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On August 13 2015 22:44 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:42 royalroadweed wrote:On August 13 2015 22:39 The_Templar wrote:
I'm trying to make the liquibet comeback of the century, so Classic needs to win. Already got TY. You're 479. The chances of that happening is about the same as Hack winning Code S :p It's about points though and we haven't gotten any higher points bets yet. He's prolly just 10 points from the lead or so
Touche. I remember I lost 2 points and ended up dropping 2 pages behind last season.
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YO who's that cutie beside Rain?
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
On August 13 2015 22:40 Seeker wrote:Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 80% ★★★- Good game (1) 20% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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Rain hitting on Classic's GF???? LOL
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On August 13 2015 22:38 neptunusfisk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:33 BlackCompany wrote:
I like how almost noone here is actually admitting the other person might have a point or that every race has had its OPness/faults and instead this is just a big "NO YOU. MY RACE IS COOL WHILE YOURS IS EASY, OP AND DUMB" circle.
One certain person insisting that "terran exciting, protoss boring" certainly coloured the discussion a bit. Us who think the matches are great and sc2 is in a fabulous state drown in the sea of caps lock, as non-extreme opinions always do. Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:33 BlackCompany wrote:
Really curious what Rogue could bring vs Classic I would love him to bust out flying locust and snipe some nexus :D
Yeah so extreme to say protoss might be the least interesting race gameplay wise when most people seem to think that way.
It's more extreme to deny it and say everything is fine tbh
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On August 13 2015 22:42 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:39 The_Templar wrote:
I'm trying to make the liquibet comeback of the century, so Classic needs to win. Already got TY. You're 479. The chances of that happening is about the same as Hack winning Code S :p
Yeah, but I'm 'only' 11 points behind first place and I was below 800th not too long ago 
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On August 13 2015 22:46 MiniFotToss wrote:
Rain hitting on Classic's GF???? LOL
Is Rain now SKT.SYG?
StealYoGirl?
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On August 13 2015 22:45 IntoTheheart wrote:
YO who's that cutie beside Rain?
이현경 Lee Hyun-Kyung, S2SL host. (and maybe Proleague as well ?)
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On August 13 2015 22:47 Durnuu wrote:이현경 Lee Hyun-Kyung, S2SL host. (and maybe Proleague as well ?)
I couldn't hear that conversation, but it was probably like:
Girl: "Win a GSL and I'll let you take me out to dinner."
Rain: "What if I win PL?"
Girl: "Did I stutter? ^__^"
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On August 13 2015 22:43 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:42 Larkin wrote:On August 13 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 13 2015 22:25 The_Templar wrote:On August 13 2015 22:25 Heartland wrote:On August 13 2015 22:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 13 2015 22:14 Rollora wrote:On August 13 2015 22:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 13 2015 22:03 Rollora wrote:On August 13 2015 21:55 MiniFotToss wrote:
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Terran fans are ignorant that's why, really shouldn't bother with them, they are always the most pitiful race "WITH THE MOST MICRO" that has no good tech and always complains "they are so ignorant, lets ignore them" you just held a mirror in front of yourself. Terran is the most mechanical race(with all the multi-harass, macro while micro), that is why it SEEMS that terran has to give more for the win. Protoss does a lot "hidden" since its a lot of decisions and composition - we don't see that, so it SEEMS Protoss is easy, just warp in the right units and move over the opponent. Zerg is a lot of perfect scouting, matching the composition and macroing like hell, Very much simplified and not 100% accurate I know, basically because of course every race is also about micro and macro and composition. However, because you SEE what the terran does all the times, it seems Terran has it harder to the neutral viewers (and all Terrans ofc) It doesn't matter if it is just as hard, but it matters if it is exciting to watch. This isn't about balance, it's about unit interactions and viable playstyles for each race. well I think it to be more exciting to watch if a player has to mechanically work harder for the win (multiprompt attacks, harass, micro, multitask...) and