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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 05 2015 13:10 GMT
#1401
On March 05 2015 22:10 y0su wrote:
Dream's coach needs to come up with something else

A new mouse?
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 05 2015 13:10 GMT
#1402
On March 05 2015 22:09 Ej_ wrote:
yo phone lost battery only now got a break long enough to use a PC at school

how did Life even lose 2 maps to Dream???

dream played really really well
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
March 05 2015 13:10 GMT
#1403
On March 05 2015 22:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
life literally killing all hopes and dream


Life never played vs mouzHope!
http://aligulac.com/players/3-Life/results/
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 05 2015 13:10 GMT
#1404
On March 05 2015 22:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 22:04 Alchemik wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:59 ETisME wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:58 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:55 Swisslink wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:52 GoraKasul wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:50 Swisslink wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:48 GoraKasul wrote:
Free units + energy = so exciting!
...
Wish this would finally stop


People are seriously blaming the Zerg for the shit that's going on right now? o_O


Not the player but rather that mechanic and the meta.
I mean we could blame Protoss instead if that's more down your alley.

Well, from Broodlord/Infestor to Swarmhost/Infestor... what a twist!



I'd blame the entire static shitty styles for this. Doesn't matter if it's Mech, SH or an ultra defensive Protoss. But while Terran and Protoss got another option to play the game, Zerg doesn't late game.


I think there is this weird entitlement that all races should be able to win at all stages of the game. Like I dont enjoy swarmhost games. If you take them out you get

"zerg can't beat late game mech"

Yeh duh its the strongest army in the game. You have to try and break the Terran earlier and make things happen. It makes for more interesting games Imo.

you also have to make it more breakable then, mech is too map dependent to really balance around


I dont know if you need to make it.more breakable. There are lots of options earlier on like an early pool or a roach/bane all in. Like you should have some armies that can't be beaten.
Also it makes the games where life does beat a mech Terran fucking awesome rather than people bitching about free units.

early pool isn't a "reaction" to mech
roach/bane pretty much isn't one as well
later all-ins are gimmicky
mech isn't actually weak in the mid-game, it's just a misconception some people have for some reason
also, I don't think you should have unbeatable armies, it's just dumb


Well the previous poster was saying mech is too good on certain maps and needs to be breakable. I'm saying if its a good mech map and your opponent likes to go mech you have early aggressive options or you can break them midgame. I think you should have super powerful armies that cant be beaten because it makes players adapt their play and try different approaches rather than having this strange idea that all rsces can win all the time.

what it makes, especially with Zerg, is just have a timer where you have to all-in before it runs out

it's not fun for anyone

ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12893 Posts
March 05 2015 13:10 GMT
#1405
On March 05 2015 22:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 22:04 Alchemik wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:59 ETisME wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:58 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:55 Swisslink wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:52 GoraKasul wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:50 Swisslink wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:48 GoraKasul wrote:
Free units + energy = so exciting!
...
Wish this would finally stop


People are seriously blaming the Zerg for the shit that's going on right now? o_O


Not the player but rather that mechanic and the meta.
I mean we could blame Protoss instead if that's more down your alley.

Well, from Broodlord/Infestor to Swarmhost/Infestor... what a twist!



I'd blame the entire static shitty styles for this. Doesn't matter if it's Mech, SH or an ultra defensive Protoss. But while Terran and Protoss got another option to play the game, Zerg doesn't late game.


I think there is this weird entitlement that all races should be able to win at all stages of the game. Like I dont enjoy swarmhost games. If you take them out you get

"zerg can't beat late game mech"

Yeh duh its the strongest army in the game. You have to try and break the Terran earlier and make things happen. It makes for more interesting games Imo.

you also have to make it more breakable then, mech is too map dependent to really balance around


I dont know if you need to make it.more breakable. There are lots of options earlier on like an early pool or a roach/bane all in. Like you should have some armies that can't be beaten.
Also it makes the games where life does beat a mech Terran fucking awesome rather than people bitching about free units.

early pool isn't a "reaction" to mech
roach/bane pretty much isn't one as well
later all-ins are gimmicky
mech isn't actually weak in the mid-game, it's just a misconception some people have for some reason
also, I don't think you should have unbeatable armies, it's just dumb


Well the previous poster was saying mech is too good on certain maps and needs to be breakable. I'm saying if its a good mech map and your opponent likes to go mech you have early aggressive options or you can break them midgame. I think you should have super powerful armies that cant be beaten because it makes players adapt their play and try different approaches rather than having this strange idea that all rsces can win all the time.

