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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
January 15 2015 11:34 GMT
#301
On January 15 2015 20:32 SoulmaN__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 20:23 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:21 SoulmaN__ wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:18 opisska wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote:
[quote]

every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker.
good execution? what are you talking about:D


Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that


wow so salty

+ Show Spoiler +
haha i can do that crap to
learn to discuss


I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it.


i only complained about your comment
dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp.
excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps?


Where is the skill in SCV pulls?


Consideiring how every second SCV pull gets totally botched, it would seem that some skill is indeed required ...


I know that, but he obviously doesn't.

The skill with SCV pulls, or all ins in general is not letting the opponent know what you are doing. Terminator here hid his all in until he was at fantasys very doorstep. Can you do that, too? No. Can I SCV pull without letting the opponent know? Probably not.

So don't talk like that, Terran is highly favored in the matchup anyway.


aligulac says pvt is at ~48% winrate, is that highly favoured for you?


Aligulac has like 1600+ games. Did you see 1600 games played by pros in december? Me neither.

When will people finally understand that aligulac is a really really bad source for statistics because it includes diamond players?! Hell, I played in WCS qualifier #5, and I bet I would find my game in the stats for january's TvZ stats (which honestly is a joke).

The real TvP winrate is at 57% in PRO games in TOURNAMENTS since august, which is as broken as TvZ in HotS initially.

Things are evening out right now, which doesn't change that the matchup is horrible to watch because it's collossus first vs. SCV pull half the time, and some Protoss cheese the other half. The proposed widow mine change will do TvP soooooo good.


so you think i should trust your 57%(where did you take that from) more than a database that has every single game? why should lower ranked players not matter for that statistic?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 15 2015 11:35 GMT
#302
On January 15 2015 20:31 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 20:27 The_Templar wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:23 The_Templar wrote:
Starcraft II Starleague RO16: Group A

(Z)Leenock vs (P)Super
0-1


Map: King Sejong Station


Leenock spawns in the top left
Super spawns in the bottom right

2:00
Forge first for Super.
Leenock opening hatchery first.
Leenock's overlord sees a scouting probe.
Pylon at Leenock's natural.
Leenock pulls 6 drones, then two more.

3:00
Super expanding.
The probe runs into Leenock's main and the drones back off of the pylon.
Queens + zerglings being made.
Gateway + two assimilators for Super.
Super's pylon is killed by zerglings.

4:00
Super building a cannon at home.
Super starts his cybernetics core.
Leenock builds his third base.

5:00
Zerglings start scouting for proxies.
+1 attack starts for Super.
Leenock building drones and has no gas.
Super chronoboosting warp gate.
Zerglings are being very exhaustive when looking for proxies.
Super adding two gateways.
Mothership core for Super.

6:00
Stalker + MSC + probe moving out for Super.
Leenock getting a roach warren.
A zergling sees no third base.
Super building a robotics facility.
+1 armor for Super.

7:00 (Z)Leenock 74 vs (P)Super 58
Leenock getting a lot of roaches and zerglings as Super attacks his third.
Zergling speed isn't finished and stalkers kite the army of Leenock.
Three more gateways for Super.
Lots of roaches and zerglings falling.
Zergling speed finishes and a recall is forced.
Immortal is built, observer being chronoboosted.
Lair for Leenock.

9:00 (Z)Leenock 87 vs (P)Super 69
Super going up to 8 gateways.
Hydralisk den on the way for Leenock.
Leenock building four spine crawlers.
Roach speed on the way for Leenock.
Super loses two stalkers to speedlings.

10:00 (Z)Leenock 105 vs (P)Super 81
Leenock building a lot of zerglings.
Hydralisks being made by Leenocl.
Super pushing towards the third base.
Leenock has only some roach/ling as hydralisks finish.
Super runs in and FFs off the army of Leenock.
Huge zergling flank does little.

11:00 (Z)Leenock 106 vs (P)Super 95
The FFs manage to reduce Leenock's army significantly.
Leenock pulling drones.
More FFs trap hydralisks but more and more hydralisks are being produced.

