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On November 21 2014 19:14 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 19:14 graNite wrote:On November 21 2014 19:12 deacon.frost wrote:On November 21 2014 19:11 Brutaxilos wrote:
Holy fuck those drops were so elegant. On this map you cannot defend this style effectively on 3 bases. The main and natural are so open :/ Edit - double forge charge/blink isn't helping much either with templar tech you could, i think Against drops/mines? No, it's worse
lol it's far better if you can go 1 fast forge and decently time ht, feedback is awesome.
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On November 21 2014 19:14 Gwavajuice wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 19:08 REyeM wrote:On November 21 2014 19:07 Gwavajuice wrote:SkyHiigh and now Bbyong : CJ found a nice way to TvP on this map  ?? yeasterday casters were saying the didn't understand why SkyHigh choosed KSS against Classic for game 2 - cause it was supposed to be a great PvT map... then he played the exact same game than Bbyong today, constant drops with plenty of mines that eventually kills the Protoss economy enough to get an easy final fight and claim victory.
Yeah, yeah, but I meant that Bbyong has been really good for quite some time now, hense the bold part.
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On November 21 2014 19:15 Ctesias wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 19:14 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On November 21 2014 19:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 Lorning wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm trying really hard not to whine here PartinG got outplayed hard Olli c'mon He did in the end, but Bbyong should not have won this game after how hard Parting dominated him in the early game. He deflected three drops perfectly without taking basically any damage, killed a ton of SCVs and marines, and then what? Bbyong gets a single drop off and he's even/ahead It may not be unfair or anything, but it's frustrating as hell to watch (and play against) All it takes is one drop/one good mine hit. =/ Now, now, he had plenty more than one good drop/mine hit.
He was defending EXTREMELY well, and then one good drop and it all unravels, that's why it's so frustrating.
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On November 21 2014 19:14 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 19:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 Lorning wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm trying really hard not to whine here PartinG got outplayed hard Olli c'mon He did in the end, but Bbyong should not have won this game after how hard Parting dominated him in the early game. He deflected three drops perfectly without taking basically any damage, killed a ton of SCVs and marines, and then what? Bbyong gets a single drop off and he's even/ahead It may not be unfair or anything, but it's frustrating as hell to watch (and play against) This, so much this  Sigh
haha or Parting plays at a code B lvl and remember how the beginning really went ? 2 useless phenix and 1oracle that quickly died going into mid game?
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On November 21 2014 19:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 19:10 Lorning wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm trying really hard not to whine here PartinG got outplayed hard Olli c'mon He did in the end, but Bbyong should not have won this game after how hard Parting dominated him in the early game. He deflected three drops perfectly without taking basically any damage, killed a ton of SCVs and marines, and then what? Bbyong gets a single drop off and he's even/ahead It may not be unfair or anything, but it's frustrating as hell to watch (and play against)
Remember when Flash killed like 30+ drones vs soO then didn't micro well during the first engagement and ended up loosing?
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On November 21 2014 19:14 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 19:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 Lorning wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm trying really hard not to whine here PartinG got outplayed hard Olli c'mon He did in the end, but Bbyong should not have won this game after how hard Parting dominated him in the early game. He deflected three drops perfectly without taking basically any damage, killed a ton of SCVs and marines, and then what? Bbyong gets a single drop off and he's even/ahead It may not be unfair or anything, but it's frustrating as hell to watch (and play against) Yeah, when you build your dual forge at 12'20 you sure didn't slow at all your development...
Yeah, how dare he rush colossus out to be safe against continued aggression
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On November 21 2014 19:15 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 19:14 Heartland wrote:On November 21 2014 19:14 graNite wrote:On November 21 2014 19:12 deacon.frost wrote:On November 21 2014 19:11 Brutaxilos wrote:
Holy fuck those drops were so elegant. On this map you cannot defend this style effectively on 3 bases. The main and natural are so open :/ Edit - double forge charge/blink isn't helping much either with templar tech you could, i think Against drops/mines? No, it's worse lol it's far better if you can go 1 fast forge and decently time ht, feedback is awesome.
That's only good if you can kill the medivac. Against this sort of style it won't do a lot.
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On November 21 2014 19:16 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 19:14 deacon.frost wrote:On November 21 2014 19:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 Lorning wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm trying really hard not to whine here PartinG got outplayed hard Olli c'mon He did in the end, but Bbyong should not have won this game after how hard Parting dominated him in the early game. He deflected three drops perfectly without taking basically any damage, killed a ton of SCVs and marines, and then what? Bbyong gets a single drop off and he's even/ahead It may not be unfair or anything, but it's frustrating as hell to watch (and play against) This, so much this Sigh haha or Parting plays at a code B lvl and remember how the beginning really went ? 2 useless phenix and 1oracle that quickly died going into mid game?
Those were anything but useless
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But yeah, Parting didn't play that well and Bbyong is great.
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PartinG chose the friggin map too. Not like he was forced into it lmao...
