★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
11%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
18 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stats vs soO?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
3%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
35 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Zest vs Billowy?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
45 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Flash vs Dark?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend TY vs INnoVation?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
32%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (6)
24%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
4%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
4%
25 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On January 03 2015 02:44 rotta wrote: This will be tense.
Carno < soO Wooki < Lure Flash > Dark Baby > Bogus Flash > whoever
Flash win two games in one day and Zest lose a game to SKT? Are you drunk? :p
You're right, TY is the better choice for ace.
I don't trust Zest one bit after losing to YongHwa.
It was a pretty unfortunate loss though, he didn't play bad at all, he just got the shorter end of the build order stick, and YongHwa made no real mistakes himself. However, as there is a significant risk that Innovation is an ace, I would sooner send out TY/Flash.
so looks like ive been away from the scene a bit too long... wtf happened to SKT? roster overhaul? and why is everyone saying 3-0 skt? i thought zest was still good?
Strangely enough I've got a feeling KT is going to take that one, even though when I look to the match-ups I'm unsure... Won't make match by match predictions, but I bet on a 3-2 for KT.
On January 04 2015 09:05 FlaShFTW wrote: so looks like ive been away from the scene a bit too long... wtf happened to SKT? roster overhaul? and why is everyone saying 3-0 skt? i thought zest was still good?
PartinG, Rain, and FanTaSy all left. INnoVation and Billowy joined. Zest is good but Billowy all-killed KT last year out of the blue so some people think that he can snipe Zest
On January 04 2015 09:05 FlaShFTW wrote: so looks like ive been away from the scene a bit too long... wtf happened to SKT? roster overhaul? and why is everyone saying 3-0 skt? i thought zest was still good?
Well Rain, Soulkey and Fantasy all left SKT and they aquired INnoVation, Dream and Billowy. Oh and Dark stepped up his game and is playing amazingly well. Why a 3-0? Well SKT has been playing really well and well uh KT in general have been playing like shit with TY looking like their best player imo. And Zest is obv good but he is in a bit of a slump
On January 04 2015 09:05 FlaShFTW wrote: so looks like ive been away from the scene a bit too long... wtf happened to SKT? roster overhaul? and why is everyone saying 3-0 skt? i thought zest was still good?
PartinG, Rain, and FanTaSy all left. INnoVation and Billowy joined. Zest is good but Billowy all-killed KT last year out of the blue so some people think that he can snipe Zest
dude zest lost to yonghwa last week and didn't qualify for ssl or gsl, totally reasonable.
On January 04 2015 09:05 FlaShFTW wrote: so looks like ive been away from the scene a bit too long... wtf happened to SKT? roster overhaul? and why is everyone saying 3-0 skt? i thought zest was still good?
PartinG, Rain, and FanTaSy all left. INnoVation and Billowy joined. Zest is good but Billowy all-killed KT last year out of the blue so some people think that he can snipe Zest
dude zest lost to yonghwa last week and didn't qualify for ssl or gsl, totally reasonable.
He initially lost horribly to an unscouted rush and still turned it into a close game. He also beat Panic (who I think is about as good as Billowy) on the same day.
I won't even try to predict the ace choices after the first few ace matches this season. But I hope for Dark vs. TY. Choosing Billowy to counter the Artosis curse.
On January 05 2015 20:56 SoleSteeler wrote: Poor Crayon Pop... being forced to promote the game. They probably couldn't give two shits about it!
Yes, how terribly unfortunate for them to get an advertising deal that gives them regular appearances on a SPOTV channel.
True enough. The exposure helps, but I'm sure their company takes most if not all of that advertising money. Anyway... I'm just bitter cause I want the games to start!
There are not many players who I immediately think made a mistake when they change their IDs (in fact, it's better most of the time), but c'mon. You gave up Lure?
On January 05 2015 21:03 Circumstance wrote: There are not many players who I immediately think made a mistake when they change their IDs (in fact, it's better most of the time), but c'mon. You gave up Lure?
You're an Acer fan and doesn't think of the travesty that is Bogus -> Innovation?
On January 05 2015 21:04 rotta wrote: So Believe isn't even present? :/
Why bother when you can save on gas by only transporting Ryu Won and the only four players who will ever play at any point between now and the end of time?
On January 05 2015 21:03 Circumstance wrote: There are not many players who I immediately think made a mistake when they change their IDs (in fact, it's better most of the time), but c'mon. You gave up Lure?
You're an Acer fan and doesn't think of the travesty that is Bogus -> Innovation?
The travesty is that people are actually convinced Bogus was better.
No sorry I actually said bullshit! Tomorrow is national holiday but since today is Monday, many companies/shops are just doing a long weekend and will open on Wednesday.
On January 05 2015 21:03 Circumstance wrote: There are not many players who I immediately think made a mistake when they change their IDs (in fact, it's better most of the time), but c'mon. You gave up Lure?
You're an Acer fan and doesn't think of the travesty that is Bogus -> Innovation?
The travesty is that people are actually convinced Bogus was better.
Though I want KT to win somehow. I just don't think they'll turn it good enough yet. May have to wait until Round 2 to see KT put some results, especially in All Kill format.
On January 05 2015 21:09 KingofdaHipHop wrote: it would be so funny if Flash drew zergs for the rest of the round and lost to all of them
Faces Adios at the start of the next round, scouts a 10 pool, builds a 2-layer wall of Bunkers at the top of his main ramp, doesn't have any minerals left to put Marines in them.
On January 05 2015 21:03 Circumstance wrote: There are not many players who I immediately think made a mistake when they change their IDs (in fact, it's better most of the time), but c'mon. You gave up Lure?
You're an Acer fan and doesn't think of the travesty that is Bogus -> Innovation?
The travesty is that people are actually convinced Bogus was better.
Bogus was substantially better.
On a different note, what was Stats' theme? I loved it but I don't think I've ever heard it before.
Stats spawns in the top right soO spawns in the bottom left
2:00 soO opening with a spawning pool first. Nexus first for Stats. soO expands. Gateway, followed by a second pylon and assimilator for Stats.
3:00 6 zerglings for soO. Stats scouts with his probe. Two assimilators for Stats. Cybernetics core begins for Stats. Zerglings make their way across the map. Nexus finishes for Stats. Zealot is being chronoboosted.
4:00 Four probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings until a second zealot finishes. soO mining gas, getting only enough for zergling speed. Drones for soO. Stats looking around with a probe. soO taking his third after Stats scouts a lack of one.
5:00 Sentry for Stats. Mothership core moving out. soO scouting with a zergling.
Stats spawns in the top right soO spawns in the bottom left
2:00 soO opening with a spawning pool first. Nexus first for Stats. soO expands. Gateway, followed by a second pylon and assimilator for Stats.
3:00 6 zerglings for soO. Stats scouts with his probe. Two assimilators for Stats. Cybernetics core begins for Stats. Zerglings make their way across the map. Nexus finishes for Stats. Zealot is being chronoboosted.
4:00 Four probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings until a second zealot finishes. soO mining gas, getting only enough for zergling speed. Drones for soO. Stats looking around with a probe. soO taking his third after Stats scouts a lack of one.
5:00 Sentry for Stats. Mothership core moving out. soO scouting with a zergling.
6:00 Two more gateways for Stats. soO finishing up zergling speed but still not getting to scout. Stats taking gasses #3 and 4 at his natural. Roach warren for soO. soO getting ten more drones. Stats going up to 7 gateways.
7:00 Stats 50 vs soO 64 soO scouting with an overlord. soO getting ten more drones. Evolution chamber for soO. Stats moving across the map. soO gets a scout on the incoming attack. Roaches on the way. Zerglings go for Stats' wall. Three spine crawlers on the way. Roaches finish.
9:00 Stats 77 vs soO 85 An overlord dies and soO is supply blocked. Stats lands good FF's, allowing him to kill some of the roaches. soO over-made overlords. Stats breaks through the third but loses the mothership core. Drones are pulled. soO kills a few sentries.
10:00 Stats 77 vs soO 97 Stats has about 10 senates. The third base of soO falls. Stats still hanging around.
Stats spawns in the top right soO spawns in the bottom left
2:00 soO opening with a spawning pool first. Nexus first for Stats. soO expands. Gateway, followed by a second pylon and assimilator for Stats.
3:00 6 zerglings for soO. Stats scouts with his probe. Two assimilators for Stats. Cybernetics core begins for Stats. Zerglings make their way across the map. Nexus finishes for Stats. Zealot is being chronoboosted.
4:00 Four probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings until a second zealot finishes. soO mining gas, getting only enough for zergling speed. Drones for soO. Stats looking around with a probe. soO taking his third after Stats scouts a lack of one.
5:00 Sentry for Stats. Mothership core moving out. soO scouting with a zergling.
6:00 Two more gateways for Stats. soO finishing up zergling speed but still not getting to scout. Stats taking gasses #3 and 4 at his natural. Roach warren for soO. soO getting ten more drones. Stats going up to 7 gateways.
7:00 Stats 50 vs soO 64 soO scouting with an overlord. soO getting ten more drones. Evolution chamber for soO. Stats moving across the map. soO gets a scout on the incoming attack. Roaches on the way. Zerglings go for Stats' wall. Three spine crawlers on the way. Roaches finish.
9:00 Stats 77 vs soO 85 An overlord dies and soO is supply blocked. Stats lands good FF's, allowing him to kill some of the roaches. soO over-made overlords. Stats breaks through the third but loses the mothership core. Drones are pulled. soO kills a few sentries.
10:00 Stats 77 vs soO 97 Stats has about 10 senates. The third base of soO falls. Stats still hanging around.
11:00 Stats 91 vs soO 99 soO is on 44 drones again 41. Two spines in soO's natural expansion. Lots of soO's roaches are force fielded off. Spines finished but are killed quickly. More drones are pulled from the natural. Stats kites.
12:00 Stats 79 vs soO 73 Stats kills 19 drones and retains some stalkers, backing off to the old third base of soO.
13:00 Stats 87 vs soO 79 soO has 6 queens now. Stats has only two sentries, and mainly only blink less stalkers. Stats adding zealots and two more sentries. soO trying to kill units as efficiently as possible. 3/1/2 zealot/sentry/stalkers being added for Stats. Roach speed about to finish up. soO going for the engagement. There aren't a lot of effective force fields. Roaches are transfused.
15:00 Stats 75 vs soO 75 soO manages to hold. Stats warping a few more sentries and zealots as reinforcements but soO breaks these. Stats is forced to back off. Robotics facility for Stats. soO is on 27 drones against 43 probes.
Stats spawns in the top right soO spawns in the bottom left
2:00 soO opening with a spawning pool first. Nexus first for Stats. soO expands. Gateway, followed by a second pylon and assimilator for Stats.
3:00 6 zerglings for soO. Stats scouts with his probe. Two assimilators for Stats. Cybernetics core begins for Stats. Zerglings make their way across the map. Nexus finishes for Stats. Zealot is being chronoboosted.
4:00 Four probes are pulled to deal with the zerglings until a second zealot finishes. soO mining gas, getting only enough for zergling speed. Drones for soO. Stats looking around with a probe. soO taking his third after Stats scouts a lack of one.
5:00 Sentry for Stats. Mothership core moving out. soO scouting with a zergling.
6:00 Two more gateways for Stats. soO finishing up zergling speed but still not getting to scout. Stats taking gasses #3 and 4 at his natural. Roach warren for soO. soO getting ten more drones. Stats going up to 7 gateways.
7:00 Stats 50 vs soO 64 soO scouting with an overlord. soO getting ten more drones. Evolution chamber for soO. Stats moving across the map. soO gets a scout on the incoming attack. Roaches on the way. Zerglings go for Stats' wall. Three spine crawlers on the way. Roaches finish.
9:00 Stats 77 vs soO 85 An overlord dies and soO is supply blocked. Stats lands good FF's, allowing him to kill some of the roaches. soO over-made overlords. Stats breaks through the third but loses the mothership core. Drones are pulled. soO kills a few sentries.
10:00 Stats 77 vs soO 97 Stats has about 10 senates. The third base of soO falls. Stats still hanging around.
11:00 Stats 91 vs soO 99 soO is on 44 drones again 41. Two spines in soO's natural expansion. Lots of soO's roaches are force fielded off. Spines finished but are killed quickly. More drones are pulled from the natural. Stats kites.
12:00 Stats 79 vs soO 73 Stats kills 19 drones and retains some stalkers, backing off to the old third base of soO.
13:00 Stats 87 vs soO 79 soO has 6 queens now. Stats has only two sentries, and mainly only blink less stalkers. Stats adding zealots and two more sentries. soO trying to kill units as efficiently as possible. 3/1/2 zealot/sentry/stalkers being added for Stats. Roach speed about to finish up. soO going for the engagement. There aren't a lot of effective force fields. Roaches are transfused.
