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On May 09 2015 07:58 DJHelium wrote:
Getting DH to inform players and then enforce their rules would be a good thing for the future though!
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On May 09 2015 07:57 BisuDagger wrote:
I gotta agree with if Fantasy understands what happened and is not complaining then we should let this go.
On May 09 2015 07:55 Thrillz wrote:
You can't be serious? Why even have rules then? What if they agreed to a Best of a million? What if they agree to throw games or some other bullshit?
On May 09 2015 07:49 TheAnarchy wrote:
If the other player allows it then it should be respected. There was no admin so the problem is from the tournament Hyun and Fantasy did what they thought it was right. They acted conscientiously in good faith.
On May 09 2015 07:44 Musicus wrote:
Disagree heavily, Hyun has no right to pause a game and recover it from the point that fits him. Fantasy has also no right to recover a game, so it doesn't matter if he agrees. In any case recovering is only to be used after a disconnect or computer failure, not after a lag.
Anyway after a pause an admin has to be involved.
That's the rule. Hyun has to call an admin, which he did not. He instead recovered the game from a point he chose himself and the abused his knowledge to retreat instead of attacking what was what he originally did.
In no way is that "fair and straight" and Hyun should be punished and I lost a lot of respect for him. Sadly it's way too late now and everything happened without an admin. I don't think DH will do anything about this, so Fantasy is just fucked. Too bad he is too nice and Korean culture forbids him from saying anything against the older Hyun and he just went along with it.
http://open.dreamhack.se/page/2015-starcraft-ruleset/
On May 09 2015 07:31 TheAnarchy wrote:
Hyun won fair and straight. Fantasy didnt complaint. Is not like when JD lost to Flash. The game was very tied
On May 09 2015 07:28 TheDwf wrote:
It's worse than knowing that Mines are there (which were in his sight anyway), it's knowing that he loses the fight if he engages, so he rolls back the game before the engagement that he had chosen
On May 09 2015 07:26 Elentos wrote:
I said IF it's true. Because to be honest it's unacceptable for HyuN to exploit the situation by completely changing his unit movement counteracting mines he didn't know were there in the original fight. At any rate, needs investigation. Someone forward this to our expert.
On May 09 2015 07:25 brickrd wrote:
need explication of rules and procedures and statement about what happened from DH before silly pitchforking
On May 09 2015 07:23 Elentos wrote:
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Dreamhack should disqualify HyuN for this tbh. IF it's true.
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Dreamhack should disqualify HyuN for this tbh. IF it's true.
need explication of rules and procedures and statement about what happened from DH before silly pitchforking
I said IF it's true. Because to be honest it's unacceptable for HyuN to exploit the situation by completely changing his unit movement counteracting mines he didn't know were there in the original fight. At any rate, needs investigation. Someone forward this to our expert.
It's worse than knowing that Mines are there (which were in his sight anyway), it's knowing that he loses the fight if he engages, so he rolls back the game before the engagement that he had chosen
Hyun won fair and straight. Fantasy didnt complaint. Is not like when JD lost to Flash. The game was very tied
Disagree heavily, Hyun has no right to pause a game and recover it from the point that fits him. Fantasy has also no right to recover a game, so it doesn't matter if he agrees. In any case recovering is only to be used after a disconnect or computer failure, not after a lag.
The HOTS recover game from replay feature will be used in case of a disconnect by technical failure. If for some reason it does not work, see following rule:
If either player disconnects from the game due to technical reasons and the game is heavily favoured to the extent that the game would definitely have been won by one player an administrator may rule the game in favour of said player. Should the game be too close to call, it will be replayed.
If either player disconnects from the game due to technical reasons and the game is heavily favoured to the extent that the game would definitely have been won by one player an administrator may rule the game in favour of said player. Should the game be too close to call, it will be replayed.
Anyway after a pause an admin has to be involved.
If a player must pause the game due to technical difficulties the player must if possible tell the opponent about this before pausing. After pausing the player must inform an administrator.
If a game is paused without a reasonable explanation such as a technical difficulty the game might result in a forfeit.
If a game is paused without a reasonable explanation such as a technical difficulty the game might result in a forfeit.
That's the rule. Hyun has to call an admin, which he did not. He instead recovered the game from a point he chose himself and the abused his knowledge to retreat instead of attacking what was what he originally did.
In no way is that "fair and straight" and Hyun should be punished and I lost a lot of respect for him. Sadly it's way too late now and everything happened without an admin. I don't think DH will do anything about this, so Fantasy is just fucked. Too bad he is too nice and Korean culture forbids him from saying anything against the older Hyun and he just went along with it.
http://open.dreamhack.se/page/2015-starcraft-ruleset/
If the other player allows it then it should be respected. There was no admin so the problem is from the tournament Hyun and Fantasy did what they thought it was right. They acted conscientiously in good faith.
You can't be serious? Why even have rules then? What if they agreed to a Best of a million? What if they agree to throw games or some other bullshit?
I gotta agree with if Fantasy understands what happened and is not complaining then we should let this go.
Getting DH to inform players and then enforce their rules would be a good thing for the future though!
Absolutely. Its one of those issues where a mistake was made, it can't be fixed, but it can be prevented in the future. I think thatis the best outcome we can get from this.
