• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:02
CET 14:02
KST 22:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns6[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach
Tourneys
WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship uThermal 2v2 Circuit
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion I would like to say something about StarCraft StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Data analysis on 70 million replays
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread The Big Programming Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
How do archons sleep?
8882
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
GOAT of Goats list
BisuDagger
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1079 users

[S2SL] Ro8 Day 1 - Season 3 2015 - Page 34

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 68 Next
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 20 2015 12:28 GMT
#661
On August 20 2015 21:27 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:27 Noonius wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:23 The_Templar wrote:
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs INnoVation Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (21)
 
100%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs INnoVation Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what




should have used the 5 star version with that 1 star caption for maximum over-rustle

You mean like ★★★★★- Do not see this game no matter what?


indeed

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 20 2015 12:29 GMT
#662
On August 20 2015 21:27 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:25 Noonius wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:22 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:21 deacon.frost wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:20 Penev wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:20 deacon.frost wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:16 Noonius wrote:
that sexy mule hammer. I'm so gonna miss that come lotv

And the late game "sacrifice all the non gas SCVs!" style where you have 180 supply army and you can mine faster than the player with workers ><

you guys forgetting what's really important:

no manner mules

Manner scans are better, IMO.

manner supply depot build plus call down


fuck it, in lotv I'm gonna at least once try to build a ghost academy in my opponent's face, then build a nuke from that academy and then launch that sucker

sounds like something Maru would do. Always knew you were secretly a fan


you do know that you have crossed the line with that comment, right?
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
August 20 2015 12:29 GMT
#663
On August 20 2015 21:27 cmdspinner1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:25 Tsubbi wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:24 x0x0 wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:22 Pandemona wrote:
If you lose a professional game of sc2 having 8k 1k in the bank for 20 minutes there is something wrong.....

with your engagements and positioning...


if one player has no need to ever move across the map and can sit on all his static defense there is no way to engage for his opponent, one race having a way superior end game army is just terrible design.

Byul shouldnt have attacked all the time but build an extremely viper heavy army and spores and obduct gas heavy units all the time. Since he is mining way more than innovation, he will eventually win.

"He will eventually win" no, he won't if other player is efficient with his units to the extreme.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 20 2015 12:29 GMT
#664
On August 20 2015 21:25 The_Templar wrote:
S2SL Quarterfinals

(Z)ByuL vs (T)INnoVation
1-1

Map: Expedition Lost

ByuL spawns in the bottom left
INnoVation spawns in the top right

2:00
Hatch/pool/gas for ByuL.
INnoVation opening CC first -> barracks/gas.

3:00
stuff happened

4:00
INnoVation getting a factory and a marine.
Zergling speed for ByuL.

5:00
Hellions being made.
Lair for ByuL.
INnoVation getting a viking and a marauder which is cancelled.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
August 20 2015 12:29 GMT
#665
On August 20 2015 21:26 c0ldfusion wrote:
You guys are talking like this is Byul's first time facing mech or something.

He's seen this before and he just hasn't figured out the right solution. All the top zergs are struggling.

Didn't seem so yesterday vs Fantasy.
There are other units in this matchup then queens+Ultras or BLs...
I havent seen Fungal, Nydus, Drops (just a couple of roaches here and there...)
All these APM but zero multitasking and attacking up a ramp vs sieged up mech cannot be the answer.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 20 2015 12:29 GMT
#666
On August 20 2015 21:28 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:27 The_Templar wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:27 Noonius wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:23 The_Templar wrote:
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs INnoVation Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (21)
 
100%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs INnoVation Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what




should have used the 5 star version with that 1 star caption for maximum over-rustle

You mean like ★★★★★- Do not see this game no matter what?


indeed


Hah! I'll keep that in mind.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
August 20 2015 12:30 GMT
#667
On August 20 2015 21:27 ETisME wrote:
people who blame on engagement doesn't understand that the zerg doesn't have ways to engage into that and the turtling player army will only get better and thus secure base more easily.

Indeed.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
August 20 2015 12:31 GMT
#668
On August 20 2015 21:25 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:24 x0x0 wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:22 Pandemona wrote:
If you lose a professional game of sc2 having 8k 1k in the bank for 20 minutes there is something wrong.....

with your engagements and positioning...


if one player has no need to ever move across the map and can sit on all his static defense there is no way to engage for his opponent, one race having a way superior end game army is just terrible design.

You are calling defensive toss broken?
Oh you are talking about mech... well, protoss get killed left and right as well, their defensive seemed unbeatable for a long time, so play it like its a toss.
x0x0
Profile Joined August 2015
149 Posts
August 20 2015 12:31 GMT
#669
On August 20 2015 21:25 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:24 x0x0 wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:22 Pandemona wrote:
If you lose a professional game of sc2 having 8k 1k in the bank for 20 minutes there is something wrong.....

with your engagements and positioning...


if one player has no need to ever move across the map and can sit on all his static defense there is no way to engage for his opponent, one race having a way superior end game army is just terrible design.

Yea but whats stoping the zerg to have smart engagements and harras all over the map....he's got the bank,he's got the larva, he's got the creep spread.....etc...I know it's easier to write it , but fuck it, they are pro players they should know how to do this shit.....watch Rogue vs Bbyong.....that's how you should do it! use de lack of mobility of mech army...if you can spread that mech army all over the map you have more chances of winning!