15:00 Stats 75 vs soO 75 soO manages to hold. Stats warping a few more sentries and zealots as reinforcements but soO breaks these. Stats is forced to back off. Robotics facility for Stats. soO is on 27 drones against 43 probes.
16:00 Stats 83 vs soO 82 Forge from Stats. Stats chronoboosting an immortal. soO moving out with his roaches and zerglings. soO retaking his third base. Creep being spread in Stats' potential third base. +1 ranged attacks start from soO.
17:00 Stats 99 vs soO 100 Stats kills the overlord blocking his third as well as a few zerglings. Hydralisk den for soO. Hallucinated phoenix taking a look around, finding soO's army. Stats moving across the map. Stats turning around, chasing soO's army instead.
18:00 Stats 127 vs soO 121 Hydralisks on the way for soO. Stats keeps trying to attack but soO is forcing him to turn around rather frequently. Stats has two immortals now. Time warp goes on a few queens. Hydralisks and queens prove ineffective as soO is blocked out of his natural with force fields and Stats cleans up most of the army.
20:00 Stats 121vs soO 91 soO pulls drones and tries to break Stats' army. Stats focus fires roaches with immortals and crushes soO's army. soO GG's! Stats takes the first game for KT!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
11%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
18 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Stats vs soO?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
And after 5 years of SC2, Blizzard have realized that Zerg is weak in the early game against FFs so they gave Zerg Ravager... You can't even blame shit like this on the map because 1/3 of the maps are like this...
On January 05 2015 21:26 Phredxor wrote: Pulling the girls!
I'm not sure that was a manner move like Wolf said; but rather that his main was basically mined out and there was no reason to pull a few to help close the game out.
On January 05 2015 21:26 Phredxor wrote: Pulling the girls!
I'm not sure that was a manner move like Wolf said; but rather that his main was basically mined out and there was no reason to pull a few to help close the game out.
On January 05 2015 21:25 Penev wrote: Forcefields too good; That's how this story ends
story for me?
queen just not good enough :p
He didn't really transfuse that well either
Right at the start of the Immortal attack, there was one Queen that got stuck in front of the Force Fields, soO transfused that Queen at least 8 times, probably more.
On January 05 2015 21:25 Penev wrote: Forcefields too good; That's how this story ends
story for me?
queen just not good enough :p
He didn't really transfuse that well either
Right at the start of the Immortal attack, there was one Queen that got stuck in front of the Force Fields, soO transfused that Queen at least 8 times, probably more.
On January 05 2015 21:25 Penev wrote: Forcefields too good; That's how this story ends
story for me?
queen just not good enough :p
He didn't really transfuse that well either
Right at the start of the Immortal attack, there was one Queen that got stuck in front of the Force Fields, soO transfused that Queen at least 8 times, probably more.
Yeah, that queen took like 6 volleys from a lot of stalkers.
i watch SPL maybe once every 2 months or something and every time i feel like Wolf has the same co-caster except he calls him a different name. fucking faceless foreigners.
On January 05 2015 21:18 Heartland wrote: I like Wolf's made up term "burst damage"
Haven't you heard? sentries are widely known for their burst damage
I feel the need to defend him here. While Sentries deal pretty much the opposite of burst damage, their ability to force scenarios in which you can focus fire one Roach at a time with 10 sentries and 6 stalkers allows them to use burst damage in cost-effective situations. In other words, their burst damage is one of the worst in the game from a numerical perspective, but they enable burst-fire techniques to be more properly utilized.
On January 05 2015 21:29 Schelim wrote: i watch SPL maybe once every 2 months or something and every time i feel like Wolf has the same co-caster except he calls him a different name. fucking faceless foreigners.
His name is Brendan Valdes. Last season everyone called him Brendan, but now he apparently wants to be known as Valdes. Not sure why.
On January 05 2015 21:29 Schelim wrote: i watch SPL maybe once every 2 months or something and every time i feel like Wolf has the same co-caster except he calls him a different name. fucking faceless foreigners.
His name is Brendan Valdes. Last season everyone called him Brendan, but now he apparently wants to be known as Valdes. Not sure why.
oh, so it IS the same guy. that doesn't really make my joke work anymore. thanks for the info.
Haha, Billowy is doing all the fast APM stuff while Zests screen isnt moving. "uh alright i am building probes... i guess i have some free time till they are done"
On January 05 2015 21:36 BlackCompany wrote: Haha, Billowy is doing all the fast APM stuff while Zests screen isnt moving. "uh alright i am building probes... i guess i have some free time till they are done"
Zest spawns in the bottom left Billowy spawns in the top right
2:00 11 gate for Billowy. 13 gate on the way for Zest. Both players getting two gasses. Zest hiding a pylon in his natural. Cybernetics cores being made, much faster for Billowy.
3:00 Billowy hiding a pylon in the corner of his main base. Zest putting a twilight council in the back of his natural. Stargate on the way for Billowy.
4:00 Both players got a mothership core. Billowy's mothership core is looking around. Dark shrine for Zest.
5:00 Oracle being chronoboosted for Billowy. Robotics facility being added for Zest. Two more gateways for Billowy. One more gateway on the way for Zest. Billowy's oracle is being sent the wrong way.
On January 05 2015 21:36 BlackCompany wrote: Haha, Billowy is doing all the fast APM stuff while Zests screen isnt moving. "uh alright i am building probes... i guess i have some free time till they are done"
Good time to do some bicep curls or something.
Ya he should ask Kepsa if he is allowed to bring something into the booth so he can train
On January 05 2015 21:36 BlackCompany wrote: Haha, Billowy is doing all the fast APM stuff while Zests screen isnt moving. "uh alright i am building probes... i guess i have some free time till they are done"
Good time to do some bicep curls or something.
Ya he should ask Kepsa if he is allowed to bring something into the booth so he can train
he should do situps, on every 2 click the mouse to build a probe
Zest spawns in the bottom left Billowy spawns in the top right
2:00 11 gate for Billowy. 13 gate on the way for Zest. Both players getting two gasses. Zest hiding a pylon in his natural. Cybernetics cores being made, much faster for Billowy.
3:00 Billowy hiding a pylon in the corner of his main base. Zest putting a twilight council in the back of his natural. Stargate on the way for Billowy.
4:00 Both players got a mothership core. Billowy's mothership core is looking around. Dark shrine for Zest.
5:00 Oracle being chronoboosted for Billowy. Robotics facility being added for Zest. Two more gateways for Billowy. One more gateway on the way for Zest. Billowy's oracle is being sent the wrong way.
6:00 Twilight council for Billowy. Billowy getting a second oracle and rallying it to his main. Expansion for Zest. DT going to Billowy's main base. Immortal for Zest.
7:00 Zest 36 vs Billowy 41 The oracle uses envision to catch the DT, but it slips away. Blink being chronoboosted for Billowy. Billowy's first oracle kills a probe. Billowy starts his expansion as Zest's finishes. Zest getting blink. Zest making probes.
8:00 Zest 45 vs Billowy 47 Billowy kills a second probe with his oracle. Observer for Zest. Forge for billowy. Zest is four workers behind. Oracle fails to get another probe, takes some damage. Billowy getting a cannon in his main base.
9:00 Zest 58 vs Billowy 56 Zest trying to catch up in probes with chronoboosts. Forge for Zest. +1 attack starts for Billowy.
10:00 Zest 62 vs Billowy 64 Immortal starts for Billowy. Billowy gets into Zest's main with two oracles and kills 6 probes, and both survive. Billowy hasn't lost any units yet. Templar archives for Billowy. Zest getting +1 attack.
Zest spawns in the bottom left Billowy spawns in the top right
2:00 11 gate for Billowy. 13 gate on the way for Zest. Both players getting two gasses. Zest hiding a pylon in his natural. Cybernetics cores being made, much faster for Billowy.
3:00 Billowy hiding a pylon in the corner of his main base. Zest putting a twilight council in the back of his natural. Stargate on the way for Billowy.
4:00 Both players got a mothership core. Billowy's mothership core is looking around. Dark shrine for Zest.
5:00 Oracle being chronoboosted for Billowy. Robotics facility being added for Zest. Two more gateways for Billowy. One more gateway on the way for Zest. Billowy's oracle is being sent the wrong way.
6:00 Twilight council for Billowy. Billowy getting a second oracle and rallying it to his main. Expansion for Zest. DT going to Billowy's main base. Immortal for Zest.
7:00 Zest 36 vs Billowy 41 The oracle uses envision to catch the DT, but it slips away. Blink being chronoboosted for Billowy. Billowy's first oracle kills a probe. Billowy starts his expansion as Zest's finishes. Zest getting blink. Zest making probes.
8:00 Zest 45 vs Billowy 47 Billowy kills a second probe with his oracle. Observer for Zest. Forge for billowy. Zest is four workers behind. Oracle fails to get another probe, takes some damage. Billowy getting a cannon in his main base.
9:00 Zest 58 vs Billowy 56 Zest trying to catch up in probes with chronoboosts. Forge for Zest. +1 attack starts for Billowy.
10:00 Zest 62 vs Billowy 64 Immortal starts for Billowy. Billowy gets into Zest's main with two oracles and kills 6 probes, and both survive. Billowy hasn't lost any units yet. Templar archives for Billowy. Zest getting +1 attack.
11:00 Zest 73 vs Billowy 76 Four more gateways for Billowy. Zest getting a robotics bay. Oracles from Billowy are looking around the map. +1 attack finishes for Billowy. Zest scouting with a stalker, finding a probe that Billowy was going to do something with and killing it. Billowy getting +2 attack.
12:00 Zest 79 vs Billowy 85 Four more gateways for Zest. Zest getting colossi. Billowy taking a third and moving out. Archon being morphed for Billowy. Hallucinated phoenix for Zest sees Billowy's army. Billowly loses both of his oracles to kill three probes.
13:00 Zest 90 vs Billowy 104 Zest moves out with four stalkers, loses two and regroups with his smaller army. Billowy has three immortals and some archons and time warps Zest's army.
14:00 Zest 104 vs Billowy 120 Zest getting a templar archives. Third colossus starts. Extended thermal lance finishes. Zest trying to kill archons with his stalkers, and nearly snipes the mothership core. Zest is on just 45 probes on 2 bases against 60 and three bases. Zest snipes the mothership core. Billowy attacking Zest's army. Some of Billowy's army was lagging behind and Zest gets the engagement he desires, sniping a reinforcement warp prism.
Zest spawns in the bottom left Billowy spawns in the top right
2:00 11 gate for Billowy. 13 gate on the way for Zest. Both players getting two gasses. Zest hiding a pylon in his natural. Cybernetics cores being made, much faster for Billowy.
3:00 Billowy hiding a pylon in the corner of his main base. Zest putting a twilight council in the back of his natural. Stargate on the way for Billowy.
4:00 Both players got a mothership core. Billowy's mothership core is looking around. Dark shrine for Zest.
5:00 Oracle being chronoboosted for Billowy. Robotics facility being added for Zest. Two more gateways for Billowy. One more gateway on the way for Zest. Billowy's oracle is being sent the wrong way.
6:00 Twilight council for Billowy. Billowy getting a second oracle and rallying it to his main. Expansion for Zest. DT going to Billowy's main base. Immortal for Zest.
7:00 Zest 36 vs Billowy 41 The oracle uses envision to catch the DT, but it slips away. Blink being chronoboosted for Billowy. Billowy's first oracle kills a probe. Billowy starts his expansion as Zest's finishes. Zest getting blink. Zest making probes.
8:00 Zest 45 vs Billowy 47 Billowy kills a second probe with his oracle. Observer for Zest. Forge for billowy. Zest is four workers behind. Oracle fails to get another probe, takes some damage. Billowy getting a cannon in his main base.
9:00 Zest 58 vs Billowy 56 Zest trying to catch up in probes with chronoboosts. Forge for Zest. +1 attack starts for Billowy.
10:00 Zest 62 vs Billowy 64 Immortal starts for Billowy. Billowy gets into Zest's main with two oracles and kills 6 probes, and both survive. Billowy hasn't lost any units yet. Templar archives for Billowy. Zest getting +1 attack.
11:00 Zest 73 vs Billowy 76 Four more gateways for Billowy. Zest getting a robotics bay. Oracles from Billowy are looking around the map. +1 attack finishes for Billowy. Zest scouting with a stalker, finding a probe that Billowy was going to do something with and killing it. Billowy getting +2 attack.
12:00 Zest 79 vs Billowy 85 Four more gateways for Zest. Zest getting colossi. Billowy taking a third and moving out. Archon being morphed for Billowy. Hallucinated phoenix for Zest sees Billowy's army. Billowly loses both of his oracles to kill three probes.
