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Atrocious attack, and now HyuN loses this game.
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Germany4588 Posts
The good old double anti-timing. Not waiting for the upgrade and not waiting for the 13 roaches he just build. Match fixing?
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On August 13 2015 22:33 BlackCompany wrote:
I like how almost noone here is actually admitting the other person might have a point or that every race has had its OPness/faults and instead this is just a big "NO YOU. MY RACE IS COOL WHILE YOURS IS EASY, OP AND DUMB" circle.
One certain person insisting that "terran exciting, protoss boring" certainly coloured the discussion a bit. Us who think the matches are great and sc2 is in a fabulous state drown in the sea of caps lock, as non-extreme opinions always do.
On August 13 2015 22:33 BlackCompany wrote:
Really curious what Rogue could bring vs Classic
I would love him to bust out flying locust and snipe some nexus :D
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Yay Rogue ! Half of my Liquibet will be right at least 
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You might say Hyun got Roccat'd
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Hyun's chance for WCS took a serious hit. And sOs will go up.
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I'm trying to make the liquibet comeback of the century, so Classic needs to win. Already got TY.
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Why did HyuN attack? Rogue had defender's advantage and a better concave...
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On August 13 2015 22:38 Durnuu wrote:Yay Rogue ! Half of my Liquibet will be right at least
Hehe, yeah I had classic and rogue so at least one of them will win
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On August 13 2015 22:39 The_Templar wrote:
I'm trying to make the liquibet comeback of the century, so Classic needs to win. Already got TY.
Yeah good luck with that.
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Well Wolf, you can't say you've never seen Rogue come back from such a situation again anymore. Stop the Rogue bashing.
I LBed TY and Rogue, please make it happen!
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On August 13 2015 22:38 neptunusfisk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:33 BlackCompany wrote:
I like how almost noone here is actually admitting the other person might have a point or that every race has had its OPness/faults and instead this is just a big "NO YOU. MY RACE IS COOL WHILE YOURS IS EASY, OP AND DUMB" circle.
One certain person insisting that "terran exciting, protoss boring" certainly coloured the discussion a bit. Us who think the matches are great and sc2 is in a fabulous state drown in the sea of caps lock, as non-extreme opinions always do. Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:33 BlackCompany wrote:
Really curious what Rogue could bring vs Classic I would love him to bust out flying locust and snipe some nexus :D
I'd love to see SH haras like he did vs herO. That would be pretty cool. Altough my liquibets demand that Classic wins 
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On August 13 2015 22:40 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:38 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 13 2015 22:33 BlackCompany wrote:
I like how almost noone here is actually admitting the other person might have a point or that every race has had its OPness/faults and instead this is just a big "NO YOU. MY RACE IS COOL WHILE YOURS IS EASY, OP AND DUMB" circle.
One certain person insisting that "terran exciting, protoss boring" certainly coloured the discussion a bit. Us who think the matches are great and sc2 is in a fabulous state drown in the sea of caps lock, as non-extreme opinions always do. On August 13 2015 22:33 BlackCompany wrote:
Really curious what Rogue could bring vs Classic I would love him to bust out flying locust and snipe some nexus :D I'd love to see SH haras like he did vs herO. That would be pretty cool. Altough my liquibets demand that Classic wins
So he does the SH harass and Classic plays beautifully to win. I'm fine with that
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On August 13 2015 22:39 The_Templar wrote:
I'm trying to make the liquibet comeback of the century, so Classic needs to win. Already got TY.
You're 479. The chances of that happening is about the same as Hack winning Code S :p
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On August 13 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:25 The_Templar wrote:On August 13 2015 22:25 Heartland wrote:On August 13 2015 22:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 13 2015 22:14 Rollora wrote:On August 13 2015 22:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 13 2015 22:03 Rollora wrote:On August 13 2015 21:55 MiniFotToss wrote:On August 13 2015 21:49 Nezgar wrote:On August 13 2015 21:45 Wrathsc2 wrote:
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probably because the way terran wins compared to protoss. When a terran wins its through exciting drops and out multitask. When toss wins its because of a big engagnement where they landed storms. And how the fuck are you supposed to do "exciting drops and multitask" when you don't have those tools as Protoss? And your army is weaker in small chunks compared to stimmed bio with medivac support? Defending that while getting to a high tech and building the right composition while keeping your bases alive and picking the right fight is how Protoss wins. Both require different sets of skills. But Terran fans don't understand that last bit. Terran drops = god Protoss doesn't drop = protossed It's an incredibly one-sided narrative and whenever a Protoss fan tries to say anything about it there are 10 Terrans screaming and hacking down on him. Terran fans are ignorant that's why, really shouldn't bother with them, they are always the most pitiful race "WITH THE MOST MICRO" that has no good tech and always complains "they are so ignorant, lets ignore them" you just held a mirror in front of yourself. Terran is the most mechanical race(with all the multi-harass, macro while micro), that is why it SEEMS that terran has to give more for the win. Protoss does a lot "hidden" since its a lot of decisions and composition - we don't see that, so it SEEMS Protoss is easy, just warp in the right units and move over the opponent. Zerg is a lot of perfect scouting, matching the composition and macroing like hell, Very much simplified and not 100% accurate I know, basically because of course every race is also about micro and macro and composition. However, because you SEE what the terran does all the times, it seems Terran has it harder to the neutral viewers (and all Terrans ofc) It doesn't matter if it is just as hard, but it matters if it is exciting to watch. This isn't about balance, it's about unit interactions and viable playstyles for each race. well I think it to be more exciting to watch if a player has to mechanically work harder for the win (multiprompt attacks, harass, micro, multitask...) and not sits at home and thinks about his unit comp, while defending. So maybe "excitement" while watching is different to each other, to me, constant harassement and trading and getting ahead by many small skirmirshes is what I prefer watching, not getting ahead all game and losing in 2 secs then. So for me, it would be fine if every race plays like Terran :D but that is only one mans opinion. Well I think Zerg is fine as well, but i never got "warm" with toss. Lazers and vanishing units don't do the same to me as BLOOD from Zerglings or Humans :D Nah i agree with you and i also think this is true for a lot of people. I was just saying that i don't think this is much about balance ("huh protoss so ez!!" this isn't true), it's more about the general race design ("huh protoss is boring to watch") Lots of action is what sc2 should be about. It would be even ok if one race turtles a little bit more, WHEN the actual engagements would be exciting to watch AND there still would be harass potential for both sides. So yeah, matches which include protoss are simply less interesting on average (i think this is true, would be interesting to look at the TL top games of the year and look how many terran/zerg/protoss games are in there) I think it's just a matter of identification. If you play a race you identify with it and you also tend to see the difficulties in it or the way builds are executed or whatever. If you don't play P then it will be harder for you to be engaged with P play. I picked Protoss (in 2010) because I like lasers. Lasers are sweet. Why'd you change? I just got bored of 4-gating every game.