12:00 (Z)Leenock 91vs (P)Super 65
The attack is warded off.
Super tries dropping the natural.
23 workers have died to this attack.
Robotics bay for Super.

13:00 (Z)Leenock 100 vs (P)Super 83
Hydralisks are positioned in the natural mineral line, where Leenock was being dropped.
Tunneling claws being researched by Leenock.
Hydralisks chase an observer but they don't catch it.
Third base for Super.
Extended thermal lance and colossi being made.
The immortal/stalker drop is attempted again, but is completely shut down.

14:00 (Z)Leenock 141 vs (P)Super 99
Burrow finishing for Leenock, soon followed by tunneling claws.
Leenock scouts the main base and sees all of the gateways.
Leenock also has hydralisk range.
Leenock sees the completed third base.

15:00 (Z)Leenock 182 vs (P)Super 121
Super tries attacking Leenock with good FFs, but tunneling claws prevents him from doing so and he has to back off.
Leenock chases super hack to his third base.
Colossi being microed.
Two colossi are saved and Leenock regroups.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 15 2015 11:36 GMT
#303
3 colli die for Super very bad. Can't lose them like that.
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
January 15 2015 11:36 GMT
#304
Hahaha force field on top of a colossus is the funniest thing in the game
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 15 2015 11:37 GMT
#305
rofl super wtf.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 15 2015 11:37 GMT
#306
On January 15 2015 20:36 Pandemona wrote:
3 colli die for Super very bad. Can't lose them like that.

yeah that was atrocious
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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
January 15 2015 11:37 GMT
#307
funny how the first game was the SH mistake and the 2nd was the colossus
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2241 Posts
January 15 2015 11:37 GMT
#308
this game is so bad from both sides
Cogito, ergo Toss
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 15 2015 11:37 GMT
#309
On January 15 2015 20:35 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 20:31 The_Templar wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:27 The_Templar wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:23 The_Templar wrote:
Starcraft II Starleague RO16: Group A

(Z)Leenock vs (P)Super
0-1


Map: King Sejong Station


Leenock spawns in the top left
Super spawns in the bottom right

2:00
Forge first for Super.
Leenock opening hatchery first.
Leenock's overlord sees a scouting probe.
Pylon at Leenock's natural.
Leenock pulls 6 drones, then two more.

3:00
Super expanding.
The probe runs into Leenock's main and the drones back off of the pylon.
Queens + zerglings being made.
Gateway + two assimilators for Super.
Super's pylon is killed by zerglings.

4:00
Super building a cannon at home.
Super starts his cybernetics core.
Leenock builds his third base.

5:00
Zerglings start scouting for proxies.
+1 attack starts for Super.
Leenock building drones and has no gas.
Super chronoboosting warp gate.
Zerglings are being very exhaustive when looking for proxies.
Super adding two gateways.
Mothership core for Super.

6:00
Stalker + MSC + probe moving out for Super.
Leenock getting a roach warren.
A zergling sees no third base.
Super building a robotics facility.
+1 armor for Super.

7:00 (Z)Leenock 74 vs (P)Super 58
Leenock getting a lot of roaches and zerglings as Super attacks his third.
Zergling speed isn't finished and stalkers kite the army of Leenock.
Three more gateways for Super.
Lots of roaches and zerglings falling.
Zergling speed finishes and a recall is forced.
Immortal is built, observer being chronoboosted.
Lair for Leenock.

9:00 (Z)Leenock 87 vs (P)Super 69
Super going up to 8 gateways.
Hydralisk den on the way for Leenock.
Leenock building four spine crawlers.
Roach speed on the way for Leenock.
Super loses two stalkers to speedlings.

10:00 (Z)Leenock 105 vs (P)Super 81
Leenock building a lot of zerglings.
Hydralisks being made by Leenocl.
Super pushing towards the third base.
Leenock has only some roach/ling as hydralisks finish.
Super runs in and FFs off the army of Leenock.
Huge zergling flank does little.