Damn i'm so smart, in my little room , behind my keyboard!.....
ZYCSMDYF
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 20 2015 12:31 GMT
#670
Who would have guessed that Innovation and Firecake are the same person just different races.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 20 2015 12:32 GMT
#671
On August 20 2015 21:31 RaFox17 wrote:
Who would have guessed that Innovation and Firecake are the same person just different races.

no wonder they are both so popular on TL
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 20 2015 12:32 GMT
#672
On August 20 2015 21:29 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:25 The_Templar wrote:
S2SL Quarterfinals

(Z)ByuL vs (T)INnoVation
1-1

Map: Expedition Lost

ByuL spawns in the bottom left
INnoVation spawns in the top right

2:00
Hatch/pool/gas for ByuL.
INnoVation opening CC first -> barracks/gas.

3:00
stuff happened

4:00
INnoVation getting a factory and a marine.
Zergling speed for ByuL.

5:00
Hellions being made.
Lair for ByuL.
INnoVation getting a viking and a marauder which is cancelled.

7:00 (Z)ByuL 67 vs (T)INnoVation 53
Spire for ByuL.
More factories for INnoVation make it stop
Armory being made.
Widow mines.

9:00 (Z)ByuL 76 vs (T)INnoVation 77
Tanks and +1 mech attack for INnoVation.
ByuL taking a fourth base at the gold.
Roach speed and 17 roaches for ByuL, as well as +1/1 missile.

10:00 (Z)ByuL 110 vs (T)INnoVation 94
INnoVation has two tanks already, with two more on the way.
ByuL tries the back door, but there are tanks there already.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 20 2015 12:33 GMT
#673
Byul wanted to end this in the mid game. Looks like that's not happening.

He's in a ton of trouble.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 20 2015 12:33 GMT
#674
On August 20 2015 21:32 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:31 RaFox17 wrote:
Who would have guessed that Innovation and Firecake are the same person just different races.

no wonder they are both so popular on TL

And they act the same too!
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 20 2015 12:33 GMT
#675
On August 20 2015 21:33 c0ldfusion wrote:
Byul wanted to end this in the mid game. Looks like that's not happening.

He's in a ton of trouble.

Good. I want this to end.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 20 2015 12:33 GMT
#676
Wow look ByuL does have a brain...next map please
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 20 2015 12:33 GMT
#677
The glorious roachmasterrace!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 20 2015 12:34 GMT
#678
This looks like Roach max ZvP
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-20 12:35:19
August 20 2015 12:34 GMT
#679
On August 20 2015 21:30 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:27 ETisME wrote:
people who blame on engagement doesn't understand that the zerg doesn't have ways to engage into that and the turtling player army will only get better and thus secure base more easily.

Indeed.

thats a bold statement. He engaged over and over against the sieged up terran UP a ramp or small tunnel with 2 unit types.
He didnt make infestors for the clumbed up vikings, he didn't make other units then Queen+Ultra time (ok and Vipers).
He didnt try to tear the terran apart, what about nydus, drop etc...
There are several ways to engage this, just don't play like a robot.

Also he could mix some BL into the army, to help on the ground. He was on 170 supply some fights, there was room for it and money to burn
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 20 2015 12:34 GMT
#680
On August 20 2015 21:29 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 21:28 Noonius wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:27 The_Templar wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:27 Noonius wrote:
On August 20 2015 21:23 The_Templar wrote:
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs INnoVation Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (21)
 
100%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs INnoVation Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what




should have used the 5 star version with that 1 star caption for maximum over-rustle

You mean like ★★★★★- Do not see this game no matter what?


indeed


Hah! I'll keep that in mind.


it's a subtle mind fuck. People will see 5 stars and vote automatically, only reading the caption after.
Like I have many times fallen to the order of poll options. Polls not going from the traditional 1 to 5 stars but from 5 to 1 star. Then trying to quickly vote for 4 star but actually voting for 2 star.
I HATE CHANGE!!!
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 68 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 59m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 267
Lowko220
RotterdaM 156
SC2Nice 46
MindelVK 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 41482
Rain 4115
Sea 2280
Shuttle 1204
GuemChi 1066
Stork 628
ZerO 513
Soma 498
firebathero 490
actioN 481
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 477
Light 429
Snow 402
FanTaSy 351
ggaemo 242
Mini 206
Last 202
hero 197
Hyuk 183
Hyun 175
ToSsGirL 157
Leta 135
Aegong 105
Sharp 92
Pusan 86
Barracks 57
sorry 53
910 48
JYJ 43
Sea.KH 41
ajuk12(nOOB) 41
Movie 31
Nal_rA 28
soO 21
NotJumperer 17
HiyA 15
Noble 15
zelot 12
Terrorterran 11
Mong 9
Sacsri 8
scan(afreeca) 7
Icarus 5
Dota 2
XaKoH 828
XcaliburYe589
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2334
zeus1354
shoxiejesuss784
x6flipin772
allub200
Other Games
singsing2021
Gorgc1885
B2W.Neo1765
Pyrionflax650
Fuzer 302
JimRising 300
Sick201
ZerO(Twitch)10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick28571
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 47
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos4963
Upcoming Events
OSC
59m
Classic vs Krystianer
Solar vs TBD
ShoWTimE vs TBD
MaxPax vs TBD
MaNa vs MilkiCow
GgMaChine vs Mixu
SOOP
1d 14h
SHIN vs GuMiho
Cure vs Creator
The PondCast
1d 20h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
IPSL
3 days
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-06
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
OSC Championship Season 13
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.