lol I used to 4gate every game in WoL
then I discovered the FFE and 3gate robo
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Well, HyuN gave a good fight. I am happy to see Rogue get a chance vs. Classic though, although ZvP has kinda signaled his downfall in previous individual leagues.
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On August 13 2015 22:42 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 13 2015 22:25 The_Templar wrote:On August 13 2015 22:25 Heartland wrote:On August 13 2015 22:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 13 2015 22:14 Rollora wrote:On August 13 2015 22:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 13 2015 22:03 Rollora wrote:On August 13 2015 21:55 MiniFotToss wrote:On August 13 2015 21:49 Nezgar wrote:
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And how the fuck are you supposed to do "exciting drops and multitask" when you don't have those tools as Protoss? And your army is weaker in small chunks compared to stimmed bio with medivac support?
Defending that while getting to a high tech and building the right composition while keeping your bases alive and picking the right fight is how Protoss wins. Both require different sets of skills.
But Terran fans don't understand that last bit.
Terran drops = god
Protoss doesn't drop = protossed
It's an incredibly one-sided narrative and whenever a Protoss fan tries to say anything about it there are 10 Terrans screaming and hacking down on him.
Terran fans are ignorant that's why, really shouldn't bother with them, they are always the most pitiful race "WITH THE MOST MICRO" that has no good tech and always complains "they are so ignorant, lets ignore them" you just held a mirror in front of yourself. Terran is the most mechanical race(with all the multi-harass, macro while micro), that is why it SEEMS that terran has to give more for the win. Protoss does a lot "hidden" since its a lot of decisions and composition - we don't see that, so it SEEMS Protoss is easy, just warp in the right units and move over the opponent. Zerg is a lot of perfect scouting, matching the composition and macroing like hell, Very much simplified and not 100% accurate I know, basically because of course every race is also about micro and macro and composition. However, because you SEE what the terran does all the times, it seems Terran has it harder to the neutral viewers (and all Terrans ofc) It doesn't matter if it is just as hard, but it matters if it is exciting to watch. This isn't about balance, it's about unit interactions and viable playstyles for each race. well I think it to be more exciting to watch if a player has to mechanically work harder for the win (multiprompt attacks, harass, micro, multitask...) and not sits at home and thinks about his unit comp, while defending. So maybe "excitement" while watching is different to each other, to me, constant harassement and trading and getting ahead by many small skirmirshes is what I prefer watching, not getting ahead all game and losing in 2 secs then. So for me, it would be fine if every race plays like Terran :D but that is only one mans opinion. Well I think Zerg is fine as well, but i never got "warm" with toss. Lazers and vanishing units don't do the same to me as BLOOD from Zerglings or Humans :D Nah i agree with you and i also think this is true for a lot of people. I was just saying that i don't think this is much about balance ("huh protoss so ez!!" this isn't true), it's more about the general race design ("huh protoss is boring to watch") Lots of action is what sc2 should be about. It would be even ok if one race turtles a little bit more, WHEN the actual engagements would be exciting to watch AND there still would be harass potential for both sides. So yeah, matches which include protoss are simply less interesting on average (i think this is true, would be interesting to look at the TL top games of the year and look how many terran/zerg/protoss games are in there) I think it's just a matter of identification. If you play a race you identify with it and you also tend to see the difficulties in it or the way builds are executed or whatever. If you don't play P then it will be harder for you to be engaged with P play. I picked Protoss (in 2010) because I like lasers. Lasers are sweet. Why'd you change? I just got bored of 4-gating every game. lol I used to 4gate every game in WoL then I discovered the FFE and 3gate robo
My answer to "why the hell would you ever do that" was basically "Stalkers > No Stalkers."
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On August 13 2015 22:42 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:39 The_Templar wrote:
I'm trying to make the liquibet comeback of the century, so Classic needs to win. Already got TY. You're 479. The chances of that happening is about the same as Hack winning Code S :p
It's about points though and we haven't gotten any higher points bets yet. He's prolly just 10 points from the lead or so
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