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Hopefully Trap wins it all now, I always root for the dirty protoss over the boring standard ones like Zest.
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On March 15 2015 05:36 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:34 OtherWorld wrote:
And the Protoss hate is making me laugh so much. It's OK people, you can give one tournament to other races than Terran once in a while. Additionally, Trap rocks, and having at least one P in the finals was so predictable. Well, no Terran's gonna win GSL, and we all know that's the only one that matters <.<
Yeah, exactly, I mean, it's not like any other tournament has a bracket packed full of the best Koreans to play through... 
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On March 15 2015 05:36 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:34 OtherWorld wrote:
And the Protoss hate is making me laugh so much. It's OK people, you can give one tournament to other races than Terran once in a while. Additionally, Trap rocks, and having at least one P in the finals was so predictable. Well, no Terran's gonna win GSL, and we all know that's the only one that matters <.<
they just had terran champion, they're getting an ssl champion. look man i just want more zergs to do well t.t
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On March 15 2015 05:35 Jazzman88 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:34 OtherWorld wrote:
And the Protoss hate is making me laugh so much. It's OK people, you can give one tournament to other races than Terran once in a while. Additionally, Trap rocks, and having at least one P in the finals was so predictable. Agreed with at least one P to finals, but I honestly thought it would be herO if it was anybody.
Me too tbh.
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people love it when Terrans win because Terran is the best race in the game, everyone knows this.
Zerg is ok, they can have a few. But, no one likes Protoss.
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On March 15 2015 05:35 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:33 boxerfred wrote:On March 15 2015 05:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On March 15 2015 05:28 Rollora wrote:
lelelelel.
If you don't want to actually engage the enemy create a wall that prevents his army to do anything.
Forcefields must be the most hated spell in the game :D
I seriously doubt the designer who made it was sane, as it can't be a good Idea to make a game that is about war and strategy and then invent a spell that makes you win without war and strategy (well if you count blocking units it could be called a valuable strategy).
I really don't get so many design decisions about protoss. The forcefileds, the colossus (as an easy to use, High-damage-output AOE unit that needs no skill, I always thought such units shouldn't exist) and the warpins. And the many allins and bullshit tactics possible around this.
They always make me hate the protoss race so much, I don't watch the games with toss anymore.
While I understand it takes skill to use all these abilities to the max, Blizzard knows from the very early days of sc2 that there is a lot of hate about all that and so many people are frustrated because of these abilities.
I don't understand why blizzard doesn't want to change that 2/3 of the players are frustrated with the game. Of course every race is a little bit frustrated about 1-2 things about the other race (Fungals or Widow Mines) but with protoss there are SO MANY things to get frustrated about. I really don't understand why that can't be changed. Propably because Protoss would be less a technical race and more a mechanical, but this would make playing and watching it more fun. Like: having more powerful gateway units but not being required to have so many powerful spells.
And yeah, I guess I am salty, since this guy killed 2 of my favorite terrans with bullshit and stuff that make me mad about toss (because they seem to be easier to execute than to defend against) and now also one of the best zergs.
Allins shouldn't be THAT strong, srsly. And from a failed allin in the beginning you shouldn't be able to come back like that.
And yeah, I do understand that Trap played phenomenal, he wouldn't be able to beat Flash, Fantasy and Dark if he didn't.
Still, I hate these abilities, I wished Trap showed some phenomenal macro games without all that stuff. You, and it seems the entirety of reddit, are so fucking mad right now. I get it though, FFs are dumb and have been dumb since day 1 I strongly disagree with your point about forcefields. Like, the could work, but they just feels like 1 or 2 forcefields decide the entire game far too often.