13:00 Zest 90 vs Billowy 104 Zest moves out with four stalkers, loses two and regroups with his smaller army. Billowy has three immortals and some archons and time warps Zest's army.
14:00 Zest 104 vs Billowy 120 Zest getting a templar archives. Third colossus starts. Extended thermal lance finishes. Zest trying to kill archons with his stalkers, and nearly snipes the mothership core. Zest is on just 45 probes on 2 bases against 60 and three bases. Zest snipes the mothership core. Billowy attacking Zest's army. Some of Billowy's army was lagging behind and Zest gets the engagement he desires, sniping a reinforcement warp prism.
17:00 Zest 115 vs Billowy 117 Zest kills quite a lot of units at low cost and starts moving out. Billowy is on full retreat. An immortal and some stalkers are picked off. Zest gets to the third base of Billowy and sits there for a moment. Billowy sending some zealots to Zest's natural but changes his mind and turns back. The third of billowy has denied mining.
18:00 Zest 140 vs Billowy 140 Zest kills the third base. Billowy immediately pulls his probes and foes for the engagement. Zest uses his warp prism to pick up colossi, barely keeping two of them, and goes into the natural expansion. More probes die for Billowy, evening up the worker count at last. Billowy pulls more probes and tries to hold on but Zest breaks him and Billowy GG's! KT takes a 2-0 lead!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
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★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
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Your vote: Recommend Zest vs Billowy?
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On January 05 2015 21:48 DarkLordOlli wrote: Amazing, amazing stuff from Zest. Billowy made one mistake and Zest ripped him in half for it. Great game.
Yeah, that was a really nice game. I thought Zest was done for sure.
that beautiful engagements made up for billowy losing the match. superb play, forced billowy into making stupid mistakes and had the better grasp of what was going on in the end.
On January 05 2015 21:48 DarkLordOlli wrote: Amazing, amazing stuff from Zest. Billowy made one mistake and Zest ripped him in half for it. Great game.
Yeah, that was a really nice game. I thought Zest was done for sure.
in that kind of situation colossus advantage is huge, a lot of protoss would have rushed but the patience from zest was outstanding
Billowy played that really well too, if only he wouldn't have split up his army. He got a bit too cheeky there, he was soo close to bringing it back anyway too. Really though Billowy would get out ahead in that last big battle after the nexus fell.
On January 05 2015 21:52 Shuffleblade wrote: Wow what a game!
Billowy played that really well too, if only he wouldn't have split up his army. He got a bit too cheeky there, he was soo close to bringing it back anyway too. Really though Billowy would get out ahead in that last big battle after the nexus fell.
a frontal fight would have been suicide, he wanted to take down the colossus from behind like he tried when zest pushed the b3
i think that billowy did right given the situation, just that zest army's control is too good
Flash spawns in the bottom right Dark spawns in the top left
2:00 CC first vs 15 pool 15 hatchery. Barracks for Flash.
3:00 Flash scouting with an SCV. Dark getting zerglings. Extractor for Flash. Flash loses his scouting SCV to the zerglings. Bunker for Flash at his natural. CC finishes for flash.
4:00 Flash walls his marine with three SCVs until the bunker finishes. MULEs land in Flash's main. Flash getting a third CC.
5:00 Flash getting two refineries. Zergling speed starts for Dark, some additional gas is being mined with one drone. Two overlords for Dark, who is nearly supply blocked. Flash getting marines. Dark getting drones. Zerglings killing the backdoor rocks for Dark.
Flash spawns in the bottom right Dark spawns in the top left
2:00 CC first vs 15 pool 15 hatchery. Barracks for Flash.
3:00 Flash scouting with an SCV. Dark getting zerglings. Extractor for Flash. Flash loses his scouting SCV to the zerglings. Bunker for Flash at his natural. CC finishes for flash.
4:00 Flash walls his marine with three SCVs until the bunker finishes. MULEs land in Flash's main. Flash getting a third CC.
5:00 Flash getting two refineries. Zergling speed starts for Dark, some additional gas is being mined with one drone. Two overlords for Dark, who is nearly supply blocked. Flash getting marines. Dark getting drones. Zerglings killing the backdoor rocks for Dark.
6:00 Factory for Flash. Dark taking a third base. Dark is still mining gas with one drone. Roach warren for Dark. Flash scouts the third base of Dark. Second factory for Flash.
7:00 Flash 37 vs Dark 46 Zerglings continue to kill the back door to Dark's natural. Two engineering bays for Flash. Roach warren finishes, 6 roaches for Dark. +1/1 starts for Flash. Zerglings and roaches being made. Flash has half a wall. Lair for Dark. Evolution chamber starts for Dark. Flash scans the roaches leaving Dark's natural.
8:00 Flash 70 vs Dark 78 Flash nearly finishes his wall. Dark pressuring with roaches. Flash pulls 8 SCVs to defend before getting a tank out. Stim for Flash. Tank positions itself in siege mode on the high ground. Armory for Flash.
9:00 Flash 80 vs Dark 91 +1/1 melee starts for Dark. Flash immediately saturates his third bas.e Four more barracks for Flash. Flash getting two tanks! Baneling speed for Dark. Spire begins for Dark. Dark taking his fourth base and getting a macro hatchery.
10:00 Flash 97 vs Dark 103 +2/2 starts for Flash. Four banelings move towards Flash's third base and kill two SCVs. Starport finishes for Flash. Infestation pit for Dark. Fourth CC starts for Flash.
Flash spawns in the bottom right Dark spawns in the top left
2:00 CC first vs 15 pool 15 hatchery. Barracks for Flash.
3:00 Flash scouting with an SCV. Dark getting zerglings. Extractor for Flash. Flash loses his scouting SCV to the zerglings. Bunker for Flash at his natural. CC finishes for flash.
4:00 Flash walls his marine with three SCVs until the bunker finishes. MULEs land in Flash's main. Flash getting a third CC.
5:00 Flash getting two refineries. Zergling speed starts for Dark, some additional gas is being mined with one drone. Two overlords for Dark, who is nearly supply blocked. Flash getting marines. Dark getting drones. Zerglings killing the backdoor rocks for Dark.
6:00 Factory for Flash. Dark taking a third base. Dark is still mining gas with one drone. Roach warren for Dark. Flash scouts the third base of Dark. Second factory for Flash.
7:00 Flash 37 vs Dark 46 Zerglings continue to kill the back door to Dark's natural. Two engineering bays for Flash. Roach warren finishes, 6 roaches for Dark. +1/1 starts for Flash. Zerglings and roaches being made. Flash has half a wall. Lair for Dark. Evolution chamber starts for Dark. Flash scans the roaches leaving Dark's natural.
8:00 Flash 70 vs Dark 78 Flash nearly finishes his wall. Dark pressuring with roaches. Flash pulls 8 SCVs to defend before getting a tank out. Stim for Flash. Tank positions itself in siege mode on the high ground. Armory for Flash.
9:00 Flash 80 vs Dark 91 +1/1 melee starts for Dark. Flash immediately saturates his third bas.e Four more barracks for Flash. Flash getting two tanks! Baneling speed for Dark. Spire begins for Dark. Dark taking his fourth base and getting a macro hatchery.
10:00 Flash 97 vs Dark 103 +2/2 starts for Flash. Four banelings move towards Flash's third base and kill two SCVs. Starport finishes for Flash. Infestation pit for Dark. Fourth CC starts for Flash.
11:00 Flash 118 vs Dark 118 Enduring locusts? and mutalisks begin for Dark. Flash getting +1 mech weapons. Flash has six tanks and some hellions and marines. Medivacs on the way. Mutalisks go towards Flash's natural where there are two turrets. Combat shields begins for Flash. Mutalisks do nothing at Flash's natural.
13:00 Flash 148 vs Dark 163 Swarm hosts for Dark. Flash getting a turret in his main, which is denied by mutalisks. The five mutalisks nearly kill combat shields but fail to do so. Flash has secured his fourth base. Hive for Dark. +2/2 starts for Dark. Locusts go towards the fourth base of Flash.
14:00 Flash 185 vs Dark 186 Flash kills the rocks leading into his fourth base after killing the rock tower. Dark has some banelings and tries to engage but Flash splits and ends up getting som for free. Dark tries engaging again but again kills little.
15:00 Flash 200 vs Dark 194 Flash retreats but gets caught behind his natural and loses a fair amount. Flash dropping the fourth. Fifth base for Dark finishes. Flash mass drops the fifth but it's denied by a lot of banelings. Flash trying to move from the fourth to the main base but that's denied by zerglings.
Flash spawns in the bottom right Dark spawns in the top left
2:00 CC first vs 15 pool 15 hatchery. Barracks for Flash.
3:00 Flash scouting with an SCV. Dark getting zerglings. Extractor for Flash. Flash loses his scouting SCV to the zerglings. Bunker for Flash at his natural. CC finishes for flash.
4:00 Flash walls his marine with three SCVs until the bunker finishes. MULEs land in Flash's main. Flash getting a third CC.
5:00 Flash getting two refineries. Zergling speed starts for Dark, some additional gas is being mined with one drone. Two overlords for Dark, who is nearly supply blocked. Flash getting marines. Dark getting drones. Zerglings killing the backdoor rocks for Dark.
6:00 Factory for Flash. Dark taking a third base. Dark is still mining gas with one drone. Roach warren for Dark. Flash scouts the third base of Dark. Second factory for Flash.
7:00 Flash 37 vs Dark 46 Zerglings continue to kill the back door to Dark's natural. Two engineering bays for Flash. Roach warren finishes, 6 roaches for Dark. +1/1 starts for Flash. Zerglings and roaches being made. Flash has half a wall. Lair for Dark. Evolution chamber starts for Dark. Flash scans the roaches leaving Dark's natural.
8:00 Flash 70 vs Dark 78 Flash nearly finishes his wall. Dark pressuring with roaches. Flash pulls 8 SCVs to defend before getting a tank out. Stim for Flash. Tank positions itself in siege mode on the high ground. Armory for Flash.
9:00 Flash 80 vs Dark 91 +1/1 melee starts for Dark. Flash immediately saturates his third bas.e Four more barracks for Flash. Flash getting two tanks! Baneling speed for Dark. Spire begins for Dark. Dark taking his fourth base and getting a macro hatchery.
10:00 Flash 97 vs Dark 103 +2/2 starts for Flash. Four banelings move towards Flash's third base and kill two SCVs. Starport finishes for Flash. Infestation pit for Dark. Fourth CC starts for Flash.
11:00 Flash 118 vs Dark 118 Enduring locusts? and mutalisks begin for Dark. Flash getting +1 mech weapons. Flash has six tanks and some hellions and marines. Medivacs on the way. Mutalisks go towards Flash's natural where there are two turrets. Combat shields begins for Flash. Mutalisks do nothing at Flash's natural.
13:00 Flash 148 vs Dark 163 Swarm hosts for Dark. Flash getting a turret in his main, which is denied by mutalisks. The five mutalisks nearly kill combat shields but fail to do so. Flash has secured his fourth base. Hive for Dark. +2/2 starts for Dark. Locusts go towards the fourth base of Flash.
14:00 Flash 185 vs Dark 186 Flash kills the rocks leading into his fourth base after killing the rock tower. Dark has some banelings and tries to engage but Flash splits and ends up getting som for free. Dark tries engaging again but again kills little.
15:00 Flash 200 vs Dark 194 Flash retreats but gets caught behind his natural and loses a fair amount. Flash dropping the fourth. Fifth base for Dark finishes. Flash mass drops the fifth but it's denied by a lot of banelings. Flash trying to move from the fourth to the main base but that's denied by zerglings.
17:00 Flash 180 vs Dark 191 Dark has corrupters out. Both harass forces for Flash are shut down. Flash seiging the fifth base from above while moving towards the fourth base. Ravens for Flash. Flash getting +2 vehicle weapons. Dark saves his fourth base. Locusts and corrupters clean up the forces at his fifth but Flash has dropped above his fourth base.
18:00 Flash 194 vs Dark 186 Dark has an ultralisk now and crushes Flash's harass when he tries to drop the main. Flash harasses the fifth base. Flash moves up to the center base and is pushed back. Flash is still on four bases. More ravens being added on for Flash, bringing him from 2 to 5.
20:00 Flash 200 (300/250) vs Dark 198 (4000/1600) Flash has lots of tanks and tries to take the center. Dark crashes into Flash's army with banelings, ultralisks, and corrupters but gets relatively crushed. Flash snipes the 6th base and backs off. Flash taking his fifth base. +3 mech attack starting for Flash. More ultralisks and banelings for Dark. Dark loses three swarm hosts to bio. Corrupters try to kill ravens but fail to do so.
Flash spawns in the bottom right Dark spawns in the top left
2:00 CC first vs 15 pool 15 hatchery. Barracks for Flash.
