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What is this game I don't even
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On May 09 2015 08:06 Deathstar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2015 08:04 Thrillz wrote:On May 09 2015 07:57 BisuDagger wrote:On May 09 2015 07:55 Thrillz wrote:On May 09 2015 07:49 TheAnarchy wrote:On May 09 2015 07:44 Musicus wrote:On May 09 2015 07:31 TheAnarchy wrote:On May 09 2015 07:28 TheDwf wrote:On May 09 2015 07:26 Elentos wrote:On May 09 2015 07:25 brickrd wrote:
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need explication of rules and procedures and statement about what happened from DH before silly pitchforking I said IF it's true. Because to be honest it's unacceptable for HyuN to exploit the situation by completely changing his unit movement counteracting mines he didn't know were there in the original fight. At any rate, needs investigation. Someone forward this to our expert. It's worse than knowing that Mines are there (which were in his sight anyway), it's knowing that he loses the fight if he engages, so he rolls back the game before the engagement that he had chosen Hyun won fair and straight. Fantasy didnt complaint. Is not like when JD lost to Flash. The game was very tied Disagree heavily, Hyun has no right to pause a game and recover it from the point that fits him. Fantasy has also no right to recover a game, so it doesn't matter if he agrees. In any case recovering is only to be used after a disconnect or computer failure, not after a lag. The HOTS recover game from replay feature will be used in case of a disconnect by technical failure. If for some reason it does not work, see following rule:
If either player disconnects from the game due to technical reasons and the game is heavily favoured to the extent that the game would definitely have been won by one player an administrator may rule the game in favour of said player. Should the game be too close to call, it will be replayed. Anyway after a pause an admin has to be involved. If a player must pause the game due to technical difficulties the player must if possible tell the opponent about this before pausing. After pausing the player must inform an administrator.
If a game is paused without a reasonable explanation such as a technical difficulty the game might result in a forfeit. That's the rule. Hyun has to call an admin, which he did not. He instead recovered the game from a point he chose himself and the abused his knowledge to retreat instead of attacking what was what he originally did. In no way is that "fair and straight" and Hyun should be punished and I lost a lot of respect for him. Sadly it's way too late now and everything happened without an admin. I don't think DH will do anything about this, so Fantasy is just fucked. Too bad he is too nice and Korean culture forbids him from saying anything against the older Hyun and he just went along with it. http://open.dreamhack.se/page/2015-starcraft-ruleset/ If the other player allows it then it should be respected. There was no admin so the problem is from the tournament Hyun and Fantasy did what they thought it was right. They acted conscientiously in good faith. You can't be serious? Why even have rules then? What if they agreed to a Best of a million? What if they agree to throw games or some other bullshit? I gotta agree with if Fantasy understands what happened and is not complaining then we should let this go. Remember what happened when shit came done to the players? Like in Stephano vs Xlord? Only difference is that Fantasy is a nice guy or doesn't want to come off as a whiner. Fantasy wanted the win but didn't want to come off as a whiner. This puts him in an unfair position and it should have never came down to the players. lol what? Why are you talking more and more out of your ass? At any point, from the pause, to the time of recover or restart, Fantasy could have injected himself to either disagree or call for an admin. Exercise some common sense.
Maybe individuals don't react the same way to conflicts/disagreements/injustice depending on their culture or personality? Exercice some common sense too. You're basically arguing that it's legit to abuse people if they're nice enough not to protest, LOL.
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That tempest pull was so sad. Tempest survived for another 20 seconds after the pull. Patience should just start shooting the broods with the tempests.