I am not really saying mech is too good on certain maps but that its balance (breakabliilty) is too dependant on map.
but it's more or less too late to argue about it when lotv is coming haha
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 05 2015 13:10 GMT
#1406
On March 05 2015 22:09 Zealously wrote:
I'm sorry I cant hear you over the sound of how good Life is


But what about the Flash practice!? :o
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hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
March 05 2015 13:11 GMT
#1407
On March 05 2015 22:10 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 22:09 HolydaKing wrote:
Yeeaaaaaaaaaah Life! Good pickup from KT. :D

Were you unsure whether Life was a good pickup for KT before or something?


LOL. This is coming from a guy who said that KT was a joke!
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
March 05 2015 13:11 GMT
#1408
On March 05 2015 22:10 y0su wrote:
Dream's coach needs to come up with something else

Run for his life?

Again, apologies
I Protoss winner, could it be?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 05 2015 13:11 GMT
#1409
Dream sounds seriously tilted. That can happen against life. Opponents just seem to make more mistakes against him.
Zerg for Life
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
March 05 2015 13:11 GMT
#1410
On March 05 2015 22:09 Zealously wrote:
I'm sorry I cant hear you over the sound of how good Life is


You arent better than the others you know...
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
March 05 2015 13:11 GMT
#1411
Dream come on, take two games in a row!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
March 05 2015 13:11 GMT
#1412
On March 05 2015 22:09 hansonslee wrote:
But but but... The KT CURSE!!!!!


KT curse has always been more prominent in proleague

On March 05 2015 22:09 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 22:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:03 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:02 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:01 hansonslee wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:57 hansonslee wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:52 hansonslee wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
dude life looks fucking mad.


Because Dream is pretty BM (seriously!)


the last time I saw a zerg get this mad it didn't end well for the terran, then again that was 5 years ago and it was BW.

that was a good series though.


[image loading]



thank god, I didn't think you'd get the reference.


I thought it was JD?


it is jaedong.

You're watching SC2 now?


for KT players.

Since Life's pretty good in indiv leagues we'll see you pretty often then d:


I don't see life as a KT player yet. :/
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
SackOfWetMice
Profile Joined October 2014
United States288 Posts
March 05 2015 13:11 GMT
#1413
On March 05 2015 22:10 y0su wrote:
Dream's coach needs to come up with something else

He should do his bio parade push + thor-medivac-drop micro style that he used early on in the NSSL, and that started the Dream hype train. Don't think I've seen him use it since, so could be time to bring that out again.
Zest - Flash - TY - Top 3 SC2! - KT Rolster Fighting, #6 team in Proleague! - Zest #1 Proleague Ace Player!
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
March 05 2015 13:12 GMT
#1414
On March 05 2015 22:11 KelsierSC wrote:
Dream sounds seriously tilted. That can happen against life. Opponents just seem to make more mistakes against him.


Even TaeJa gets tilted against him.
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
LastLordofCastamere
Profile Joined February 2011
288 Posts
March 05 2015 13:12 GMT
#1415
On March 05 2015 22:10 Swisslink wrote:
I haven't seen the first two maps. And somehow I don't know how Dream won the first two... :o



Life needs a map or two to warm his wrists...
"And who are you", the proud lord said "That I must bow so low?"
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 13:12:21
March 05 2015 13:12 GMT
#1416
On March 05 2015 22:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 22:09 hansonslee wrote:
But but but... The KT CURSE!!!!!


KT curse has always been more prominent in proleague

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 22:09 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:03 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:02 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:01 hansonslee wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:57 hansonslee wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:52 hansonslee wrote:
[quote]

Because Dream is pretty BM (seriously!)


the last time I saw a zerg get this mad it didn't end well for the terran, then again that was 5 years ago and it was BW.

that was a good series though.


[image loading]



thank god, I didn't think you'd get the reference.


I thought it was JD?


it is jaedong.

You're watching SC2 now?


for KT players.

Since Life's pretty good in indiv leagues we'll see you pretty often then d:


I don't see life as a KT player yet. :/

You mean you're not used to him being on KT yet or you wait for him to prove himself on KT to see him as a KT player?
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 05 2015 13:12 GMT
#1417
Bloody fixed rigged liquibets, they used the scheduling change to rob us life-belivers of 5 points
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 05 2015 13:12 GMT
#1418
On March 05 2015 22:11 KelsierSC wrote:
Dream sounds seriously tilted. That can happen against life. Opponents just seem to make more mistakes against him.

Olli insists it is all luck
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
March 05 2015 13:12 GMT
#1419
[image loading]
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(Z)Life                    (T)Dream
Score
3-2

Map: Merry Go Round

Life spawns in the bottom
Dream spawns in the top right
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
March 05 2015 13:12 GMT
#1420
On March 05 2015 22:11 hansonslee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 22:10 SackOfWetMice wrote:
On March 05 2015 22:09 HolydaKing wrote:
Yeeaaaaaaaaaah Life! Good pickup from KT. :D

Were you unsure whether Life was a good pickup for KT before or something?


LOL. This is coming from a guy who said that KT was a joke!


hes not a KT fan.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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