3:00 Flash scouting with an SCV. Dark getting zerglings. Extractor for Flash. Flash loses his scouting SCV to the zerglings. Bunker for Flash at his natural. CC finishes for flash.
4:00 Flash walls his marine with three SCVs until the bunker finishes. MULEs land in Flash's main. Flash getting a third CC.
5:00 Flash getting two refineries. Zergling speed starts for Dark, some additional gas is being mined with one drone. Two overlords for Dark, who is nearly supply blocked. Flash getting marines. Dark getting drones. Zerglings killing the backdoor rocks for Dark.
6:00 Factory for Flash. Dark taking a third base. Dark is still mining gas with one drone. Roach warren for Dark. Flash scouts the third base of Dark. Second factory for Flash.
7:00 Flash 37 vs Dark 46 Zerglings continue to kill the back door to Dark's natural. Two engineering bays for Flash. Roach warren finishes, 6 roaches for Dark. +1/1 starts for Flash. Zerglings and roaches being made. Flash has half a wall. Lair for Dark. Evolution chamber starts for Dark. Flash scans the roaches leaving Dark's natural.
8:00 Flash 70 vs Dark 78 Flash nearly finishes his wall. Dark pressuring with roaches. Flash pulls 8 SCVs to defend before getting a tank out. Stim for Flash. Tank positions itself in siege mode on the high ground. Armory for Flash.
9:00 Flash 80 vs Dark 91 +1/1 melee starts for Dark. Flash immediately saturates his third bas.e Four more barracks for Flash. Flash getting two tanks! Baneling speed for Dark. Spire begins for Dark. Dark taking his fourth base and getting a macro hatchery.
10:00 Flash 97 vs Dark 103 +2/2 starts for Flash. Four banelings move towards Flash's third base and kill two SCVs. Starport finishes for Flash. Infestation pit for Dark. Fourth CC starts for Flash.
11:00 Flash 118 vs Dark 118 Enduring locusts? and mutalisks begin for Dark. Flash getting +1 mech weapons. Flash has six tanks and some hellions and marines. Medivacs on the way. Mutalisks go towards Flash's natural where there are two turrets. Combat shields begins for Flash. Mutalisks do nothing at Flash's natural.
13:00 Flash 148 vs Dark 163 Swarm hosts for Dark. Flash getting a turret in his main, which is denied by mutalisks. The five mutalisks nearly kill combat shields but fail to do so. Flash has secured his fourth base. Hive for Dark. +2/2 starts for Dark. Locusts go towards the fourth base of Flash.
14:00 Flash 185 vs Dark 186 Flash kills the rocks leading into his fourth base after killing the rock tower. Dark has some banelings and tries to engage but Flash splits and ends up getting som for free. Dark tries engaging again but again kills little.
15:00 Flash 200 vs Dark 194 Flash retreats but gets caught behind his natural and loses a fair amount. Flash dropping the fourth. Fifth base for Dark finishes. Flash mass drops the fifth but it's denied by a lot of banelings. Flash trying to move from the fourth to the main base but that's denied by zerglings.
17:00 Flash 180 vs Dark 191 Dark has corrupters out. Both harass forces for Flash are shut down. Flash seiging the fifth base from above while moving towards the fourth base. Ravens for Flash. Flash getting +2 vehicle weapons. Dark saves his fourth base. Locusts and corrupters clean up the forces at his fifth but Flash has dropped above his fourth base.
18:00 Flash 194 vs Dark 186 Dark has an ultralisk now and crushes Flash's harass when he tries to drop the main. Flash harasses the fifth base. Flash moves up to the center base and is pushed back. Flash is still on four bases. More ravens being added on for Flash, bringing him from 2 to 5.
20:00 Flash 200 (300/250) vs Dark 198 (4000/1600) Flash has lots of tanks and tries to take the center. Dark crashes into Flash's army with banelings, ultralisks, and corrupters but gets relatively crushed. Flash snipes the 6th base and backs off. Flash taking his fifth base. +3 mech attack starting for Flash. More ultralisks and banelings for Dark. Dark loses three swarm hosts to bio. Corrupters try to kill ravens but fail to do so.
22:00 Flash 178 vs Dark 198 Dark has 3000/2300 bank. Flash kills the top right base of Dark. Dark goes after the fifth and third bases of Flash with ultralisks, banelings, and zerglings. Flash doesn't really have much of an answer to this.
23:00 Flash 146 vs Dark 198 Flash holds, but only barely, losing 22 workers. More banelings for Dark. Dark getting burrow. Ultralisks and banelings find undefended tanks at Flash's fourth but Flash barely holds the position with air. Dark adding ultralisks. Changelings prevent the fifth of Flash from re-landing.
24:00 Flash 171 vs Dark 199 (3000/3000) Dark attacks Flash's third base with utrlaisks and bane/ling again but doesn't kill a lot. Dark taking Flash's backdoor base. Second spire being added. Fungals land on most of Flash's banshees and they mostly die. Corrupters are almost entirely killed by vikings, but Dark is adding 20 mutalisks.
Flash spawns in the bottom right Dark spawns in the top left
2:00 CC first vs 15 pool 15 hatchery. Barracks for Flash.
3:00 Flash scouting with an SCV. Dark getting zerglings. Extractor for Flash. Flash loses his scouting SCV to the zerglings. Bunker for Flash at his natural. CC finishes for flash.
4:00 Flash walls his marine with three SCVs until the bunker finishes. MULEs land in Flash's main. Flash getting a third CC.
5:00 Flash getting two refineries. Zergling speed starts for Dark, some additional gas is being mined with one drone. Two overlords for Dark, who is nearly supply blocked. Flash getting marines. Dark getting drones. Zerglings killing the backdoor rocks for Dark.
6:00 Factory for Flash. Dark taking a third base. Dark is still mining gas with one drone. Roach warren for Dark. Flash scouts the third base of Dark. Second factory for Flash.
7:00 Flash 37 vs Dark 46 Zerglings continue to kill the back door to Dark's natural. Two engineering bays for Flash. Roach warren finishes, 6 roaches for Dark. +1/1 starts for Flash. Zerglings and roaches being made. Flash has half a wall. Lair for Dark. Evolution chamber starts for Dark. Flash scans the roaches leaving Dark's natural.
8:00 Flash 70 vs Dark 78 Flash nearly finishes his wall. Dark pressuring with roaches. Flash pulls 8 SCVs to defend before getting a tank out. Stim for Flash. Tank positions itself in siege mode on the high ground. Armory for Flash.
9:00 Flash 80 vs Dark 91 +1/1 melee starts for Dark. Flash immediately saturates his third bas.e Four more barracks for Flash. Flash getting two tanks! Baneling speed for Dark. Spire begins for Dark. Dark taking his fourth base and getting a macro hatchery.
10:00 Flash 97 vs Dark 103 +2/2 starts for Flash. Four banelings move towards Flash's third base and kill two SCVs. Starport finishes for Flash. Infestation pit for Dark. Fourth CC starts for Flash.
11:00 Flash 118 vs Dark 118 Enduring locusts? and mutalisks begin for Dark. Flash getting +1 mech weapons. Flash has six tanks and some hellions and marines. Medivacs on the way. Mutalisks go towards Flash's natural where there are two turrets. Combat shields begins for Flash. Mutalisks do nothing at Flash's natural.
13:00 Flash 148 vs Dark 163 Swarm hosts for Dark. Flash getting a turret in his main, which is denied by mutalisks. The five mutalisks nearly kill combat shields but fail to do so. Flash has secured his fourth base. Hive for Dark. +2/2 starts for Dark. Locusts go towards the fourth base of Flash.
14:00 Flash 185 vs Dark 186 Flash kills the rocks leading into his fourth base after killing the rock tower. Dark has some banelings and tries to engage but Flash splits and ends up getting som for free. Dark tries engaging again but again kills little.
15:00 Flash 200 vs Dark 194 Flash retreats but gets caught behind his natural and loses a fair amount. Flash dropping the fourth. Fifth base for Dark finishes. Flash mass drops the fifth but it's denied by a lot of banelings. Flash trying to move from the fourth to the main base but that's denied by zerglings.
17:00 Flash 180 vs Dark 191 Dark has corrupters out. Both harass forces for Flash are shut down. Flash seiging the fifth base from above while moving towards the fourth base. Ravens for Flash. Flash getting +2 vehicle weapons. Dark saves his fourth base. Locusts and corrupters clean up the forces at his fifth but Flash has dropped above his fourth base.
18:00 Flash 194 vs Dark 186 Dark has an ultralisk now and crushes Flash's harass when he tries to drop the main. Flash harasses the fifth base. Flash moves up to the center base and is pushed back. Flash is still on four bases. More ravens being added on for Flash, bringing him from 2 to 5.
20:00 Flash 200 (300/250) vs Dark 198 (4000/1600) Flash has lots of tanks and tries to take the center. Dark crashes into Flash's army with banelings, ultralisks, and corrupters but gets relatively crushed. Flash snipes the 6th base and backs off. Flash taking his fifth base. +3 mech attack starting for Flash. More ultralisks and banelings for Dark. Dark loses three swarm hosts to bio. Corrupters try to kill ravens but fail to do so.
22:00 Flash 178 vs Dark 198 Dark has 3000/2300 bank. Flash kills the top right base of Dark. Dark goes after the fifth and third bases of Flash with ultralisks, banelings, and zerglings. Flash doesn't really have much of an answer to this.
23:00 Flash 146 vs Dark 198 Flash holds, but only barely, losing 22 workers. More banelings for Dark. Dark getting burrow. Ultralisks and banelings find undefended tanks at Flash's fourth but Flash barely holds the position with air. Dark adding ultralisks. Changelings prevent the fifth of Flash from re-landing.
24:00 Flash 171 vs Dark 199 (3000/3000) Dark attacks Flash's third base with utrlaisks and bane/ling again but doesn't kill a lot. Dark taking Flash's backdoor base. Second spire being added. Fungals land on most of Flash's banshees and they mostly die. Corrupters are almost entirely killed by vikings, but Dark is adding 20 mutalisks.
26:00 Flash 183 vs Dark 200 (1600/1600) Flash has about 12 +3 vikings against +2 mutalisks. Dark has 7 bases against Flash's 5. A drop is found and killed by mutalisks. Flash adds a turret to his fourth. Mutalisks kill both turrets and a third building in Flash's natural. Another turret from Flash is cancelled in the main. Mutalisks get on top of production in Flash's main. Ultralisks go after the backdoor of Flash. +1 air armor starts for Dark. Banelings moving towards Flash's natural. Vikings catch up with the mutalisks. BAnelings trying to find something to kill. Mutalisks kill stuff in Flash's fifth base. Flash has 0 minerals.
29:00 Flash 171 vs Dark 200 Banshees trying to clean up in Flash's main. More banelings being morphed for Dark 2 ultralisks, 40 lings, 20 banelings in production. Flash trying to regroup with his tanks, marines, and marauders but loses a lot doing so, mainly tank. Banelings crash into Flash's unsplit army. Marauders flee in terror. Flash is down to 19 workers. Flash has some vikings and banshees. The fourth of Flash falls. 11 infestors for Dark.
Easily best game of the season thus far. Probably one of the only games I've seen where I'd give it 5/5. They both played so smart. Dark best player ever.
Flash spawns in the bottom right Dark spawns in the top left
2:00 CC first vs 15 pool 15 hatchery. Barracks for Flash.
3:00 Flash scouting with an SCV. Dark getting zerglings. Extractor for Flash. Flash loses his scouting SCV to the zerglings. Bunker for Flash at his natural. CC finishes for flash.
4:00 Flash walls his marine with three SCVs until the bunker finishes. MULEs land in Flash's main. Flash getting a third CC.
5:00 Flash getting two refineries. Zergling speed starts for Dark, some additional gas is being mined with one drone. Two overlords for Dark, who is nearly supply blocked. Flash getting marines. Dark getting drones. Zerglings killing the backdoor rocks for Dark.
6:00 Factory for Flash. Dark taking a third base. Dark is still mining gas with one drone. Roach warren for Dark. Flash scouts the third base of Dark. Second factory for Flash.
7:00 Flash 37 vs Dark 46 Zerglings continue to kill the back door to Dark's natural. Two engineering bays for Flash. Roach warren finishes, 6 roaches for Dark. +1/1 starts for Flash. Zerglings and roaches being made. Flash has half a wall. Lair for Dark. Evolution chamber starts for Dark. Flash scans the roaches leaving Dark's natural.
8:00 Flash 70 vs Dark 78 Flash nearly finishes his wall. Dark pressuring with roaches. Flash pulls 8 SCVs to defend before getting a tank out. Stim for Flash. Tank positions itself in siege mode on the high ground. Armory for Flash.
