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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 20 2015 12:28 GMT
#661
On August 20 2015 21:27 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:27 Noonius wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:23 The_Templar wrote:
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs INnoVation Game 2?

β˜…- Do not see this game no matter what (21)
 
100%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs INnoVation Game 2?

(Vote): β˜…- Do not see this game no matter what




should have used the 5 star version with that 1 star caption for maximum over-rustle

You mean like β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…- Do not see this game no matter what?


indeed

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 20 2015 12:29 GMT
#662
On August 20 2015 21:27 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:25 Noonius wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:22 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:21 deacon.frost wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:20 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:20 deacon.frost wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:16 Noonius wrote:
that sexy mule hammer. I'm so gonna miss that come lotv

And the late game "sacrifice all the non gas SCVs!" style where you have 180 supply army and you can mine faster than the player with workers ><

you guys forgetting what's really important:

no manner mules

Manner scans are better, IMO.

manner supply depot build plus call down


fuck it, in lotv I'm gonna at least once try to build a ghost academy in my opponent's face, then build a nuke from that academy and then launch that sucker

sounds like something Maru would do. Always knew you were secretly a fan


you do know that you have crossed the line with that comment, right?
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 20 2015 12:29 GMT
#663
On August 20 2015 21:27 cmdspinner1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:25 Tsubbi wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:24 x0x0 wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:22 Pandemona wrote:
If you lose a professional game of sc2 having 8k 1k in the bank for 20 minutes there is something wrong.....

with your engagements and positioning...


if one player has no need to ever move across the map and can sit on all his static defense there is no way to engage for his opponent, one race having a way superior end game army is just terrible design.

Byul shouldnt have attacked all the time but build an extremely viper heavy army and spores and obduct gas heavy units all the time. Since he is mining way more than innovation, he will eventually win.

"He will eventually win" no, he won't if other player is efficient with his units to the extreme.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 20 2015 12:29 GMT
#664
On August 20 2015 21:25 The_Templar wrote:
S2SL Quarterfinals

(Z)ByuL vs (T)INnoVation
1-1

Map: Expedition Lost

ByuL spawns in the bottom left
INnoVation spawns in the top right

2:00
Hatch/pool/gas for ByuL.
INnoVation opening CC first -> barracks/gas.

3:00
stuff happened

4:00
INnoVation getting a factory and a marine.
Zergling speed for ByuL.

5:00
Hellions being made.
Lair for ByuL.
INnoVation getting a viking and a marauder which is cancelled.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
August 20 2015 12:29 GMT
#665
On August 20 2015 21:26 c0ldfusion wrote:
You guys are talking like this is Byul's first time facing mech or something.

He's seen this before and he just hasn't figured out the right solution. All the top zergs are struggling.

Didn't seem so yesterday vs Fantasy.
There are other units in this matchup then queens+Ultras or BLs...
I havent seen Fungal, Nydus, Drops (just a couple of roaches here and there...)
All these APM but zero multitasking and attacking up a ramp vs sieged up mech cannot be the answer.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 20 2015 12:29 GMT
#666
On August 20 2015 21:28 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:27 The_Templar wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:27 Noonius wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:23 The_Templar wrote:
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs INnoVation Game 2?

β˜…- Do not see this game no matter what (21)
 
100%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs INnoVation Game 2?

(Vote): β˜…- Do not see this game no matter what




should have used the 5 star version with that 1 star caption for maximum over-rustle

You mean like β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…- Do not see this game no matter what?


indeed


Hah! I'll keep that in mind.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
August 20 2015 12:30 GMT
#667
On August 20 2015 21:27 ETisME wrote:
people who blame on engagement doesn't understand that the zerg doesn't have ways to engage into that and the turtling player army will only get better and thus secure base more easily.

Indeed.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
August 20 2015 12:31 GMT
#668
On August 20 2015 21:25 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:24 x0x0 wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:22 Pandemona wrote:
If you lose a professional game of sc2 having 8k 1k in the bank for 20 minutes there is something wrong.....

with your engagements and positioning...


if one player has no need to ever move across the map and can sit on all his static defense there is no way to engage for his opponent, one race having a way superior end game army is just terrible design.

You are calling defensive toss broken?
Oh you are talking about mech... well, protoss get killed left and right as well, their defensive seemed unbeatable for a long time, so play it like its a toss.
x0x0
Profile Joined August 2015
149 Posts
August 20 2015 12:31 GMT
#669
On August 20 2015 21:25 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:24 x0x0 wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:22 Pandemona wrote:
If you lose a professional game of sc2 having 8k 1k in the bank for 20 minutes there is something wrong.....

with your engagements and positioning...


if one player has no need to ever move across the map and can sit on all his static defense there is no way to engage for his opponent, one race having a way superior end game army is just terrible design.

