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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
January 15 2015 11:19 GMT
#261
On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Was there a bunker? There can't be complaints if there wasnt one.

He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time


Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though


every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker.
good execution? what are you talking about:D


Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that


wow so salty

+ Show Spoiler +
haha i can do that crap to
learn to discuss


I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it.


i only complained about your comment
dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp.
excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps?


Where is the skill in SCV pulls?


nobody said you need skill to do this. i am just complaining about ollis comment that there was skill behind what terminator did.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 15 2015 11:20 GMT
#262
that was a pretty onesided game, holy crap Leenock, get your shit together.
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
January 15 2015 11:20 GMT
#263
huge blunder by leenock
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 15 2015 11:20 GMT
#264
Oh god, naked swarmhost in the middle of the map, that's never a good idea ...
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 15 2015 11:20 GMT
#265
that hurt to watch
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SoulmaN__
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany80 Posts
January 15 2015 11:21 GMT
#266
On January 15 2015 20:18 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Was there a bunker? There can't be complaints if there wasnt one.

He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time


Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though


every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker.
good execution? what are you talking about:D


Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that


wow so salty

+ Show Spoiler +
haha i can do that crap to
learn to discuss


I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it.


i only complained about your comment
dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp.
excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps?


Where is the skill in SCV pulls?


Consideiring how every second SCV pull gets totally botched, it would seem that some skill is indeed required ...


I know that, but he obviously doesn't.

The skill with SCV pulls, or all ins in general is not letting the opponent know what you are doing. Terminator here hid his all in until he was at fantasys very doorstep. Can you do that, too? No. Can I SCV pull without letting the opponent know? Probably not.

So don't talk like that, Terran is highly favored in the matchup anyway.
"I love my family." - soO after his 4th consecutive loss in a GSL final :-(
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
January 15 2015 11:21 GMT
#267
On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Was there a bunker? There can't be complaints if there wasnt one.

He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time


Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though


every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker.
good execution? what are you talking about:D


Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that


wow so salty

+ Show Spoiler +
haha i can do that crap to
learn to discuss


I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it.


i only complained about your comment
dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp.
excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps?


Where is the skill in SCV pulls?



Good macro to maximise the amount of units you have. Lining it up with upgrades or unit timings. Correctly deciding what flavour of SCV pull to use (with/without ghosts, 2 starport viking), how much medivac play to perform before pulling, howmany scvs to put at the third before pulling and microing the push itself all takes a certain degree of skill. I'm sure if you put me and Bomber vs the same Protoss and we both did roughly the same SCV pull there'd be a marked difference between us.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28472 Posts
January 15 2015 11:21 GMT
#268
On January 15 2015 20:20 opisska wrote:
Oh god, naked swarmhost in the middle of the map, that's never a good idea ...

It's embarrassing..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 15 2015 11:21 GMT
#269
On January 15 2015 20:17 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 20:14 The_Templar wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:10 The_Templar wrote:
Starcraft II Starleague RO16: Group A

(Z)Leenock vs (P)Super
0-0


Map: Catallena


Leenock spawns in the left
Super spawns in the bottom right

2:00
Hatchery first versus nexus first.
Leenock scouts the right way with his overlord and goes for a third hatchery before a spawning pool.
Gate + double gas for Super.

3:00
Super building a cybernetics core.
Spawning pool followed by a gas for Leenock. The gas is at the third base.

4:00
Leenock getting two queens.
Mothership core for Super.
Super building a stalker and chronoboosting warp gate research.

5:00
Leenock's overlord just barely doesn't see the chronoboost.
Zergling speed for Leenock.
Two zerglings run towards the natural of Super where two gateways are building.
Leenock getting more drones.
Roach warren on the way for Leenock.
Super getting a forge and still building probes.

7:00 (Z)Leenock 51 vs (P)Super 56
Four stalkers run into the third and attack queens.
Leenock getting a bunch of speedlings.
Zealots warped in as reinforcement kill the speedlings and Super keeps trying to press the third base.
Super has 50 probes.
Roaches finish for Leenock.
Super recalls.

8:00 (Z)Leenock 69 vs (P)Super 74
Third base for Super.
Roach speed being researched.
Super getting a twilight council and robotics facility.

9:00 (Z)Leenock 85 vs (P)Super 86
Zerglings fail to break into the natural of super.
Super traps a ton of roaches and kills them relatively easily.
Infestation pit for Leenock.
Super has about 11 sentries.
Blink being researched.
Super building immortals.
Enduring locusts for Super.

10:00 (Z)Leenock 86 vs (P)Super 102
Super fails to trap another group of roaches.
Leenock building swarm hosts.
Macro hatchery for Leenock.

11:00 (Z)Leenock 122 vs (P)Super 131
Super is at his third and Leenock runs a ton of units into the natural and main base.
Leenock recalls to his natural to deal with this.
Leenock taking his fourth base.
Eight swarm hosts have finished, two more building.

13:00 (Z)Leenock 126 vs (P)Super 142
Colossi + extended thermal lance being made for Super.
Zerglings going on the hunt, but zealot warp ins prevent any great damage.
Super does retreat, however.
+2 attack starts for Super.
Spire finishing for Leenock.
Swarm hosts get a position near Super's third but Super finds them and destroys them.
17 mutalisks for Leenock.