11:00 (Z)Leenock 106 vs (P)Super 95
The FFs manage to reduce Leenock's army significantly.
Leenock pulling drones.
More FFs trap hydralisks but more and more hydralisks are being produced.

12:00 (Z)Leenock 91vs (P)Super 65
The attack is warded off.
Super tries dropping the natural.
23 workers have died to this attack.
Robotics bay for Super.

13:00 (Z)Leenock 100 vs (P)Super 83
Hydralisks are positioned in the natural mineral line, where Leenock was being dropped.
Tunneling claws being researched by Leenock.
Hydralisks chase an observer but they don't catch it.
Third base for Super.
Extended thermal lance and colossi being made.
The immortal/stalker drop is attempted again, but is completely shut down.

14:00 (Z)Leenock 141 vs (P)Super 99
Burrow finishing for Leenock, soon followed by tunneling claws.
Leenock scouts the main base and sees all of the gateways.
Leenock also has hydralisk range.
Leenock sees the completed third base.

15:00 (Z)Leenock 182 vs (P)Super 121
Super tries attacking Leenock with good FFs, but tunneling claws prevents him from doing so and he has to back off.
Leenock chases super hack to his third base.
Colossi being microed.
Two colossi are saved and Leenock regroups.

17:00 (Z)Leenock 127 vs (P)Super 116
Leenock tries again with roach/hydra/ling but Super retains three colossi.
A fourth base from Leenock is denied.
Spire on the way for Leenock.

18:00 (Z)Leenock 123 vs (P)Super 128
Super going for an attack.
All of Super's colossi are found out of position, even one at his natural, and all but one die.
Roaches going into the third, killing a sentry.
Leenock defending his third base by sniping the last colossus.
Force fields are far too late.
Roaches are killing probes at the third of Super.

20:00 (Z)Leenock 152 vs (P)Super 112
A colossus finishes.
Leenock trying to attack, but kills little and is chased back.
Leenock saturating his fourth base.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 15 2015 11:39 GMT
#310
Nice from Leenock, attacking every base with a decent size hit squad. Good game
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 15 2015 11:39 GMT
#311
On January 15 2015 20:37 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 20:35 The_Templar wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:31 The_Templar wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:27 The_Templar wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:23 The_Templar wrote:
Starcraft II Starleague RO16: Group A

(Z)Leenock vs (P)Super
0-1


Map: King Sejong Station


Leenock spawns in the top left
Super spawns in the bottom right

2:00
Forge first for Super.
Leenock opening hatchery first.
Leenock's overlord sees a scouting probe.
Pylon at Leenock's natural.
Leenock pulls 6 drones, then two more.

3:00
Super expanding.
The probe runs into Leenock's main and the drones back off of the pylon.
Queens + zerglings being made.
Gateway + two assimilators for Super.
Super's pylon is killed by zerglings.

4:00
Super building a cannon at home.
Super starts his cybernetics core.
Leenock builds his third base.

5:00
Zerglings start scouting for proxies.
+1 attack starts for Super.
Leenock building drones and has no gas.
Super chronoboosting warp gate.
Zerglings are being very exhaustive when looking for proxies.
Super adding two gateways.
Mothership core for Super.

6:00
Stalker + MSC + probe moving out for Super.
Leenock getting a roach warren.
A zergling sees no third base.
Super building a robotics facility.
+1 armor for Super.

7:00 (Z)Leenock 74 vs (P)Super 58
Leenock getting a lot of roaches and zerglings as Super attacks his third.
Zergling speed isn't finished and stalkers kite the army of Leenock.
Three more gateways for Super.
Lots of roaches and zerglings falling.
Zergling speed finishes and a recall is forced.
Immortal is built, observer being chronoboosted.
Lair for Leenock.

9:00 (Z)Leenock 87 vs (P)Super 69
Super going up to 8 gateways.
Hydralisk den on the way for Leenock.
Leenock building four spine crawlers.
Roach speed on the way for Leenock.
Super loses two stalkers to speedlings.