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On November 21 2014 19:16 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 19:15 Ctesias wrote:On November 21 2014 19:14 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On November 21 2014 19:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 Lorning wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm trying really hard not to whine here PartinG got outplayed hard Olli c'mon He did in the end, but Bbyong should not have won this game after how hard Parting dominated him in the early game. He deflected three drops perfectly without taking basically any damage, killed a ton of SCVs and marines, and then what? Bbyong gets a single drop off and he's even/ahead It may not be unfair or anything, but it's frustrating as hell to watch (and play against) All it takes is one drop/one good mine hit. =/ Now, now, he had plenty more than one good drop/mine hit. He was defending EXTREMELY well, and then one good drop and it all unravels, that's why it's so frustrating.
That can happen to everyone rofl
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On November 21 2014 19:16 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 19:14 deacon.frost wrote:On November 21 2014 19:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 Lorning wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm trying really hard not to whine here PartinG got outplayed hard Olli c'mon He did in the end, but Bbyong should not have won this game after how hard Parting dominated him in the early game. He deflected three drops perfectly without taking basically any damage, killed a ton of SCVs and marines, and then what? Bbyong gets a single drop off and he's even/ahead It may not be unfair or anything, but it's frustrating as hell to watch (and play against) This, so much this Sigh haha or Parting plays at a code B lvl and remember how the beginning really went ? 2 useless phenix and 1oracle that quickly died going into mid game?
That oracle had 16 kills.
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Honestly it was PartinG's fault for not going for a 2-base timing. His army would've been too good in the mid-game.
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On November 21 2014 19:17 GTPGlitch wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 19:16 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On November 21 2014 19:15 Ctesias wrote:On November 21 2014 19:14 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On November 21 2014 19:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 Lorning wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm trying really hard not to whine here PartinG got outplayed hard Olli c'mon He did in the end, but Bbyong should not have won this game after how hard Parting dominated him in the early game. He deflected three drops perfectly without taking basically any damage, killed a ton of SCVs and marines, and then what? Bbyong gets a single drop off and he's even/ahead It may not be unfair or anything, but it's frustrating as hell to watch (and play against) All it takes is one drop/one good mine hit. =/ Now, now, he had plenty more than one good drop/mine hit. He was defending EXTREMELY well, and then one good drop and it all unravels, that's why it's so frustrating. That can happen to everyone rofl
I wonder why...
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On November 21 2014 19:16 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 19:14 deacon.frost wrote:On November 21 2014 19:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 Lorning wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm trying really hard not to whine here PartinG got outplayed hard Olli c'mon He did in the end, but Bbyong should not have won this game after how hard Parting dominated him in the early game. He deflected three drops perfectly without taking basically any damage, killed a ton of SCVs and marines, and then what? Bbyong gets a single drop off and he's even/ahead It may not be unfair or anything, but it's frustrating as hell to watch (and play against) This, so much this Sigh haha or Parting plays at a code B lvl and remember how the beginning really went ? 2 useless phenix and 1oracle that quickly died going into mid game?
Did you watch the game?
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This is why you all in terran.
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On November 21 2014 19:15 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 19:14 Heartland wrote:On November 21 2014 19:14 graNite wrote:On November 21 2014 19:12 deacon.frost wrote:On November 21 2014 19:11 Brutaxilos wrote:
Holy fuck those drops were so elegant. On this map you cannot defend this style effectively on 3 bases. The main and natural are so open :/ Edit - double forge charge/blink isn't helping much either with templar tech you could, i think Against drops/mines? No, it's worse lol it's far better if you can go 1 fast forge and decently time ht, feedback is awesome.
Not against WM/marauder style and drops. Then HT/Charge is worse. In constant action like this you have medevacs with almost no energy, so there's nothing to feedback and stalkers are pretty bad against ferrarivacs. It is not impossible, but you need better map than KSS or Leenock map, both these maps are designed to drop 3 base protoss into loss.
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On November 21 2014 19:18 Extenz wrote:
This is why you all in terran.
Yep because all terrans do 4 pronged attacks.
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On November 21 2014 19:18 Extenz wrote:
This is why you all in terran.
Yeah because most Terrans can do what Bbyong did.
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On November 21 2014 19:17 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 19:16 sAsImre wrote:On November 21 2014 19:14 deacon.frost wrote:On November 21 2014 19:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 Lorning wrote:On November 21 2014 19:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm trying really hard not to whine here PartinG got outplayed hard Olli c'mon He did in the end, but Bbyong should not have won this game after how hard Parting dominated him in the early game. He deflected three drops perfectly without taking basically any damage, killed a ton of SCVs and marines, and then what? Bbyong gets a single drop off and he's even/ahead It may not be unfair or anything, but it's frustrating as hell to watch (and play against) This, so much this Sigh haha or Parting plays at a code B lvl and remember how the beginning really went ? 2 useless phenix and 1oracle that quickly died going into mid game? Those were anything but useless
the oracle did his job, the phenix died way too quickly. It was a freaking proxy stargate not a light investment.
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