14:00 (Z)Leenock 125 vs (P)Super 162
Spine crawlers being morphed a little late.
Mutalisks attacking the third while Super barrels down his natural.
Stalkers being warped in for reinforcement.

15:00 (Z)Leenock 134 vs (P)Super 172
Zerglings also running into the third base.
Photon overcharge is used on the natural expansion of Super.
Leenock taking his fifth base.
Super killing his main.
Mutalisks trying to shut out Super's third base.
Good blink micro from Super.
Leenock GG's!
Super takes the first map!
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
January 15 2015 11:21 GMT
#270
I don't wanna be hateful but I love when swarmhosts die
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
January 15 2015 11:21 GMT
#271
felt like leenocks build was ok, he probably would have won if he didnt fuck up and lost all hosts for free
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 15 2015 11:22 GMT
#272
Poll: Recommend Leenock vs Super Game 1?

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
 
89%

★★★- Good game (1)
 
11%

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Leenock vs Super Game 1?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


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TL+ Member
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 15 2015 11:22 GMT
#273
On January 15 2015 20:20 Big J wrote:
that was a pretty onesided game, holy crap Leenock, get your shit together.


Just 1 mistake honestly.
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Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
January 15 2015 11:23 GMT
#274
That was very sad
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
January 15 2015 11:23 GMT
#275
He has vision of the army next to his swarm host, had time.... wth were they even doing there in the first place with no support, was too early.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 15 2015 11:23 GMT
#276
On January 15 2015 20:21 SoulmaN__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 20:18 opisska wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote:
[quote]
He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time


Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though


every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker.
good execution? what are you talking about:D


Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that


wow so salty

+ Show Spoiler +
haha i can do that crap to
learn to discuss


I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it.


i only complained about your comment
dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp.
excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps?


Where is the skill in SCV pulls?


Consideiring how every second SCV pull gets totally botched, it would seem that some skill is indeed required ...


I know that, but he obviously doesn't.

The skill with SCV pulls, or all ins in general is not letting the opponent know what you are doing. (...) Can I SCV pull without letting the opponent know? Probably not.

Lol. Between that post and your bizarre ideas about Reaper scouting, you should really stop talking about TvP like you know anything about it
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 15 2015 11:23 GMT
#277
On January 15 2015 20:21 SoulmaN__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 20:18 opisska wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote:
[quote]
He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time


Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though


every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker.
good execution? what are you talking about:D


Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that


wow so salty

+ Show Spoiler +
haha i can do that crap to
learn to discuss


I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it.


i only complained about your comment
dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp.
excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps?


Where is the skill in SCV pulls?


Consideiring how every second SCV pull gets totally botched, it would seem that some skill is indeed required ...


I know that, but he obviously doesn't.

The skill with SCV pulls, or all ins in general is not letting the opponent know what you are doing. Terminator here hid his all in until he was at fantasys very doorstep. Can you do that, too? No. Can I SCV pull without letting the opponent know? Probably not.

So don't talk like that, Terran is highly favored in the matchup anyway.


Seems like I started arguing at the wrong point, I totally agree with you, just I am not good in detecting sarcasm apparently.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 15 2015 11:23 GMT
#278
Starcraft II Starleague RO16: Group A

(Z)Leenock vs (P)Super
0-1


Map: King Sejong Station


Leenock spawns in the top left
Super spawns in the bottom right
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TL+ Member
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
January 15 2015 11:23 GMT
#279
On January 15 2015 20:21 SoulmaN__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 20:18 opisska wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote:
[quote]
He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time


Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though


every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker.
good execution? what are you talking about:D


Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that


wow so salty

+ Show Spoiler +
haha i can do that crap to
learn to discuss


I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it.


i only complained about your comment
dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp.
excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps?


Where is the skill in SCV pulls?


Consideiring how every second SCV pull gets totally botched, it would seem that some skill is indeed required ...


I know that, but he obviously doesn't.

The skill with SCV pulls, or all ins in general is not letting the opponent know what you are doing. Terminator here hid his all in until he was at fantasys very doorstep. Can you do that, too? No. Can I SCV pull without letting the opponent know? Probably not.

So don't talk like that, Terran is highly favored in the matchup anyway.


aligulac says pvt is at ~48% winrate, is that highly favoured for you?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
January 15 2015 11:25 GMT
#280
On January 15 2015 20:23 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 20:21 SoulmaN__ wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:18 opisska wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
[quote]

Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though


every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker.
good execution? what are you talking about:D


Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that


wow so salty

+ Show Spoiler +
haha i can do that crap to
learn to discuss


I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it.


i only complained about your comment
dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp.
excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps?


Where is the skill in SCV pulls?


Consideiring how every second SCV pull gets totally botched, it would seem that some skill is indeed required ...


I know that, but he obviously doesn't.

The skill with SCV pulls, or all ins in general is not letting the opponent know what you are doing. Terminator here hid his all in until he was at fantasys very doorstep. Can you do that, too? No. Can I SCV pull without letting the opponent know? Probably not.

So don't talk like that, Terran is highly favored in the matchup anyway.


aligulac says pvt is at ~48% winrate, is that highly favoured for you?


That's the best it's been in like a year
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