not sits at home and thinks about his unit comp, while defending. So maybe "excitement" while watching is different to each other, to me, constant harassement and trading and getting ahead by many small skirmirshes is what I prefer watching, not getting ahead all game and losing in 2 secs then. So for me, it would be fine if every race plays like Terran :D but that is only one mans opinion. Well I think Zerg is fine as well, but i never got "warm" with toss. Lazers and vanishing units don't do the same to me as BLOOD from Zerglings or Humans :D Nah i agree with you and i also think this is true for a lot of people. I was just saying that i don't think this is much about balance ("huh protoss so ez!!" this isn't true), it's more about the general race design ("huh protoss is boring to watch") Lots of action is what sc2 should be about. It would be even ok if one race turtles a little bit more, WHEN the actual engagements would be exciting to watch AND there still would be harass potential for both sides. So yeah, matches which include protoss are simply less interesting on average (i think this is true, would be interesting to look at the TL top games of the year and look how many terran/zerg/protoss games are in there) I think it's just a matter of identification. If you play a race you identify with it and you also tend to see the difficulties in it or the way builds are executed or whatever. If you don't play P then it will be harder for you to be engaged with P play. I picked Protoss (in 2010) because I like lasers. Lasers are sweet. Why'd you change? I just got bored of 4-gating every game. lol I used to 4gate every game in WoL then I discovered the FFE and 3gate robo My answer to "why the hell would you ever do that" was basically "Stalkers > No Stalkers."
It being silver/gold league meant people didn't always have the best responses but neither could I necessarily kill them, so there were situations where a zerg would survive via loads of spines and the game would go to 15-20 minutes with both of us staying on one base
then I devised my genius second stage to the fourgate - the 8 gate
sometimes with voidrays
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On August 13 2015 22:47 Durnuu wrote:이현경 Lee Hyun-Kyung, S2SL host. (and maybe Proleague as well ?)
Classic'c GF??
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I really want Classic to beat the sexy boy here.
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On August 13 2015 22:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:38 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 13 2015 22:33 BlackCompany wrote:
I like how almost noone here is actually admitting the other person might have a point or that every race has had its OPness/faults and instead this is just a big "NO YOU. MY RACE IS COOL WHILE YOURS IS EASY, OP AND DUMB" circle.
One certain person insisting that "terran exciting, protoss boring" certainly coloured the discussion a bit. Us who think the matches are great and sc2 is in a fabulous state drown in the sea of caps lock, as non-extreme opinions always do. On August 13 2015 22:33 BlackCompany wrote:
Really curious what Rogue could bring vs Classic I would love him to bust out flying locust and snipe some nexus :D Yeah so extreme to say protoss might be the least interesting race gameplay wise when most people seem to think that way. It's more extreme to deny it and say everything is fine tbh
+ Show Spoiler +
You cant just say "protoss is boring because everyone thinks so" when you are the only one here who thinks so but I guess your trolling is running out of steam now so yes, I took the bait for your sake. Hugs and kisses.
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On August 13 2015 22:49 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:43 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 13 2015 22:42 Larkin wrote:On August 13 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 13 2015 22:25 The_Templar wrote:On August 13 2015 22:25 Heartland wrote:On August 13 2015 22:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 13 2015 22:14 Rollora wrote:On August 13 2015 22:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 13 2015 22:03 Rollora wrote:
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"they are so ignorant, lets ignore them"
you just held a mirror in front of yourself.
Terran is the most mechanical race(with all the multi-harass, macro while micro), that is why it SEEMS that terran has to give more for the win.
Protoss does a lot "hidden" since its a lot of decisions and composition - we don't see that, so it SEEMS Protoss is easy, just warp in the right units and move over the opponent.
Zerg is a lot of perfect scouting, matching the composition and macroing like hell,
Very much simplified and not 100% accurate I know, basically because of course every race is also about micro and macro and composition.