9:00 Flash 80 vs Dark 91 +1/1 melee starts for Dark. Flash immediately saturates his third bas.e Four more barracks for Flash. Flash getting two tanks! Baneling speed for Dark. Spire begins for Dark. Dark taking his fourth base and getting a macro hatchery.
10:00 Flash 97 vs Dark 103 +2/2 starts for Flash. Four banelings move towards Flash's third base and kill two SCVs. Starport finishes for Flash. Infestation pit for Dark. Fourth CC starts for Flash.
11:00 Flash 118 vs Dark 118 Enduring locusts? and mutalisks begin for Dark. Flash getting +1 mech weapons. Flash has six tanks and some hellions and marines. Medivacs on the way. Mutalisks go towards Flash's natural where there are two turrets. Combat shields begins for Flash. Mutalisks do nothing at Flash's natural.
13:00 Flash 148 vs Dark 163 Swarm hosts for Dark. Flash getting a turret in his main, which is denied by mutalisks. The five mutalisks nearly kill combat shields but fail to do so. Flash has secured his fourth base. Hive for Dark. +2/2 starts for Dark. Locusts go towards the fourth base of Flash.
14:00 Flash 185 vs Dark 186 Flash kills the rocks leading into his fourth base after killing the rock tower. Dark has some banelings and tries to engage but Flash splits and ends up getting som for free. Dark tries engaging again but again kills little.
15:00 Flash 200 vs Dark 194 Flash retreats but gets caught behind his natural and loses a fair amount. Flash dropping the fourth. Fifth base for Dark finishes. Flash mass drops the fifth but it's denied by a lot of banelings. Flash trying to move from the fourth to the main base but that's denied by zerglings.
17:00 Flash 180 vs Dark 191 Dark has corrupters out. Both harass forces for Flash are shut down. Flash seiging the fifth base from above while moving towards the fourth base. Ravens for Flash. Flash getting +2 vehicle weapons. Dark saves his fourth base. Locusts and corrupters clean up the forces at his fifth but Flash has dropped above his fourth base.
18:00 Flash 194 vs Dark 186 Dark has an ultralisk now and crushes Flash's harass when he tries to drop the main. Flash harasses the fifth base. Flash moves up to the center base and is pushed back. Flash is still on four bases. More ravens being added on for Flash, bringing him from 2 to 5.
20:00 Flash 200 (300/250) vs Dark 198 (4000/1600) Flash has lots of tanks and tries to take the center. Dark crashes into Flash's army with banelings, ultralisks, and corrupters but gets relatively crushed. Flash snipes the 6th base and backs off. Flash taking his fifth base. +3 mech attack starting for Flash. More ultralisks and banelings for Dark. Dark loses three swarm hosts to bio. Corrupters try to kill ravens but fail to do so.
22:00 Flash 178 vs Dark 198 Dark has 3000/2300 bank. Flash kills the top right base of Dark. Dark goes after the fifth and third bases of Flash with ultralisks, banelings, and zerglings. Flash doesn't really have much of an answer to this.
23:00 Flash 146 vs Dark 198 Flash holds, but only barely, losing 22 workers. More banelings for Dark. Dark getting burrow. Ultralisks and banelings find undefended tanks at Flash's fourth but Flash barely holds the position with air. Dark adding ultralisks. Changelings prevent the fifth of Flash from re-landing.
24:00 Flash 171 vs Dark 199 (3000/3000) Dark attacks Flash's third base with utrlaisks and bane/ling again but doesn't kill a lot. Dark taking Flash's backdoor base. Second spire being added. Fungals land on most of Flash's banshees and they mostly die. Corrupters are almost entirely killed by vikings, but Dark is adding 20 mutalisks.
26:00 Flash 183 vs Dark 200 (1600/1600) Flash has about 12 +3 vikings against +2 mutalisks. Dark has 7 bases against Flash's 5. A drop is found and killed by mutalisks. Flash adds a turret to his fourth. Mutalisks kill both turrets and a third building in Flash's natural. Another turret from Flash is cancelled in the main. Mutalisks get on top of production in Flash's main. Ultralisks go after the backdoor of Flash. +1 air armor starts for Dark. Banelings moving towards Flash's natural. Vikings catch up with the mutalisks. BAnelings trying to find something to kill. Mutalisks kill stuff in Flash's fifth base. Flash has 0 minerals.
29:00 Flash 171 vs Dark 200 Banshees trying to clean up in Flash's main. More banelings being morphed for Dark 2 ultralisks, 40 lings, 20 banelings in production. Flash trying to regroup with his tanks, marines, and marauders but loses a lot doing so, mainly tank. Banelings crash into Flash's unsplit army. Marauders flee in terror. Flash is down to 19 workers. Flash has some vikings and banshees. The fourth of Flash falls. 11 infestors for Dark.
31:00 Flash 73 vs Dark 193 Flash gets everything fungalled. Flash GG's! Dark takes the first map for SKT! The score is now 1-2.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
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Your vote: Recommend Flash vs Dark?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
I feel like Flash has a lil bit better composition toward the end, but hes too distracted with mutas killing tanks and got rolled over by banelings. Such pity, Flash doesnt play as bad as his previous TvZ
So flash went super fast 3cc, 2ebay, while dark went pool first, fast lings, fast roaches that did nothing, wasted 80 banelings in the first big battle and then he won? lol
On January 05 2015 22:19 juvenal wrote: So flash went super fast 3cc, 2ebay, while dark went pool first, fast lings, fast roaches that did nothing, wasted 80 banelings in the first big battle and then he won? lol
On January 05 2015 22:19 juvenal wrote: So flash went super fast 3cc, 2ebay, while dark went pool first, fast lings, fast roaches that did nothing, wasted 80 banelings in the first big battle and then he won? lol
This is what happens when you let Zerg drone with absolutely no punishment after failing that hard.
lol I picked Dark last season FPL for 1 point. He was AWESOME for 1 point then. I obviously picked Dark again this season for FPL, he was what? 4-5 points? He IS AWESOME for such low points now lol. Dark going to be MVP this season Go Inno and then Dark for ace match!!
On January 05 2015 22:19 juvenal wrote: So flash went super fast 3cc, 2ebay, while dark went pool first, fast lings, fast roaches that did nothing, wasted 80 banelings in the first big battle and then he won? lol
On January 05 2015 22:19 juvenal wrote: So flash went super fast 3cc, 2ebay, while dark went pool first, fast lings, fast roaches that did nothing, wasted 80 banelings in the first big battle and then he won? lol
You simplify things so much, there is no point in arguing about it.
On January 05 2015 22:19 juvenal wrote: So flash went super fast 3cc, 2ebay, while dark went pool first, fast lings, fast roaches that did nothing, wasted 80 banelings in the first big battle and then he won? lol
On January 05 2015 22:19 juvenal wrote: So flash went super fast 3cc, 2ebay, while dark went pool first, fast lings, fast roaches that did nothing, wasted 80 banelings in the first big battle and then he won? lol
Flash lost a shitton of Bio because he forgot how to micro. AND the super fast 3CC didn't really help, because Flash didn't feel like doing anything until the Zerg was maxed out.
On January 05 2015 22:19 juvenal wrote: So flash went super fast 3cc, 2ebay, while dark went pool first, fast lings, fast roaches that did nothing, wasted 80 banelings in the first big battle and then he won? lol
Too bad you forgot the part where Dark gets 90-95 drones i.e. more than 4k income per minute
On January 05 2015 22:19 juvenal wrote: So flash went super fast 3cc, 2ebay, while dark went pool first, fast lings, fast roaches that did nothing, wasted 80 banelings in the first big battle and then he won? lol
This is what happens when you let Zerg drone with absolutely no punishment after failing that hard.
yeah, unless you did insane amounts of damage to Zergs, no matter how "ahead" you are in a non-micro orientated early game (meaning no harassment, no rushes etc), if you leave the zerg to drone, THEY WILL RUN OVER YOU, same for protoss, but toss do it in a much longer time compared to Zerg
On January 05 2015 22:19 juvenal wrote: So flash went super fast 3cc, 2ebay, while dark went pool first, fast lings, fast roaches that did nothing, wasted 80 banelings in the first big battle and then he won? lol
This is what happens when you let Zerg drone with absolutely no punishment after failing that hard.
yeah, unless you did insane amounts of damage to Zergs, no matter how "ahead" you are in a non-micro orientated early game (meaning no harassment, no rushes etc), if you leave the zerg to drone, THEY WILL RUN OVER YOU, same for protoss, but toss do it in a much longer time compared to Zerg
or maybe, this is what happens when you play a weird "I'm gonna build all of the units in the Terran arsenal and see what happens"-build.
On January 05 2015 22:26 BlackCompany wrote: This korean shows are so wierd. I cant tell if they are trying to sell something, trying to make a reality show or even if its a porn movie beginning.
On January 05 2015 22:26 BlackCompany wrote: This korean shows are so wierd. I cant tell if they are trying to sell something, trying to make a reality show or even if its a porn movie beginning.
Everything is the beginning of a porn if you keep filming for long enough.
On January 05 2015 22:19 juvenal wrote: So flash went super fast 3cc, 2ebay, while dark went pool first, fast lings, fast roaches that did nothing, wasted 80 banelings in the first big battle and then he won? lol
This is what happens when you let Zerg drone with absolutely no punishment after failing that hard.
yeah, unless you did insane amounts of damage to Zergs, no matter how "ahead" you are in a non-micro orientated early game (meaning no harassment, no rushes etc), if you leave the zerg to drone, THEY WILL RUN OVER YOU, same for protoss, but toss do it in a much longer time compared to Zerg
or maybe, this is what happens when you play a weird "I'm gonna build all of the units in the Terran arsenal and see what happens"-build.
yeah, agreed, besides, only protoss can get away with building any unit they plz
On January 05 2015 22:26 BlackCompany wrote: This korean shows are so wierd. I cant tell if they are trying to sell something, trying to make a reality show or even if its a porn movie beginning.
Could be all three.
True. Maybe they start with a reality show, then try to sell something to you and when you really buy something you get a nice movie as a thank you.
On January 05 2015 22:26 BlackCompany wrote: This korean shows are so wierd. I cant tell if they are trying to sell something, trying to make a reality show or even if its a porn movie beginning.
Everything is the beginning of a porn if you keep filming for long enough.
Amazing insights can sometimes be found in TL LR thread.
On January 05 2015 22:19 juvenal wrote: So flash went super fast 3cc, 2ebay, while dark went pool first, fast lings, fast roaches that did nothing, wasted 80 banelings in the first big battle and then he won? lol
This is what happens when you let Zerg drone with absolutely no punishment after failing that hard.
yeah, unless you did insane amounts of damage to Zergs, no matter how "ahead" you are in a non-micro orientated early game (meaning no harassment, no rushes etc), if you leave the zerg to drone, THEY WILL RUN OVER YOU, same for protoss, but toss do it in a much longer time compared to Zerg
or maybe, this is what happens when you play a weird "I'm gonna build all of the units in the Terran arsenal and see what happens"-build.
yeah, agreed, besides, only protoss can get away with building any unit they plz
Zerg can do it too eventually (and Dark more or less did last game). The Terran production is just very commited in that regard, and they have more different units to begin with.
On January 05 2015 22:32 Pandemona wrote: Would like Innovation to win here just to see which player each team sends out for the ace match.
Probably Inno for SKT. KT Zergs arent here becasue it aint playoffs, KT Toss are.. questionable vs Terran and well Flash isnt in his best form + he would have just beaten TY to get to the ace
On January 05 2015 22:32 Pandemona wrote: Would like Innovation to win here just to see which player each team sends out for the ace match.
Probably Inno for SKT. KT Zergs arent here becasue it aint playoffs, KT Toss are.. questionable vs Terran and well Flash isnt in his best form + he would have just beaten TY to get to the ace
Inno vs Stats would be my guess. Unless they prepared a snipe build with action or something.
On January 05 2015 22:32 Pandemona wrote: Would like Innovation to win here just to see which player each team sends out for the ace match.
Probably Inno for SKT. KT Zergs arent here becasue it aint playoffs, KT Toss are.. questionable vs Terran and well Flash isnt in his best form + he would have just beaten TY to get to the ace
On January 05 2015 22:32 Pandemona wrote: Would like Innovation to win here just to see which player each team sends out for the ace match.
Probably Inno for SKT. KT Zergs arent here becasue it aint playoffs, KT Toss are.. questionable vs Terran and well Flash isnt in his best form + he would have just beaten TY to get to the ace
Inno vs Stats would be my guess. Unless they prepared a snipe build with action or something.
Though even Stats wouldnt be good after his game vs MarineKing.. but yeah there is noone else^^
TY spawns in the left INnoVation spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Gas/barracks for both players. Factory for both players.
3:00 Second gas for both players. TY scouting first. Reaper for TY.
