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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
March 05 2015 13:12 GMT
#1421
On March 05 2015 22:12 opisska wrote:
Bloody fixed rigged liquibets, they used the scheduling change to rob us life-belivers of 5 points

Yup
I Protoss winner, could it be?
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 05 2015 13:13 GMT
#1422
On March 05 2015 22:12 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 22:11 KelsierSC wrote:
Dream sounds seriously tilted. That can happen against life. Opponents just seem to make more mistakes against him.

Olli insists it is all luck

well with that kinda luck kid should just play the lotto
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55572 Posts
March 05 2015 13:13 GMT
#1423
Dream ruined himself with them manner MULEs.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
March 05 2015 13:13 GMT
#1424
2 base spire gogo
Hello
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 05 2015 13:13 GMT
#1425
On March 05 2015 22:10 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 22:08 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:04 Alchemik wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:59 ETisME wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:58 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:55 Swisslink wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:52 GoraKasul wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:50 Swisslink wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:48 GoraKasul wrote:
Free units + energy = so exciting!
...
Wish this would finally stop


People are seriously blaming the Zerg for the shit that's going on right now? o_O


Not the player but rather that mechanic and the meta.
I mean we could blame Protoss instead if that's more down your alley.

Well, from Broodlord/Infestor to Swarmhost/Infestor... what a twist!



I'd blame the entire static shitty styles for this. Doesn't matter if it's Mech, SH or an ultra defensive Protoss. But while Terran and Protoss got another option to play the game, Zerg doesn't late game.


I think there is this weird entitlement that all races should be able to win at all stages of the game. Like I dont enjoy swarmhost games. If you take them out you get

"zerg can't beat late game mech"

Yeh duh its the strongest army in the game. You have to try and break the Terran earlier and make things happen. It makes for more interesting games Imo.

you also have to make it more breakable then, mech is too map dependent to really balance around


I dont know if you need to make it.more breakable. There are lots of options earlier on like an early pool or a roach/bane all in. Like you should have some armies that can't be beaten.
Also it makes the games where life does beat a mech Terran fucking awesome rather than people bitching about free units.

early pool isn't a "reaction" to mech
roach/bane pretty much isn't one as well
later all-ins are gimmicky
mech isn't actually weak in the mid-game, it's just a misconception some people have for some reason
also, I don't think you should have unbeatable armies, it's just dumb


Well the previous poster was saying mech is too good on certain maps and needs to be breakable. I'm saying if its a good mech map and your opponent likes to go mech you have early aggressive options or you can break them midgame. I think you should have super powerful armies that cant be beaten because it makes players adapt their play and try different approaches rather than having this strange idea that all rsces can win all the time.

what it makes, especially with Zerg, is just have a timer where you have to all-in before it runs out

it's not fun for anyone


Dunno sounds fun to me having a zerg throw everything at a terran. Roach drops,.muta harass, ling pushes just going ham trying t break.

Rather Than just making swarm hosts and waiting for the fight.

Just different opinions but I think the issue is people feel entitled that they should have an answer to everything all the time.
Zerg for Life
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17734 Posts
March 05 2015 13:13 GMT
#1426
On March 05 2015 22:12 opisska wrote:
Bloody fixed rigged liquibets, they used the scheduling change to rob us life-belivers of 5 points

in WCS Wars everything counts lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 05 2015 13:13 GMT
#1427
btw everybody's doing the calling it before it's over thing again, just saying
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#1428
On March 05 2015 22:12 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 22:11 KelsierSC wrote:
Dream sounds seriously tilted. That can happen against life. Opponents just seem to make more mistakes against him.

Olli insists it is all luck


Not all!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50976 Posts
March 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#1429
On March 05 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 22:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:09 hansonslee wrote:
But but but... The KT CURSE!!!!!


KT curse has always been more prominent in proleague

On March 05 2015 22:09 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:03 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:02 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:01 hansonslee wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:57 hansonslee wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
[quote]

the last time I saw a zerg get this mad it didn't end well for the terran, then again that was 5 years ago and it was BW.

that was a good series though.


[image loading]



thank god, I didn't think you'd get the reference.


I thought it was JD?


it is jaedong.

You're watching SC2 now?


for KT players.