However, because you SEE what the terran does all the times, it seems Terran has it harder to the neutral viewers (and all Terrans ofc)
It doesn't matter if it is just as hard, but it matters if it is exciting to watch. This isn't about balance, it's about unit interactions and viable playstyles for each race. well I think it to be more exciting to watch if a player has to mechanically work harder for the win (multiprompt attacks, harass, micro, multitask...) and not sits at home and thinks about his unit comp, while defending. So maybe "excitement" while watching is different to each other, to me, constant harassement and trading and getting ahead by many small skirmirshes is what I prefer watching, not getting ahead all game and losing in 2 secs then. So for me, it would be fine if every race plays like Terran :D but that is only one mans opinion. Well I think Zerg is fine as well, but i never got "warm" with toss. Lazers and vanishing units don't do the same to me as BLOOD from Zerglings or Humans :D Nah i agree with you and i also think this is true for a lot of people. I was just saying that i don't think this is much about balance ("huh protoss so ez!!" this isn't true), it's more about the general race design ("huh protoss is boring to watch") Lots of action is what sc2 should be about. It would be even ok if one race turtles a little bit more, WHEN the actual engagements would be exciting to watch AND there still would be harass potential for both sides. So yeah, matches which include protoss are simply less interesting on average (i think this is true, would be interesting to look at the TL top games of the year and look how many terran/zerg/protoss games are in there) I think it's just a matter of identification. If you play a race you identify with it and you also tend to see the difficulties in it or the way builds are executed or whatever. If you don't play P then it will be harder for you to be engaged with P play. I picked Protoss (in 2010) because I like lasers. Lasers are sweet. Why'd you change? I just got bored of 4-gating every game. lol I used to 4gate every game in WoL then I discovered the FFE and 3gate robo My answer to "why the hell would you ever do that" was basically "Stalkers > No Stalkers." It being silver/gold league meant people didn't always have the best responses but neither could I necessarily kill them, so there were situations where a zerg would survive via loads of spines and the game would go to 15-20 minutes with both of us staying on one base then I devised my genius second stage to the fourgate - the 8 gate sometimes with voidrays
VRs were the soul, the spirit, the best that StarCraft could be.
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On August 13 2015 22:54 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:49 Larkin wrote:On August 13 2015 22:43 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 13 2015 22:42 Larkin wrote:On August 13 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 13 2015 22:25 The_Templar wrote:On August 13 2015 22:25 Heartland wrote:On August 13 2015 22:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 13 2015 22:14 Rollora wrote:On August 13 2015 22:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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It doesn't matter if it is just as hard, but it matters if it is exciting to watch.
This isn't about balance, it's about unit interactions and viable playstyles for each race. well I think it to be more exciting to watch if a player has to mechanically work harder for the win (multiprompt attacks, harass, micro, multitask...) and not sits at home and thinks about his unit comp, while defending. So maybe "excitement" while watching is different to each other, to me, constant harassement and trading and getting ahead by many small skirmirshes is what I prefer watching, not getting ahead all game and losing in 2 secs then. So for me, it would be fine if every race plays like Terran :D but that is only one mans opinion. Well I think Zerg is fine as well, but i never got "warm" with toss. Lazers and vanishing units don't do the same to me as BLOOD from Zerglings or Humans :D Nah i agree with you and i also think this is true for a lot of people. I was just saying that i don't think this is much about balance ("huh protoss so ez!!" this isn't true), it's more about the general race design ("huh protoss is boring to watch") Lots of action is what sc2 should be about. It would be even ok if one race turtles a little bit more, WHEN the actual engagements would be exciting to watch AND there still would be harass potential for both sides. So yeah, matches which include protoss are simply less interesting on average (i think this is true, would be interesting to look at the TL top games of the year and look how many terran/zerg/protoss games are in there) I think it's just a matter of identification. If you play a race you identify with it and you also tend to see the difficulties in it or the way builds are executed or whatever. If you don't play P then it will be harder for you to be engaged with P play. I picked Protoss (in 2010) because I like lasers. Lasers are sweet. Why'd you change? I just got bored of 4-gating every game. lol I used to 4gate every game in WoL then I discovered the FFE and 3gate robo My answer to "why the hell would you ever do that" was basically "Stalkers > No Stalkers." It being silver/gold league meant people didn't always have the best responses but neither could I necessarily kill them, so there were situations where a zerg would survive via loads of spines and the game would go to 15-20 minutes with both of us staying on one base then I devised my genius second stage to the fourgate - the 8 gate sometimes with voidrays VRs were the soul, the spirit, the best that StarCraft could be.