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On May 09 2015 08:06 Deathstar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2015 08:04 Thrillz wrote:On May 09 2015 07:57 BisuDagger wrote:On May 09 2015 07:55 Thrillz wrote:On May 09 2015 07:49 TheAnarchy wrote:On May 09 2015 07:44 Musicus wrote:On May 09 2015 07:31 TheAnarchy wrote:On May 09 2015 07:28 TheDwf wrote:On May 09 2015 07:26 Elentos wrote:On May 09 2015 07:25 brickrd wrote:
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need explication of rules and procedures and statement about what happened from DH before silly pitchforking I said IF it's true. Because to be honest it's unacceptable for HyuN to exploit the situation by completely changing his unit movement counteracting mines he didn't know were there in the original fight. At any rate, needs investigation. Someone forward this to our expert. It's worse than knowing that Mines are there (which were in his sight anyway), it's knowing that he loses the fight if he engages, so he rolls back the game before the engagement that he had chosen Hyun won fair and straight. Fantasy didnt complaint. Is not like when JD lost to Flash. The game was very tied Disagree heavily, Hyun has no right to pause a game and recover it from the point that fits him. Fantasy has also no right to recover a game, so it doesn't matter if he agrees. In any case recovering is only to be used after a disconnect or computer failure, not after a lag. The HOTS recover game from replay feature will be used in case of a disconnect by technical failure. If for some reason it does not work, see following rule:
If either player disconnects from the game due to technical reasons and the game is heavily favoured to the extent that the game would definitely have been won by one player an administrator may rule the game in favour of said player. Should the game be too close to call, it will be replayed. Anyway after a pause an admin has to be involved. If a player must pause the game due to technical difficulties the player must if possible tell the opponent about this before pausing. After pausing the player must inform an administrator.
If a game is paused without a reasonable explanation such as a technical difficulty the game might result in a forfeit. That's the rule. Hyun has to call an admin, which he did not. He instead recovered the game from a point he chose himself and the abused his knowledge to retreat instead of attacking what was what he originally did. In no way is that "fair and straight" and Hyun should be punished and I lost a lot of respect for him. Sadly it's way too late now and everything happened without an admin. I don't think DH will do anything about this, so Fantasy is just fucked. Too bad he is too nice and Korean culture forbids him from saying anything against the older Hyun and he just went along with it. http://open.dreamhack.se/page/2015-starcraft-ruleset/ If the other player allows it then it should be respected. There was no admin so the problem is from the tournament Hyun and Fantasy did what they thought it was right. They acted conscientiously in good faith. You can't be serious? Why even have rules then? What if they agreed to a Best of a million? What if they agree to throw games or some other bullshit? I gotta agree with if Fantasy understands what happened and is not complaining then we should let this go. Remember what happened when shit came done to the players? Like in Stephano vs Xlord? Only difference is that Fantasy is a nice guy or doesn't want to come off as a whiner. Fantasy wanted the win but didn't want to come off as a whiner. This puts him in an unfair position and it should have never came down to the players. lol what? Why are you talking more and more out of your ass? At any point, from the pause, to the time of recover or restart, Fantasy could have injected himself to either disagree or call for an admin. Exercise some common sense.
Sadly Korean culture comes in the way of common sense here, that's why nothing should have been decided by the players. Fantasy should not have to interfere, Hyun should just go by the rules and call an admin.
On May 09 2015 08:08 TheDwf wrote:
Maybe individuals don't react the same way to conflicts/disagreements/injustice depending on their culture or personality? Exercice some common sense too. You're basically arguing that it's legit to abuse people if they're nice enough not to protest, LOL.
Exactly.
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These games are equally exciting as swarmhost games - except that this time zerg has no chance of winning.
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I know his name is Patience, but this is ridiculous.
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On May 09 2015 08:11 fmod wrote:
These games are equally exciting as swarmhost games - except that this time zerg has no chance of winning.
honestly this is on protoss because patience could have killed sacsri about half the game ago. not surprising though because it's patience and the turtling is more EU style than korean
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Now they're just trying to make fun of us by prolonging this game forever.
