest fanboy.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-20 12:48:29
August 20 2015 12:48 GMT
#746
That was as porn music an intro as Starcraft can get.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
August 20 2015 12:48 GMT
#747
On August 20 2015 21:45 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:41 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:36 Rollora wrote:
See how you beat mech? Attack, do damage, left and right.
Still I miss a good unit mix

Stop the mech before it's too late like stop BL infestor before it happened? It's just one match up instead of 2 (late game ZvZ's were hilarious then btw) but it's reaching same levels of unfairness. It's ok/ unavoidable for late game armies to be unequal in strength but not too much pls

Unfortunately in SC2 its always "stop the player before he got his Composition".
Lategame TvP -> Pull tha boyz
TvZ -> if not possible to do drone damage, Zerg outmacros u -> stop that before he rolls over you.
TvZ-> mass muta ball in midgame -> if it ever comes to the point the zerg has 20+ Mutas and the rest of the armies are even, you end up running around chasing Mutas, that are faster then your stimmed marines... no chance.
ZvP -> try to kill before the toss has Storm+Colossi+ forcefields
...
I dunno for Toss vs X, I don't play it.

ZvP lategame is fine and you're exaggerating a lot about tvz.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
August 20 2015 12:48 GMT
#748
let the mech drums beat
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 20 2015 12:48 GMT
#749
On August 20 2015 21:47 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:45 brickrd wrote:
at this point you can toss out the balance debates and just admit that a lot of players of all races think mech is horrific to watch, which is honestly more important than balance

i can appreciate a well played bio win over z, it's usually exciting and intense. watching scvs repair turrets and PFs isn't entertaining

it's pretty analogous to SH turtle


that doesn't happen if the Z is patient and doesn't overextend off creep.

lol
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-20 12:48:50
August 20 2015 12:48 GMT
#750
S2SL Quarterfinals

(Z)ByuL vs (T)INnoVation
2-1

Map: Echo

ByuL spawns in the top left
INnoVation spawns in the bottom right
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 20 2015 12:48 GMT
#751
now _this_ is a mech map
x0x0
Profile Joined August 2015
149 Posts
August 20 2015 12:49 GMT
#752
On August 20 2015 21:47 in_flvxx wrote:
honestly, it really feels like extreme late-game terran mech requires some near-inhumane effort from zerg to beat.

however, it also feels like innovation is the only terran capable of consistently getting there (flash vs curious series was fxxking mental tho). other terrans just don't seem to be able to either get to that stage in the game, or can't execute in that late-game consistently. i'm thinking innovation is just a really amazing player.

You sir , have put the dot on the i !!
ZYCSMDYF
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
August 20 2015 12:50 GMT
#753
On August 20 2015 21:45 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:41 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:36 Rollora wrote:
See how you beat mech? Attack, do damage, left and right.
Still I miss a good unit mix

Stop the mech before it's too late like stop BL infestor before it happened? It's just one match up instead of 2 (late game ZvZ's were hilarious then btw) but it's reaching same levels of unfairness. It's ok/ unavoidable for late game armies to be unequal in strength but not too much pls

Unfortunately in SC2 its always "stop the player before he got his Composition".
Lategame TvP -> Pull tha boyz
TvZ -> if not possible to do drone damage, Zerg outmacros u -> stop that before he rolls over you.
TvZ-> mass muta ball in midgame -> if it ever comes to the point the zerg has 20+ Mutas and the rest of the armies are even, you end up running around chasing Mutas, that are faster then your stimmed marines... no chance.
ZvP -> try to kill before the toss has Storm+Colossi+ forcefields
...
I dunno for Toss vs X, I don't play it.

It's not a black and white thing (most things aren't). BL infestor was removed for a reason.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 20 2015 12:50 GMT
#754
Poll: How many turrets will we see this game?

∞ (7)
 
88%

1-10 (1)
 
13%

11-15 (0)
 
0%

16-20 (0)
 
0%

21-25 (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: How many turrets will we see this game?

(Vote): 1-10
(Vote): 11-15
(Vote): 16-20
(Vote): 21-25
(Vote): ∞


imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 20 2015 12:50 GMT
#755
On August 20 2015 21:48 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:47 sAsImre wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:45 brickrd wrote:
at this point you can toss out the balance debates and just admit that a lot of players of all races think mech is horrific to watch, which is honestly more important than balance

i can appreciate a well played bio win over z, it's usually exciting and intense. watching scvs repair turrets and PFs isn't entertaining

it's pretty analogous to SH turtle


that doesn't happen if the Z is patient and doesn't overextend off creep.

lol


There is a reason that explains why bio-centric players such as Fanta are playing mech right now: bio is 10 times harder, you pay every mistake by losing the game and the top ZvTer are almost never losing to bio. Look at soO or curious game and which style they are winning and losing against
Zest fanboy.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 20 2015 12:50 GMT
#756
On August 20 2015 21:50 ThomasjServo wrote:
Poll: How many turrets will we see this game?

∞ (7)
 
88%

1-10 (1)
 
13%

11-15 (0)
 
0%

16-20 (0)
 
0%

21-25 (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: How many turrets will we see this game?

(Vote): 1-10
(Vote): 11-15
(Vote): 16-20
(Vote): 21-25
(Vote): ∞



This reminds me of the time I got a score of infinity in mini-golf. I am not good at that game.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
August 20 2015 12:50 GMT
#757
scaredy cat play
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 20 2015 12:51 GMT
#758
On August 20 2015 21:50 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:50 ThomasjServo wrote:
Poll: How many turrets will we see this game?

∞ (7)
 
88%

1-10 (1)
 
13%

11-15 (0)
 
0%

16-20 (0)
 
0%

21-25 (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: How many turrets will we see this game?

(Vote): 1-10
(Vote): 11-15
(Vote): 16-20
(Vote): 21-25
(Vote): ∞



This reminds me of the time I got a score of infinity in mini-golf. I am not good at that game.

Holy....how on earth Templar :3
I love mini golf :D
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 20 2015 12:51 GMT
#759
tilt confirmed
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
August 20 2015 12:51 GMT
#760
On August 20 2015 21:50 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:50 ThomasjServo wrote:
Poll: How many turrets will we see this game?

∞ (7)
 
88%

1-10 (1)
 
13%

11-15 (0)
 
0%

16-20 (0)
 
0%

21-25 (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: How many turrets will we see this game?

(Vote): 1-10
(Vote): 11-15
(Vote): 16-20
(Vote): 21-25
(Vote): ∞



This reminds me of the time I got a score of infinity in mini-golf. I am not good at that game.

Hahaha. Mini golf is fun :D
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