4:00 Hellion for INnoVation. Reaper runs past the hellion and through some marine and misses the cloaked banshee of INnoVation. Raven for TY.
5:00 Widow mine on the way for INnoVation. TY moving back into the main base with the reaper, seeing the starport. CC for both players. Raven for INnoVation. TY getting a viking.
TY spawns in the left INnoVation spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Gas/barracks for both players. Factory for both players.
3:00 Second gas for both players. TY scouting first. Reaper for TY.
4:00 Hellion for INnoVation. Reaper runs past the hellion and through some marine and misses the cloaked banshee of INnoVation. Raven for TY.
5:00 Widow mine on the way for INnoVation. TY moving back into the main base with the reaper, seeing the starport. CC for both players. Raven for INnoVation. TY getting a viking.
6:00 INnoVation's banshee gets into the main and kills one worker. Stim starts for TY. INnoVation getting a tank.
7:00 TY 45 vs INnoVation 50 Two more barracks for TY. INnoVation moving out with a widow mine. Another banshee for INnoVation. TY going for a drop with 6 marines and a widow mine.
8:00 TY 51 vs INnoVation 60 Engineering bay for TY. Cloaked banshee from INnoVation de-cloaks and turns around. INnoVation moves out and goes for the widow mine of TY with a raven and some marine/tank but the widow mine kills the raven. INnoVation killing some SCVs with his raven.
10:00 TY 61 vs INnoVation 71 INnoVation's second banshee kills a few SCVs as well. +1 attack for TY. Combat shields for TY. TY going for a 15 marine drop. Both players have secured their naturals.
TY spawns in the left INnoVation spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Gas/barracks for both players. Factory for both players.
3:00 Second gas for both players. TY scouting first. Reaper for TY.
4:00 Hellion for INnoVation. Reaper runs past the hellion and through some marine and misses the cloaked banshee of INnoVation. Raven for TY.
5:00 Widow mine on the way for INnoVation. TY moving back into the main base with the reaper, seeing the starport. CC for both players. Raven for INnoVation. TY getting a viking.
6:00 INnoVation's banshee gets into the main and kills one worker. Stim starts for TY. INnoVation getting a tank.
7:00 TY 45 vs INnoVation 50 Two more barracks for TY. INnoVation moving out with a widow mine. Another banshee for INnoVation. TY going for a drop with 6 marines and a widow mine.
8:00 TY 51 vs INnoVation 60 Engineering bay for TY. Cloaked banshee from INnoVation de-cloaks and turns around. INnoVation moves out and goes for the widow mine of TY with a raven and some marine/tank but the widow mine kills the raven. INnoVation killing some SCVs with his raven.
10:00 TY 61 vs INnoVation 71 INnoVation's second banshee kills a few SCVs as well. +1 attack for TY. Combat shields for TY. TY going for a 15 marine drop. Both players have secured their naturals.
11:00 TY 78 vs INnoVation 83 TY's drop is unsuccessful as it is seen with vikings and tanks are in position. Auto-turret harass kills three of INnoVation's workers. Tank drop for TY. TY using the tank drop and marines to try and get a position in the CW third base of INnoVation. Vikings see this very quickly and the pressure is shut down efficiently.
13:00 TY 92 vs INnoVation 100 TY dropping more marines in INnoVation's main base. Armory for INnoVation. Both players getting +1 infantry armor but TY's nearly finishes when INnoVation's starts. TY charges into the natural of INnoVation while dropping the main, and INnoVation is out of position on both front, losing 14 SCVs and trading poorly. Armory and second engineering bay for TY.
15:00 TY 117 vs INnoVation 104 INnoVation going for a drop which is seen by TY's medivac. Third base for TY. Sensor tower being made for INnoVation. INnoVation getting +2 attack as well as +2 armor. TY gets another drop in INnoVation's main, killing just two SCVs and damaging a depot before it's staved off.
TY spawns in the left INnoVation spawns in the bottom right
2:00 Gas/barracks for both players. Factory for both players.
3:00 Second gas for both players. TY scouting first. Reaper for TY.
4:00 Hellion for INnoVation. Reaper runs past the hellion and through some marine and misses the cloaked banshee of INnoVation. Raven for TY.
5:00 Widow mine on the way for INnoVation. TY moving back into the main base with the reaper, seeing the starport. CC for both players. Raven for INnoVation. TY getting a viking.
6:00 INnoVation's banshee gets into the main and kills one worker. Stim starts for TY. INnoVation getting a tank.
7:00 TY 45 vs INnoVation 50 Two more barracks for TY. INnoVation moving out with a widow mine. Another banshee for INnoVation. TY going for a drop with 6 marines and a widow mine.
8:00 TY 51 vs INnoVation 60 Engineering bay for TY. Cloaked banshee from INnoVation de-cloaks and turns around. INnoVation moves out and goes for the widow mine of TY with a raven and some marine/tank but the widow mine kills the raven. INnoVation killing some SCVs with his raven.
10:00 TY 61 vs INnoVation 71 INnoVation's second banshee kills a few SCVs as well. +1 attack for TY. Combat shields for TY. TY going for a 15 marine drop. Both players have secured their naturals.
11:00 TY 78 vs INnoVation 83 TY's drop is unsuccessful as it is seen with vikings and tanks are in position. Auto-turret harass kills three of INnoVation's workers. Tank drop for TY. TY using the tank drop and marines to try and get a position in the CW third base of INnoVation. Vikings see this very quickly and the pressure is shut down efficiently.
13:00 TY 92 vs INnoVation 100 TY dropping more marines in INnoVation's main base. Armory for INnoVation. Both players getting +1 infantry armor but TY's nearly finishes when INnoVation's starts. TY charges into the natural of INnoVation while dropping the main, and INnoVation is out of position on both front, losing 14 SCVs and trading poorly. Armory and second engineering bay for TY.
15:00 TY 117 vs INnoVation 104 INnoVation going for a drop which is seen by TY's medivac. Third base for TY. Sensor tower being made for INnoVation. INnoVation getting +2 attack as well as +2 armor. TY gets another drop in INnoVation's main, killing just two SCVs and damaging a depot before it's staved off.
16:00 TY 126 vs INnoVation 128 INnoVation landing a CC at the third base of INnoVation. A widow mines sees a train of marines moving out for TY. TY tries a drop in INnoVation's main but a viking prevents it from doing damage. +2/2 starts for TY. +2 armor for INnoVation.
18:00 TY 145 vs INnoVation 153 +1 vehicle weapons for TY TY still looking around with marines. INnoVation nearly kills a retreating medivac. TY fails to drop the natural since there is defense. INnoVation sieges the main base of TY with an elevator of tanks while running a few marines into the third. TY attacks the third base with marines but a tank and some marines prevent heavy damage. The rest of INnoVation's units are dropped into the main of TY. Mining is still denied at the third base of TY. INnoVation trades marines with TY near the center until TY picks up and tries dropping on the tanks.
20:00 TY 93 vs INnoVation 182 INnoVation continues to do damage in the main. TY GG's! SKT ties it up 2-2!
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Your vote: Recommend TY vs INnoVation?
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On January 05 2015 22:47 Inflicted wrote: This is why I hate playing TvT One mistake and its over
It may seem like "one mistake and it's over", but it's not accurate in the slightest.
Apart from many things going on prior,
1. Ty did not react to Innovation moving towards the main. 2. He was out of position to defend the tank drop (+ was indecisive and lost a bunch of marines & wasted some apm) 3. He didn't realize he was getting dropped at 3rd at the same time, lost all the scvs. 4. He lost his army at Innovation's 3rd, didn't kill many scv's, nor his 3rd.
It wasn't one mistake, he fell aparat after making a couple misplays / wrong decisions in quick succession.
How the fuck does Innovation go from behind to absolutely leagues ahead with pure terminator precision and macro in half the games he ever plays? TY got manhandled.
TvT is a test of who is most ballsy. If you've got some real cojones, you go for these crazy drops and came out ahead.
The preview for this match was quite right "I expect banshee play and attempted doom drops from both sides, and when the dust clears I expect INnoVation to have won."
On January 05 2015 22:49 Pontius Pirate wrote: I can't believe he got away with that drop into the main. That seemed like a risk Innovation just doesn't take.
Tbh I don't think it's that risky. Siege up the tanks on the low ground and they'll cover for main drops.
On January 05 2015 22:49 Pontius Pirate wrote: I can't believe he got away with that drop into the main. That seemed like a risk Innovation just doesn't take.
Innovation vs Soulkey finals. Only difference is that it worked this time.
Dark has a very good ZvT but a relatively lacking ZvP, playing dark against a team of T's and P's seems like a coinflip when innovation would be favoured against any of the KT lineup.
Yeah it was either going to be Zest or Stats, guessing KT put more faith in Zest vs T/Z as they knew it was going to be Inno/Dark from SKT. SKT on the other hand also knew it was going to be a protoss for sure and have fielded Dark too which is interesting.
On January 05 2015 22:52 Jazzman88 wrote: Ugh, Zest versus Dark? Time to go take a morning shower and make coffee, they might be at an interesting point when I return.
You mean Zest is going to all in and the game will be over in 10ish minutes?
On January 05 2015 22:52 Jazzman88 wrote: Ugh, Zest versus Dark? Time to go take a morning shower and make coffee, they might be at an interesting point when I return.
You mean Zest is going to all in and the game will be over in 10ish minutes?
The Emperor does not share your optimistic appraisal of the situation.
On January 05 2015 22:52 Jazzman88 wrote: Ugh, Zest versus Dark? Time to go take a morning shower and make coffee, they might be at an interesting point when I return.
You mean Zest is going to all in and the game will be over in 10ish minutes?
On January 05 2015 22:52 Jazzman88 wrote: Ugh, Zest versus Dark? Time to go take a morning shower and make coffee, they might be at an interesting point when I return.
You mean Zest is going to all in and the game will be over in 10ish minutes?
The Emperor does not share your optimistic appraisal of the situation.
On January 05 2015 22:53 Goibon wrote: sweet, more of guy sitting on bench doing things to himself
That could've been phrased better.
...This stupid reality TV ad is actually becoming worse. During the first match, it would go to max volume right as it started, regardless of where my volume slider was. Now, it does it a few seconds BEFORE the ad actually starts.
On January 05 2015 22:51 raga4ka wrote: I have both Zest and Dark on my FPL , this should be good .
me either (zest as my captain), and KT as my team, i need a zest win :D
I have already given up on FPL but i got Zest as captain and KT as team aswell..
tough start indeed, but i have faith on the long term to not finish at the bottom but more at the average :D
Time will tell my main problem is that i got guys like Taeja, Bravo and Shine on my main team which barely play at all. And i am to lazy to bother with trading and that stuff
On January 05 2015 22:52 Jazzman88 wrote: Ugh, Zest versus Dark? Time to go take a morning shower and make coffee, they might be at an interesting point when I return.
You mean Zest is going to all in and the game will be over in 10ish minutes?
The Emperor does not share your optimistic appraisal of the situation.
On January 05 2015 22:52 Keeemy wrote: If Dark wins this, he will officially be a top TOP player.
He is top player already, but he is kind of like what Byul was last season, he crushes in PL but has trouble getting far in individual leagues.
But Dark is doing quite well in individual leagues. He's qualified for both, and he decimated Parting 3-0. Dark is actually exactly what SKT needed to be a top-tier team again after losing so many of its players. I expect Dark to go very far in both leagues.
I have Dark on my FPL team, but Zest has to win, PLSPLSPLS
So sad for TY, his style of being superior in multitasking/micro just doesn't work against the top players who are on a similar lvl there. But games like these still convince me that medivacs are bs :D
On January 05 2015 22:57 The_Red_Viper wrote: I have Dark on my FPL team, but Zest has to win, PLSPLSPLS
So sad for TY, his style of being superior in multitasking/micro just doesn't work against the top players who are on a similar lvl there. But games like these still convince me that medivacs are bs :D
On January 05 2015 22:57 BlackCompany wrote: I wonder if Dark deserves a slight arrow up if he wins this ace match. Should really ask PL staff what they think about this
IMO they should change it to slight arrow down if he wins the ace, and Zest should be way down. Make Flash slight up too while they're at it.
On January 05 2015 22:57 BlackCompany wrote: I wonder if Dark deserves a slight arrow up if he wins this ace match. Should really ask PL staff what they think about this
IMO they should change it to slight arrow down if he wins the ace, and Zest should be way down. Make Flash slight up too while they're at it.
That sounds reasonable. As long as Terror keeps him arrow down i am fine. He is showing no progress at all!
On January 05 2015 22:57 The_Red_Viper wrote: I have Dark on my FPL team, but Zest has to win, PLSPLSPLS
So sad for TY, his style of being superior in multitasking/micro just doesn't work against the top players who are on a similar lvl there. But games like these still convince me that medivacs are bs :D
On January 05 2015 22:52 Keeemy wrote: If Dark wins this, he will officially be a top TOP player.