Protoss would be even weaker than they already are if ff were taken out or nerfed in anyway, people make these unbelievable claims about protoss and quite frankly its plainly stupid, the only thing that I can maybe agree with is collo too strong, but its only because ht arent viable in hots hopefully lotv will change that
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On March 15 2015 05:37 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:36 Elentos wrote:On March 15 2015 05:34 OtherWorld wrote:
And the Protoss hate is making me laugh so much. It's OK people, you can give one tournament to other races than Terran once in a while. Additionally, Trap rocks, and having at least one P in the finals was so predictable. Well, no Terran's gonna win GSL, and we all know that's the only one that matters <.< they just had terran champion, they're getting an ssl champion. look man i just want more zergs to do well t.t
Then they should try to play more like Life, Rogue and Dark and less like soO <.<
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On March 15 2015 05:36 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:34 OtherWorld wrote:
And the Protoss hate is making me laugh so much. It's OK people, you can give one tournament to other races than Terran once in a while. Additionally, Trap rocks, and having at least one P in the finals was so predictable. Well, no Terran's gonna win GSL, and we all know that's the only one that matters <.<
Low quality = Low priority.
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On March 15 2015 05:32 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On March 15 2015 05:28 Rollora wrote:
lelelelel.
If you don't want to actually engage the enemy create a wall that prevents his army to do anything.
Forcefields must be the most hated spell in the game :D
I seriously doubt the designer who made it was sane, as it can't be a good Idea to make a game that is about war and strategy and then invent a spell that makes you win without war and strategy (well if you count blocking units it could be called a valuable strategy).
I really don't get so many design decisions about protoss. The forcefileds, the colossus (as an easy to use, High-damage-output AOE unit that needs no skill, I always thought such units shouldn't exist) and the warpins. And the many allins and bullshit tactics possible around this.
They always make me hate the protoss race so much, I don't watch the games with toss anymore.
While I understand it takes skill to use all these abilities to the max, Blizzard knows from the very early days of sc2 that there is a lot of hate about all that and so many people are frustrated because of these abilities.
I don't understand why blizzard doesn't want to change that 2/3 of the players are frustrated with the game. Of course every race is a little bit frustrated about 1-2 things about the other race (Fungals or Widow Mines) but with protoss there are SO MANY things to get frustrated about. I really don't understand why that can't be changed. Propably because Protoss would be less a technical race and more a mechanical, but this would make playing and watching it more fun. Like: having more powerful gateway units but not being required to have so many powerful spells.
And yeah, I guess I am salty, since this guy killed 2 of my favorite terrans with bullshit and stuff that make me mad about toss (because they seem to be easier to execute than to defend against) and now also one of the best zergs.
Allins shouldn't be THAT strong, srsly. And from a failed allin in the beginning you shouldn't be able to come back like that.
And yeah, I do understand that Trap played phenomenal, he wouldn't be able to beat Flash, Fantasy and Dark if he didn't.
Still, I hate these abilities, I wished Trap showed some phenomenal macro games without all that stuff. You, and it seems the entirety of reddit, are so fucking mad right now. I get it though, FFs are dumb and have been dumb since day 1 To be fair he raises a good point. Nobody gets that upset about a Terran or Zerg winning, but when Protoss wins like that everyone loses their mind...
It's not news that every time protoss wins a game someone has something to say. We're used to it.
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On March 15 2015 05:37 Popkiller wrote:
people love it when Terrans win because Terran is the best race in the game, everyone knows this.
Zerg is ok, they can have a few. But, no one likes Protoss.
hey guess what, fuck terran 90% of it is bullshit, Zerg=Protoss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Terran
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On March 15 2015 05:37 Popkiller wrote:
people love it when Terrans win because Terran is the best race in the game, everyone knows this.
Zerg is ok, they can have a few. But, no one likes Protoss.
hahaahaha
It's all true of course.
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On March 15 2015 05:37 Popkiller wrote:
people love it when Terrans win because Terran is the best race in the game, everyone knows this.
Zerg is ok, they can have a few. But, no one likes Protoss.
I'm a Zerg at heart and I like Protoss. I mean, the concept of Protoss at least.
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On March 15 2015 05:34 boxerfred wrote:
Just theorycrafting: imagine sentries to throw little timewarps for the duration of forcefields, while the MSC throws a forcefield for the duration of a timewarp (size like 3-4 forcefields)
What? Slow is boring, Forcefields are freaking amazing.