god I love reading your sig
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On August 13 2015 22:54 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:49 Larkin wrote:On August 13 2015 22:43 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 13 2015 22:42 Larkin wrote:On August 13 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 13 2015 22:25 The_Templar wrote:On August 13 2015 22:25 Heartland wrote:On August 13 2015 22:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 13 2015 22:14 Rollora wrote:On August 13 2015 22:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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It doesn't matter if it is just as hard, but it matters if it is exciting to watch.
This isn't about balance, it's about unit interactions and viable playstyles for each race. well I think it to be more exciting to watch if a player has to mechanically work harder for the win (multiprompt attacks, harass, micro, multitask...) and not sits at home and thinks about his unit comp, while defending. So maybe "excitement" while watching is different to each other, to me, constant harassement and trading and getting ahead by many small skirmirshes is what I prefer watching, not getting ahead all game and losing in 2 secs then. So for me, it would be fine if every race plays like Terran :D but that is only one mans opinion. Well I think Zerg is fine as well, but i never got "warm" with toss. Lazers and vanishing units don't do the same to me as BLOOD from Zerglings or Humans :D Nah i agree with you and i also think this is true for a lot of people. I was just saying that i don't think this is much about balance ("huh protoss so ez!!" this isn't true), it's more about the general race design ("huh protoss is boring to watch") Lots of action is what sc2 should be about. It would be even ok if one race turtles a little bit more, WHEN the actual engagements would be exciting to watch AND there still would be harass potential for both sides. So yeah, matches which include protoss are simply less interesting on average (i think this is true, would be interesting to look at the TL top games of the year and look how many terran/zerg/protoss games are in there) I think it's just a matter of identification. If you play a race you identify with it and you also tend to see the difficulties in it or the way builds are executed or whatever. If you don't play P then it will be harder for you to be engaged with P play. I picked Protoss (in 2010) because I like lasers. Lasers are sweet. Why'd you change? I just got bored of 4-gating every game. lol I used to 4gate every game in WoL then I discovered the FFE and 3gate robo My answer to "why the hell would you ever do that" was basically "Stalkers > No Stalkers." It being silver/gold league meant people didn't always have the best responses but neither could I necessarily kill them, so there were situations where a zerg would survive via loads of spines and the game would go to 15-20 minutes with both of us staying on one base then I devised my genius second stage to the fourgate - the 8 gate sometimes with voidrays VRs were the soul, the spirit, the best that StarCraft could be.
naniwa says void ray is his favourite unit. when void ray meta is viable again he will probably win GSL as the first foreigner and be the new protoss dragon along with sOs and the returning genius
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On August 13 2015 22:56 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:54 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 13 2015 22:49 Larkin wrote:On August 13 2015 22:43 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 13 2015 22:42 Larkin wrote:On August 13 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 13 2015 22:25 The_Templar wrote:On August 13 2015 22:25 Heartland wrote:On August 13 2015 22:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 13 2015 22:14 Rollora wrote:
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well I think it to be more exciting to watch if a player has to mechanically work harder for the win (multiprompt attacks, harass, micro, multitask...) and not sits at home and thinks about his unit comp, while defending. So maybe "excitement" while watching is different to each other, to me, constant harassement and trading and getting ahead by many small skirmirshes is what I prefer watching, not getting ahead all game and losing in 2 secs then.