He is top player already, but he is kind of like what Byul was last season, he crushes in PL but has trouble getting far in individual leagues.
But Dark is doing quite well in individual leagues. He's qualified for both, and he decimated Parting 3-0. Dark is actually exactly what SKT needed to be a top-tier team again after losing so many of its players. I expect Dark to go very far in both leagues.
As much as i don't want to admit this, but Dark is, day by day, more and more closer to replacing Rain as the ALL-TIME BEST ACE of SKT, he's still a bit far of though, Cuz Rain was Epic in 2012-13 PL and 2014 PL
On January 05 2015 22:57 BlackCompany wrote: I wonder if Dark deserves a slight arrow up if he wins this ace match. Should really ask PL staff what they think about this
IMO they should change it to slight arrow down if he wins the ace, and Zest should be way down. Make Flash slight up too while they're at it.
That sounds reasonable. As long as Terror keeps him arrow down i am fine. He is showing no progress at all!
Yeah, no way TerrOr can do anything. I mean, could he even beat one of CJ's best players, ByuL?
On January 05 2015 22:57 The_Red_Viper wrote: I have Dark on my FPL team, but Zest has to win, PLSPLSPLS
So sad for TY, his style of being superior in multitasking/micro just doesn't work against the top players who are on a similar lvl there. But games like these still convince me that medivacs are bs :D
Catallena is
You can look at it from both perspectives i think
Rule of thumb: if either 2-rax Reaper or Blink cheese is bullshit on a map, Medivacs are equally bullshit.
On January 05 2015 22:57 BlackCompany wrote: I wonder if Dark deserves a slight arrow up if he wins this ace match. Should really ask PL staff what they think about this
IMO they should change it to slight arrow down if he wins the ace, and Zest should be way down. Make Flash slight up too while they're at it.
That sounds reasonable. As long as Terror keeps him arrow down i am fine. He is showing no progress at all!
Yeah, no way TerrOr can do anything. I mean, could he even beat one of CJ's best players, ByuL?
On January 05 2015 22:57 BlackCompany wrote: I wonder if Dark deserves a slight arrow up if he wins this ace match. Should really ask PL staff what they think about this
IMO they should change it to slight arrow down if he wins the ace, and Zest should be way down. Make Flash slight up too while they're at it.
That sounds reasonable. As long as Terror keeps him arrow down i am fine. He is showing no progress at all!
Yeah, no way TerrOr can do anything. I mean, could he even beat one of CJ's best players, ByuL?
I dont think that could ever happen. He needs to defeat someone on his level first, someone from the bottom. People like Solar, Flash and Curious come to mind. Thats his skill-level!
On January 05 2015 22:52 Keeemy wrote: If Dark wins this, he will officially be a top TOP player.
He is top player already, but he is kind of like what Byul was last season, he crushes in PL but has trouble getting far in individual leagues.
But Dark is doing quite well in individual leagues. He's qualified for both, and he decimated Parting 3-0. Dark is actually exactly what SKT needed to be a top-tier team again after losing so many of its players. I expect Dark to go very far in both leagues.
Doing quite well, and getting far are two different things. He qualified for IEM, just to lose 2-0 to San, and then 2-1 to herO and be out immediately from the final Asia qualifiers. That is just one example, there are more of examples like these. My point is that so far he didn't get far in individual leagues as Soulkey, SoO or Life did.
I didn't say that he isn't a good player, he is amazing and I love his style and I really hope that he improves in individual leagues, I am just stating what was happening so far.
On January 05 2015 22:57 BlackCompany wrote: I wonder if Dark deserves a slight arrow up if he wins this ace match. Should really ask PL staff what they think about this
IMO they should change it to slight arrow down if he wins the ace, and Zest should be way down. Make Flash slight up too while they're at it.
That sounds reasonable. As long as Terror keeps him arrow down i am fine. He is showing no progress at all!
Yeah, no way TerrOr can do anything. I mean, could he even beat one of CJ's best players, ByuL?
I dont think that could ever happen. He needs to defeat someone on his level first, someone from the bottom. People like Solar, Flash and Curious come to mind. Thats his skill-level!
On January 05 2015 22:57 BlackCompany wrote: I wonder if Dark deserves a slight arrow up if he wins this ace match. Should really ask PL staff what they think about this
IMO they should change it to slight arrow down if he wins the ace, and Zest should be way down. Make Flash slight up too while they're at it.
That sounds reasonable. As long as Terror keeps him arrow down i am fine. He is showing no progress at all!
Yeah, no way TerrOr can do anything. I mean, could he even beat one of CJ's best players, ByuL?
I dont think that could ever happen. He needs to defeat someone on his level first, someone from the bottom. People like Solar, Flash and Curious come to mind. Thats his skill-level!
Yeah. Flash had potential as a dark horse but I don't ever see him doing well. Although I'm not sure if he can beat TerrOr or not.
On January 05 2015 22:57 BlackCompany wrote: I wonder if Dark deserves a slight arrow up if he wins this ace match. Should really ask PL staff what they think about this
IMO they should change it to slight arrow down if he wins the ace, and Zest should be way down. Make Flash slight up too while they're at it.
That sounds reasonable. As long as Terror keeps him arrow down i am fine. He is showing no progress at all!
Yeah, no way TerrOr can do anything. I mean, could he even beat one of CJ's best players, ByuL?
I dont think that could ever happen. He needs to defeat someone on his level first, someone from the bottom. People like Solar, Flash and Curious come to mind. Thats his skill-level!
Yeah. Flash had potential as a dark horse but I don't ever see him doing well. Although I'm not sure if he can beat TerrOr or not.
On January 05 2015 22:57 BlackCompany wrote: I wonder if Dark deserves a slight arrow up if he wins this ace match. Should really ask PL staff what they think about this
IMO they should change it to slight arrow down if he wins the ace, and Zest should be way down. Make Flash slight up too while they're at it.
That sounds reasonable. As long as Terror keeps him arrow down i am fine. He is showing no progress at all!
Yeah, no way TerrOr can do anything. I mean, could he even beat one of CJ's best players, ByuL?
I dont think that could ever happen. He needs to defeat someone on his level first, someone from the bottom. People like Solar, Flash and Curious come to mind. Thats his skill-level!
Yeah. Flash had potential as a dark horse but I don't ever see him doing well. Although I'm not sure if he can beat TerrOr or not.
The trend seems to indicate not.
Well, even if they both win their matches next week, TerrOr has 100% more wins than Flash.
On January 05 2015 22:57 BlackCompany wrote: I wonder if Dark deserves a slight arrow up if he wins this ace match. Should really ask PL staff what they think about this
IMO they should change it to slight arrow down if he wins the ace, and Zest should be way down. Make Flash slight up too while they're at it.
That sounds reasonable. As long as Terror keeps him arrow down i am fine. He is showing no progress at all!
Yeah, no way TerrOr can do anything. I mean, could he even beat one of CJ's best players, ByuL?
I dont think that could ever happen. He needs to defeat someone on his level first, someone from the bottom. People like Solar, Flash and Curious come to mind. Thats his skill-level!
Yeah. Flash had potential as a dark horse but I don't ever see him doing well. Although I'm not sure if he can beat TerrOr or not.
The trend seems to indicate not.
What, we dont know the trend yet. Gotta wait for next week to see the arrows!
On January 05 2015 22:57 BlackCompany wrote: I wonder if Dark deserves a slight arrow up if he wins this ace match. Should really ask PL staff what they think about this
IMO they should change it to slight arrow down if he wins the ace, and Zest should be way down. Make Flash slight up too while they're at it.
That sounds reasonable. As long as Terror keeps him arrow down i am fine. He is showing no progress at all!
Yeah, no way TerrOr can do anything. I mean, could he even beat one of CJ's best players, ByuL?
I dont think that could ever happen. He needs to defeat someone on his level first, someone from the bottom. People like Solar, Flash and Curious come to mind. Thats his skill-level!
Yeah. Flash had potential as a dark horse but I don't ever see him doing well. Although I'm not sure if he can beat TerrOr or not.
The trend seems to indicate not.
What, we dont know the trend yet. Gotta wait for next week to see the arrows!
Week 5! Really hoping for Flash vs TerrOr there xD
Zest spawns in the bottom left Dark spawns in the top right
2:00 Hatchery/gas/pool for Dark. Zest going nexus first followed by a gateway and two assimilators.
3:00 Cybernetics core for Zest. Zest getting a zealot. Zergling speed for Dark.
4:00 Mothership core for Zest. Dark taking a third base.
5:00 Zergling gets into Zest's main and scouts. Robotics facility and a second/third gateway at Zest's front. Dark making drones.
7:00 Zest 52 vs Dark 54 Dark getting 6 more drones. Warp prism being chronoboosted for Zest. Dark getting a roach warren, lair, and evolution chamber. Two more gateways for Zest. Zest going for a sentry drop. Dark starting to saturate his third. Three more gateways and an immortal for Zest.
8:00 Zest 66 vs Dark 77 Zest's sentry drop is rather unsuccessful. Roach speed and +1 attack for Dark. Two spine crawlers for Zest. Roaches being made. Zest reinforcing with a warp prism. Roaches are FF'd out but escape. A spine crawler is killed immediately. Dark gets more roaches trapped. Second spine falls instantly.
10:00 Zest 86 vs Dark 100 Drones are caught in the crossfire. Zest crushes through the roach army and kills 20 drones. Dark gets another queen and roach trapped. Dark trying to kite sentries. Zest dancing his immortals. Dark GG's! KT wins 3-2!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
32%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (6)
24%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
4%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
4%
25 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
"So Zest you choose to press the forcefield button a few times there, explain your thinking?" "So you choose to warp in more sentries here, why not stalkers"
SKT in a slump they won't be able to recover i feel. Dark will probably lose in both GSL and SSL in his next match, Innovation doesn't seem to have the confidence in playing important matches, soO probably afraid to get second again. The future for SKT (and its players) doesn't look bright at all :/
On January 05 2015 23:14 Pandemona wrote: Lol who do you analyze that game
"So Zest you choose to press the forcefield button a few times there, explain your thinking?" "So you choose to warp in more sentries here, why not stalkers"
lolol
I feel like there's a table condiment appropriate for the situation here.
On January 05 2015 23:14 royalroadweed wrote: Even when they're slumping and trailing prime, KT still manages to best SKT. Maybe KT really is the best KT.
Yeeee. Zest maybe saving my FPL season. Last week was awful when I traded Bbyong for him. It was looking good but he lost the ace and bbyong went off on life ;/
I'am SKT fan and Dark personal fan. But i don't understand oOv decision to send him as ACE player today. Zest is KT ace for sure, because Flash is on tilt and weak against terrans. Zest was 100% ace today. So why oOv send Dark, who lose yesterday to San and herO. He isn't zvp player and SKT zergs month over month loosing to KT protoss players. Why not to send Inno today?
On January 05 2015 23:14 Pandemona wrote: Lol who do you analyze that game
"So Zest you choose to press the forcefield button a few times there, explain your thinking?" "So you choose to warp in more sentries here, why not stalkers"
lolol
I feel like there's a table condiment appropriate for the situation here.
No i just mean you can't really analyze that game, he just build order won. I don't mind how anyone wins in a BO1 it is just a bit of fun. BO3 different but BO1 is just what you get.
Just they do this analyzing part and this game seems wasted, would be better if they asked him about some of his decisions against Billowy in the PvP
On January 05 2015 23:14 The_Red_Viper wrote: SKT in a slump they won't be able to recover i feel. Dark will probably lose in both GSL and SSL in his next match, Innovation doesn't seem to have the confidence in playing important matches, soO probably afraid to get second again. The future for SKT (and its players) doesn't look bright at all :/
On January 05 2015 23:14 The_Red_Viper wrote: SKT in a slump they won't be able to recover i feel. Dark will probably lose in both GSL and SSL in his next match, Innovation doesn't seem to have the confidence in playing important matches, soO probably afraid to get second again. The future for SKT (and its players) doesn't look bright at all :/
On January 05 2015 23:14 Pandemona wrote: Lol who do you analyze that game
"So Zest you choose to press the forcefield button a few times there, explain your thinking?" "So you choose to warp in more sentries here, why not stalkers"
lolol
I feel like there's a table condiment appropriate for the situation here.
No i just mean you can't really analyze that game, he just build order won. I don't mind how anyone wins in a BO1 it is just a bit of fun. BO3 different but BO1 is just what you get.
Just they do this analyzing part and this game seems wasted, would be better if they asked him about some of his decisions against Billowy in the PvP
Ah, I see. Makes sense. Happens in hockey all the time:
"So, you shot pucks at the net and an improbable 40% of them went in tonight, how do you feel about your play?" "I mean, we won by 4 goals, so, we all came together and believed in the team and gave 110%, just put pucks on net and good things happened."
