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On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote:On January 15 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Was there a bunker? There can't be complaints if there wasnt one. He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker. good execution? what are you talking about:D Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that wow so salty + Show Spoiler +haha i can do that crap to
learn to discuss I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it. i only complained about your comment dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp. excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps? Where is the skill in SCV pulls?
nobody said you need skill to do this. i am just complaining about ollis comment that there was skill behind what terminator did.
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that was a pretty onesided game, holy crap Leenock, get your shit together.
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Oh god, naked swarmhost in the middle of the map, that's never a good idea ...
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On January 15 2015 20:18 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote:On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote:On January 15 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Was there a bunker? There can't be complaints if there wasnt one. He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker. good execution? what are you talking about:D Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that wow so salty + Show Spoiler +haha i can do that crap to
learn to discuss I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it. i only complained about your comment dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp. excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps? Where is the skill in SCV pulls? Consideiring how every second SCV pull gets totally botched, it would seem that some skill is indeed required ...
I know that, but he obviously doesn't.
The skill with SCV pulls, or all ins in general is not letting the opponent know what you are doing. Terminator here hid his all in until he was at fantasys very doorstep. Can you do that, too? No. Can I SCV pull without letting the opponent know? Probably not.
So don't talk like that, Terran is highly favored in the matchup anyway.
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On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote:On January 15 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Was there a bunker? There can't be complaints if there wasnt one. He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker. good execution? what are you talking about:D Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that wow so salty + Show Spoiler +haha i can do that crap to
learn to discuss I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it. i only complained about your comment dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp. excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps? Where is the skill in SCV pulls?
Good macro to maximise the amount of units you have. Lining it up with upgrades or unit timings. Correctly deciding what flavour of SCV pull to use (with/without ghosts, 2 starport viking), how much medivac play to perform before pulling, howmany scvs to put at the third before pulling and microing the push itself all takes a certain degree of skill. I'm sure if you put me and Bomber vs the same Protoss and we both did roughly the same SCV pull there'd be a marked difference between us.
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On January 15 2015 20:20 opisska wrote:
Oh god, naked swarmhost in the middle of the map, that's never a good idea ...
It's embarrassing.. 
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On January 15 2015 20:17 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 20:14 The_Templar wrote:2:00 Hatchery first versus nexus first. Leenock scouts the right way with his overlord and goes for a third hatchery before a spawning pool. Gate + double gas for Super. 3:00 Super building a cybernetics core. Spawning pool followed by a gas for Leenock. The gas is at the third base. 4:00 Leenock getting two queens. Mothership core for Super. Super building a stalker and chronoboosting warp gate research. 5:00 Leenock's overlord just barely doesn't see the chronoboost. Zergling speed for Leenock. Two zerglings run towards the natural of Super where two gateways are building. Leenock getting more drones. Roach warren on the way for Leenock. Super getting a forge and still building probes. 7:00  Leenock 51 vs  Super 56 Four stalkers run into the third and attack queens. Leenock getting a bunch of speedlings. Zealots warped in as reinforcement kill the speedlings and Super keeps trying to press the third base. Super has 50 probes. Roaches finish for Leenock. Super recalls. 8:00 Leenock 69 vs Super 74 Third base for Super. Roach speed being researched. Super getting a twilight council and robotics facility. 9:00 Leenock 85 vs Super 86 Zerglings fail to break into the natural of super. Super traps a ton of roaches and kills them relatively easily. Infestation pit for Leenock. Super has about 11 sentries. Blink being researched. Super building immortals. Enduring locusts for Super. 10:00 Leenock 86 vs Super 102 Super fails to trap another group of roaches. Leenock building swarm hosts. Macro hatchery for Leenock.
11:00 Leenock 122 vs Super 131
Super is at his third and Leenock runs a ton of units into the natural and main base.
Leenock recalls to his natural to deal with this.
Leenock taking his fourth base.
Eight swarm hosts have finished, two more building.
13:00 Leenock 126 vs Super 142
Colossi + extended thermal lance being made for Super.
Zerglings going on the hunt, but zealot warp ins prevent any great damage.
Super does retreat, however.
+2 attack starts for Super.
Spire finishing for Leenock.
Swarm hosts get a position near Super's third but Super finds them and destroys them.
17 mutalisks for Leenock.
14:00 Leenock 125 vs Super 162
Spine crawlers being morphed a little late.