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On March 15 2015 05:37 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:36 Elentos wrote:On March 15 2015 05:34 OtherWorld wrote:
And the Protoss hate is making me laugh so much. It's OK people, you can give one tournament to other races than Terran once in a while. Additionally, Trap rocks, and having at least one P in the finals was so predictable. Well, no Terran's gonna win GSL, and we all know that's the only one that matters <.< they just had terran champion, they're getting an ssl champion. look man i just want more zergs to do well t.t
Life can win code s.
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I'm not complaining about protoss, It's just depressing being a zerg player at the moment.
i didnt have a lot of time for this tournament so I tried to catch the zerg games when I could and so I didn't get to see dark vs maru/taeja but just watched zerg lose repeatedly.
It's hard to describe but it isn't like you watch and see a zerg player do something awesome , it's like you watch them live long enough to build swarm hosts .
I'm bummed dark is out and just totally uninspired with my race at the moment.
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I like it when good players win.
Cmon guys, of all the times in SC2 to moan about balance, this is the worst one.
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Currently the game is balanced, deal with it guys.
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On March 15 2015 05:38 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:32 KeksX wrote:On March 15 2015 05:30 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On March 15 2015 05:28 Rollora wrote:
lelelelel.
If you don't want to actually engage the enemy create a wall that prevents his army to do anything.
Forcefields must be the most hated spell in the game :D
I seriously doubt the designer who made it was sane, as it can't be a good Idea to make a game that is about war and strategy and then invent a spell that makes you win without war and strategy (well if you count blocking units it could be called a valuable strategy).
I really don't get so many design decisions about protoss. The forcefileds, the colossus (as an easy to use, High-damage-output AOE unit that needs no skill, I always thought such units shouldn't exist) and the warpins. And the many allins and bullshit tactics possible around this.
They always make me hate the protoss race so much, I don't watch the games with toss anymore.
While I understand it takes skill to use all these abilities to the max, Blizzard knows from the very early days of sc2 that there is a lot of hate about all that and so many people are frustrated because of these abilities.
I don't understand why blizzard doesn't want to change that 2/3 of the players are frustrated with the game. Of course every race is a little bit frustrated about 1-2 things about the other race (Fungals or Widow Mines) but with protoss there are SO MANY things to get frustrated about. I really don't understand why that can't be changed. Propably because Protoss would be less a technical race and more a mechanical, but this would make playing and watching it more fun. Like: having more powerful gateway units but not being required to have so many powerful spells.
And yeah, I guess I am salty, since this guy killed 2 of my favorite terrans with bullshit and stuff that make me mad about toss (because they seem to be easier to execute than to defend against) and now also one of the best zergs.
Allins shouldn't be THAT strong, srsly. And from a failed allin in the beginning you shouldn't be able to come back like that.
And yeah, I do understand that Trap played phenomenal, he wouldn't be able to beat Flash, Fantasy and Dark if he didn't.
Still, I hate these abilities, I wished Trap showed some phenomenal macro games without all that stuff. You, and it seems the entirety of reddit, are so fucking mad right now. I get it though, FFs are dumb and have been dumb since day 1 To be fair he raises a good point. Nobody gets that upset about a Terran or Zerg winning, but when Protoss wins like that everyone loses their mind... It's not news that every time protoss wins a game someone has something to say. We're used to it.
There's definitely a pattern, though. If you ask people about balance and design things, Protoss is the first thing to talk about. Not only about "Protoss so imba, pls nerf", but also "the only viable way to win as Protoss is to do stuff like X".
The thing is, outside of tournaments, people don't really see a reason to talk about it.
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On March 15 2015 05:39 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 05:37 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On March 15 2015 05:36 Elentos wrote:On March 15 2015 05:34 OtherWorld wrote:
And the Protoss hate is making me laugh so much. It's OK people, you can give one tournament to other races than Terran once in a while. Additionally, Trap rocks, and having at least one P in the finals was so predictable. Well, no Terran's gonna win GSL, and we all know that's the only one that matters <.< they just had terran champion, they're getting an ssl champion. look man i just want more zergs to do well t.t Life can win code s.
i said more zergs, not one
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Oh my god I made it home to watch this. How awesome!
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