So for me, it would be fine if every race plays like Terran :D but that is only one mans opinion.
Well I think Zerg is fine as well, but i never got "warm" with toss. Lazers and vanishing units don't do the same to me as BLOOD from Zerglings or Humans :D
Nah i agree with you and i also think this is true for a lot of people. I was just saying that i don't think this is much about balance ("huh protoss so ez!!" this isn't true), it's more about the general race design ("huh protoss is boring to watch") Lots of action is what sc2 should be about. It would be even ok if one race turtles a little bit more, WHEN the actual engagements would be exciting to watch AND there still would be harass potential for both sides. So yeah, matches which include protoss are simply less interesting on average (i think this is true, would be interesting to look at the TL top games of the year and look how many terran/zerg/protoss games are in there) I think it's just a matter of identification. If you play a race you identify with it and you also tend to see the difficulties in it or the way builds are executed or whatever. If you don't play P then it will be harder for you to be engaged with P play. I picked Protoss (in 2010) because I like lasers. Lasers are sweet. Why'd you change? I just got bored of 4-gating every game. lol I used to 4gate every game in WoL then I discovered the FFE and 3gate robo My answer to "why the hell would you ever do that" was basically "Stalkers > No Stalkers." It being silver/gold league meant people didn't always have the best responses but neither could I necessarily kill them, so there were situations where a zerg would survive via loads of spines and the game would go to 15-20 minutes with both of us staying on one base then I devised my genius second stage to the fourgate - the 8 gate sometimes with voidrays VRs were the soul, the spirit, the best that StarCraft could be. god I love reading your sig
I also really enjoy reading it.
Shame it'll go in 15 days though. :/
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On August 13 2015 22:56 neptunusfisk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:54 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 13 2015 22:49 Larkin wrote:On August 13 2015 22:43 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 13 2015 22:42 Larkin wrote:On August 13 2015 22:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 13 2015 22:25 The_Templar wrote:On August 13 2015 22:25 Heartland wrote:On August 13 2015 22:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 13 2015 22:14 Rollora wrote:
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well I think it to be more exciting to watch if a player has to mechanically work harder for the win (multiprompt attacks, harass, micro, multitask...) and not sits at home and thinks about his unit comp, while defending. So maybe "excitement" while watching is different to each other, to me, constant harassement and trading and getting ahead by many small skirmirshes is what I prefer watching, not getting ahead all game and losing in 2 secs then.
So for me, it would be fine if every race plays like Terran :D but that is only one mans opinion.
Well I think Zerg is fine as well, but i never got "warm" with toss. Lazers and vanishing units don't do the same to me as BLOOD from Zerglings or Humans :D
Nah i agree with you and i also think this is true for a lot of people. I was just saying that i don't think this is much about balance ("huh protoss so ez!!" this isn't true), it's more about the general race design ("huh protoss is boring to watch") Lots of action is what sc2 should be about. It would be even ok if one race turtles a little bit more, WHEN the actual engagements would be exciting to watch AND there still would be harass potential for both sides. So yeah, matches which include protoss are simply less interesting on average (i think this is true, would be interesting to look at the TL top games of the year and look how many terran/zerg/protoss games are in there) I think it's just a matter of identification. If you play a race you identify with it and you also tend to see the difficulties in it or the way builds are executed or whatever. If you don't play P then it will be harder for you to be engaged with P play. I picked Protoss (in 2010) because I like lasers. Lasers are sweet. Why'd you change? I just got bored of 4-gating every game. lol I used to 4gate every game in WoL then I discovered the FFE and 3gate robo My answer to "why the hell would you ever do that" was basically "Stalkers > No Stalkers." It being silver/gold league meant people didn't always have the best responses but neither could I necessarily kill them, so there were situations where a zerg would survive via loads of spines and the game would go to 15-20 minutes with both of us staying on one base then I devised my genius second stage to the fourgate - the 8 gate sometimes with voidrays VRs were the soul, the spirit, the best that StarCraft could be. naniwa says void ray is his favourite unit. when void ray meta is viable again he will probably win GSL as the first foreigner and be the new protoss dragon along with sOs and the returning genius
I thought that $O$ preferred having beautiful things called "Tempests."