Mutalisks attacking the third while Super barrels down his natural.
Stalkers being warped in for reinforcement.
15:00 Leenock 134 vs Super 172
Zerglings also running into the third base.
Photon overcharge is used on the natural expansion of Super.
Leenock taking his fifth base.
Super killing his main.
Mutalisks trying to shut out Super's third base.
Good blink micro from Super.
Leenock GG's!
Super takes the first map!
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I don't wanna be hateful but I love when swarmhosts die
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felt like leenocks build was ok, he probably would have won if he didnt fuck up and lost all hosts for free
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Poll: Recommend Leenock vs Super Game 1?★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8) 89% ★★★- Good game (1) 11% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Leenock vs Super Game 1? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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On January 15 2015 20:20 Big J wrote:
that was a pretty onesided game, holy crap Leenock, get your shit together.
Just 1 mistake honestly.
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That was very sad 
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He has vision of the army next to his swarm host, had time.... wth were they even doing there in the first place with no support, was too early.
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On January 15 2015 20:21 SoulmaN__ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 20:18 opisska wrote:On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote:On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote:
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He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker. good execution? what are you talking about:D Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that wow so salty + Show Spoiler +haha i can do that crap to
learn to discuss I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it. i only complained about your comment dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp. excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps? Where is the skill in SCV pulls? Consideiring how every second SCV pull gets totally botched, it would seem that some skill is indeed required ... I know that, but he obviously doesn't. The skill with SCV pulls, or all ins in general is not letting the opponent know what you are doing. (...) Can I SCV pull without letting the opponent know? Probably not.
Lol. Between that post and your bizarre ideas about Reaper scouting, you should really stop talking about TvP like you know anything about it
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On January 15 2015 20:21 SoulmaN__ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 20:18 opisska wrote:On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote:On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote:
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He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker. good execution? what are you talking about:D Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that wow so salty + Show Spoiler +haha i can do that crap to
learn to discuss I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it. i only complained about your comment dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp. excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps? Where is the skill in SCV pulls? Consideiring how every second SCV pull gets totally botched, it would seem that some skill is indeed required ... I know that, but he obviously doesn't. The skill with SCV pulls, or all ins in general is not letting the opponent know what you are doing. Terminator here hid his all in until he was at fantasys very doorstep. Can you do that, too? No. Can I SCV pull without letting the opponent know? Probably not. So don't talk like that, Terran is highly favored in the matchup anyway.
Seems like I started arguing at the wrong point, I totally agree with you, just I am not good in detecting sarcasm apparently.
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On January 15 2015 20:21 SoulmaN__ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 20:18 opisska wrote:On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote:On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote:
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He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker. good execution? what are you talking about:D Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that wow so salty + Show Spoiler +haha i can do that crap to
learn to discuss I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it. i only complained about your comment dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp. excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps? Where is the skill in SCV pulls? Consideiring how every second SCV pull gets totally botched, it would seem that some skill is indeed required ... I know that, but he obviously doesn't. The skill with SCV pulls, or all ins in general is not letting the opponent know what you are doing. Terminator here hid his all in until he was at fantasys very doorstep. Can you do that, too? No. Can I SCV pull without letting the opponent know? Probably not. So don't talk like that, Terran is highly favored in the matchup anyway.
aligulac says pvt is at ~48% winrate, is that highly favoured for you?
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On January 15 2015 20:23 graNite wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 20:21 SoulmaN__ wrote:On January 15 2015 20:18 opisska wrote:On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote:On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote:On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker. good execution? what are you talking about:D Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that wow so salty + Show Spoiler +haha i can do that crap to
learn to discuss I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it. i only complained about your comment dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp. excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps? Where is the skill in SCV pulls? Consideiring how every second SCV pull gets totally botched, it would seem that some skill is indeed required ... I know that, but he obviously doesn't. The skill with SCV pulls, or all ins in general is not letting the opponent know what you are doing. Terminator here hid his all in until he was at fantasys very doorstep. Can you do that, too? No. Can I SCV pull without letting the opponent know? Probably not. So don't talk like that, Terran is highly favored in the matchup anyway. aligulac says pvt is at ~48% winrate, is that highly favoured for you?
That's the best it's been in like a year
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EPT
Leenock spawns in the top left
Super spawns in the bottom right