10:00 (Z)Leenock 105 vs (P)Super 81
Leenock building a lot of zerglings.
Hydralisks being made by Leenocl.
Super pushing towards the third base.
Leenock has only some roach/ling as hydralisks finish.
Super runs in and FFs off the army of Leenock.
Huge zergling flank does little.

11:00 (Z)Leenock 106 vs (P)Super 95
The FFs manage to reduce Leenock's army significantly.
Leenock pulling drones.
More FFs trap hydralisks but more and more hydralisks are being produced.

12:00 (Z)Leenock 91vs (P)Super 65
The attack is warded off.
Super tries dropping the natural.
23 workers have died to this attack.
Robotics bay for Super.

13:00 (Z)Leenock 100 vs (P)Super 83
Hydralisks are positioned in the natural mineral line, where Leenock was being dropped.
Tunneling claws being researched by Leenock.
Hydralisks chase an observer but they don't catch it.
Third base for Super.
Extended thermal lance and colossi being made.
The immortal/stalker drop is attempted again, but is completely shut down.

14:00 (Z)Leenock 141 vs (P)Super 99
Burrow finishing for Leenock, soon followed by tunneling claws.
Leenock scouts the main base and sees all of the gateways.
Leenock also has hydralisk range.
Leenock sees the completed third base.

15:00 (Z)Leenock 182 vs (P)Super 121
Super tries attacking Leenock with good FFs, but tunneling claws prevents him from doing so and he has to back off.
Leenock chases super hack to his third base.
Colossi being microed.
Two colossi are saved and Leenock regroups.

17:00 (Z)Leenock 127 vs (P)Super 116
Leenock tries again with roach/hydra/ling but Super retains three colossi.
A fourth base from Leenock is denied.
Spire on the way for Leenock.

18:00 (Z)Leenock 123 vs (P)Super 128
Super going for an attack.
All of Super's colossi are found out of position, even one at his natural, and all but one die.
Roaches going into the third, killing a sentry.
Leenock defending his third base by sniping the last colossus.
Force fields are far too late.
Roaches are killing probes at the third of Super.

20:00 (Z)Leenock 152 vs (P)Super 112
A colossus finishes.
Leenock trying to attack, but kills little and is chased back.
Leenock saturating his fourth base.

21:00 (Z)Leenock 171 vs (P)Super 129
Leenock getting mutalisks and zerglings.
Leenock trying to send roaches into the main and third base.
Super chasing on both fronts.
Super's army seems to be everywhere, yet nowhere at the same time.
Fourth base for Super.
Mutalisks go into Super's natural.

22:00 (Z)Leenock 163 vs (P)Super 117
Mutalisks killing stalkers in the main.
Super GG's!
Leenock ties the series up 1-1!
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 15 2015 11:39 GMT
#312
Poll: Recommend Leenock vs Super Game 2?

★★★- Good game (9)
 
82%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
 
18%

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Leenock vs Super Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


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TL+ Member
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
January 15 2015 11:39 GMT
#313
Leenock is so much fun to watch!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
January 15 2015 11:40 GMT
#314
On January 15 2015 20:37 SharkStarcraft wrote:
this game is so bad from both sides

Mistakes were made but still entertaining imo
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
January 15 2015 11:40 GMT
#315
Love seeing that Leenocktopus multi prong harass.
Long live the King of Wings
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 15 2015 11:41 GMT
#316
Starcraft II Starleague RO16: Group A

(Z)Leenock vs (P)Super
1-1


Map: Overgrowth


Leenock spawns in the bottom left
Super spawns in the top right
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 15 2015 11:41 GMT
#317
Good job, Leenock. Now finish him!
Flash | Mvp
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 15 2015 11:42 GMT
#318
These mind games though.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 15 2015 11:43 GMT
#319
haha, slick moves by Leenock
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 15 2015 11:43 GMT
#320
I assume this would have been a build order loss for Leenock if Super had cannon rushed him?
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