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bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 08 2014 03:43 GMT
#7921
On November 08 2014 12:41 Cheren wrote:
Also I play Heroes and (mostly) enjoy it but have no interest in watching, dunno how common that is but I can't be the only one.

It's like the anti-SC2 for me.

The game just seems so dumbed down compared to LOL or especially dota that idk why anyone would prefer it over either of those. It isn't even like there is that much of a smaller learning curve. Plus those are SO much more established that HoTS has really no chance.
QO Feasting
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
November 08 2014 03:43 GMT
#7922
This downtime is insane. WE WANT LAN! WE WANT LAN! WE WANT LAN!
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 08 2014 03:43 GMT
#7923
On November 08 2014 12:42 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 12:39 Rollora wrote:
On November 08 2014 12:33 stuchiu wrote:
On November 08 2014 12:33 [PkF] Wire wrote:
TvT is not necessarily amazing, but Mech vs Bio rarely disappoints in the hands of extremely good players.


There is no inherent greatness in a matchup, its always up to the players.

thats simply not true, because the mechanics of TvT and how the matchup works with positioning and so on are way more entertaining and komplex then 99% of the ZvZs where it is mass vs mass or in PvP...
The constant back and forth, harassement, taking out bases, unit mix and so on.

It is good to see terran back, it always was the most entertaining race to watch (and I say that as a random player)


That was more true of WoL TvT than HotS TvT. Now in HotS tvT, its dominated too much by mass medivac doom drops.

You still get great matches like inno vs Taeja, but not as often as I think it was in WoL.


We saw a lot more TvT in WOL, so we caught a LOT more builds.
kiss kiss fall in love
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 08 2014 03:43 GMT
#7924
wtf Sean that's bronze level strat, so ezpz.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
November 08 2014 03:43 GMT
#7925
On November 08 2014 12:40 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 12:38 plogamer wrote:
What's with those pauses and that smirk while pausing from Innovation? I know Inno fans will give me shit for it, but don't tourneys have rules about pauses?


Tourneys also have rules about Blizzard not putting LAN into their games in 20-fucking-14, but what are you gonna do?


I don't think tourneys do have that as a rule
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
November 08 2014 03:43 GMT
#7926
On November 08 2014 12:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 12:39 Rollora wrote:
On November 08 2014 12:33 stuchiu wrote:
On November 08 2014 12:33 [PkF] Wire wrote:
TvT is not necessarily amazing, but Mech vs Bio rarely disappoints in the hands of extremely good players.


There is no inherent greatness in a matchup, its always up to the players.

thats simply not true, because the mechanics of TvT and how the matchup works with positioning and so on are way more entertaining and komplex then 99% of the ZvZs where it is mass vs mass or in PvP...
The constant back and forth, harassement, taking out bases, unit mix and so on.

It is good to see terran back, it always was the most entertaining race to watch (and I say that as a random player)


TvT has the potential to be great more so than the other mirrors, but it also has the potential to be really shitty.

True that. The very fast 1 or 2 base allins are mostly shitty.
But these allins also happen to other races so... I was more refering to the "normal macro game" where way more obvious action and multitasking is happening in TvT
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 08 2014 03:43 GMT
#7927
On November 08 2014 12:42 IntoTheheart wrote:
INNOVATION IS THE NEW MVP.

I AM NOW AN INNOVATION FAN.

Mvp would never lose a GSL final up 3-0. Please do not disgrace his legacy.
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
November 08 2014 03:43 GMT
#7928
On November 08 2014 12:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 12:40 Cheren wrote:
On November 08 2014 12:39 Clonester wrote:
On November 08 2014 12:38 Musicus wrote:
Why is Heroes not taking off? 10k viewers is kinda meh? Not enough players in the alpha?


There are enough Dota Clones.


yeah, IMO Overwatch will be more popular than HotS, less competition in class-based shooters.

I feel like that game will be compared to TF2 like no tomorrow though.

Unless it's like Planetside/Battlefield and went in a completely different direction.


Yeah but TF2 peaked before streaming on Twitch was a thing, Overwatch has the potential to get popular through streamers like Hearthstone did.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 08 2014 03:44 GMT
#7929
Husky just won a game at blizzcon. He's going full artosis
Neosteel Enthusiast
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 08 2014 03:44 GMT
#7930
On November 08 2014 12:44 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Husky just won a game at blizzcon. He's going full artosis

Husky plays Hearthstone?
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 08 2014 03:44 GMT
#7931
On November 08 2014 12:43 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 12:42 IntoTheheart wrote:
INNOVATION IS THE NEW MVP.

I AM NOW AN INNOVATION FAN.

Mvp would never lose a GSL final up 3-0. Please do not disgrace his legacy.


Pfft. Not Mvp's fault that Innovation didn't think to 2rax.
kiss kiss fall in love
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 08 2014 03:44 GMT
#7932
On November 08 2014 12:44 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 12:44 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Husky just won a game at blizzcon. He's going full artosis

Husky plays Hearthstone?

Heroes of the storm in team Low Expectations xD
Neosteel Enthusiast
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
November 08 2014 03:44 GMT
#7933
On November 08 2014 12:43 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 12:41 Cheren wrote:
Also I play Heroes and (mostly) enjoy it but have no interest in watching, dunno how common that is but I can't be the only one.

It's like the anti-SC2 for me.

The game just seems so dumbed down compared to LOL or especially dota that idk why anyone would prefer it over either of those. It isn't even like there is that much of a smaller learning curve. Plus those are SO much more established that HoTS has really no chance.


Cause MOBAs are insanely game knowledge based, Dota players have a 10 year edge, LoL players have a 5 year edge, with HotS I get to be a pioneer sort of even if the game isn't as good.
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
November 08 2014 03:44 GMT
#7934
On November 08 2014 12:42 juleharen wrote:
Why are they talking so much? Where are the games?

Lan problems
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 08 2014 03:44 GMT
#7935
I wanna see Parting on stream. I heard he was there too!
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
juleharen
Profile Joined November 2014
Norway298 Posts
November 08 2014 03:44 GMT
#7936
Innovazn?
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
November 08 2014 03:44 GMT
#7937
On November 08 2014 12:41 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 12:40 Cheren wrote:
On November 08 2014 12:39 Clonester wrote:
On November 08 2014 12:38 Musicus wrote:
Why is Heroes not taking off? 10k viewers is kinda meh? Not enough players in the alpha?


There are enough Dota Clones.


yeah, IMO Overwatch will be more popular than HotS, less competition in class-based shooters.

What else is there outside of TF2?



Battlefield 4.
Esl tried to make it Esport, but failed miserably.

Sc2 = Only RTS out there
Heartstone = Only easy accesable card game out there
HotS = Dota, Dota 2, LoL, HoN and tons of failed Clones?
Overwatch = TF2 and else?

So Blizzard rule: It is not enough to copy good ideas and make em better and more easy to access for casuals, you must also have less enemys on the market to create blizzard hype.

Next Blizzard game confirmed a Wale hunting simulation.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
icydergosu
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
528 Posts
November 08 2014 03:45 GMT
#7938
On November 08 2014 12:43 geokilla wrote:
This downtime is insane. WE WANT LAN! WE WANT LAN! WE WANT LAN!


Why isn't the crowd chanting it...
I am the Punishment of God. If you had not commited great sins, god would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
November 08 2014 03:45 GMT
#7939
On November 08 2014 12:44 KtJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 12:42 juleharen wrote:
Why are they talking so much? Where are the games?

Lan problems

What is LAN?
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 08 2014 03:45 GMT
#7940
I missed Day[9], he needs to do more sc2 content again.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
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