On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that
Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote: On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote: On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote: On January 15 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote: Was there a bunker? There can't be complaints if there wasnt one. He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker. good execution? what are you talking about:D Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that wow so salty + Show Spoiler + haha i can do that crap to learn to discuss | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:10 Heartland wrote: why would anyone change their id from vampire to super? Both terrible IDs | ||
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:06 SoulmaN__ wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2015 20:03 TheDwf wrote: On January 15 2015 20:01 SoulmaN__ wrote: On January 15 2015 20:00 TheDwf wrote: On January 15 2015 20:00 lichter wrote: that's why you don't cc first every game Protoss can do the same against Reaper lol Yeah, but then Terran wins. Or scouts it. Or both. The Reaper scouts Stargate and 3g = nothing unusual. I've already seen Oracle into 3g stalk attacks win against Reaper openings too With the reaper any competent terran will scout around the map, and eventually find SOMETHING, be that the pylon that powered the 2 gates, or the proxy pylons for warp ins. With CC first Fantasy didn't scout at all, kept his marines in the mineral lines and got punished. How are people even arguing about this? I agree it most likely didn't have anything to do with Terminator's perfect reading of Fantasy, however this was really just Fantasy fucking up. scout is not easy with the stalkers. The big point would have been to scout if gaz 3 and 4 were taken but on this map a mere stalker denies any scout... Maybe he should have burn a scan on the natural, like in did on game 2... | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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BEARDiaguz
Australia2362 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:11 DarkLordOlli wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2015 20:10 Heartland wrote: why would anyone change their id from vampire to super? Both terrible IDs MVP Swagger. Never forget. | ||
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Penev
28500 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:10 Heartland wrote: why would anyone change their id from vampire to super? His vampirism got cured? But yeah; Vampire > Super | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24591 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:11 DarkLordOlli wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2015 20:10 Heartland wrote: why would anyone change their id from vampire to super? Both terrible IDs darklordolli was taken so I guess he had to make do with sub-par usernames | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote: On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote: On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote: On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote: On January 15 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote: Was there a bunker? There can't be complaints if there wasnt one. He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker. good execution? what are you talking about:D Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that wow so salty + Show Spoiler + haha i can do that crap to learn to discuss I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it. | ||
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BEARDiaguz
Australia2362 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:11 Gwavajuice wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2015 20:06 SoulmaN__ wrote: On January 15 2015 20:03 TheDwf wrote: On January 15 2015 20:01 SoulmaN__ wrote: On January 15 2015 20:00 TheDwf wrote: On January 15 2015 20:00 lichter wrote: that's why you don't cc first every game Protoss can do the same against Reaper lol Yeah, but then Terran wins. Or scouts it. Or both. The Reaper scouts Stargate and 3g = nothing unusual. I've already seen Oracle into 3g stalk attacks win against Reaper openings too With the reaper any competent terran will scout around the map, and eventually find SOMETHING, be that the pylon that powered the 2 gates, or the proxy pylons for warp ins. With CC first Fantasy didn't scout at all, kept his marines in the mineral lines and got punished. How are people even arguing about this? I agree it most likely didn't have anything to do with Terminator's perfect reading of Fantasy, however this was really just Fantasy fucking up. scout is not easy with the stalkers. The big point would have been to scout if gaz 3 and 4 were taken but on this map a mere stalker denies any scout... Maybe he should have burn a scan on the natural, like in did on game 2... It's worth pointing out that you can get a reaper to attempt to scout their main when going cc first but the loss of 2 marines production can make handling a fast oracle a bit tricky, you can easily not have 6 marines in each mineral line when it shows up and that's a problem. like I said thuogh, it's really as simple as just having a bit more vision out the front of the base which Fantasy could have done if he tried. He just didn't because once you see an Oracle the mind tends not to expect stalker follow ups. | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:12 Heartland wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2015 20:11 DarkLordOlli wrote: On January 15 2015 20:10 Heartland wrote: why would anyone change their id from vampire to super? Both terrible IDs darklordolli was taken so I guess he had to make do with sub-par usernames He kept the theme with vampire. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:10 The_Templar wrote: Leenock spawns in the left Super spawns in the bottom right2:00 Hatchery first versus nexus first. Leenock scouts the right way with his overlord and goes for a third hatchery before a spawning pool. Gate + double gas for Super. 3:00 Super building a cybernetics core. Spawning pool followed by a gas for Leenock. The gas is at the third base. 4:00 Leenock getting two queens. Mothership core for Super. Super building a stalker and chronoboosting warp gate research. 5:00 Leenock's overlord just barely doesn't see the chronoboost. Zergling speed for Leenock. Two zerglings run towards the natural of Super where two gateways are building. Leenock getting more drones. Roach warren on the way for Leenock. Super getting a forge and still building probes. | ||
