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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 20 2015 12:34 GMT
#681
Clutchiest turret of Inno's life man
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
August 20 2015 12:35 GMT
#682
On August 20 2015 21:23 YyapSsap wrote:
Im not sure why the pro z dont do this but use drops. Spread them thin. Use the cracklings to hurt the infrastructure especially when T dont build hellbats late game. Use nydus and swarmhosts to hit them at multiple spots. Have to spread them thin and take over the map then trade trade trade!

What does it say about that me that everytime i see a comment like this I laugh out loud?
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 20 2015 12:35 GMT
#683
sexy micro by Byul to find damage in the third
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 20 2015 12:35 GMT
#684
Inno TOO EASY FOR BYUL omg
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 20 2015 12:35 GMT
#685
when in doubt, roaches
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 20 2015 12:35 GMT
#686
R is the answer!
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13321 Posts
August 20 2015 12:36 GMT
#687
On August 20 2015 21:35 Noonius wrote:
when in doubt, roaches

Roaches are the answer to everything
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 20 2015 12:36 GMT
#688
Who would have thought stopping the turtle could work? WHAT A GENIUS.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
August 20 2015 12:36 GMT
#689
On August 20 2015 21:31 x0x0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:25 Tsubbi wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:24 x0x0 wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:22 Pandemona wrote:
If you lose a professional game of sc2 having 8k 1k in the bank for 20 minutes there is something wrong.....

with your engagements and positioning...


if one player has no need to ever move across the map and can sit on all his static defense there is no way to engage for his opponent, one race having a way superior end game army is just terrible design.

Yea but whats stoping the zerg to have smart engagements and harras all over the map....he's got the bank,he's got the larva, he's got the creep spread.....etc...I know it's easier to write it , but fuck it, they are pro players they should know how to do this shit.....watch Rogue vs Bbyong.....that's how you should do it! use de lack of mobility of mech army...if you can spread that mech army all over the map you have more chances of winning!

Damn i'm so smart, in my little room , behind my keyboard!.....


overpowered doesnt mean unbeatable

i dont know if you are into hearthstone but there is a deck called patron warrior which is considered the best deck by every pro gamer for the last 4 months, it is obviously overpowered.

in tournaments it has a winrate of around 55-60% though. of course it can lose, a lot actually, but it is still overpowered
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
August 20 2015 12:36 GMT
#690
See how you beat mech? Attack, do damage, left and right.
Still I miss a good unit mix
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
August 20 2015 12:36 GMT
#691
ROACHESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 20 2015 12:36 GMT
#692
On August 20 2015 21:32 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:29 The_Templar wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:25 The_Templar wrote:
S2SL Quarterfinals

(Z)ByuL vs (T)INnoVation
1-1

Map: Expedition Lost

ByuL spawns in the bottom left
INnoVation spawns in the top right

2:00
Hatch/pool/gas for ByuL.
INnoVation opening CC first -> barracks/gas.

3:00
stuff happened

4:00
INnoVation getting a factory and a marine.
Zergling speed for ByuL.

5:00
Hellions being made.
Lair for ByuL.
INnoVation getting a viking and a marauder which is cancelled.

7:00 (Z)ByuL 67 vs (T)INnoVation 53
Spire for ByuL.
More factories for INnoVation make it stop
Armory being made.
Widow mines.

9:00 (Z)ByuL 76 vs (T)INnoVation 77
Tanks and +1 mech attack for INnoVation.
ByuL taking a fourth base at the gold.
Roach speed and 17 roaches for ByuL, as well as +1/1 missile.

10:00 (Z)ByuL 110 vs (T)INnoVation 94
INnoVation has two tanks already, with two more on the way.
ByuL tries the back door, but there are tanks there already.

12:00 (Z)ByuL 171 vs (T)INnoVation 140
ByuL's roach army charges into the natural but then backs off to engage the four tanks of INnovation in an open space.
Lots of SCVs dying, but the main roach army is cleaned up.
20+ more roaches on the way, and INnoVation has lost a lot.

13:00 (Z)ByuL 153 vs (T)INnoVation 97
ByuL tries burrowed roaches, but a turret finishes just in time and ByuL loses a little more than she should.
ByuL regroups and attacks INnoVation's third from the other side.
INnoVation loses a lot of tanks and SCVs.

15:00 (Z)ByuL 142 vs (T)INnoVation 68
ByuL taking the other gold.
ByuL breaks the rocks into INnoVation's base.
Also INnoVation is now on just two bases against five.