Yea but whats stoping the zerg to have smart engagements and harras all over the map....he's got the bank,he's got the larva, he's got the creep spread.....etc...I know it's easier to write it , but fuck it, they are pro players they should know how to do this shit.....watch Rogue vs Bbyong.....that's how you should do it! use de lack of mobility of mech army...if you can spread that mech army all over the map you have more chances of winning!

Damn i'm so smart, in my little room , behind my keyboard!.....
ZYCSMDYF
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 20 2015 12:31 GMT
#670
Who would have guessed that Innovation and Firecake are the same person just different races.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 20 2015 12:32 GMT
#671
On August 20 2015 21:31 RaFox17 wrote:
Who would have guessed that Innovation and Firecake are the same person just different races.

no wonder they are both so popular on TL
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 20 2015 12:32 GMT
#672
On August 20 2015 21:29 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:25 The_Templar wrote:
S2SL Quarterfinals

(Z)ByuL vs (T)INnoVation
1-1

Map: Expedition Lost

ByuL spawns in the bottom left
INnoVation spawns in the top right

2:00
Hatch/pool/gas for ByuL.
INnoVation opening CC first -> barracks/gas.

3:00
stuff happened

4:00
INnoVation getting a factory and a marine.
Zergling speed for ByuL.

5:00
Hellions being made.
Lair for ByuL.
INnoVation getting a viking and a marauder which is cancelled.

7:00 (Z)ByuL 67 vs (T)INnoVation 53
Spire for ByuL.
More factories for INnoVation make it stop
Armory being made.
Widow mines.

9:00 (Z)ByuL 76 vs (T)INnoVation 77
Tanks and +1 mech attack for INnoVation.
ByuL taking a fourth base at the gold.
Roach speed and 17 roaches for ByuL, as well as +1/1 missile.

10:00 (Z)ByuL 110 vs (T)INnoVation 94
INnoVation has two tanks already, with two more on the way.
ByuL tries the back door, but there are tanks there already.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 20 2015 12:33 GMT
#673
Byul wanted to end this in the mid game. Looks like that's not happening.

He's in a ton of trouble.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 20 2015 12:33 GMT
#674
On August 20 2015 21:32 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:31 RaFox17 wrote:
Who would have guessed that Innovation and Firecake are the same person just different races.

no wonder they are both so popular on TL

And they act the same too!
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 20 2015 12:33 GMT
#675
On August 20 2015 21:33 c0ldfusion wrote:
Byul wanted to end this in the mid game. Looks like that's not happening.

He's in a ton of trouble.

Good. I want this to end.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 20 2015 12:33 GMT
#676
Wow look ByuL does have a brain...next map please
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 20 2015 12:33 GMT
#677
The glorious roachmasterrace!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 20 2015 12:34 GMT
#678
This looks like Roach max ZvP
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-20 12:35:19
August 20 2015 12:34 GMT
#679
On August 20 2015 21:30 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:27 ETisME wrote:
people who blame on engagement doesn't understand that the zerg doesn't have ways to engage into that and the turtling player army will only get better and thus secure base more easily.

Indeed.

thats a bold statement. He engaged over and over against the sieged up terran UP a ramp or small tunnel with 2 unit types.
He didnt make infestors for the clumbed up vikings, he didn't make other units then Queen+Ultra time (ok and Vipers).
He didnt try to tear the terran apart, what about nydus, drop etc...
There are several ways to engage this, just don't play like a robot.

Also he could mix some BL into the army, to help on the ground. He was on 170 supply some fights, there was room for it and money to burn
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 20 2015 12:34 GMT
#680
On August 20 2015 21:29 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:28 Noonius wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:27 The_Templar wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:27 Noonius wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:23 The_Templar wrote:
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs INnoVation Game 2?

β˜…- Do not see this game no matter what (21)
 
100%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs INnoVation Game 2?

(Vote): β˜…- Do not see this game no matter what




should have used the 5 star version with that 1 star caption for maximum over-rustle

You mean like β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…- Do not see this game no matter what?


indeed


Hah! I'll keep that in mind.


it's a subtle mind fuck. People will see 5 stars and vote automatically, only reading the caption after.
Like I have many times fallen to the order of poll options. Polls not going from the traditional 1 to 5 stars but from 5 to 1 star. Then trying to quickly vote for 4 star but actually voting for 2 star.
I HATE CHANGE!!!
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