Since Life's pretty good in indiv leagues we'll see you pretty often then d:


I don't see life as a KT player yet. :/

You mean you're not used to him being on KT yet or you wait for him to prove himself on KT to see him as a KT player?


hah, he doesn't need to prove anything, maybe I'm just not used to seeing him on KT.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
SackOfWetMice
Profile Joined October 2014
United States288 Posts
March 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#1430
On March 05 2015 22:11 hansonslee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 22:10 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:09 HolydaKing wrote:
Yeeaaaaaaaaaah Life! Good pickup from KT. :D

Were you unsure whether Life was a good pickup for KT before or something?


LOL. This is coming from a guy who said that KT was a joke!

?

You don't have to be a KT fan to recognize that signing Life is a good pick-up for KT. You just have to have a brain.
Zest - Flash - TY - Top 3 SC2! - KT Rolster Fighting, #6 team in Proleague! - Zest #1 Proleague Ace Player!
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#1431
On March 05 2015 22:13 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 22:10 Alchemik wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:08 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:04 Alchemik wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:59 ETisME wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:58 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:55 Swisslink wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:52 GoraKasul wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:50 Swisslink wrote:
[quote]

People are seriously blaming the Zerg for the shit that's going on right now? o_O


Not the player but rather that mechanic and the meta.
I mean we could blame Protoss instead if that's more down your alley.

Well, from Broodlord/Infestor to Swarmhost/Infestor... what a twist!



I'd blame the entire static shitty styles for this. Doesn't matter if it's Mech, SH or an ultra defensive Protoss. But while Terran and Protoss got another option to play the game, Zerg doesn't late game.


I think there is this weird entitlement that all races should be able to win at all stages of the game. Like I dont enjoy swarmhost games. If you take them out you get

"zerg can't beat late game mech"

Yeh duh its the strongest army in the game. You have to try and break the Terran earlier and make things happen. It makes for more interesting games Imo.

you also have to make it more breakable then, mech is too map dependent to really balance around


I dont know if you need to make it.more breakable. There are lots of options earlier on like an early pool or a roach/bane all in. Like you should have some armies that can't be beaten.
Also it makes the games where life does beat a mech Terran fucking awesome rather than people bitching about free units.

early pool isn't a "reaction" to mech
roach/bane pretty much isn't one as well
later all-ins are gimmicky
mech isn't actually weak in the mid-game, it's just a misconception some people have for some reason
also, I don't think you should have unbeatable armies, it's just dumb


Well the previous poster was saying mech is too good on certain maps and needs to be breakable. I'm saying if its a good mech map and your opponent likes to go mech you have early aggressive options or you can break them midgame. I think you should have super powerful armies that cant be beaten because it makes players adapt their play and try different approaches rather than having this strange idea that all rsces can win all the time.

what it makes, especially with Zerg, is just have a timer where you have to all-in before it runs out

it's not fun for anyone


Dunno sounds fun to me having a zerg throw everything at a terran. Roach drops,.muta harass, ling pushes just going ham trying t break.

Rather Than just making swarm hosts and waiting for the fight.

Just different opinions but I think the issue is people feel entitled that they should have an answer to everything all the time.

all inning every game and not being able to actually play macro doesn't seem fun to me in any way
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 13:14:44
March 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#1432
Life making a lot of lings :o

E: Dat play
Hello
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
March 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#1433
On March 05 2015 22:13 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
btw everybody's doing the calling it before it's over thing again, just saying

Human nature, it's why we suck
I Protoss winner, could it be?
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#1434
Hahahaha the retard magnet! :D
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
March 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#1435
sick bait
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
March 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#1436
On March 05 2015 22:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:09 hansonslee wrote:
But but but... The KT CURSE!!!!!


KT curse has always been more prominent in proleague

On March 05 2015 22:09 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:03 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:02 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:01 hansonslee wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:57 hansonslee wrote:
[quote]

[image loading]



thank god, I didn't think you'd get the reference.


I thought it was JD?


it is jaedong.

You're watching SC2 now?


for KT players.

Since Life's pretty good in indiv leagues we'll see you pretty often then d:


I don't see life as a KT player yet. :/

You mean you're not used to him being on KT yet or you wait for him to prove himself on KT to see him as a KT player?


hah, he doesn't need to prove anything, maybe I'm just not used to seeing him on KT.


I don't blame you. I still see him as ZeNex
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12715 Posts
March 05 2015 13:15 GMT
#1437
retard magnetttttttttttttt
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 05 2015 13:15 GMT
#1438
LIFE LIFE LIFE LIFE LETS GOOO.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45915 Posts
March 05 2015 13:15 GMT
#1439
Life with the mind games!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
March 05 2015 13:15 GMT
#1440
the Life drone
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