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Nezgar
Germany535 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:13 RaFox17 wrote: Shots fired at GSL :D And rightfully so! | ||
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote: On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote: On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote: On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote: On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote: On January 15 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote: Was there a bunker? There can't be complaints if there wasnt one. He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker. good execution? what are you talking about:D Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that wow so salty + Show Spoiler + haha i can do that crap to learn to discuss I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it. i only complained about your comment dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp. excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps? | ||
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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SoulmaN__
Germany80 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote: On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote: On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote: On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote: On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote: On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote: On January 15 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote: Was there a bunker? There can't be complaints if there wasnt one. He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker. good execution? what are you talking about:D Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that wow so salty + Show Spoiler + haha i can do that crap to learn to discuss I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it. i only complained about your comment dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp. excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps? Where is the skill in SCV pulls? | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:14 The_Templar wrote: 2:00 Hatchery first versus nexus first. Leenock scouts the right way with his overlord and goes for a third hatchery before a spawning pool. Gate + double gas for Super. 3:00 Super building a cybernetics core. Spawning pool followed by a gas for Leenock. The gas is at the third base. 4:00 Leenock getting two queens. Mothership core for Super. Super building a stalker and chronoboosting warp gate research. 5:00 Leenock's overlord just barely doesn't see the chronoboost. Zergling speed for Leenock. Two zerglings run towards the natural of Super where two gateways are building. Leenock getting more drones. Roach warren on the way for Leenock. Super getting a forge and still building probes. 7:00 Four stalkers run into the third and attack queens. Leenock getting a bunch of speedlings. Zealots warped in as reinforcement kill the speedlings and Super keeps trying to press the third base. Super has 50 probes. Roaches finish for Leenock. Super recalls. 8:00 Third base for Super. Roach speed being researched. Super getting a twilight council and robotics facility. 9:00 Zerglings fail to break into the natural of super. Super traps a ton of roaches and kills them relatively easily. Infestation pit for Leenock. Super has about 11 sentries. Blink being researched. Super building immortals. Enduring locusts for Super. 10:00 Super fails to trap another group of roaches. Leenock building swarm hosts. Macro hatchery for Leenock. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote: On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote: On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote: On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote: On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote: On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote: On January 15 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote: Was there a bunker? There can't be complaints if there wasnt one. He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker. good execution? what are you talking about:D Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that wow so salty + Show Spoiler + haha i can do that crap to learn to discuss I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it. i only complained about your comment dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp. excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps? Pretty sure he did other things as well | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On January 15 2015 20:17 SoulmaN__ wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2015 20:16 graNite wrote: On January 15 2015 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote: On January 15 2015 20:11 graNite wrote: On January 15 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote: On January 15 2015 20:08 graNite wrote: On January 15 2015 20:07 DarkLordOlli wrote: On January 15 2015 20:05 TheDwf wrote: On January 15 2015 20:04 DarkLordOlli wrote: Was there a bunker? There can't be complaints if there wasnt one. He had a Bunker, Terminator cast Time Warp behind so the SCVs could not reach it in time Ah, just good execution by Terminator/lack of scouting I guess. Gotta be frustrating though every gold leaguer can cast a timewarp on a bunker. good execution? what are you talking about:D Yeah yeah yeah keep telling yourself that wow so salty + Show Spoiler + haha i can do that crap to learn to discuss I'm pretty tired of people constantly complaining about protoss. Terrible games like this happen. Terrans beat protoss with lame BO wins all the time too. Stop crying about it. i only complained about your comment dont talk about good execution when all he does is just clicking once for that timewarp. excessive blink or drop micro can be good execution or something like that, but where is the skill in placing timewarps? Where is the skill in SCV pulls? Consideiring how every second SCV pull gets totally botched, it would seem that some skill is indeed required ... | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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