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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 20 2015 12:36 GMT
#693
On August 20 2015 21:36 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:35 Noonius wrote:
when in doubt, roaches

Roaches are the answer to everything


maybe if you're a zerg

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28491 Posts
August 20 2015 12:36 GMT
#694
On August 20 2015 21:34 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:30 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:27 ETisME wrote:
people who blame on engagement doesn't understand that the zerg doesn't have ways to engage into that and the turtling player army will only get better and thus secure base more easily.

Indeed.

thats a bold statement. He engaged over and over against the sieged up terran UP a ramp or small tunnel with 2 unit types.
He didnt make infestors for the clumbed up vikings, he didn't make other units then Queen+Ultra time (ok and Vipers).
He didnt try to tear the terran apart, what about nydus, drop etc...
There are several ways to engage this, just don't play like a robot.

I have seen a lot of late game mech vZ, Byul could've played better but that doesn't change the fact that Z is very unfavored against it
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
August 20 2015 12:37 GMT
#695
Honestly I've been saying it forever...you need to beat mech before it becomes ridiculous. THIS is the best way to beat it.
cmdspinner1
Profile Joined February 2014
140 Posts
August 20 2015 12:37 GMT
#696
On August 20 2015 21:36 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:34 Rollora wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:30 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:27 ETisME wrote:
people who blame on engagement doesn't understand that the zerg doesn't have ways to engage into that and the turtling player army will only get better and thus secure base more easily.

Indeed.

thats a bold statement. He engaged over and over against the sieged up terran UP a ramp or small tunnel with 2 unit types.
He didnt make infestors for the clumbed up vikings, he didn't make other units then Queen+Ultra time (ok and Vipers).
He didnt try to tear the terran apart, what about nydus, drop etc...
There are several ways to engage this, just don't play like a robot.

I have seen a lot of late game mech vZ, Byul could've played better but that doesn't change the fact that Z is very unfavored against it

Are there any statistics of ZvMech?
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 20 2015 12:37 GMT
#697
On August 20 2015 21:36 Rollora wrote:
See how you beat mech? Attack, do damage, left and right.
Still I miss a good unit mix

Yes, you can do that on a map where Mech player has to spread as much as he can to defend all of his bases, which isn't every map.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 20 2015 12:37 GMT
#698
On August 20 2015 21:36 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:31 x0x0 wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:25 Tsubbi wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:24 x0x0 wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:22 Pandemona wrote:
If you lose a professional game of sc2 having 8k 1k in the bank for 20 minutes there is something wrong.....

with your engagements and positioning...


if one player has no need to ever move across the map and can sit on all his static defense there is no way to engage for his opponent, one race having a way superior end game army is just terrible design.

Yea but whats stoping the zerg to have smart engagements and harras all over the map....he's got the bank,he's got the larva, he's got the creep spread.....etc...I know it's easier to write it , but fuck it, they are pro players they should know how to do this shit.....watch Rogue vs Bbyong.....that's how you should do it! use de lack of mobility of mech army...if you can spread that mech army all over the map you have more chances of winning!

Damn i'm so smart, in my little room , behind my keyboard!.....


overpowered doesnt mean unbeatable

i dont know if you are into hearthstone but there is a deck called patron warrior which is considered the best deck by every pro gamer for the last 4 months, it is obviously overpowered.

in tournaments it has a winrate of around 55-60% though. of course it can lose, a lot actually, but it is still overpowered


You described perfectly muta/ling/bane vs bio. Amazing.
Zest fanboy.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
August 20 2015 12:37 GMT
#699
On August 20 2015 21:31 x0x0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:25 Tsubbi wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:24 x0x0 wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:22 Pandemona wrote:
If you lose a professional game of sc2 having 8k 1k in the bank for 20 minutes there is something wrong.....

with your engagements and positioning...


if one player has no need to ever move across the map and can sit on all his static defense there is no way to engage for his opponent, one race having a way superior end game army is just terrible design.

Yea but whats stoping the zerg to have smart engagements and harras all over the map....he's got the bank,he's got the larva, he's got the creep spread.....etc...I know it's easier to write it , but fuck it, they are pro players they should know how to do this shit.....watch Rogue vs Bbyong.....that's how you should do it! use de lack of mobility of mech army...if you can spread that mech army all over the map you have more chances of winning!

Damn i'm so smart, in my little room , behind my keyboard!.....

Once maxed a mech army is both bigger and more supply efficent that a zerg army (mules imba :D) They have sensor maphacks and scan maphacks to ensure they are always in position and army that does not get rofl stomped by mech isn't really that fast on top of it all.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 20 2015 12:38 GMT
#700
Get overlord drop researched and do some dropping or nydus play ByuL jesus!
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