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Annnnd Patience wins! Look at that bank lol
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On May 09 2015 08:06 Deathstar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2015 08:04 Thrillz wrote:On May 09 2015 07:57 BisuDagger wrote:On May 09 2015 07:55 Thrillz wrote:On May 09 2015 07:49 TheAnarchy wrote:On May 09 2015 07:44 Musicus wrote:On May 09 2015 07:31 TheAnarchy wrote:On May 09 2015 07:28 TheDwf wrote:On May 09 2015 07:26 Elentos wrote:On May 09 2015 07:25 brickrd wrote:
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need explication of rules and procedures and statement about what happened from DH before silly pitchforking I said IF it's true. Because to be honest it's unacceptable for HyuN to exploit the situation by completely changing his unit movement counteracting mines he didn't know were there in the original fight. At any rate, needs investigation. Someone forward this to our expert. It's worse than knowing that Mines are there (which were in his sight anyway), it's knowing that he loses the fight if he engages, so he rolls back the game before the engagement that he had chosen Hyun won fair and straight. Fantasy didnt complaint. Is not like when JD lost to Flash. The game was very tied Disagree heavily, Hyun has no right to pause a game and recover it from the point that fits him. Fantasy has also no right to recover a game, so it doesn't matter if he agrees. In any case recovering is only to be used after a disconnect or computer failure, not after a lag. The HOTS recover game from replay feature will be used in case of a disconnect by technical failure. If for some reason it does not work, see following rule:
If either player disconnects from the game due to technical reasons and the game is heavily favoured to the extent that the game would definitely have been won by one player an administrator may rule the game in favour of said player. Should the game be too close to call, it will be replayed. Anyway after a pause an admin has to be involved. If a player must pause the game due to technical difficulties the player must if possible tell the opponent about this before pausing. After pausing the player must inform an administrator.
If a game is paused without a reasonable explanation such as a technical difficulty the game might result in a forfeit. That's the rule. Hyun has to call an admin, which he did not. He instead recovered the game from a point he chose himself and the abused his knowledge to retreat instead of attacking what was what he originally did. In no way is that "fair and straight" and Hyun should be punished and I lost a lot of respect for him. Sadly it's way too late now and everything happened without an admin. I don't think DH will do anything about this, so Fantasy is just fucked. Too bad he is too nice and Korean culture forbids him from saying anything against the older Hyun and he just went along with it. http://open.dreamhack.se/page/2015-starcraft-ruleset/ If the other player allows it then it should be respected. There was no admin so the problem is from the tournament Hyun and Fantasy did what they thought it was right. They acted conscientiously in good faith. You can't be serious? Why even have rules then? What if they agreed to a Best of a million? What if they agree to throw games or some other bullshit? I gotta agree with if Fantasy understands what happened and is not complaining then we should let this go. Remember what happened when shit came done to the players? Like in Stephano vs Xlord? Only difference is that Fantasy is a nice guy or doesn't want to come off as a whiner. Fantasy wanted the win but didn't want to come off as a whiner. This puts him in an unfair position and it should have never came down to the players. lol what? Why are you talking more and more out of your ass? At any point, from the pause, to the time of recover or restart, Fantasy could have injected himself to either disagree or call for an admin. Exercise some common sense. Fantasy is a competitor. He's not in France to stick his thumb up his ass like the admins. He's playing to win
It's their cultural thing that Fantasy doesn't inject. Who's to say HyuN or some other random player wouldn't do the same thing as Fantasy did in that situation? Letting the players decided is stupid as some are simply timid and will give in. While at the same time so players might want to abuse as much as possible. I honestly don't know what you are talking about otherwise. Fantasy got robbed, just because he's to timid or something to complain doesn't mean it wasn't completely bullshit.
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rofl storm drops on long distance mining drones, now I've seen everything
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Well tomorrow everything will be on the main stage, so admins should be present  . Until then guys, good night.
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On May 09 2015 08:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Annnnd Patience wins! Look at that bank lol
he pretty much won with the two forcefield army grabs (first outside patience's base while defending and second as sacsri's unit were retreating to the spine wall at his base), everything since then has just being patience aviloing
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I can understand where Patience' nickname comes from
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On May 09 2015 08:15 Musicus wrote:Well tomorrow everything will be on the main stage, so admins should be present . Until then guys, good night.
Good night!
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God fungal does so little damage. Sucks one of Zerg's few sources of AOE damage is so bad
So, how much supply is Patience going to lose in the final fight. My money is on less than 20.
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On May 09 2015 08:15 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I can understand where Patience' nickname comes from
He once won a 1 hour (or even longer) game vs Stephano's SH play because it ended up in the slowest base trade imagineable and he killed the last spore with a warp prism full of zealots. This guy is legit vs turtling.
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