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On August 13 2015 22:53 neptunusfisk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 13 2015 22:38 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 13 2015 22:33 BlackCompany wrote:
I like how almost noone here is actually admitting the other person might have a point or that every race has had its OPness/faults and instead this is just a big "NO YOU. MY RACE IS COOL WHILE YOURS IS EASY, OP AND DUMB" circle.
One certain person insisting that "terran exciting, protoss boring" certainly coloured the discussion a bit. Us who think the matches are great and sc2 is in a fabulous state drown in the sea of caps lock, as non-extreme opinions always do. On August 13 2015 22:33 BlackCompany wrote:
Really curious what Rogue could bring vs Classic I would love him to bust out flying locust and snipe some nexus :D Yeah so extreme to say protoss might be the least interesting race gameplay wise when most people seem to think that way. It's more extreme to deny it and say everything is fine tbh + Show Spoiler +You cant just say "protoss is boring because everyone thinks so" when you are the only one here who thinks so but I guess your trolling is running out of steam now so yes, I took the bait for your sake. Hugs and kisses.
Are you for real? Just cause most people aren't as stupid as i am and don't post this stuff here in the LR thread you conclude that i am the only one who thinks so while there are posts complaining about protoss pretty much everywhere all the time?
Yes, these people complain about protoss being too strong (bla bla oracles, bla bla lategame), but what these people don't understand is that this isn't about balance, this is about design and excitement (to watch and to play against)
There is tons of questionable stuff in other games as well, but people deal with it a lot better cause in the end it still creates interesting gameplay.
But yeah, this isn't the place to discuss something like this. (sc2 being in the best place is laughable though, the numbers are on the lowest point ever, i wonder why, i guess because the gameplay is so exciting!)
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On August 13 2015 22:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:53 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 13 2015 22:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:On August 13 2015 22:38 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 13 2015 22:33 BlackCompany wrote:
I like how almost noone here is actually admitting the other person might have a point or that every race has had its OPness/faults and instead this is just a big "NO YOU. MY RACE IS COOL WHILE YOURS IS EASY, OP AND DUMB" circle.
One certain person insisting that "terran exciting, protoss boring" certainly coloured the discussion a bit. Us who think the matches are great and sc2 is in a fabulous state drown in the sea of caps lock, as non-extreme opinions always do. On August 13 2015 22:33 BlackCompany wrote:
Really curious what Rogue could bring vs Classic I would love him to bust out flying locust and snipe some nexus :D Yeah so extreme to say protoss might be the least interesting race gameplay wise when most people seem to think that way. It's more extreme to deny it and say everything is fine tbh + Show Spoiler +You cant just say "protoss is boring because everyone thinks so" when you are the only one here who thinks so but I guess your trolling is running out of steam now so yes, I took the bait for your sake. Hugs and kisses. + Show Spoiler +Are you for real? Just cause most people aren't as stupid as i am and don't post this stuff here in the LR thread you conclude that i am the only one who thinks so while there are posts complaining about protoss pretty much everywhere all the time?
Yes, these people complain about protoss being too strong (bla bla oracles, bla bla lategame), but what these people don't understand is that this isn't about balance, this is about design and excitement (to watch and to play against)
There is tons of questionable stuff in other games as well, but people deal with it a lot better cause in the end it still creates interesting gameplay.
But yeah, this isn't the place to discuss something like this. (sc2 being in the best place is laughable though, the numbers are on the lowest point ever, i wonder why, i guess because the gameplay is so exciting!)
Whatever, go to twitch chat or something, I'm sure you can find friends who share your opinions there
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