On January 05 2015 23:14 The_Red_Viper wrote: SKT in a slump they won't be able to recover i feel. Dark will probably lose in both GSL and SSL in his next match, Innovation doesn't seem to have the confidence in playing important matches, soO probably afraid to get second again. The future for SKT (and its players) doesn't look bright at all :/
On January 05 2015 23:14 The_Red_Viper wrote: SKT in a slump they won't be able to recover i feel. Dark will probably lose in both GSL and SSL in his next match, Innovation doesn't seem to have the confidence in playing important matches, soO probably afraid to get second again. The future for SKT (and its players) doesn't look bright at all :/
On January 05 2015 23:14 Pandemona wrote: Lol who do you analyze that game
"So Zest you choose to press the forcefield button a few times there, explain your thinking?" "So you choose to warp in more sentries here, why not stalkers"
lolol
I feel like there's a table condiment appropriate for the situation here.
No i just mean you can't really analyze that game, he just build order won. I don't mind how anyone wins in a BO1 it is just a bit of fun. BO3 different but BO1 is just what you get.
Just they do this analyzing part and this game seems wasted, would be better if they asked him about some of his decisions against Billowy in the PvP
It doesn't matter if it is Bo1 or Bo7 when you are playing against Protoss. There are more cheeses and all-ins than there are games and for some of them even if you know and prepare for them, depending on the map, they still kill you.
On January 05 2015 23:14 The_Red_Viper wrote: SKT in a slump they won't be able to recover i feel. Dark will probably lose in both GSL and SSL in his next match, Innovation doesn't seem to have the confidence in playing important matches, soO probably afraid to get second again. The future for SKT (and its players) doesn't look bright at all :/
On January 05 2015 23:14 The_Red_Viper wrote: SKT in a slump they won't be able to recover i feel. Dark will probably lose in both GSL and SSL in his next match, Innovation doesn't seem to have the confidence in playing important matches, soO probably afraid to get second again. The future for SKT (and its players) doesn't look bright at all :/
On January 05 2015 23:14 The_Red_Viper wrote: SKT in a slump they won't be able to recover i feel. Dark will probably lose in both GSL and SSL in his next match, Innovation doesn't seem to have the confidence in playing important matches, soO probably afraid to get second again. The future for SKT (and its players) doesn't look bright at all :/
After seeing these two games of Zest, I feel like he will be the best player in the world again. His play was absolutely perfect. There was nothing wrong with it at all. He's played sort of well in the past, considering that time was pure Protoss dominance. Now he is playing out of his mind. I think he can win a few more championships this year assuming he doesn't get cheesed out in the qualifiers like he did for S2SL and GSL.
Just have to armchair coach that when the opposing team's obvious ace is weak at PvT and you have damn Innovation in your team, I don't get how you send Dark...
On January 05 2015 23:25 The_Templar wrote: If anyone is interested in posting one or both of tomorrow's PL threads, please PM me.
No one wants to maintain one of tomorrow's threads? I promise it's not too hard.
On January 06 2015 00:32 Nebuchad wrote: Just have to armchair coach that when the opposing team's obvious ace is weak at PvT and you have damn Innovation in your team, I don't get how you send Dark...
It's possible they might have anticipated that KT thought that INnoVation would be sent and might send Flash instead.
On January 06 2015 00:32 Nebuchad wrote: Just have to armchair coach that when the opposing team's obvious ace is weak at PvT and you have damn Innovation in your team, I don't get how you send Dark...
It's possible they might have anticipated that KT thought that INnoVation would be sent and might send Flash instead.
On January 06 2015 00:22 swag_bro wrote: After seeing these two games of Zest, I feel like he will be the best player in the world again. His play was absolutely perfect. There was nothing wrong with it at all. He's played sort of well in the past, considering that time was pure Protoss dominance. Now he is playing out of his mind. I think he can win a few more championships this year assuming he doesn't get cheesed out in the qualifiers like he did for S2SL and GSL.
On January 06 2015 00:22 swag_bro wrote: After seeing these two games of Zest, I feel like he will be the best player in the world again. His play was absolutely perfect. There was nothing wrong with it at all. He's played sort of well in the past, considering that time was pure Protoss dominance. Now he is playing out of his mind. I think he can win a few more championships this year assuming he doesn't get cheesed out in the qualifiers like he did for S2SL and GSL.
On January 06 2015 00:32 Nebuchad wrote: Just have to armchair coach that when the opposing team's obvious ace is weak at PvT and you have damn Innovation in your team, I don't get how you send Dark...
Yeah.... I'm a huge KT fan but thought we lost when it went to ace. I thought, there's is no one on KT currently that can beat Innovation and yet... Dark?
On January 06 2015 00:32 Nebuchad wrote: Just have to armchair coach that when the opposing team's obvious ace is weak at PvT and you have damn Innovation in your team, I don't get how you send Dark...
Yeah.... I'm a huge KT fan but thought we lost when it went to ace. I thought, there's is no one on KT currently that can beat Innovation and yet... Dark?
I do know by looking at Youtube it went to an Ace match though
Showstealer's Song Choice SPL: KT v SKT
Game 1: A close run thing but Stats gets the nod KT 1-0 Game 2: Billowy: There's nothing wrong with Zest's choice, it's good, it's safe. It's just boring. I can dig Billowy's choice though, can never go wrong with a bit of Zimmer. 1-1 Game 3: Flash: The classic Electric Romeo beat is just too good. Plus I wouldn't pick Radioactive drunk and on a dare KT 2-1 Game 4: I can't say I think much of either choice but Bogus wins here. It has that All American Rejects vibe which I can at least get into. 2-2
On January 06 2015 00:32 Nebuchad wrote: Just have to armchair coach that when the opposing team's obvious ace is weak at PvT and you have damn Innovation in your team, I don't get how you send Dark...
Yeah.... I'm a huge KT fan but thought we lost when it went to ace. I thought, there's is no one on KT currently that can beat Innovation and yet... Dark?
On January 06 2015 00:32 Nebuchad wrote: Just have to armchair coach that when the opposing team's obvious ace is weak at PvT and you have damn Innovation in your team, I don't get how you send Dark...
Yeah.... I'm a huge KT fan but thought we lost when it went to ace. I thought, there's is no one on KT currently that can beat Innovation and yet... Dark?
Classical SKT decision making^^
really confused about the ace choice...
Somewhat made sense if they thought KT would go for the semi-surprise and send Flash instead of Zest
On January 06 2015 00:32 Nebuchad wrote: Just have to armchair coach that when the opposing team's obvious ace is weak at PvT and you have damn Innovation in your team, I don't get how you send Dark...
Yeah.... I'm a huge KT fan but thought we lost when it went to ace. I thought, there's is no one on KT currently that can beat Innovation and yet... Dark?
Classical SKT decision making^^
really confused about the ace choice...
Somewhat made sense if they thought KT would go for the semi-surprise and send Flash instead of Zest
INno still would have been better imo. His TvT is looking quite solid and Flash isnt really in form
On January 06 2015 00:32 Nebuchad wrote: Just have to armchair coach that when the opposing team's obvious ace is weak at PvT and you have damn Innovation in your team, I don't get how you send Dark...
Yeah.... I'm a huge KT fan but thought we lost when it went to ace. I thought, there's is no one on KT currently that can beat Innovation and yet... Dark?
Classical SKT decision making^^
really confused about the ace choice...
Somewhat made sense if they thought KT would go for the semi-surprise and send Flash instead of Zest
INno still would have been better imo. His TvT is looking quite solid and Flash isnt really in form
On January 06 2015 05:46 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Fuck I'm so pissed I saw the first game and saw Billowy throw, missed Dark destroy flash all while KT still wins anyways. 'm so fuckin angry
On January 06 2015 00:32 Nebuchad wrote: Just have to armchair coach that when the opposing team's obvious ace is weak at PvT and you have damn Innovation in your team, I don't get how you send Dark...
Yeah.... I'm a huge KT fan but thought we lost when it went to ace. I thought, there's is no one on KT currently that can beat Innovation and yet... Dark?
Classical SKT decision making^^
really confused about the ace choice...
Somewhat made sense if they thought KT would go for the semi-surprise and send Flash instead of Zest
I guess but it didn't seem that likely to me that KT would send Flash
Dark would be put on a pedestal and coach oov would be praised if SKT won the ace match. It takes time and experience to become a consistent ace player. Try and be more supportive SKT fans.
On January 06 2015 05:46 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Fuck I'm so pissed I saw the first game and saw Billowy throw, missed Dark destroy flash all while KT still wins anyways. 'm so fuckin angry
On January 06 2015 07:13 BisuDagger wrote: Dark would be put on a pedestal and coach oov would be praised if SKT won the ace match. It takes time and experience to become a consistent ace player. Try and be more supportive SKT fans.
On January 06 2015 05:46 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Fuck I'm so pissed I saw the first game and saw Billowy throw, missed Dark destroy flash all while KT still wins anyways. 'm so fuckin angry
On January 06 2015 07:13 BisuDagger wrote: Dark would be put on a pedestal and coach oov would be praised if SKT won the ace match. It takes time and experience to become a consistent ace player. Try and be more supportive SKT fans.
it's not about SKT losing, it's about KT winning
Playing dark here let's all the other teams in the league know SKT is willing to send out other players besides Innovation for the ace match. It makes it much harder to prepare for a team that has multiple races for ace. It's a very strong strategy. The cost of losing to KT is not great at this time. It doesn't cost a playoff spot and is significantly less damaging then a 3-0.
Having gone heavy KT (and with Dark as my #1 point-machine) on my FPL team, I increased my standing by about 600 ranks from todays games. Thanks, KT! We're doing good together. Or less worse, but still.
On January 06 2015 00:32 Nebuchad wrote: Just have to armchair coach that when the opposing team's obvious ace is weak at PvT and you have damn Innovation in your team, I don't get how you send Dark...
Yeah.... I'm a huge KT fan but thought we lost when it went to ace. I thought, there's is no one on KT currently that can beat Innovation and yet... Dark?
Classical SKT decision making^^
really confused about the ace choice...
Somewhat made sense if they thought KT would go for the semi-surprise and send Flash instead of Zest
INno still would have been better imo. His TvT is looking quite solid and Flash isnt really in form
Well he isn't in form in TvZ, that's pretty much all we know i think I think Flash TvT still would be quite strong
On January 06 2015 00:32 Nebuchad wrote: Just have to armchair coach that when the opposing team's obvious ace is weak at PvT and you have damn Innovation in your team, I don't get how you send Dark...
Yeah.... I'm a huge KT fan but thought we lost when it went to ace. I thought, there's is no one on KT currently that can beat Innovation and yet... Dark?
Classical SKT decision making^^
really confused about the ace choice...
Somewhat made sense if they thought KT would go for the semi-surprise and send Flash instead of Zest
INno still would have been better imo. His TvT is looking quite solid and Flash isnt really in form
Well he isn't in form in TvZ, that's pretty much all we know i think I think Flash TvT still would be quite strong
Him also sucking in qualifiers support the idea that it's not only TvZ.
On January 06 2015 05:46 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Fuck I'm so pissed I saw the first game and saw Billowy throw, missed Dark destroy flash all while KT still wins anyways. 'm so fuckin angry
On January 06 2015 07:13 BisuDagger wrote: Dark would be put on a pedestal and coach oov would be praised if SKT won the ace match. It takes time and experience to become a consistent ace player. Try and be more supportive SKT fans.
it's not about SKT losing, it's about KT winning
Playing dark here let's all the other teams in the league know SKT is willing to send out other players besides Innovation for the ace match. It makes it much harder to prepare for a team that has multiple races for ace. It's a very strong strategy. The cost of losing to KT is not great at this time. It doesn't cost a playoff spot and is significantly less damaging then a 3-0.
Do that against a team that is weak against zerg not their strongest matchup...
On January 06 2015 07:13 BisuDagger wrote: Dark would be put on a pedestal and coach oov would be praised if SKT won the ace match. It takes time and experience to become a consistent ace player. Try and be more supportive SKT fans.
it's not about SKT losing, it's about KT winning
Playing dark here let's all the other teams in the league know SKT is willing to send out other players besides Innovation for the ace match. It makes it much harder to prepare for a team that has multiple races for ace. It's a very strong strategy. The cost of losing to KT is not great at this time. It doesn't cost a playoff spot and is significantly less damaging then a 3-0.
Do that against a team that is weak against zerg not their strongest matchup...
As an SKT fan, I'm pissed off that SKT lost. However, since SKT looks really good right now, I'm excited for what's to come in the future. KT fans can bask in the glory for this win only. I'll allow it
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